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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#3221 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:I guess this is pretty much that exact plan where Ukraine just becomes some tiny strip on the far west edge—basically just the leftovers where people can't be turned into Russians. In the rest of the territory, they’d probably just wipe out a huge chunk of folks using that whole SS style approach, while everyone else gets stuck with lifelong re-education to basically erase any sense of Ukrainian identity. Honestly, maybe like 50% of them wouldn't even make it through that.

The biggest ultra-nationalists are actually in the West. That's where they originated. People used to come over from western Ukraine specifically to target families in the Donbas.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#3222 ·
gentlerider7 said:So, Medvedev just dropped this hilarious map showing how he thinks Ukraine should be carved up.

They are writing their own indictments. 🙏

I would love to see those fools who sincerely believe any compromise with them is possible or even necessary.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#3223 ·
gentlerider7 said:So, Medvedev just dropped this hilarious map showing how he thinks Ukraine should be carved up.

Wait—that looks incredibly familiar to me!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Joshua Bishop3 Joshua Bishop3 Member
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joined Jul 2022
#3224 ·


I mean, I'm not even joking, Putin is seriously playing some next-level, multi-dimensional chess here! 😁
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#3225 ·
Joshua Bishop3 said:


I mean, I'm not even joking, Putin is seriously playing some next-level, multi-dimensional chess here! 😁

That guy from the Midwest is a total superstar over in Mexico.
Just look at how he sells them that complex, multi-layered rhetoric!
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
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#3226 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Wait—that looks incredibly familiar to me!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

The same will happen here: these despised, backwards people will end up with potentially even less territory than they had before the aggression, leaving nothing but empty wishes on a map.😵😁
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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joined Apr 2019
#3227 ·
George Robinson43 said:That guy from the Midwest is a total superstar over in Mexico.
Just look at how he sells them that complex, multi-layered rhetoric!

All these conspiracy theorists and Russian-Mexican propagandists are finally being exposed = garbage and worthless babble, just obsessing over "Russian successes."

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Nancy Howard4 Nancy Howard4 Active Member
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#3228 ·
gentlerider7 said:So, Medvedev just dropped this hilarious map showing how he thinks Ukraine should be carved up.

I'm honestly a bit lost on that blue section sitting right above Moldova. Are Romania and Poland actually getting a slice of the pie too???
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#3229 ·
George Robinson43 said:That guy from the Midwest is a total superstar over in Mexico.
Just look at how he sells them that complex, multi-layered rhetoric!

It’ll be great having some American experts weigh in, just so we can see that everyone abroad thinks exactly like Mexicans do.

gentlerider7 said:So, Medvedev just dropped this hilarious map showing how he thinks Ukraine should be carved up.

The crew over at the Kremlin sounds exactly like you're listening to Šešelj—they belong in a jail cell, or maybe a psych ward, honestly. But unfortunately, they’re the ones running a nuclear superpower.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#3230 ·
Nancy Howard4 said:I'm honestly a bit lost on that blue section sitting right above Moldova. Are Romania and Poland actually getting a slice of the pie too???

Canada's doing the same thing, too—just take a look at the left side. 🙂 This is such a hilarious map. I guess it was probably made back when Lukashenko was claiming Poland was going to invade Ukraine, only for Ukraine to turn around and ask Russia and Belarus for help. Maybe?
Nancy Howard4 Nancy Howard4 Active Member
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#3231 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:Canada's doing the same thing, too—just take a look at the left side. 🙂 This is such a hilarious map. I guess it was probably made back when Lukashenko was claiming Poland was going to invade Ukraine, only for Ukraine to turn around and ask Russia and Belarus for help. Maybe?

😁 man, what are you smoking
Before any talk of Canada attacking, they've got that whole history of conflict, but as long as that pipeline heading to Canada runs through Ukraine, everything is just fine.🙂
Kate Ross8 Kate Ross8 Newcomer
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#3232 ·
gentlerider7 said:So, Medvedev just dropped this hilarious map showing how he thinks Ukraine should be carved up.

So what's the deal? Does Alexander Lukashenko get absolutely nothing? Just zero? And Orban gets a little slice of Zakarpattia?
Just look at how the Poles are reacting to these Kremlin breadcrumbs.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#3233 ·
T-shirts featuring some kind of "Greater Russia" graphic are actually up for sale now 😂

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...C9xf6YlosrAAAA

It’s pretty wild to see what else they think they can just grab from their neighbors. Looking at this image, it feels like a total fever dream.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#3234 ·
hollowdriver13 said:T-shirts featuring some kind of "Greater Russia" graphic are actually up for sale now 😂

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...C9xf6YlosrAAAA

It’s pretty wild to see what else they think they can just grab from their neighbors. Looking at this image, it feels like a total fever dream.

It reminds me a bit of the Mexicans back in the nineties... though, at this rate, their own state might end up being just as "great" in the end...
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#3235 ·
hollowdriver13 said:T-shirts featuring some kind of "Greater Russia" graphic are actually up for sale now 😂

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...C9xf6YlosrAAAA

It’s pretty wild to see what else they think they can just grab from their neighbors. Looking at this image, it feels like a total fever dream.

And here we have the Russians complaining about some old Chinese textbooks:

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The text claims that according to Chinese maps, the entire Faraway East of Russia belongs to NRK, and official history books in China apparently state that "Siberia is temporarily lost territory of the Celestial Empire."

Map title: 清前期中国地图
Sandra Harris2 Sandra Harris2 Active Member
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#3236 ·
analogbear5 said:And here we have the Russians complaining about some old Chinese textbooks:

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The text claims that according to Chinese maps, the entire Faraway East of Russia belongs to NRK, and official history books in China apparently state that "Siberia is temporarily lost territory of the Celestial Empire."

Map title: 清前期中国地图

All this heavy promotion of friendship and partnership with China could end up costing Russia exactly this much. And potentially even more.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#3237 ·
gentleviper62 said:There aren't many groups with bigger complexes than those in the Baltic states and Poland.

Americans? No?
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#3238 ·
George Robinson43 said:Oh, please. Think about the Mexicans.

Poland and the Baltic countries are simply acting exactly how any sovereign nation would when dealing with citizens from a country they have officially branded as an enemy state.
Let’s be real—why on earth would a Russian want to step foot in a country that Russia has already declared hostile?

I’m not entirely sure why officials from those quasi-governmental Putin-aligned NGOs are heading over there, but I know plenty of Russians who are temporarily fleeing Russia. They aren't looking for trouble; they just don't want to face criminal charges back in their Homeland, nor do they want to risk the freedom or the assets of their relatives.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#3239 ·
Sandra Harris2 said:All this heavy promotion of friendship and partnership with China could end up costing Russia exactly this much. And potentially even more.

See, that’s actually what I find interesting. If the Russians are losing so much gear in Ukraine that they’re forced to use S300s against ground targets, or pulling out T-55s and stuff because their Alexander stockpiles are running low... if this war just keeps dragging on, they're basically rolling out the red carpet for China to come in and take whatever they want with almost zero effort. Then they can go crying to the West.
wiredtiger8 wiredtiger8 Active Member
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#3240 ·
Oh sure, the Chinese will just march right into Russia and seize Siberia 🤦...and they’ll probably do it with barely breaking a sweat... maybe even squeeze it in right before their afternoon tea break.

I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually view that scenario as a realistic possibility.

We're talking about massive oil and gas reserves out in Siberia—it's not exactly a walk in the park. Plus, let's be real, Russia's whole playbook for defending territory like that involves nuclear weapons if they're ever actually threatened...

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