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ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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joined Apr 2009
#1881 ·
Roger Rodriguez said:It’s most commonly used to manage depression, manic episodes, and schizophrenia.

Basically, it's what you turn to when you're feeling a little too Loquacious.😬
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#1882 ·
🤣 This is honestly getting ridiculous at this point. I mean, seriously, how many times has it been this exact same scenario where Robert Collins2 ends up in some heated argument? It seems like people just can't stomach her posts anymore, and now, predictably, Admin has gone ahead and blocked her.
Well... I suppose I should have seen this coming from the start... though I really don't want to claim I told you so.

To get back to the actual topic at hand... I don't know about you all, but I find it somewhat difficult to wrap my head around the idea of using an Adderall prescription as a daily crutch for five years straight. At some point, you have to admit that you're basically dealing with an addiction. 😢
Andrew Watson59 Andrew Watson59 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#1883 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:🤣 This is honestly getting ridiculous at this point. I mean, seriously, how many times has it been this exact same scenario where Robert Collins2 ends up in some heated argument? It seems like people just can't stomach her posts anymore, and now, predictably, Admin has gone ahead and blocked her.
Well... I suppose I should have seen this coming from the start... though I really don't want to claim I told you so.

To get back to the actual topic at hand... I don't know about you all, but I find it somewhat difficult to wrap my head around the idea of using an Adderall prescription as a daily crutch for five years straight. At some point, you have to admit that you're basically dealing with an addiction. 😢

I honestly don't get you people. It’s the 21st century and we’re still debating this? Depression is a disease, plain and simple—just like diabetes. Does a diabetic need to quit insulin because someone thinks they look like an addict? 😕 No. They take it for life because insulin is what keeps them alive. 🤷 What part of that is confusing?
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#1884 ·
Andrew Watson59 said:I honestly don't get you people. It’s the 21st century and we’re still debating this? Depression is a disease, plain and simple—just like diabetes. Does a diabetic need to quit insulin because someone thinks they look like an addict? 😕 No. They take it for life because insulin is what keeps them alive. 🤷 What part of that is confusing?

That’s precisely the part I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet; I struggle to view depression through that serious lens. I guess I've started seeing it as more significant since I began dealing with it myself, but how are we supposed to take it seriously when our parents act like it's a joke? They say things like, "Depression? Please, quit being so sensitive, go get a job and you'll feel better." I'm fairly certain about ninety-nine percent of parents hold that exact mindset. It makes me wonder how one is even meant to explain why they're on medication when their own family refuses to see it as a real medical condition, even once you're an adult. That seems to be the core of the issue.😠 And it’s incredibly frustrating, though I suppose there isn't much else I can do... I just have this forum and my own thoughts to lean on.
On top of all that, the side effects from taking antidepressants can be quite unpleasant, especially with things like libido issues and whatnot. I've lost count of how many times I've made those dark, sarcastic comments to my parents about wanting to end it all—treating it like a joke just to gauge their reaction—when, in reality, I actually meant it. They just laugh it off with a comment like, "Oh, stop talking nonsense." It's exhausting...🙄
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#1885 ·
Roger Rodriguez said:It’s most commonly used to manage depression, manic episodes, and schizophrenia.

So, I suppose if I even hint that I've been thinking about suicide, my doctor might just immediately prescribe that medication—the one that's basically the same as Seroquel, which feels like some heavy-duty stuff meant for horses!!
I'm honestly torn on whether I should actually come clean about it or not... I've always just said "no" whenever they ask me about suicidal thoughts.
any advice?
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
220 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1886 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:That’s precisely the part I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet; I struggle to view depression through that serious lens. I guess I've started seeing it as more significant since I began dealing with it myself, but how are we supposed to take it seriously when our parents act like it's a joke? They say things like, "Depression? Please, quit being so sensitive, go get a job and you'll feel better." I'm fairly certain about ninety-nine percent of parents hold that exact mindset. It makes me wonder how one is even meant to explain why they're on medication when their own family refuses to see it as a real medical condition, even once you're an adult. That seems to be the core of the issue.😠 And it’s incredibly frustrating, though I suppose there isn't much else I can do... I just have this forum and my own thoughts to lean on.
On top of all that, the side effects from taking antidepressants can be quite unpleasant, especially with things like libido issues and whatnot. I've lost count of how many times I've made those dark, sarcastic comments to my parents about wanting to end it all—treating it like a joke just to gauge their reaction—when, in reality, I actually meant it. They just laugh it off with a comment like, "Oh, stop talking nonsense." It's exhausting...🙄

Well, if you start treating depression with the seriousness it deserves, isn't the problem solved?
If you're an adult, why does your parents' opinion carry so much weight? You're grown, and you're the one deciding how to live your life. As for people who claim depression isn't a real medical condition? They've clearly never experienced it themselves, so why should their opinions matter to you at all? 🙂
Kenneth Scott41 said:So, I suppose if I even hint that I've been thinking about suicide, my doctor might just immediately prescribe that medication—the one that's basically the same as Seroquel, which feels like some heavy-duty stuff meant for horses!!
I'm honestly torn on whether I should actually come clean about it or not... I've always just said "no" whenever they ask me about suicidal thoughts.
any advice?

