CheckEmoji Community · the emoji forum
🏠 Home 🆕 What's new ❓ Unanswered 🔥 Popular 📡 RSS Members 👥 0 online log in · register
Home › Sports › Soccer › Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Started by Morgan Williams · · 👁 1.4K views · 18K replies

📡 Subscribe to replies

Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#11321 ·
Even for an exceptional teacher, isn't there always room for improvement? $3.25 It’s a bit much, really. Even if you consider that an extra $3,000 is actually quite reasonable for a job well done, people still find ways to complain. But then again, since most people are content with mediocrity, I suppose it’s only natural they’ll push back against being paid based on the actual quality of their work. That’s what I find most frustrating about them, and honestly, it goes for just about everyone else working in the public sector.

In every single government agency, whether you're looking at the CIA or any local IRS branch, everyone knows exactly who actually pulls their weight and who's just coasting.
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
348 messages
joined Sep 2003
#11322 ·
loneseal said:I grew up back in rural Pennsylvania, in an area where we had a decent amount of neighbors from different backgrounds. Some of our closest family friends were folks I thought we’d be tight with forever, but once things started getting ugly and the tension ramped up, those exact same people treated us like we were nothing more than dirt under their boots. Now you want me to sit here and play nice? To preach about brotherhood and unity after all that? Yeah, right. Not happening. ☕

Gojko, the real issue here is that you haven't learned a single thing from what happened to you. Your problems with neighbors or old family friends definitely weren't because they were Mexican—it's because they were brainwashed idiots. If you had been from somewhere like a small town in Kentucky or maybe even a place like Seher, you'd probably be the one posting in defense of Muslims right now.

On top of that, as someone who moved from Appalachia to Washington, D.C., I’m sure you’ve dealt with all sorts of nasty labels from those stuck-up "city slickers." If nowhere else, at least here on an anonymous forum, people find it way too easy to throw around insults like that.

The biggest failure of the modern Right today is exactly this—they're obsessed with this hollow, petty nationalism that’s become an end in itself, instead of actually focusing on real conservative values like family, upbringing, and tradition.
bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
469 messages
joined Jul 2012
#11323 ·
William Gomez5 said:
I don't know who this shosho person is, but honestly? Probably just another loudmouth looking for attention. Typical. kaže:
The biggest scam of all is pretending that the new Star Wars stuff isn't actually worse than the originals. Let’s be real: Star Wars has always been total garbage. Now, we're just watching the same recycled trash being served up to us a hundred times over.

Look, this guy seriously needs to dig himself out of this hole and just sign the damn thing already. 👍

Look, it’s not exactly a walk in the park, alright? Writing a prep that actually hits the mark—something high-quality and genuinely engaging—is a massive grind. It's way harder than people give it credit for, which brings me to my next point.

Don’t even get me started on how many people in every single office building around here are basically just coasting through their shifts without doing a lick of actual work. It’s honestly pathetic. You’ve got this huge group of people who are just dead weight, and then you have a tiny handful who actually grind and deserve a massive raise for pulling the weight. But most of them? They're just mid. Just average. It’s the same story whether you're at a tech firm in Seattle or a warehouse in Chicago—most people are just checking boxes until the clock runs out.

The real issue here is that the Education Department basically gets everyone who scraped by with decent grades in high school. It’s totally predictable, honestly. I mean, let’s be real—the straight-A kids aren't exactly lining up to major in Teaching or Journalism. They’re all aiming for the big leagues like MIT, Johns Hopkins, or heading straight into med school.

Look, anyone could probably write a better breakdown than me on why it’s such a massive issue when 99% of the people in teacher training programs are women—and why you immediately hear that condescending "Who's your teacher?" crap the second a guy walks into a classroom. But honestly? I don't even want to get dragged into that mess. Not worth the headache. 😬

It’s mostly an 8 to 4 grind.

Vacations, a solid month off, seminars, workshops, holidays... you know, all that stuff.

People love to say teacher hours run from 8 to 4, but honestly? That’s a total joke. It's way more like 7 to 7 if you're being real about it.
It all depends on what you’ve got lined up for the next day, too. You might end up losing the whole night to it.

