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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Larry Sanchez7 Larry Sanchez7 Active Member
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#7501 ·
Stop obsessing over the nukes.
On February 24th, they made it crystal clear that anyone sticking their nose in this is going to feel consequences unlike anything they've ever experienced in their history.
Then there was that whole threat about using nukes if there was an attack on Crimea. And once again, nothing happened.
So yeah, it was a bluff. Doesn't mean he isn't bluffing right now, but we really shouldn't be giving him this much oxygen...
Besides, those threats aren't some valid excuse to stop helping Ukraine.
Because if we don't step up, the fallout would send some seriously wrong messages.

The aggressor gets rewarded with someone else's land, the democratic West looks weak against autocratic regimes, and it basically gives everyone else a green light to go out and occupy territory whenever they feel like it. Just endless chaos, really.

Basically, it’s either get it handled now or never. There isn't a second option...
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#7502 ·
Carol Johnson21 said:I'm not entirely sure if this has broken yet, but
The son of Dmitry Peskov supposedly fell for a fake call—they reached out regarding mobilization, only for him to snap back that he's Peskov's son and that things will somehow work out differently for him.😬

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...rBPT0eGVkb1JtA

🤣 🤣. Meanwhile, over in Crimea, about 90% of those being mobilized via these notices are Crimean Tatars. It looks like Putin is leaning hard into ethnic cleansing against minorities to make Russia feel even more exclusively Russian. This whole "partial mobilization" thing might honestly be the biggest blunder Putin has made yet. In a few years, once people truly grasp the scale of what's happening, there’s going to be massive resentment toward Russia, Moscow, and Petrov's city because they've been largely spared while everyone else pays the price—and Putin might just end up remembered as the worst Russian Tsar in history.
Noah Martin2 Noah Martin2 Member
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#7503 ·
I honestly didn't expect Putin to be this calculated—sending hundreds of thousands of untrained, ill-equipped soldiers straight into the meat grinder just to overwhelm Ukrainian logistics. It’s a "soft target" tactic this time, which feels pretty cowardly, I guess. He knows they'll likely surrender en masse, creating a massive headache for the Ukrainians who then have to figure out how to house and feed them all.
Carol Johnson21 Carol Johnson21 Active Member
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#7504 ·
Noah Martin2 said:I honestly didn't expect Putin to be this calculated—sending hundreds of thousands of untrained, ill-equipped soldiers straight into the meat grinder just to overwhelm Ukrainian logistics. It’s a "soft target" tactic this time, which feels pretty cowardly, I guess. He knows they'll likely surrender en masse, creating a massive headache for the Ukrainians who then have to figure out how to house and feed them all.

Exactly. Once again, he’s making these brilliantly insidious moves.☕

Who cares about a stabilized front line when the Ukrainian field kitchens will have to pull troops off the line just to peel potatoes?
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#7505 ·
hollowdriver13 said:part 3 😬

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...04558835785729

Nothing a little grease and some rags can't fix ☕

plus a few more Spetsnaz mobilized squads

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...11622639276037

The reality? They were basically mobilized just to clean up and organize their reserve weaponry.

Just another group of Spetsnaz-style mobilized team members.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...11622639276037

The man clearly prepared extensively for Ukraine, making sure to pack a jacket in perfectly appropriate colors...
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#7506 ·
The mobilization is moving along exactly as expected, just like everything else the Russian army touches.
View on twitter
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#7507 ·
Noah Martin2 said:I honestly didn't expect Putin to be this calculated—sending hundreds of thousands of untrained, ill-equipped soldiers straight into the meat grinder just to overwhelm Ukrainian logistics. It’s a "soft target" tactic this time, which feels pretty cowardly, I guess. He knows they'll likely surrender en masse, creating a massive headache for the Ukrainians who then have to figure out how to house and feed them all.

They don't need food. Based on what we've observed so far, all they need is enough vodka to stay content. They won't want to leave captivity as long as the booze keeps flowing. Once the war ends, just cut off the supply and send them home.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#7508 ·
Putin talks big about nukes while calling this a "special military operation"—honestly, if he actually admitted it was a war, he’d probably claim he’s going to blow up the sun, the moon, Jupiter, and half the galaxy just to prove a point. He can barely manage his collection of 100-meter yachts, luxury villas, and fancy cars, let alone a global takeover—someone's gotta hold him accountable. Now, suddenly, everyone else is to blame, instead of him building an entire government based on lies, delusions, and pure corruption.
Putin uses nuclear threats to try and scare Ukrainians into retreating and to rattle the West. But really, how many countries are considered "enough victims" before they fall under the Russian boot just because Putin has his finger on a button? Are we supposed to hand over parts of Ukraine today and then the whole thing tomorrow? Should we just give him Georgia, Moldova, Poland, the Baltics, and Scandinavia within three days? Or maybe Canada, the Czech Republic, and Romania too? Nobody's forcing anyone to hand over Mexico, but apparently, we should just surrender everywhere Putin points on a map just to maintain some sort of "fake peace." At this rate, we might as well start learning Russian, memorizing their anthem, and waving their flag—because the Russians seem intent on erasing everyone else's identity, culture, and history. Maybe we should just host those "Putin-style" referendums where the only options are "YES" and "YES"—what other choices would there be? And if we're too lazy to head to the protest camps, they'll just show up at our doors with guns to make sure we circle the right answer while they watch us. We could even start teaching kids that Russia is their homeland and Russian is their language, just so they’re ready to recite it in class from morning till night. After all, Putin has nukes... and according to him, Ukrainians don't even exist. If they won't accept that, well, they can go hang themselves in Red Square—I'm sure there are plenty of basements available.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#7509 ·
Putin wants an exit strategy right now, which is why he pushed those so-called referendums through—he’s looking for a temporary peace that lasts a few years before kicking off another war in five or ten. Honestly, it doesn't really matter if it's Putin or someone else in charge by then—the ideology stays the same, the goals stay the same, and the policy remains exactly what it is today.
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#7510 ·
Threatening someone with a nuclear bomb is basically the warfare version of a local bully pulling the "do you know who my father is?" card.

