Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Larry Fox5 said:Humans have dumped over 150 million tons of plastic waste into the world's oceans. Here in America, we pump out about 375 pounds of trash per person every single year.

So now we're suddenly "clean," but a dog is a "filthy animal" just because it marked a tree in the park? Give me a break.

No animal's "messiness" or damage can even begin to compare to what humans do... seriously.

Alright, fair enough. I get where you're coming from—humans can be pretty filthy creatures. Point taken.

Then again, I don't want to see dogs where people eat, I don't want them in restaurants or grocery stores, and frankly, I don't want some random dog lunging at me with muddy paws.

Charles Roberts33 said:Alright, fair enough. I get where you're coming from—humans can be pretty filthy creatures. Point taken.

Then again, I don't want to see dogs where people eat, I don't want them in restaurants or grocery stores, and frankly, I don't want some random dog lunging at me with muddy paws.

I will honestly never wrap my head around this—what kind of logic made this so freaking mainstream?

You’ve got people just strolling through the local mall or an artsy downtown spot, and nobody says a damn word. 🙏

So, a buddy of mine—he works at this IT firm in downtown Chicago, pretty chill setup, good vibes, you know?—well, they let people bring their dogs into the office. One day, this dog starts barking and whining like crazy, and nobody can get anything done. But here's the kicker: you can't even say anything to the owner! Then, to top it all off, turns out the dog had some "stomach issues" and just straight-up crapped right there on the floor. 🙏

Look, maybe that's an extreme case, but seeing this crap in retail stores and restaurants happens every single day.

It’s like these business owners have turned into some kind of weird little cult.

William Gomez5 said:I will honestly never wrap my head around this—what kind of logic made this so freaking mainstream?

You’ve got people just strolling through the local mall or an artsy downtown spot, and nobody says a damn word. 🙏

So, a buddy of mine—he works at this IT firm in downtown Chicago, pretty chill setup, good vibes, you know?—well, they let people bring their dogs into the office. One day, this dog starts barking and whining like crazy, and nobody can get anything done. But here's the kicker: you can't even say anything to the owner! Then, to top it all off, turns out the dog had some "stomach issues" and just straight-up crapped right there on the floor. 🙏

Look, maybe that's an extreme case, but seeing this crap in retail stores and restaurants happens every single day.

It’s like these business owners have turned into some kind of weird little cult.

Pure Law of Economics. Look, if I see a sign saying dogs aren't allowed in a restaurant, I’m not just skipping it myself—even if I don't have a dog with me—I'm telling all my friends and family to stay far away too.

It's the exact same thing with hotels or general retail stores. Only food shops are different.

It’s reached a level of recklessness that is honestly just sickening. I don't understand why it's such a struggle for people to grasp that not everyone wants to be sniffed or touched by a dog. And don't even get me started on those owners using retractable leashes that give their pet ten feet of freedom to wander everywhere... I completely agree that an owner needs to keep their dog right at their side when passing others.

It isn't really about the employees or the owners. I think the real issue is just that this type of ownership model exists at all. I could probably go on and on about it, but I feel like I've already covered everything.

A dog really says everything about its owner. I've seen plenty of cases where a pet just mirrors their owner's true character. Since Americans can be such an unruly bunch, it’s hardly surprising that so many dogs end up as poorly behaved as their owners...
For instance, I don't mind at all when people bring a dog into a restaurant if it actually behaves—if you can tell it was properly trained. But if the dog can't settle down, or if it's whining, barking, and just won't listen to its owner... well, I've been banned from a restaurant once because of that. It's much like certain people who act like rabid chimpanzees in public. That's even more irritating to me...

Honestly, there is no more intense cult than dog lovers. These people are genuinely capable of gouging your eyes out if you don't match their level of obsession! Wouldn't it be easier to critique Islam in Saudi Arabia than to dare criticize a dog enthusiast and the absolute reign of terror they exert over anyone who doesn't own a pet?

Honestly, I haven't seen many animals in restaurants—actually, hardly any at all, especially not in business districts where you'd expect them—but back in the day, I used to say kids should be banned from places like that because, let’s be real, I've had to deal with their chaos way too many times, and you just can't get a moment of peace when people fail to realize that kids don't even want to be stuck in a restaurant or a movie theater anyway.

As for pets, man, I guess everyone thinks they have the right to own one regardless of whether they actually have an ounce of responsibility or are even remotely prepared to look after the animal, though unfortunately, that same logic applies to children too.😁

Justin James10 said:Honestly, there is no more intense cult than dog lovers. These people are genuinely capable of gouging your eyes out if you don't match their level of obsession! Wouldn't it be easier to critique Islam in Saudi Arabia than to dare criticize a dog enthusiast and the absolute reign of terror they exert over anyone who doesn't own a pet?

They have nobody else. A dog becomes a substitute for a real person because no actual human would ever put up with them.

But what about dogs in restaurants or food courts?
Who cares. Let the hair fly. Let the bacteria spread while you eat two feet away.