Look, I won’t even get started on how much of a mental drain working with kids is. It’s exhausting. But honestly? Dealing with the parents is ten times worse. If you ask me, they should be getting extra holidays and more paid time off just for having to deal with these idiots. You’ve got thirty kids in a classroom, right? Well, you’ve also got sixty parents out there—and I swear to God, you might find five sane people in that entire group. That's it. Five. 🙏

Look, I’m probably not gonna be objective here. I’ve got a bit of an insider's perspective on this whole thing, so I'm always gonna take the teachers' side—especially when it comes to the elementary school crowd. 😬


Oh, sure. Like that's ever happened.😳
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
459 messages
joined Oct 2012
#11324 ·
Is it messed up if someone wants to see a future where national identities are wiped out, leaving only race, language, and culture behind? Not through force, obviously.
ambertinker41 ambertinker41 Regular
273 messages
joined Jun 2012
#11325 ·
brightpilot6 said:What on earth possessed you all to fall for that musical garbage that just rolled into New York City?🤣

That kind of music isn't really my cup of tea, though one has to admit the woman is certainly a household name.

Shoutout to ambertinker41 for that utterly futile attempt at a turnaround.

You popped into my head when I saw that Turturro has a new mini-series called Rose Name. Is it actually worth watching, or should I just skip it?
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#11326 ·
brightpilot6 said:Even for an exceptional teacher, isn't there always room for improvement? $3.25 It’s a bit much, really. Even if you consider that an extra $3,000 is actually quite reasonable for a job well done, people still find ways to complain. But then again, since most people are content with mediocrity, I suppose it’s only natural they’ll push back against being paid based on the actual quality of their work. That’s what I find most frustrating about them, and honestly, it goes for just about everyone else working in the public sector.

In every single government agency, whether you're looking at the CIA or any local IRS branch, everyone knows exactly who actually pulls their weight and who's just coasting.

Any discussion regarding government jobs and public employees gets complicated pretty quickly. I suppose I agree with your points about salaries, but I don't think that's the whole story. There are two sides to this coin, and we can't overlook how difficult working with children actually is. On the other hand, people in the education system often seem to be some of the biggest roadblocks to national reform, sometimes holding rather unrealistic views of their roles. I attended one of the top schools in the country and went on to one of the best universities in the US. After thinking about it, I honestly can't recall a single professor who felt truly engaging or progressive—someone who stepped outside the standard mold of just handing out exams and grades. There seems to be a fair amount of ego, frustration, and a general lack of motivation to change old ways of doing things. The entire concept of education is probably ready for a complete overhaul of its methods. One reason our economy struggles might be that the workforce at every level is simply lacking. It feels like the educational system itself produces that workforce. Has anyone really stopped to ask why the system churns out such unproductive workers and incapable managers? I don't remember the exact statistics, but American students rank near the bottom of the list when it comes to motivation for independent projects or entrepreneurship. Everyone just talks about teacher pay, and while maybe they do need higher salaries, the system also needs to start giving more back to society.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
407 messages
joined Jun 2021
#11327 ·
Walter Grant5 said:Is it messed up if someone wants to see a future where national identities are wiped out, leaving only race, language, and culture behind? Not through force, obviously.

Absolutely not.

Nationalism is nothing more than a last refuge for scoundrels. ☕
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#11328 ·
Larry Fox5 said:Gojko, the real issue here is that you haven't learned a single thing from what happened to you. Your problems with neighbors or old family friends definitely weren't because they were Mexican—it's because they were brainwashed idiots. If you had been from somewhere like a small town in Kentucky or maybe even a place like Seher, you'd probably be the one posting in defense of Muslims right now.

On top of that, as someone who moved from Appalachia to Washington, D.C., I’m sure you’ve dealt with all sorts of nasty labels from those stuck-up "city slickers." If nowhere else, at least here on an anonymous forum, people find it way too easy to throw around insults like that.

The biggest failure of the modern Right today is exactly this—they're obsessed with this hollow, petty nationalism that’s become an end in itself, instead of actually focusing on real conservative values like family, upbringing, and tradition.

Look, once you get burned, you stop playing with fire. It's not that I have a problem with anyone personally, but you can't just ignore certain experiences.

