Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

brightpilot6 said:Fair enough. Mutation. But what if we keep everything wide open and this still largely mysterious virus undergoes a mutation into something even more lethal, especially given how aggressively it spreads, what exactly is the backup plan then?

Right now, the virus is mutating into countless different combinations, which is something that’s probably been happening for millions of years. Bats don't really complain about it much. Evolution does its thing, so maybe just keep doing your job and stay calm.

So, left-footed or right-footed? Honestly, it doesn't matter... he’s just playing exactly how you need to play in that moment. I guess opportunity makes a thief. Just a little hint from Messi's side 😄😝

brightpilot6 said:It’s honestly incredible how much people can ignore what's right in front of them. Everyone acted like they were blindsided, as if they didn't see it coming. When I mentioned that the number of infections was significantly higher than reported, it was met with such disbelief—but really, no shit, Sherlock? We also seem to have developed a collective case of amnesia regarding my previous predictions that the numbers would actually be five, ten, or even a hundred times higher than what we were seeing.

It feels like there isn’t a single WhatsApp group in existence that doesn't contain at least one person who seemingly woke up this morning suddenly convinced that everyone else has lost their minds over some little virus. They walk around with this quiet certainty that if they had been at the helm from the very beginning, they would have handled the whole situation with much more grace and competence than anyone else. 🙏

And so it goes—everything is already settled, and that’s really all there is to say. 🙏

This is also an issue.

The media has loosened up a bit, and some employers basically said enough is enough and got back to business. Milan Bandić ordered everyone at the municipal holdings to get back to work, even if they were just sitting in their offices. Then yesterday, Andrej Plenković mentioned we might start easing restrictions. Honestly, I think people are just fed up with isolation and hearing about the Coronavirus constantly... so I find myself wondering again...

what actually changed compared to twenty days ago?

urbanhawk17 said:If it mutates into something deadlier, then we go into total lockdown.

Like I said before, what we're doing right now is the worst way to handle this.

If something more lethal comes along, are you still pushing for this current approach? Just stay home, but if you absolutely have to go somewhere, then just go.

But when exactly would we know? How much time would pass before we realize it has mutated for the worse? How many people could get infected in that interim, and what would the true cost of such a gamble be? Would you really feel comfortable signing off on that decision in front of the entire nation, especially when it goes against everything the epidemiologists are advising?

The next three weeks are absolutely critical

brightpilot6 said:It’s honestly incredible how much people can ignore what's right in front of them. Everyone acted like they were blindsided, as if they didn't see it coming. When I mentioned that the number of infections was significantly higher than reported, it was met with such disbelief—but really, no shit, Sherlock? We also seem to have developed a collective case of amnesia regarding my previous predictions that the numbers would actually be five, ten, or even a hundred times higher than what we were seeing.

It feels like there isn’t a single WhatsApp group in existence that doesn't contain at least one person who seemingly woke up this morning suddenly convinced that everyone else has lost their minds over some little virus. They walk around with this quiet certainty that if they had been at the helm from the very beginning, they would have handled the whole situation with much more grace and competence than anyone else. 🙏

And so it goes—everything is already settled, and that’s really all there is to say. 🙏

WhatsApp groups were honestly the absolute wildest during that earthquake. Seriously, every single group had that one person who had a friend, who had a buddy named Mark, whose aunt—who apparently "works at the Geological Survey"—told them an even bigger tremor was hitting in thirty minutes. 🙏

Jesse Sullivan5 said:The next three weeks are absolutely critical

He's back, and honestly, our good old MBS managed to bring him home🙏

Honestly, I don't have a strong preference either way. It seems to me that the strategies most countries are adopting right now are likely the ones designed to inflict the least amount of long-term damage on both sides.

I’m genuinely struggling to wrap my head around how people think the "economy" would actually function over the next year or two in an alternate reality where Italy somehow adopts the Swedish model.

-But what if the virus comes back even stronger?
-And what if it mutates into something much more lethal?
-What if the mortality rate is huge and they're covering it all up?
-What if they don't come up with a vaccine?
-What if we ease up on the restrictions too soon?

Where's the "but what if I just don't give a damn?" part?

If you look up there, you'll see where the log out option is located.

This is exactly what I’m talking about...
It’s nothing short of a catastrophe.
Pure intimidation tactics at this point.

And what happens if the mortality rate for people under 65 stays on par with a standard car accident, yet we’re all stuck indoors while those at high risk just head into churches?

It's a methodology built entirely on "what if" scenarios...

brightpilot6 said:But when exactly would we know? How much time would pass before we realize it has mutated for the worse? How many people could get infected in that interim, and what would the true cost of such a gamble be? Would you really feel comfortable signing off on that decision in front of the entire nation, especially when it goes against everything the epidemiologists are advising?

And what happens if they relax the rules like they did before the virus hit, only for it to mutate then?

btw, I’m actually curious about what the precautions look like for May Day.

Wait, has he always been moving like that... that yellow guy? wtf!? I honestly thought it was just a still photo...

They’re going to distribute the beans while maintaining social distancing and following all the epidemiological protocols

urbanhawk17 said:btw, I’m actually curious about what the precautions look like for May Day.

Milan Bandić's gonna handle it—some Canadian guy will probably just be out there spraying everyone with disinfectant.

Šprajc listens for maybe a minute and a half, then he drops a line about "Zadar-Knin County" and just like that, I’m totally checked out of the rest of it. 😬

ruggedjackal46 said:You completely missed the point regarding the Arena; give it another shot.

Since you were so confident in claiming that Sweden has greater healthcare capacity than America for dealing with Coronavirus, it would be nice if you actually backed that up with something substantial.
Otherwise, it just sounds like another empty cliché. If you provide actual data and figures, I can actually accept it as a fact and use it in a debate tomorrow. But like this? It's useless. Honestly.

Fine:





Source: link

These numbers are from 2016, but I doubt they've shifted drastically in a way that favors America. It doesn't list salaries or the number of staff who left the country, but I think it's indicative enough.

You totally missed the part where most of these are nurses, and there’s actually another chart out there showing that nurses in America hover around nearly 500 per 100,000 people, but since Sweden isn't even on that particular graph, you obviously didn't include it. 🙂

It doesn't really matter though, because even if they have more medical staff, their capacity is lower, so I still don't see where the advantage is supposed to be. I was expecting a way bigger gap than this.

I mean, imagine if we had 2,000 deaths here while they only had 50; that would be the ultimate, permanent proof that their healthcare system is lightyears ahead of ours.

Amanda Evans2 said:This is exactly what I’m talking about...
It’s nothing short of a catastrophe.
Pure intimidation tactics at this point.

And what happens if the mortality rate for people under 65 stays on par with a standard car accident, yet we’re all stuck indoors while those at high risk just head into churches?

It's a methodology built entirely on "what if" scenarios...

People have completely lost their minds, I guess. It's pretty unprecedented to see 20 to 30-year-olds struggling this much psychologically.

So, apparently some of the supposedly level-headed folks on this forum have started labeling everyone else as if they aren't just plugged directly into the headquarters' database, uploading their opinions straight from the source.

Maybe just spend a little less time staring at the plexiglass at 2 in the afternoon. Or honestly, maybe it’s time to shake up the crew a bit, just so we don't have to deal with such a bad influence hanging around.🤷