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Gerald Torres2 Gerald Torres2 Active Member
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#5301 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:Feel free to ask anything. I'm 30 years old now, and I feel like I've tried just about every stupid thing there is; honestly, I wish I hadn't. I suppose I forgot to mention that I am still taking methadone, and they actually bumped my dose up to 16ml a day. I haven't been back to see my doctor to get the new prescription finalized yet, so once I've gone through those 16ml, I'll let you know how it feels.😉
Yeah... methadone is typically prescribed to folks struggling with heroin, acting as a way to taper off, though there are certainly people who end up hooked on the methadone itself. You might start with a single pill that gives you this sense of euphoria and peace, where all the negatives in your life just seem to vanish and you feel great... but then you eventually find yourself needing ten pills a day or more, and at that point, you're really in a bind.😁

Now, regarding your specific situation... I know people go that route too. But why did they increase your dose? I mean, isn't there supposed to be a way to eventually get off it? It's essentially a legal high if you aren't careful.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5302 ·
So, I recently started popping methadone.

What kind of side effects am I usually looking at with this stuff?
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#5303 ·
Gerald Torres2 said:Now, regarding your specific situation... I know people go that route too. But why did they increase your dose? I mean, isn't there supposed to be a way to eventually get off it? It's essentially a legal high if you aren't careful.

It isn't a legal high. Methadone doesn't provide that euphoric rush that hits you so hard you feel like you're floating and suddenly love everything in sight; I guess they actually managed to strip away the best part of it from the formula.
There is no way methadone is even remotely close to a high!!!🙂 I mean, do you honestly think the CDC would be handing out chemical highs? Methadone is just the closest thing to a high, nothing more. It’s not an elevator like Suboxone; it's more like a slide. I had to increase my dose because my tolerance grew to the point where my old dose was just insufficient—I literally couldn't function. I suppose you aren't really familiar with how this works, so let me put it this way: my body became so accustomed to that specific dose of methadone that I reached a point where I couldn't walk, talk normally, or laugh... I was constantly feeling sick.
That is precisely why we use the term "functioning." Now, I might actually be able to function like a normal person again. It's a closed loop, I realize that.
Gerald Torres2 Gerald Torres2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#5304 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:It isn't a legal high. Methadone doesn't provide that euphoric rush that hits you so hard you feel like you're floating and suddenly love everything in sight; I guess they actually managed to strip away the best part of it from the formula.
There is no way methadone is even remotely close to a high!!!🙂 I mean, do you honestly think the CDC would be handing out chemical highs? Methadone is just the closest thing to a high, nothing more. It’s not an elevator like Suboxone; it's more like a slide. I had to increase my dose because my tolerance grew to the point where my old dose was just insufficient—I literally couldn't function. I suppose you aren't really familiar with how this works, so let me put it this way: my body became so accustomed to that specific dose of methadone that I reached a point where I couldn't walk, talk normally, or laugh... I was constantly feeling sick.
That is precisely why we use the term "functioning." Now, I might actually be able to function like a normal person again. It's a closed loop, I realize that.

But then it just goes on forever... I don't understand how anyone is supposed to taper off a high using that method. I get that you build up a tolerance and need more, but is there actually a way to get off it? To be honest, I'm pretty clueless about this stuff...🤦
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#5305 ·
Gerald Torres2 said:But then it just goes on forever... I don't understand how anyone is supposed to taper off a high using that method. I get that you build up a tolerance and need more, but is there actually a way to get off it? To be honest, I'm pretty clueless about this stuff...🤦

That is what substitution therapy is.
Timothy Wood38 Timothy Wood38 Active Member
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#5306 ·
David Vaughn75 said:So, I recently started popping methadone.

What kind of side effects am I usually looking at with this stuff?

Usually, you're looking at drowsiness or feeling pretty sedated—plus those anticholinergic vibes, like having a super dry mouth. It really depends on why your doctor put you on it and what your dosage looks like. Personally, I was prescribed it for insomnia. I started at 100 mg, but honestly, nothing happened. I bumped it up to 300 mg, but even then, it wasn't doing much for me, so I ended up being on Prazin for maybe two weeks total before calling it quits. But hey, everyone reacts differently; it might actually work wonders for you. I know it used to be a go-to for sleep issues, though these days I think doctors have mostly swapped it out for things like Quetiapine (Seroquel or Q-pin).
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5307 ·
Timothy Wood38 said:Usually, you're looking at drowsiness or feeling pretty sedated—plus those anticholinergic vibes, like having a super dry mouth. It really depends on why your doctor put you on it and what your dosage looks like. Personally, I was prescribed it for insomnia. I started at 100 mg, but honestly, nothing happened. I bumped it up to 300 mg, but even then, it wasn't doing much for me, so I ended up being on Prazin for maybe two weeks total before calling it quits. But hey, everyone reacts differently; it might actually work wonders for you. I know it used to be a go-to for sleep issues, though these days I think doctors have mostly swapped it out for things like Quetiapine (Seroquel or Q-pin).