And regarding that second point? There is a massive difference between someone actually threatening your home with a gun in their hand versus some clown on the internet slapping a label on you just because you’re from a different part of the country.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#11329 ·
brightpilot6 said:I had a feeling this state-sponsored moral police force would eventually make an appearance, 🤣

And honestly, I’m not sure what they think they’ve just revealed that I haven't already pointed out.

It’s a strange coalition, isn't it? You have former hardliners clinging to their old influence, religious traditionalists, and various fringe radicals all joining forces. Instead of building a modern nation or fostering a society with actual potential, they’ve essentially constructed a private playground for themselves. They find a common thread in a single national myth—one that unfortunately exploits the genuine suffering of everyday people—and wrap it in a set of values that no one is permitted to question. Anyone who dares to doubt this mythology or these rigid standards is immediately branded as an outsider, whether they're labeled as a socialist, a globalist, or just someone who doesn't fit the mold. It’s basically "One-Party Rule 2.0." So, here we are, and now I am just waiting for ☕

loneseal said:Everyone is responsible for this mess, except for the sacred cows and the perpetually victimized groups. Don't you dare criticize them.
😉

Well, it didn't take very long at all for Pavlov's reflex to kick in, did it? 😂

loneseal said:I grew up back in rural Pennsylvania, in an area where we had a decent amount of neighbors from different backgrounds. Some of our closest family friends were folks I thought we’d be tight with forever, but once things started getting ugly and the tension ramped up, those exact same people treated us like we were nothing more than dirt under their boots. Now you want me to sit here and play nice? To preach about brotherhood and unity after all that? Yeah, right. Not happening. ☕

So you see, back during the American days, you actually had friends, only to have your own kind show up on both sides of the line and sweep them all away. Perhaps you should be mourning the loss of that old brotherhood and unity?

loneseal said:Look, once you get burned, you stop playing with fire. It's not that I have a problem with anyone personally, but you can't just ignore certain experiences.

And regarding that second point? There is a massive difference between someone actually threatening your home with a gun in their hand versus some clown on the internet slapping a label on you just because you’re from a different part of the country.

I can’t say I’ve ever actually witnessed someone slapping a label on another person here just because of where they were born—unless you count those certain Mexicans over at the New York Times. Sure, you see people attacking those with deep-seated complexes, supporters of criminals who fight over minor ideological victories, or just petty provocateurs, but targeting someone solely based on their birthplace? Honestly, I can't recall an instance of that happening.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#11330 ·
It honestly surprises me every single time how much more sense people make on a football fan thread than they ever do in any other discussion topic.

I truly admire you all.
Even those here who champion absolutely idiotic theories or ideologies manage to scrape together something halfway intelligent to say once in a while.

I’m being completely serious.

Go check out any political thread and you'll see that even when... and... get involved, the debates here remain infinitely more coherent.

Kudos to everyone.

Speaking of debating, the specific point someone is arguing doesn't actually matter when it comes to the quality of the discussion.
I've actually had some of my most intellectually stimulating conversations with an outspoken neo-Nazi. I'll admit that quite openly.

The whole thing falls apart the moment brainless idiots decide to jump into the fray.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#11331 ·
loneseal said:Look, once you get burned, you stop playing with fire. It's not that I have a problem with anyone personally, but you can't just ignore certain experiences.

And regarding that second point? There is a massive difference between someone actually threatening your home with a gun in their hand versus some clown on the internet slapping a label on you just because you’re from a different part of the country.

We've all lived through stuff like that if we were actually there on the ground, so what's there to say other than it was a crazy time where everyone lost their minds because politics twisted everything into the worst possible shape.
Honestly, you probably could find similar stories happening on every single side of the fence back then.

But my question for you is, how are we supposed to feel about Americans now?
Do you honestly think what's happening right now is okay, or is this just a blatant attempt to destroy our identity, our people, and the entire country?
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 Regular
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#11332 ·
Solid discussion over the last few pages.

brightpilot6, you really had to take some bizarre, convoluted logical detours to equate a single American woman with the entire population of our neighboring country.
In the end, you managed to interpret simple discomfort regarding that controversial concert—where she was riding a five-legged creature—and the sheer, unbridled enthusiasm her numbers sparked among a certain group of Americans who clearly lack any sense of shame, as some kind of regressive feeling of being threatened or fearful. You even framed it as an expression of open, toxic anti-Mexican sentiment, or whatever term you used. Honestly, it has nothing to do with that, and about six of us pointed that out before the debate even had a chance to head in that direction. But sure, whatever.
Discomfort, embarrassment, confusion—that’s all it was. Moving on.