How can you not know whether to tell her? Do you actually want to get better? If you do, you need to be completely honest and share every single thought running through your head.
Can we please stop acting like psychiatrists have no clue what they're doing? First, Kenneth Scott41, you criticize psychiatric drugs, then someone else claims doctors are incompetent, and yet here you are, doubting whether you should tell the truth.
For God's sake, how can anyone help you or find the right treatment if you aren't honest!? Loquacious isn't the only option for treating depression; if you're so against it, ask for something else.
velvetsailor26 velvetsailor26 Active Member
144 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1887 ·
Is anyone else here taking Zyprexa? The fine print says it’s meant for schizophrenia, but I’m popping these daily without having any symptoms of that nature myself.
So, what's the reason you guys are using it?
Andrew Watson59 Andrew Watson59 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#1888 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:That’s precisely the part I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet; I struggle to view depression through that serious lens. I guess I've started seeing it as more significant since I began dealing with it myself, but how are we supposed to take it seriously when our parents act like it's a joke? They say things like, "Depression? Please, quit being so sensitive, go get a job and you'll feel better." I'm fairly certain about ninety-nine percent of parents hold that exact mindset. It makes me wonder how one is even meant to explain why they're on medication when their own family refuses to see it as a real medical condition, even once you're an adult. That seems to be the core of the issue.😠 And it’s incredibly frustrating, though I suppose there isn't much else I can do... I just have this forum and my own thoughts to lean on.
On top of all that, the side effects from taking antidepressants can be quite unpleasant, especially with things like libido issues and whatnot. I've lost count of how many times I've made those dark, sarcastic comments to my parents about wanting to end it all—treating it like a joke just to gauge their reaction—when, in reality, I actually meant it. They just laugh it off with a comment like, "Oh, stop talking nonsense." It's exhausting...🙄

In my experience, 90% of people struggling with depression run into this exact wall with their parents. With the help of my therapist, I eventually just gave up on trying to make them understand. I stopped attempting to bridge the gap. The reality is, I see something clearly that they are simply blind to, and you can't force sight. Now, I don't even discuss my depression or my AD use with them anymore.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#1889 ·
Andrew Watson59 said:In my experience, 90% of people struggling with depression run into this exact wall with their parents. With the help of my therapist, I eventually just gave up on trying to make them understand. I stopped attempting to bridge the gap. The reality is, I see something clearly that they are simply blind to, and you can't force sight. Now, I don't even discuss my depression or my AD use with them anymore.

You really are right about that; it's quite true. There isn't much you can actually do for them, other than either letting yourself get worked up or simply tuning them out entirely. Though, in my case, my mother has this uncanny way of getting under my skin no matter how hard I try to stay detached.🙂
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#1890 ·
SuperCow;30047943 said:Maybe if you just started taking depression seriously, everything would be sorted out.
If you consider yourself an adult, I suppose it shouldn't really matter what older generations think about your situation. You’re an adult in the US now, and you get to decide how to navigate your own life. As for those people who claim depression isn't a real medical condition—well, honestly, they probably haven't actually lived through it themselves, so their opinions don't carry much weight with me at all. 🙂

I never suggested that psychiatric medications were a bad thing; in fact, I’m quite a strong advocate for them. But, you know how mothers can be... even if I were fifty years old, she’d likely still be hovering over me, convinced I was just swallowing some nonsense instead of actual medicine.
It’s not that I care about what society thinks, it's more that my mother is the type of person who can still get under my skin, and I guess I can't really blame myself for letting her.🙂 I might have stumbled upon a bit of a solution, though—a way to handle things logically.😉

Look, I can't possibly know what your experience has been like... but it isn't exactly easy to sit down in front of a doctor and casually mention that you're having suicidal thoughts. It’s not something you just blurt out. You have to find a certain amount of courage to say it, and that's the tricky part. I don't know... I suppose I'll just spend the next few days thinking about it.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#1891 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:You really are right about that; it's quite true. There isn't much you can actually do for them, other than either letting yourself get worked up or simply tuning them out entirely. Though, in my case, my mother has this uncanny way of getting under my skin no matter how hard I try to stay detached.🙂

I find myself in the same position; I have absolutely no desire to force a conversation right now. It feels like trying to push a stubborn horse that simply refuses to budge, no matter how much pressure you apply. My family is being exactly the same way... it’s exhausting.
It seems they only ever fall silent once I’ve finally had to give them a piece of my mind.
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
174 messages
joined Dec 2009
#1892 ·
velvetsailor26 said:Is anyone else here taking Zyprexa? The fine print says it’s meant for schizophrenia, but I’m popping these daily without having any symptoms of that nature myself.
So, what's the reason you guys are using it?

