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jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1301 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:( stop trying to defend the indefensible )

gleč healed
First off, you don't actually have any real proof that you've ever managed 😉 to heal anyone
you know?
So, honestly, you have even less right to call people out just because they don't believe in your ointment.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1302 ·
my apologies, jadesailor14😳 😳

I suspect the heated debates will finally subside now that I've turned on the ignore function🥳
...
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1303 ·
It’s kind of wild👎 how I just happened to stumble into this😠
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1304 ·
Since this forum is public and anyone can weigh in, I’ve got zero reason to ignore anyone. Actually, now that I’ve been named an advisor, I’m more than ready to jump into any debate—as long as we're sticking to real arguments.
I'm staying put.
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1305 ·
urbanbadger53 said:Hey everyone

http://www.hotspringsresort.com/info

Check out Hot Springs.
A buddy of mine has been going there for years and he’s totally clear of psoriasis now. Not sure how much of it is the water, but the Evening News actually ran a piece on Hot Springs saying it's one of the best spots in the US for treating psoriasis...
Definitely worth a shot. I'm thinking of doing seven days there first, then maybe heading down to the Gulf Coast later.
All the best!

😎 I can say whatever I want, but you'll see for yourself how well it works. For psoriasis? Maybe. But for bone issues, fractures, and stuff like that? It's great.
As for medical care, they only have doctors available in the mornings—just general practitioners.
If you need anything in the afternoon, God forbid, you're basically looking for a local healer or some old-school folk remedy.

Banja Gorge is better.👍

"European regions" is such a vague term anyway, not sure what they even meant by that.

Anyway, if you end up going, let us know how it goes when you get back!🙂
Mark Fox44 Mark Fox44 Member
17 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1306 ·
God bless everyone: all the ointment users, those who haven't started yet, Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans, Americans, and everyone else following along (I suppose an Ogulin resident falls into one of those categories too, ha-ha!)!!! I headed into Washington, D.C. this morning, and when I finally sat down at my computer, I saw you all had been quite busy. Since I played a small part in fueling the fire myself, I feel I ought to say a few more things. I don't consider myself an especially difficult person, nor am I someone who nitpicks or goes looking for trouble just for the sake of it. However, I do like to know exactly what I'm putting on my skin; regardless of which botanical ingredients are used, I’d want to know if there’s some sort of corticosteroid mixed in, simply because I’ve dealt with adverse reactions in the past. Life has taught me that when I'm unsure, I should pause, take stock of the situation, and decide whether to pass the ball forward, back, or just take a risk and charge toward the goal. This time, I’ve decided to press on, so we shall see how it unfolds.
In my previous post, I raised a few questions that were on my mind, and since I've mostly received answers, I feel a bit more confident moving forward. My apologies if I came across as overly sharp in certain statements, but this is a forum—it’s where we practice the democracy of conversation and weigh different perspectives so we can all refine our own stances. Because of that, I have no intention of ignoring anyone or holding a grudge over a difference of opinion. I’ll now respond to a few specific points mentioned, and please, don't take offense if you disagree with my take.
Regarding the surge in posts over the last few months, I don't think it's solely due to Michael Ramos3 joining the forum; I attribute it also to the arrival of cheaper high-speed internet in our markets. For instance, I wouldn't have been able to keep up with all these threads in a single month with my old connection. Also, regarding the idea of a "coordinated attack," I believe it was sparked more by Gregory Mendoza3's report rather than any kind of "organized criminal conspiracy" aimed at targeting Michael Ramos3.
Since Gregory Mendoza3 claims he is 90% sure the allergic reaction was caused by the ointment, I have no reason to doubt his credibility, even though he hasn't received his official test results yet. The man experienced a direct reaction as soon as he began applying the cream. This really ought to be a prompt for Michael Ramos3 to identify exactly which substance triggered the reaction so it can be avoided in the future. It would be perfectly sufficient to simply add a note to the instructions advising people with allergies to specific plants or ingredients to use caution.
As for the use of bold text, I find it unnecessary; it only serves to heighten tensions, and for those of us dealing with psoriasis, stress is the last thing we need.
Occlusion involves wrapping, which means covering the applied area with something like plastic wrap—a technique used with many topical treatments for psoriasis. Some more aggressive preparations aren't recommended for this method, but since the ointment seems quite occlusive on its own due to its sticky consistency, I think I'll try wrapping my shin tonight to see how it reacts. I'll write about that tomorrow.
Anyway, I've settled into this daily routine of applying the cream and showering, and since I'm currently free from heavy work pressure, it isn't too much of a chore.
Regarding the price and the profit margins on the ointment, I have to be honest. A price of 60 dollars feels quite steep to me, especially since I personally require two containers a month. Considering average incomes in our parts, particularly in places like the Midwest, that is certainly not pocket change. I assume the actual cost of production is significantly lower than the retail price, so, in keeping with the constant emphasis on loving God, it might be wise to consider a price adjustment. Personally, the amount isn't prohibitive for me, provided it continues to "work" as effectively as it has been; if it keeps this up, I could be "clear" by the end of summer, something I haven't managed to achieve in nearly 11 years of battling psoriasis.
Best wishes to everyone; don't get worked up—you won't feel better by biting your nails!
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1307 ·
🙂 👏
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1308 ·
jadesailor14 said:using common sense