I loved watching Star Wars as a kid; those old robots were so cool to me. But recently, after a ten-year break, I tried watching it again on my own, and man, I was bored out of my mind within thirty minutes. I just shut it off; basically fell asleep.
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#11333 ·
Some of you guys have a totally warped perspective when talking about the Homeland War because you’re—consciously or not—trying to play both sides. Honestly, I think Jessica Gonzalez nailed it on the previous pages; it basically boils down to this: we didn't march into Mexico looking for a fight, nor did Americans in Mexico start uprisings.

Peter Thompson4 said:We've all lived through stuff like that if we were actually there on the ground, so what's there to say other than it was a crazy time where everyone lost their minds because politics twisted everything into the worst possible shape.
Honestly, you probably could find similar stories happening on every single side of the fence back then.

But my question for you is, how are we supposed to feel about Americans now?
Do you honestly think what's happening right now is okay, or is this just a blatant attempt to destroy our identity, our people, and the entire country?

Look, I think we could have—and should have—done better. Unfortunately, we didn't, mostly because of that leftover baggage from the American era (you know, the mindset where if you're a big-shot party member you grab whatever you want, but if you're just a regular guy, you expect the government to hand you stuff instead of actually working for it). I do think things could improve with the younger generations who don't carry that same mentality—assuming we even have them left.
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
287 messages
joined Apr 2013
#11334 ·
Matthew Young35 said:It honestly surprises me every single time how much more sense people make on a football fan thread than they ever do in any other discussion topic.

I truly admire you all.
Even those here who champion absolutely idiotic theories or ideologies manage to scrape together something halfway intelligent to say once in a while.

I’m being completely serious.

Go check out any political thread and you'll see that even when... and... get involved, the debates here remain infinitely more coherent.

Kudos to everyone.

Speaking of debating, the specific point someone is arguing doesn't actually matter when it comes to the quality of the discussion.
I've actually had some of my most intellectually stimulating conversations with an outspoken neo-Nazi. I'll admit that quite openly.

The whole thing falls apart the moment brainless idiots decide to jump into the fray.

Thanks.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#11335 ·
Charles Roberts33 said:Solid discussion over the last few pages.

brightpilot6, you really had to take some bizarre, convoluted logical detours to equate a single American woman with the entire population of our neighboring country.
In the end, you managed to interpret simple discomfort regarding that controversial concert—where she was riding a five-legged creature—and the sheer, unbridled enthusiasm her numbers sparked among a certain group of Americans who clearly lack any sense of shame, as some kind of regressive feeling of being threatened or fearful. You even framed it as an expression of open, toxic anti-Mexican sentiment, or whatever term you used. Honestly, it has nothing to do with that, and about six of us pointed that out before the debate even had a chance to head in that direction. But sure, whatever.
Discomfort, embarrassment, confusion—that’s all it was. Moving on.

I loved watching Star Wars as a kid; those old robots were so cool to me. But recently, after a ten-year break, I tried watching it again on my own, and man, I was bored out of my mind within thirty minutes. I just shut it off; basically fell asleep.

It’s the same old song, just played with different instruments; it resurfaces every time a Mexican fills a stadium here in America, whether it’s Bajaga, Balašević, or now Brena. People always go hunting for some sign that they belong to the old guard. Their only common denominator is being Mexican or tied to Mexico, so one doesn't need to be a genius to see what is actually bothering people.

Charles Roberts33 said:Solid discussion over the last few pages.

brightpilot6, you really had to take some bizarre, convoluted logical detours to equate a single American woman with the entire population of our neighboring country.
In the end, you managed to interpret simple discomfort regarding that controversial concert—where she was riding a five-legged creature—and the sheer, unbridled enthusiasm her numbers sparked among a certain group of Americans who clearly lack any sense of shame, as some kind of regressive feeling of being threatened or fearful. You even framed it as an expression of open, toxic anti-Mexican sentiment, or whatever term you used. Honestly, it has nothing to do with that, and about six of us pointed that out before the debate even had a chance to head in that direction. But sure, whatever.
Discomfort, embarrassment, confusion—that’s all it was. Moving on.

