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Psychotropic medication discussion thread

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velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
144 messages
joined Feb 2009
#2061 ·
fadedbear92 said:And I’ll tell you the same thing—you have to go through psychotherapy and do the work. There really isn't any other way. How else would you "try" differently? I mean, you can't just sit there repeating "I'm not afraid of people" to yourself forever and expect it to vanish; you have to actually dig up the root cause of that fear and deal with it—which is a joint effort between you and your therapist.

Look, I get what you're saying, but I think I already know exactly where my fear comes from. It was my father. Honestly, it’s hard to even put into words—it was that same kind of bone-deep, paralyzing terror you'd imagine someone feeling during the darkest days of World War II. But knowing the cause doesn't change the reality; just because I know why I'm terrified doesn't mean the fear has suddenly decided to leave me alone.
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
131 messages
joined Nov 2010
#2062 ·
Bill Gates says...
Larry Lewis said:Poor thing... I don't even know what to tell you. Maybe try punching someone you're afraid of in the nose? Who knows, maybe that'll clear your head.🙂

But seriously... look, you have a million different medications out there to choose from. It's entirely possible that the stuff you're currently taking just isn't doing the job.

I guess there might be some truth to that.😁
The truth is, people struggling with all sorts of anxieties could probably use a bit more healthy aggression. And maybe some selfishness, too. They tend to worry about everyone else instead of themselves. Of course, predators pick up on that, which is why they’re the ones being targeted. It’s a vicious cycle, I guess.😢
That's just how it goes, I guess. It’s not the weak who get screwed over; it's the good ones. Maybe.☕
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
174 messages
joined Dec 2009
#2063 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:🤣 This is honestly getting ridiculous at this point. I mean, seriously, how many times has it been this exact same scenario where Robert Collins2 ends up in some heated argument? It seems like people just can't stomach her posts anymore, and now, predictably, Admin has gone ahead and blocked her.
Well... I suppose I should have seen this coming from the start... though I really don't want to claim I told you so.

To get back to the actual topic at hand... I don't know about you all, but I find it somewhat difficult to wrap my head around the idea of using an Adderall prescription as a daily crutch for five years straight. At some point, you have to admit that you're basically dealing with an addiction. 😢

Mickey Mouse, Mark Zuckerberg didn't block me, it was a moderator on a different subforum, so shut it! 😛 😁

Go grab a drink for the New Year, seriously!
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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joined Dec 2008
#2064 ·
velvetsailor26 said:Look, I get what you're saying, but I think I already know exactly where my fear comes from. It was my father. Honestly, it’s hard to even put into words—it was that same kind of bone-deep, paralyzing terror you'd imagine someone feeling during the darkest days of World War II. But knowing the cause doesn't change the reality; just because I know why I'm terrified doesn't mean the fear has suddenly decided to leave me alone.

Look, you really need to go talk to a therapist about this, seriously!
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#2065 ·
Robert Collins2 said:Mickey Mouse, Mark Zuckerberg didn't block me, it was a moderator on a different subforum, so shut it! 😛 😁

Go grab a drink for the New Year, seriously!


🙂 Thanks, I suppose I'll have one. 🙂

Happy New Year to you! (The year, not you, obviously) 😁
Matthew Lee65 Matthew Lee65 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2066 ·
Happy New Year, everyone. Here’s hoping this year treats you better than the last one and stays kind to your health. 🙂 Now, go grab a drink, relax, and stop worrying about things you can't control. 😁
amberdriver85 amberdriver85 Member
21 messages
joined May 2009
#2067 ·
velvetsailor26 said:So, what's your reason for taking it?
For me, it's social anxiety.

depression, honestly, I've cut it out completely

now I'm just sticking to Wellbutrin
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
174 messages
joined Dec 2009
#2068 ·
velvetsailor26 said:Look, I get what you're saying, but I think I already know exactly where my fear comes from. It was my father. Honestly, it’s hard to even put into words—it was that same kind of bone-deep, paralyzing terror you'd imagine someone feeling during the darkest days of World War II. But knowing the cause doesn't change the reality; just because I know why I'm terrified doesn't mean the fear has suddenly decided to leave me alone.

Have you ever actually sat him down and talked about it? A lot of parents in this country just refuse to own up to the fact that they played a part in their kids' mental struggles.
Matthew Lee65 Matthew Lee65 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2069 ·
Robert Collins2 said:Have you ever actually sat him down and talked about it? A lot of parents in this country just refuse to own up to the fact that they played a part in their kids' mental struggles.

And there are plenty of them... constantly messing with your head.😁
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
174 messages
joined Dec 2009
#2070 ·
Matthew Lee65 said:And there are plenty of them... constantly messing with your head.😁

Look, I get it, but someone’s gotta call them out on it. It isn't exactly a pretty sight to witness, but it needs to happen, and lately, I've been making it my business to step up and deal with it head-on. ☕

And if I'm being real, I am actually starting to see some small signs that things might be heading in a better direction.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2071 ·
My folks are actually pretty great now—but only after I ended up in the hospital. Honestly, even before that stint, we were struggling to see eye to eye, and things were... let's just say "tense" would be an understatement. But once everything went down at the clinic, something shifted. It’s like a fog lifted. Now? We’re on excellent terms, truly. I’ve decided I’m never moving out of the house—I'll be under their roof forever. hehe
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#2072 ·
Larry Lewis said:My folks are actually pretty great now—but only after I ended up in the hospital. Honestly, even before that stint, we were struggling to see eye to eye, and things were... let's just say "tense" would be an understatement. But once everything went down at the clinic, something shifted. It’s like a fog lifted. Now? We’re on excellent terms, truly. I’ve decided I’m never moving out of the house—I'll be under their roof forever. hehe