I was on Lorsilan for my anxiety, but since I stopped that, I've been using Prazin as a sort of substitute because Lorsilan is insanely addictive.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#5308 ·
Gerald Torres2 said:But then it just goes on forever... I don't understand how anyone is supposed to taper off a high using that method. I get that you build up a tolerance and need more, but is there actually a way to get off it? To be honest, I'm pretty clueless about this stuff...🤦

Of course there's a way. You head into a detox center—maybe a facility in Seattle or wherever you choose—where you're locked away with maybe eleven other people who are in similar situations, though honestly, many are much worse; we're talking criminals who have spent significant time in state prisons. There, they'll give you morphine until your tests come back negative for methadone, but then they switch you over to Suboxone. They market it as this "smart drug" designed to speed things up while you're stuck in the program, which is actually the polar opposite of how methadone works. It's a newer drug, so Big Pharma loves to praise it, but you know how that goes... once you actually look at the potential side effects, you start wondering what kind of poison they're actually feeding you. 🙂
Methadone doesn't carry nearly as many nasty side effects—anyone who doubts that can just read the fine print on both drugs and see for themselves. And then, you end up acting like a fool, trying to detox from the Suboxone all over again, which is its own special kind of hell, even if it's supposedly easier than weaning off methadone.
A whole crowd of people ends up cycling back to heroin; one stash sits there $2.25😁, while Suboxone $267🙂 (and of course, you aren't the one paying for it), so you have to ask yourself who the real crazy ones are here. Naturally, the pharmaceutical industry is raking in massive amounts of money on Suboxone, which is why they push it so hard, but in my view, it's pure poison. The question remains constant... if you've already tested negative for methadone during detox, why won't they just let you go home? Instead, they shove Suboxone down your throat so you can get hooked on that too!
It's because some people care more about lining their pockets through addicts than anything else—it really is as simple as that. 😠
Gerald Torres2 Gerald Torres2 Active Member
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#5309 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:Of course there's a way. You head into a detox center—maybe a facility in Seattle or wherever you choose—where you're locked away with maybe eleven other people who are in similar situations, though honestly, many are much worse; we're talking criminals who have spent significant time in state prisons. There, they'll give you morphine until your tests come back negative for methadone, but then they switch you over to Suboxone. They market it as this "smart drug" designed to speed things up while you're stuck in the program, which is actually the polar opposite of how methadone works. It's a newer drug, so Big Pharma loves to praise it, but you know how that goes... once you actually look at the potential side effects, you start wondering what kind of poison they're actually feeding you. 🙂
Methadone doesn't carry nearly as many nasty side effects—anyone who doubts that can just read the fine print on both drugs and see for themselves. And then, you end up acting like a fool, trying to detox from the Suboxone all over again, which is its own special kind of hell, even if it's supposedly easier than weaning off methadone.
A whole crowd of people ends up cycling back to heroin; one stash sits there $2.25😁, while Suboxone $267🙂 (and of course, you aren't the one paying for it), so you have to ask yourself who the real crazy ones are here. Naturally, the pharmaceutical industry is raking in massive amounts of money on Suboxone, which is why they push it so hard, but in my view, it's pure poison. The question remains constant... if you've already tested negative for methadone during detox, why won't they just let you go home? Instead, they shove Suboxone down your throat so you can get hooked on that too!
It's because some people care more about lining their pockets through addicts than anything else—it really is as simple as that. 😠

Exactly. Big Pharma intentionally makes people sick just so they can sell them the cure. First, they invent the drug, then they invent the disease it treats. If I recall correctly, they're even more powerful than the oil industry... it's terrifying. Essentially, if you want to function normally, you're sentenced to methadone... man, I don't envy you. I really hope you can find a way to get off this top-tier garbage without getting hooked on some other crap.
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#5310 ·
Olandix 15mg, Haldol 3mg, Akineton 3mg, Prazine 50mg, Cymbalta 60mg

Honestly, I could probably sleep for twenty-four hours straight if I took enough of this stuff to knock me out. 😢
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5311 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:Olandix 15mg, Haldol 3mg, Akineton 3mg, Prazine 50mg, Cymbalta 60mg

Honestly, I could probably sleep for twenty-four hours straight if I took enough of this stuff to knock me out. 😢

I seriously don't get why they're handing out Haldol to kids these days. 🤷

That’s supposed to be for old folks who aren't even responding to anything else anymore—not for people my age.
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#5312 ·
David Vaughn75 said:I seriously don't get why they're handing out Haldol to kids these days. 🤷

That’s supposed to be for old folks who aren't even responding to anything else anymore—not for people my age.