I loved watching Star Wars as a kid; those old robots were so cool to me. But recently, after a ten-year break, I tried watching it again on my own, and man, I was bored out of my mind within thirty minutes. I just shut it off; basically fell asleep.

Fine, perhaps I moved too quickly (since I know you aren't a fool) by linking your post to the ideological platform that the loudest opinion makers in America—the Republican Party, the Church, the far-right parties, and various associations—attempt to present as the mainstream.

I wasn't referring to you specifically, but rather to that platform which has exploded during this campaign, and which remains unacceptable to me even decades after the war ended. This ideology of constantly retreating into the past, obsessing over conflict, labeling the remaining Mexicans in America as "guests," calling for reparations for El Paso, lamenting that more wasn't done during the war, the annual reopening of wounds to ensure they never heal, and the outright falsification of history to construct an eternal struggle between Americans and Mexicans as the foundation of national identity... it is ultimately ruinous for the nation and serves only a small circle of elites.

Why is it ruinous? Not just because hatred and antagonism make for a weak foundation for identity, but because the history of this region teaches us that an identity built solely on combat and war fades the moment the generation that actually fought in those wars passes away.

Take, for example, the second generation of communists—those born after the war. They felt no inherent sense of unity just because their fathers had fought together against fascists or Joseph Stalin. Instead, they retreated into their own regional party organizations, content with whatever influence they could exert within them. For the average person born in the 50s and 60s, this was even more pronounced; they largely viewed the wartime mythmaking of the American era as nothing more than a joke or a caricature.

The same thing can happen here. Just imagine a teenager who, ten or twenty years from now, looks back at these events through the lens of watching a General's footage. He’ll likely laugh at the caricature while having a beer or a joint. Meanwhile, you'll be trying to sell him the idea that the values of the Homeland War are the bedrock of his country. Try talking to twenty-year-olds about accepting that kind of identity. Their priority certainly isn't fearing or hating their neighbors, especially not because of the traumas of a previous generation. And there is almost no other substance left in the public discourse. Every year follows the same pattern: starting in March with talk of Bleiburg and Jasenovac that lasts until June, then moving into preparations for Knin and the Storm, followed by El Paso in November. It’s a cycle. Mexicans, America, communism. That is practically all the media, the opinion makers, and the politicians deal with.

Perhaps many people find a certain satisfaction in this approach, never quite realizing they are merely constructing an empty shell—one that a young man will ultimately find incredibly difficult to truly connect with.
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#11336 ·
brightpilot6 said:In all seriousness, my first instinct is that this coordinated effort to undermine the candidate's reputation is coming straight from the political left.

Everyone is busy throwing stones at one another; some claim the Republican nominee is merely a puppet controlled by the establishment elite, while others paint him as nothing more than a traitorous opportunist who abandoned his roots.

Honestly, the only thing I’m actually looking forward to in this election cycle is seeing one of these three "heavyweights" get knocked out in the primary. Wouldn't it be the ultimate circus if the two most polarized figures ended up facing off in the general? It would be like watching heaven and earth collide. 🙏

The real fight, regardless of what happens here, will be during the next midterm elections.

🤣
Yeah, a fight... and honestly, the Republican Party is basically starting with a massive handicap.😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
775 messages
joined May 2007
#11337 ·
brightpilot6 said:It’s the same old song, just played with different instruments; it resurfaces every time a Mexican fills a stadium here in America, whether it’s Bajaga, Balašević, or now Brena. People always go hunting for some sign that they belong to the old guard. Their only common denominator is being Mexican or tied to Mexico, so one doesn't need to be a genius to see what is actually bothering people.

Fine, perhaps I moved too quickly (since I know you aren't a fool) by linking your post to the ideological platform that the loudest opinion makers in America—the Republican Party, the Church, the far-right parties, and various associations—attempt to present as the mainstream.

I wasn't referring to you specifically, but rather to that platform which has exploded during this campaign, and which remains unacceptable to me even decades after the war ended. This ideology of constantly retreating into the past, obsessing over conflict, labeling the remaining Mexicans in America as "guests," calling for reparations for El Paso, lamenting that more wasn't done during the war, the annual reopening of wounds to ensure they never heal, and the outright falsification of history to construct an eternal struggle between Americans and Mexicans as the foundation of national identity... it is ultimately ruinous for the nation and serves only a small circle of elites.