let's dial down the tension a bit
My internet is acting like a snail today, so please bear with a poor moderator
my bad😁

Quick question for you guys.

Am I allowed to send and receive up to 75 messages? Because if I hit that limit, what happens next???
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1309 ·
Robert Clark2 said:I have a question for you.

If I'm allowed to send and receive 75 messages, what happens once I hit that limit???

Just delete them! 😬
Then you can get right back to it! 😁
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1310 ·
jadesailor14 said:just wipe them off😬
and go at it again😁

Thanks😉

Wiping them right now👍
Gregory Mendoza3 Gregory Mendoza3 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2007
#1311 ·
Alright folks... I'm not posting this whole saga just to start some massive argument with you guys, but honestly, I felt like I owed it to everyone to share what went down...

Just look at the math for a second, okay?

How many people here actually enjoy snacking on peanuts?

And how many of you are actually allergic to them?

Well, I fall into that tiny 2-3% "lucky" group dealing with psoriasis, maybe in the top 5% with the heavy-duty skin changes, and then I'm part of that 0.00001% who finally tracks down that legendary "Cure" ointment, only to turn out to be the VERY FIRST person to have an allergic reaction to it... CONGRATS TO ME.

That’s the whole damn story right there.

😳

Jbga

P.S. I'm done talking about this topic... there's really no point in dragging it out anymore...
Gregory Mendoza3 Gregory Mendoza3 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2007
#1312 ·
So I was at the office today fighting the good fight, asking my boss if I could finally ditch the heavy layers for some short sleeves and shorts... normally we’re all stuck in full suits and ties because the AC in this building is cranked up so high it feels like a meat locker... but guess what? I actually got the green light 🤣

And get this—they even gave me the thumbs up to blast my music while I'm grinding away in my office, as long as I wear headphones so nobody else has to suffer through my playlist

So here I am, literally the only guy in the whole damn building rocking cargo shorts and a loud, white patterned Hawaiian shirt, ears plugged with tunes and feeling nothing but pure vibes, just knocking out these presentations😛

The only catch is I still have to suit up when I head into meetings 🙄

Muahah, man, it feels so good to finally be comfortable, I'm gonna soak this up for as long as they let me .............😎
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1313 ·
Gregory Mendoza3 said:And here I am, the only one left in my swim trunks and a loud Hawaiian shirt, music pumping through the ears and a massive hangover from weekend to weekend, just getting some presentations ready...😛

Haha...👍 🤣
silentheron25 silentheron25 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1314 ·
To give an update on my situation: I’ve been applying it for a few days now, but since I'm no longer on vacation, I just don't always have the time. Sometimes I get too tired and just go to sleep. Michael Ramos3 said not to expect the larger spots to disappear within a month, but I’ve been applying it consistently, and those haven't budged at all—not even a little. Only a couple of them might have cleared up completely, and maybe two or three on my stomach faded slightly, though you can still see them clearly. After a full month of constant application with almost zero effect, I'm feeling a bit discouraged because I expected at least these smaller ones to vanish, which they haven't. All these arguments and these mile-long posts are exhausting; it's a chore just to read through them. But he's right—if you don't want to Cure yourself, nothing will help, though it hasn't helped much for me either, despite my efforts. The biggest spot on my leg hasn't moved; the center just faded a bit, but it's still there. So, I guess it's like everything else so far: for some, it works perfectly, for others, nothing happens, and for some, it's just partial or minimal progress.
rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1315 ·
Michael Ramos3 says:I honestly can't wrap my head around this much hypocrisy and envy.
Michael Ramos3 says:If you don't actually have the will to find a Cure, then there isn't a remedy in the world for you.
Michael Ramos3 says:It’s also pretty obvious that I'm being targeted by people just spamming posts one after another..