I’m on Lotenex myself, and nope, no schizo or bipolar issues over here—my psychiatrist just told me it's what I need, so I trust her. 😂 😁

They prescribed mine for suicidal ideation, which is probably why they put you on Zyprexa too, I'd guess. 😉
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
174 messages
joined Dec 2009
#1893 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:So, I suppose if I even hint that I've been thinking about suicide, my doctor might just immediately prescribe that medication—the one that's basically the same as Seroquel, which feels like some heavy-duty stuff meant for horses!!
I'm honestly torn on whether I should actually come clean about it or not... I've always just said "no" whenever they ask me about suicidal thoughts.
any advice?

Honestly, Lotenex and Seroquel are like little baby drugs compared to Nocturnal. I mean, what do you think? It wasn't easy for me to sit there and tell my wife I wanted to end it all, but if I hadn't been honest, she wouldn't have been able to help me out or get my dosage bumped up to include the antipsychotic I actually needed to stay level.

So, here I am today, still kicking. You try gambling with your life and popping benzos over the weekend and see how that goes for you; they seriously just make the suicidal side of depression way worse. ☕
mistypuma26 mistypuma26 Newcomer
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#1894 ·
A friend of mine is currently on a combination of Lotenex (Seroquel) and Lithium. On top of that, she’s taking Prozac once a day. Does anyone here have any insight into how long someone typically has to stay on Lithium? She went through a manic episode, twice
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#1895 ·
mistypuma26 said:A friend of mine is currently on a combination of Lotenex (Seroquel) and Lithium. On top of that, she’s taking Prozac once a day. Does anyone here have any insight into how long someone typically has to stay on Lithium? She went through a manic episode, twice

From what I understand, you have to keep your lithium levels steady in your bloodstream, which means it's likely a long-term commitment.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#1896 ·
Robert Collins2 said:Honestly, Lotenex and Seroquel are like little baby drugs compared to Nocturnal. I mean, what do you think? It wasn't easy for me to sit there and tell my wife I wanted to end it all, but if I hadn't been honest, she wouldn't have been able to help me out or get my dosage bumped up to include the antipsychotic I actually needed to stay level.

So, here I am today, still kicking. You try gambling with your life and popping benzos over the weekend and see how that goes for you; they seriously just make the suicidal side of depression way worse. ☕


I am planning on telling her. I've spent these last few days having some pretty heavy, deep conversations with myself... and I've finally concluded that I just have to come clean. Now, the thing is... I suspect she might not take me seriously. Or, she'll just hand me a referral for a psychiatrist, and in this city, the waiting list for a psychiatric evaluation can be two months long! 😠 That’s probably exactly how it will go, and I honestly don't know how she expects me to just sit around and wait those one or two months for an appointment. To be fair, every psychiatrist in my area has a backlog like that, which isn't really surprising given the history of the system...👎

Do you think my primary care doctor could prescribe something like Seroquel? Did she prescribe it to you directly, or did she have to send you to a specialist first? I just can't wait... I need to get this out of my system, otherwise, I feel like an astronaut just drifting aimlessly through space. 😢
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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joined Apr 2009
#1897 ·
In my experience, you shouldn't be touching any psychotropic medication—unless it’s some useless little nothing like Normabal—without a psychiatrist signing off on it. You can't just have some random GP or a local family doctor scribbling prescriptions for heavy-duty stuff. It's ridiculous. 😁)

If you think you’re actually going to score some Xanax from a dealer—and I mean the absolute bare minimum dosage that would make a saint weep—you’re dreaming. You might as well stop hoping altogether while you wait for the inevitable end.
Robert Collins2 Robert Collins2 Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#1898 ·
ambermason16 said:In my experience, you shouldn't be touching any psychotropic medication—unless it’s some useless little nothing like Normabal—without a psychiatrist signing off on it. You can't just have some random GP or a local family doctor scribbling prescriptions for heavy-duty stuff. It's ridiculous. 😁)

If you think you’re actually going to score some Xanax from a dealer—and I mean the absolute bare minimum dosage that would make a saint weep—you’re dreaming. You might as well stop hoping altogether while you wait for the inevitable end.

😂 🤣

Exactly, you gotta go straight to the shrink!

"Primary care doc," lol.... 🤣 👍
Michael Reed45 Michael Reed45 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#1899 ·
I completely blanked yesterday on the fact that I needed a referral 😂 from my doctor. I ended up rushing around trying to track it down. It’s happened so many times before—I honestly feel like I could just walk in there with my hands in my pockets and they'd let me through. 😁
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active Member
164 messages
joined Apr 2010
#1900 ·
After my session with the psychiatrist today, my treatment plan was updated. I’ve been prescribed 150 mg of Wellbutrin XL. Apparently, it is effective for this kind of lethargic, "can't-be-bothered," fatigue-heavy depression, and it should theoretically jumpstart my energy and appetite within about 15 days. Does anyone have experience with it? Out of all the antidepressants I've tried, only Faverin caused me issues and felt terrible; others, like Cipralex or Zoloft, were just mediocre. Right now, I am feeling quite unwell, having lost a significant amount of weight...

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