Joseph Clark37 said:A dog really says everything about its owner. I've seen plenty of cases where a pet just mirrors their owner's true character. Since Americans can be such an unruly bunch, it’s hardly surprising that so many dogs end up as poorly behaved as their owners...
For instance, I don't mind at all when people bring a dog into a restaurant if it actually behaves—if you can tell it was properly trained. But if the dog can't settle down, or if it's whining, barking, and just won't listen to its owner... well, I've been banned from a restaurant once because of that. It's much like certain people who act like rabid chimpanzees in public. That's even more irritating to me...

The dog situation in Los Angeles is a total nightmare. There are so many undisciplined degenerates out there, it's actually scary—people walking dogs without leashes, leaving piles of crap everywhere... and don't even get me started on the breeds. You either see these tiny little things or massive 50-pound beasts. You almost never see a German Shepherd around here; it's a struggle, man.

Larry Fox5 said:Pure Law of Economics. Look, if I see a sign saying dogs aren't allowed in a restaurant, I’m not just skipping it myself—even if I don't have a dog with me—I'm telling all my friends and family to stay far away too.

It's the exact same thing with hotels or general retail stores. Only food shops are different.

Honestly, you'd have to be dealing with some seriously heavy life issues if choosing where to eat or shop depends entirely on whether they're pet-friendly or not.

William Gomez5 said:Honestly, you'd have to be dealing with some seriously heavy life issues if choosing where to eat or shop depends entirely on whether they're pet-friendly or not.

It’s about principle—plain and simple. My dog is family, so if he isn't welcome, then I don't feel welcome either...

I'm eating out almost every day—at least five times a week. That’s roughly 250 times a year, and maybe five of those involve my dog. So we're talking practically never, but even when he is with me, he's so well-behaved and chill that he never bothers anyone.
Sheepdogs are just incredibly smart and sensitive animals; if you train them right, they're absolute gems.

Besides, there are at least a dozen top-tier spots nearby with Michelin chefs where dogs aren't banned at all. When even those high-end places welcome dogs, what is there even to debate? Honestly, it feels pointless to keep talking about this since these restrictive situations are so rare anyway.

As a restaurant owner, I’d kick out anyone feeding their dog from the table in a heartbeat. But then again, I’d toss out the rude customers just as fast—the loud, obnoxious ones who harass the staff or disturb other guests.

I seriously don't get it, why on earth would you bring a dog into a restaurant? Like, what's even the point when you specifically agree to go out to eat and then just drag some mutt along with you.

Peter Thompson4 said:I seriously don't get it, why on earth would you bring a dog into a restaurant? Like, what's even the point when you specifically agree to go out to eat and then just drag some mutt along with you.

Look, I already said this only happens in extremely rare cases. I'm taking him to the vet for shots or a checkup and we're hanging out in town while we're at it. I want to grab lunch—so why on earth would I leave him sitting in the car?

It's totally normal for stuff like this to happen.

Look, if you're saying that, then I totally get where you're coming from, honestly. I had no clue what the deal was or why things were such a mess, and since there wasn't any obvious reason for him to be lugging that thing around with him, I figured I'd just ask.

Justin James10 said:Honestly, there is no more intense cult than dog lovers. These people are genuinely capable of gouging your eyes out if you don't match their level of obsession! Wouldn't it be easier to critique Islam in Saudi Arabia than to dare criticize a dog enthusiast and the absolute reign of terror they exert over anyone who doesn't own a pet?

+1

For some people, dogs actually matter more than human beings. And then they have the nerve to throw those tired clichés at you—claiming everyone should just be as smart and kind as a dog to make the world a better place. Give me a break. 🤣 🤦

To some people, dogs actually carry more weight than human beings 🙂

Goodness 🤦😂

Larry Fox5 said:Look, I already said this only happens in extremely rare cases. I'm taking him to the vet for shots or a checkup and we're hanging out in town while we're at it. I want to grab lunch—so why on earth would I leave him sitting in the car?

It's totally normal for stuff like this to happen.

And why eat at a restaurant? Why not just grab something from a bakery?😁

I agree regarding the dogs; sure, they're animals, but their owners are often even more animalistic than they are. Those types usually get treated with a mix of electricity and water.

I’m 100% with Byron on this one. I recently got myself a dog, and honestly, the last thing I want to do is drag random people into some messy, awkward situation just because of him. The real issue here? It's those selfish owners who think the entire world revolves around them. You know the type—people who try to fix their own deep-seated complexes in these twisted, borderline pathological ways.

Until recently, I was actually pretty grossed out by the idea of ever owning a dog, but life happens and circumstances change, so now he’s basically gotten under my skin. Still, even with him, there have to be limits.

If things start getting weird or sketchy, you just call the cops and call it a day. At the end of the day, human dignity comes first.☕

And as for those restaurants? For Christ's sake, get them out of business. Just kick them out.

Honestly, some people are just way too sensitive when you point out something that’s clearly against the rules... seriously, everyone needs to just take a breath! It feels like they immediately go on the defensive at the slightest hint of criticism.