Look, Michael Ramos3, what exactly are we "hypocrites" supposed to be envious of if we aren't looking for a Cure? Maybe it's because you're trying to help us—or maybe it's because your father cleared up his psoriasis, or because some people using your stuff are actually feeling better right now. I won't go on forever, but you aren't in any position to sit in judgment here, especially not through an online forum. Every single one of us is out here trying to find a way to get better, often falling victim to all sorts of scammers who prey on that exact desperation. Does being cautious make us hypocrites or envious? Honestly, you might want to ask yourself who the real hypocrite is here.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1316 ·
silentheron25 said:Regarding my own status, I'll give you the update. I haven't been applying it much the last few days because I'm back from vacation and honestly, sometimes I just don't have the energy. I get tired and just go to bed. Michael Ramos3 said we shouldn't expect the bigger patches to vanish within a month, but I've been applying it, even the small ones, and they haven't moved at all. Not even a bit. Only maybe two or three tiny spots cleared up; the ones on my stomach faded slightly, but you can still see them clearly. After a month of constant application with almost zero effect, I'm getting frustrated because I expected at least the smaller ones to budge. All these arguments are exhausting. These mile-long posts are a headache to read. But hey, Michael Ramos3 is right—if you don't want to Cure yourself, nothing will help, though it hasn't helped me much either even when I try. The biggest patch on my leg hasn't moved; the center just faded, but it's still there. So, once again, it looks like for some people everything clears, for others nothing, and for some, just a little or partial...


Unfortunately, I think I misunderstood things personally.
I thought we were talking about things that actually matter to our lives here, stuff that goes beyond the typical daily inconveniences and minor problems we deal with.
My bad that "silentheron25" gets too tired in the evening to keep applying the cream.
Maybe he needed another 5-6 days to clear up, or maybe he needed another 25-26 days. Unfortunately, we'll never know because he stopped using it.
Everything I wrote regarding how this ointment works and its effects stays the same as what I posted on previous pages.
Read through my posts and you'll see what I wrote about both the fastest cases of the ointment working (though apparently dragon 1000 set a new record) and the slowest ones.
I stand by everything I've written (just like those posts are still sitting there).
I think you got the wrong idea based on "Dragon's" results since you both started using it at almost the exact same time.
Check Gregory Mendoza3's detailed report after his hospital discharge; you'll see he started noticing results after just 4 or 5 days of application.
That definitely doesn't mean you, or anyone else, should expect identical results.
For the last 3 or 4 years, my father has insisted on applying the ointment himself, specifically so he can monitor the extent of the psoriasis and estimate how long it'll take. For example, Gregory Mendoza3 actually told him he wouldn't need to use it for very long.

With faith in God

Regards
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1317 ·
Heading out tonight for my annual vacation down by the Atlantic coast.
With any luck, I’ll be back at my desk by the 30th.
Hoping there are enough internet cafes along the coast so I can stay connected and keep checking in with you guys.

😎 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Robert Clark2 Robert Clark2 Active Member
121 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1318 ·
Michael Ramos3;9280658 said:
Check out Gregory Mendoza3's full report from when he got discharged. You'll see even he started noticing things after just a quick 4 or 5 days of using it.

What exactly was he putting on his skin?😕

Man, this guy sure knows how to stir up a controversy, doesn't he?👎

But hey, his track record is solid.👍

If he keeps going like this, we're gonna end up with a book longer than 100 pages!

Best, from your locallife coach and counselor👍
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1319 ·
Robert Clark2;9287348 said:
Michael Ramos3 said:Read Octov's detailed report after he left the hospital. You'll see even he started noticing results during those short 4-5 days of application.

What was he even using?😕

Man, how much controversy can one guy stir up?👎

His stats are solid though.👍

If this keeps up, we'll hit 100 pages before we know it.

Cheers from your localadvisor and soul searcher👍


Look, just be precise. What exactly isn't clear and why all the drama? I'll explain it.
Stop being so cynical. Just accept what you don't understand and change.
\
Regards
silentheron25 silentheron25 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1320 ·
You guys are being exhausting. What’s the deal? Come on, jadesailor14, step up and get involved already. It's about time you actually settled something. 🙂

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