For me, though, Haldol actually works better than anything else. 🙄🤷
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#5313 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:Olandix 15mg, Haldol 3mg, Akineton 3mg, Prazine 50mg, Cymbalta 60mg

Honestly, I could probably sleep for twenty-four hours straight if I took enough of this stuff to knock me out. 😢

Honestly, I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be completely knocked out by that cocktail.
😢
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5314 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:For me, though, Haldol actually works better than anything else. 🙄🤷

Psychiatry is such a bizarre science, man

So, I’m supposedly living with schizophrenia—big deal—but all I’m actually taking is Olanzapine and Prozac (25), nothing else besides those
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#5315 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Honestly, I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be completely knocked out by that cocktail.
😢

Hopefully, the dosage will be dialed back soon. Fingers crossed.

David Vaughn75 said:Psychiatry is such a bizarre science, man

So, I’m supposedly living with schizophrenia—big deal—but all I’m actually taking is Olanzapine and Prozac (25), nothing else besides those

I was actually on a similar regimen until recently, but then I had another episode, so they bumped my meds up...
I have schizoaffective disorder (the depressive type).
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5316 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:Hopefully, the dosage will be dialed back soon. Fingers crossed.

I was actually on a similar regimen until recently, but then I had another episode, so they bumped my meds up...
I have schizoaffective disorder (the depressive type).

but hey, if things start looking up, they'll probably taper you down eventually, right?

I first went through the ringer back in 2006, and over the last six years when things were actually going okay, they managed to drop some of my meds and get my Zyprexa down to basically nothing.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#5317 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:Hopefully, the dosage will be dialed back soon. Fingers crossed.

I was actually on a similar regimen until recently, but then I had another episode, so they bumped my meds up...
I have schizoaffective disorder (the depressive type).

I understand; honestly, you don't really have any other viable options right now. Dealing with psychosis is an incredibly heavy burden to carry. Besides, the side effects from the necessary medications remain notoriously difficult to stomach. I truly admire how rationally you're approaching all of this. In my estimation, you actually have a very strong chance of feeling better soon.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#5318 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:Olandix 15mg, Haldol 3mg, Akineton 3mg, Prazine 50mg, Cymbalta 60mg

Honestly, I could probably sleep for twenty-four hours straight if I took enough of this stuff to knock me out. 😢

Oh my god, why on earth would you need that many medications?? Haldol plus Prazine too?! My psychiatrist would basically look at you and see a walking pharmacy.🤣
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#5319 ·
David Vaughn75 said:but hey, if things start looking up, they'll probably taper you down eventually, right?

I first went through the ringer back in 2006, and over the last six years when things were actually going okay, they managed to drop some of my meds and get my Zyprexa down to basically nothing.

My family always insisted I was just "unstable" since I was a little kid; they used to blame everything on my imagination or claim I just "loved to lie." It wasn't until 2009 that I finally sat down with a psychiatrist for the first time.

Anthony Lopez8 said:I understand; honestly, you don't really have any other viable options right now. Dealing with psychosis is an incredibly heavy burden to carry. Besides, the side effects from the necessary medications remain notoriously difficult to stomach. I truly admire how rationally you're approaching all of this. In my estimation, you actually have a very strong chance of feeling better soon.

I really hope you're right, thank you 🙂

Kenneth Scott41 said:Oh my god, why on earth would you need that many medications?? Haldol plus Prazine too?! My psychiatrist would basically look at you and see a walking pharmacy.🤣

My mom actually joked the other day that with all the pills I have, she could probably open her own drugstore.🤣
shadowbear9 shadowbear9 Active Member
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#5320 ·
Good evening. I’m dropping in to say hello and, honestly, to see if anyone can offer some actual advice. I don't browse this forum regularly, so I'll just jump straight into it. As of today, I've come to the realization that I am genuinely ill. I can't quite put my finger on the diagnosis, but it feels like social anxiety, phobias, or maybe Type B depression. I have absolutely zero desire to be around people or socialize; I much prefer staying home with my inner circle and my cat. Ever since I begged my doctor to reintroduce an antidepressant into my routine, things have gone south. I’ve been taking 10mg of Lexapro in the morning, and I can't say I see any improvement whatsoever. If anything, I feel more agitated and tense—literally hyperactive. I am never relaxed. A few days ago, I asked about Mirzaten for sleep after seeing some of you mention it here, and that actually sounds reasonable. It even helped my appetite increase, which is a small win considering I'm only 45kg and very picky about what I eat. However, I can barely get my hands on Mirtazapine. My doctor refuses to even give me the 1mg dose for sleep alongside my 10mg Sanval. It’s supposed to be prescribed as needed, but I made it very clear that I don't want the Lexapro and could really use a sedative during the day. By nature—or perhaps due to my condition—I am high-strung, and combined with this current crisis, I feel like a ticking time bomb for anyone around me. Is anyone else on a similar regimen? I'm dealing with insomnia and constant agitation, and when I approached my GP, she basically told me that since I'm already on Mirtazapine, there's nothing more she can do. Are these doses really considered that high? Also, my apologies—I didn't realize this section was designated for pregnancy discussions rather than psychotropic medications. Could a moderator please move this? Thanks.

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