Why is it ruinous? Not just because hatred and antagonism make for a weak foundation for identity, but because the history of this region teaches us that an identity built solely on combat and war fades the moment the generation that actually fought in those wars passes away.

Take, for example, the second generation of communists—those born after the war. They felt no inherent sense of unity just because their fathers had fought together against fascists or Joseph Stalin. Instead, they retreated into their own regional party organizations, content with whatever influence they could exert within them. For the average person born in the 50s and 60s, this was even more pronounced; they largely viewed the wartime mythmaking of the American era as nothing more than a joke or a caricature.

The same thing can happen here. Just imagine a teenager who, ten or twenty years from now, looks back at these events through the lens of watching a General's footage. He’ll likely laugh at the caricature while having a beer or a joint. Meanwhile, you'll be trying to sell him the idea that the values of the Homeland War are the bedrock of his country. Try talking to twenty-year-olds about accepting that kind of identity. Their priority certainly isn't fearing or hating their neighbors, especially not because of the traumas of a previous generation. And there is almost no other substance left in the public discourse. Every year follows the same pattern: starting in March with talk of Bleiburg and Jasenovac that lasts until June, then moving into preparations for Knin and the Storm, followed by El Paso in November. It’s a cycle. Mexicans, America, communism. That is practically all the media, the opinion makers, and the politicians deal with.

Perhaps many people find a certain satisfaction in this approach, never quite realizing they are merely constructing an empty shell—one that a young man will ultimately find incredibly difficult to truly connect with.

Why push that scenario ten years into the future? You’ve already got "the General" on TV right now, you’ve got teenagers who have zero connection to the war, and you’ve got the beer and the joints. 😁

But that’s the thing—those folks on the right don't seem to get it. Shows like "the General" and these other cheap jokes do way more damage to the "dignity of the Homeland War" than any documentary about war crimes ever could.

By the way, I’m taking back what I said about the Republican Party not having an economic plan. I mean, Kolinda's plan to just hand everyone $8,000 to work online clearly solves every single problem we have. 😎
driftingstag6 driftingstag6 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2019
#11338 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:An HR?
What has she actually achieved? She’s managed to shrink the population through migration more effectively than any war ever did in this country.

She’s absolutely gutted what little we had left—massively looted everything, sold off what remained, dumbed down the entire population, turned our school system into one GIANT ZERO, ruined people's lives, and handed total control over to some bottom-feeding bureaucrats who, for God knows what reason, think they can treat an entire nation like a bunch of toddlers.

👍
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
348 messages
joined Sep 2003
#11339 ·
Matthew Young35 said:It honestly surprises me every single time how much more sense people make on a football fan thread than they ever do in any other discussion topic.

I truly admire you all.
Even those here who champion absolutely idiotic theories or ideologies manage to scrape together something halfway intelligent to say once in a while.

I’m being completely serious.

Go check out any political thread and you'll see that even when... and... get involved, the debates here remain infinitely more coherent.

Kudos to everyone.

Speaking of debating, the specific point someone is arguing doesn't actually matter when it comes to the quality of the discussion.
I've actually had some of my most intellectually stimulating conversations with an outspoken neo-Nazi. I'll admit that quite openly.

The whole thing falls apart the moment brainless idiots decide to jump into the fray.

And there's a damn good reason for it. Most people jumping into politics are just trying to "missionary" their way through with some specific Agenda they're pushing. You don't even need to know what you're talking about—it's classic behavior to just dig your heels in and hunt for whatever tiny scrap of an argument supports your own biased view.

With football, it's just casual—something people talk about on the fly without anyone forcing it on them. People are actually authentic, honest, and you can actually have a decent conversation.
Real quality discussion always comes down to being real and actually respecting the person you're talking to.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#11340 ·
Sandra Johnson58 said:🤣
Yeah, a fight... and honestly, the Republican Party is basically starting with a massive handicap.😁

I never actually claimed that they wouldn't receive anything; I simply made the point about which elections truly carry weight. If it meant securing a significantly better outcome in the next cycle, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party would likely agree to lose these elections in a heartbeat, wouldn't they?

You must log in or register to reply here.

Log in Register

🔗 Similar threads