I might actually be heading into the hospital myself soon, probably for a few weeks. My folks are relieved about it, which is a shame because I'd much rather not have to deal with all this hassle. But after getting a glimpse of what my living situation is going to look like once I'm discharged... well, I'm just counting down the days until I move out.😁
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#2073 ·
Robert Collins2 said:Look, I get it, but someone’s gotta call them out on it. It isn't exactly a pretty sight to witness, but it needs to happen, and lately, I've been making it my business to step up and deal with it head-on. ☕

And if I'm being real, I am actually starting to see some small signs that things might be heading in a better direction.

I find myself doing the same thing, I guess. But honestly, there’s just no winning when you're dealing with someone who was raised thinking things worked a certain way fifty years ago; I could probably lecture her for four days straight without stopping, and she’d just eventually tune me out and say something like:
"Ugh... everything is so overcomplicated nowadays. Back in my day, we just got on with it—if you had a fever, you just kept working! "😂
dustygardener25 dustygardener25 Member
18 messages
joined Nov 2010
#2074 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:I find myself doing the same thing, I guess. But honestly, there’s just no winning when you're dealing with someone who was raised thinking things worked a certain way fifty years ago; I could probably lecture her for four days straight without stopping, and she’d just eventually tune me out and say something like:
"Ugh... everything is so overcomplicated nowadays. Back in my day, we just got on with it—if you had a fever, you just kept working! "😂

If you thought the title was about criticizing the healthcare system by comparing it to old-school communism, then you're totally missing the point. Back in the day under the old regime, healthcare was actually among the best in the world—not to mention how skilled the psychiatrists were. A friend of mine bounced between hospitals and modern-day doctors for ages before he finally ran into a retired psychiatrist from a VA hospital. That guy pulled him out of schizophrenia without any heavy meds, and not one single doctor in this current government setup has ever helped him like that. I've even had minor surgeries myself during that era. That was real medicine. Today? They aren't doctors anymore; they're just bureaucrats and paper-pushers. ☕
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
264 messages
joined Apr 2013
#2075 ·
dustygardener25 said:If you thought the title was about criticizing the healthcare system by comparing it to old-school communism, then you're totally missing the point. Back in the day under the old regime, healthcare was actually among the best in the world—not to mention how skilled the psychiatrists were. A friend of mine bounced between hospitals and modern-day doctors for ages before he finally ran into a retired psychiatrist from a VA hospital. That guy pulled him out of schizophrenia without any heavy meds, and not one single doctor in this current government setup has ever helped him like that. I've even had minor surgeries myself during that era. That was real medicine. Today? They aren't doctors anymore; they're just bureaucrats and paper-pushers. ☕

Sure, maybe those old-school psychiatrists were technically skilled, but their ethics were practically non-existent. They were more than happy to weaponize psychiatry for political gain, essentially locking up perfectly sane dissidents in mental institutions just because they disagreed with the government.🙄 🤮
Matthew Lee65 Matthew Lee65 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2076 ·
There are so many threads here I’m not even sure where to drop this... anyway, these ads over the last few days have been hitting me weirdly during the day. Everything just feels flat. It’s awful. I have zero motivation... can’t even bring myself to laugh, which is pretty rare for me lately. On top of that, the right side of my head has started aching. It’s been going on for a couple of days now—just the right side. It feels like my head is split in two. Just a strange, nagging pain... uhhh
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#2077 ·
dustygardener25 said:If you thought the title was about criticizing the healthcare system by comparing it to old-school communism, then you're totally missing the point. Back in the day under the old regime, healthcare was actually among the best in the world—not to mention how skilled the psychiatrists were. A friend of mine bounced between hospitals and modern-day doctors for ages before he finally ran into a retired psychiatrist from a VA hospital. That guy pulled him out of schizophrenia without any heavy meds, and not one single doctor in this current government setup has ever helped him like that. I've even had minor surgeries myself during that era. That was real medicine. Today? They aren't doctors anymore; they're just bureaucrats and paper-pushers. ☕

I'm not sure what you're getting at here; I think you've completely misread the situation. That isn't really what this is about at all.
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
220 messages
joined Jul 2009
#2078 ·
Matthew Castillo5 said:Sure, maybe those old-school psychiatrists were technically skilled, but their ethics were practically non-existent. They were more than happy to weaponize psychiatry for political gain, essentially locking up perfectly sane dissidents in mental institutions just because they disagreed with the government.🙄 🤮

Even today, there are plenty of people willing to abuse their positions for the wrong reasons; isn't it true that the maybe underlying motivations have simply shifted?
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
264 messages
joined Apr 2013
#2079 ·
Roger Rodriguez said:Even today, there are plenty of people willing to abuse their positions for the wrong reasons; isn't it true that the maybe underlying motivations have simply shifted?

True. You only have to look at how Radovan Karr and Jovan Rašković turned their medical backgrounds into weapons—not to mention the fact that, unfortunately, there are sexual predators hiding within the psychiatric profession too. But honestly, that’s a whole different rabbit hole, and we're already drifting way off-topic here.
Ronald Barnes3 Ronald Barnes3 Newcomer
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#2080 ·
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