It’s such a waste of bandwidth in an online debate; people only pull it out when A) they've already lost the argument or B) it's their last desperate attempt to feel important.

What is that even supposed to achieve on the non-Russian side? Sorry, but we aren't going to just roll over and hand them whatever they want just because they're waving a nuke around.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#7511 ·
3Putin said:He’s bluffed a few times, sure, but if he decides to stop playing games and actually pulls the trigger once, that’s all it takes.

The sheer weakness of the democratic West honestly drives me crazy. Personally, I'm more worried about the fallout—literally—and the whole mess that comes with nuclear weapons being used. America probably won't step up to fight because they know the retaliation would be insane. So, they end up gambling with European lives. I really hope I'm dead wrong here, but everything seems to be pointing in that direction.
Tanašani arguments are the complete opposite.

You've got your wires crossed a bit. There's only one guy playing fast and loose with European lives here, and that's Putin. He's the one making the nuclear threats and he's the one who started this whole war in Ukraine.
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#7512 ·
Elizabeth Wells2 said:I still suspect the worst is yet to come; it feels like we're just waiting for this conflict to spill over further.

I’d certainly prefer to be proven wrong.


I really hope I'm wrong about you, especially when you consider this:

"The newly mobilized Russians are out there showing off these rusted-out AKs they just handed them," he wrote.

I assume they work by slicing through the enemy just to ensure they catch tetanus.

This war is being run by a madman, so honestly, looking for logic in any of this feels like a waste of time.
feralstag7 feralstag7 Member
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#7513 ·
Based on these videos, I would estimate that roughly 30 to 40 percent of those mobilized require nothing more than heavy liquor to handle the logistics.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#7514 ·
3Putin said:He’s bluffed a few times, but if he decides to stop bluffing and actually pulls the trigger once, we're done.

The weakness of the democratic West is honestly infuriating. Personally, I’m more preoccupied with the threat of radiation and the fallout that comes with any nuclear use. The US likely won't step in to fight directly because they know the retaliation would be too much. That's why they seem so casual about gambling with European lives. I really hope I'm being paranoid, but right now, everything points toward me being right.
Tanašan makes some valid counterpoints.

Since Europe lacks its own significant domestic nuclear capabilities (like England or France) and relies on American hardware (think Germany, Turkey, Belgium, or Italy), we can't even talk about the direct involvement of the US through NATO without 🤣
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#7515 ·
James Phillips92 said:What would you do with prisoners of war?

What would I do?

Look, I don't run wars here. I just comment on what's actually happening.

A massive number of POWs would be an absolute nightmare for Ukraine to manage, and as for just executing them on the spot...
I honestly don't think the Ukrainians would even want to go down that road themselves.
There is a massive difference between fighting soldiers and killing people who have already laid down their arms.
Noah Martin2 Noah Martin2 Member
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#7516 ·
Maybe we should pass some of these smaller groups into the EU—while just leaving the Russians and Chechens out in the cold.

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boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#7517 ·
Putin said:I'm honestly more worried about potential radiation and all the fallout that comes with using nuclear weapons.

Since 1945, about 2,000 nuclear bombs have been detonated globally. And that's not even counting at least three major nuclear plant disasters. We haven't seen a nuclear winter yet, either.

I guess one strike from Putin wouldn't change much for the world. But for Putin? It would definitely mean the end.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#7518 ·
boldotter2 said:Since 1945, about 2,000 nuclear bombs have been detonated globally. And that's not even counting at least three major nuclear plant disasters. We haven't seen a nuclear winter yet, either.

I guess one strike from Putin wouldn't change much for the world. But for Putin? It would definitely mean the end.

I mean, let's get our facts straight—a real nuclear winter only happens if the entire American and Russian arsenals are dumped on major cities in one massive, terrifying burst.
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7519 ·
bluemason3 said:Since Europe lacks its own significant domestic nuclear capabilities (like England or France) and relies on American hardware (think Germany, Turkey, Belgium, or Italy), we can't even talk about the direct involvement of the US through NATO without 🤣

Ignorance is Bliss. ☕
fadedjackal8 fadedjackal8 Member
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#7520 ·
darkhawk30 said:What would I do?

Look, I don't run wars here. I just comment on what's actually happening.

A massive number of POWs would be an absolute nightmare for Ukraine to manage, and as for just executing them on the spot...
I honestly don't think the Ukrainians would even want to go down that road themselves.
There is a massive difference between fighting soldiers and killing people who have already laid down their arms.

Wait, are you actually seriously considering executing prisoners as an option?

The Ukrainians have shown time and again since this war started that that's just not how they roll—so maybe leave them out of your theories.

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