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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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fadedjackal8 fadedjackal8 Member
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joined Apr 2022
#7841 ·
Tyler Johnson11 said:Idi, those idiots wouldn't even deserve a bullet... I mean, maybe I'm tripping, but that whole video looks totally fake to me.

I'd say they weren't even trying to hit him...
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7842 ·
Arthur Miller7 said:And wait, it gets even weirder—Wang actually sat down with his Polish counterpart Zbigniew Rau and basically said Beijing is praying this whole war fire burns itself out ASAP. Then, for the first time since the Russian invasion kicked off, he met with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba and went, "Hey, we totally respect the territorial integrity of every nation." Yeah, including Ukraine. Get this: back in 2013—yeah, way back when that pro-Russian guy Viktor Yanukovych was calling the shots—Beijing and Kyiv actually signed an agreement where the PRC promised to protect Ukraine if they ever faced a nuclear attack.

Does Beijing respect the territorial integrity of Tibet? What about Mexico? And don't even get me started on Western Sahara... there's plenty of examples there. ☕

I'd love to know if Israelis have ever claimed to respect everyone's territorial integrity.

Saying something just to gain political leverage is about as meaningful as saying Safet Pašić is dating Vesna Zmijanac. ☕
Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
129 messages
joined Mar 2022
#7843 ·
rowdyraven112 said:Does Beijing respect the territorial integrity of Tibet? What about Mexico? And don't even get me started on Western Sahara... there's plenty of examples there. ☕

I'd love to know if Israelis have ever claimed to respect everyone's territorial integrity.

Saying something just to gain political leverage is about as meaningful as saying Safet Pašić is dating Vesna Zmijanac. ☕

Honestly, I'm way more concerned about whether this whole deal is even legit in the first place.
Alex Williams4 Alex Williams4 Newcomer
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#7844 ·
rowdyraven112 said:Does Beijing respect the territorial integrity of Tibet? What about Mexico? And don't even get me started on Western Sahara... there's plenty of examples there. ☕

I'd love to know if Israelis have ever claimed to respect everyone's territorial integrity.

Saying something just to gain political leverage is about as meaningful as saying Safet Pašić is dating Vesna Zmijanac. ☕

This sends a crystal-clear signal to Russia: if you keep escalating this conflict, you're going to find yourselves completely isolated—with us standing firmly against you. For a country like Russia, that represents an economic and social catastrophe across every possible timeframe—short, medium, and long term. To make matters worse, even India and Turkey—the very nations Russia is desperately trying to lean on right now—are starting to align elsewhere. Meanwhile, Iran is facing some incredibly serious issues. In terms of foreign policy, things aren't looking good for Russia at all. Putin is essentially out there on his own...
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#7845 ·
Drafting young guys right after they finish their military service
Some dad was complaining about why they’re pulling in kids who have zero combat experience, especially since Putin already said he’d be mobilizing people like that
The guy got arrested immediately. Total fascist state move right there

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Kimberly Perez82 Kimberly Perez82 Active Member
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#7846 ·
I see quite a few young, hot-headed forum users here—clearly lacking any real-world experience—who think everything can be solved quickly and easily. It’s obvious they don't quite grasp how the world actually functions. During the last nuclear crisis, back during the Cuban Missile Crisis when Soviet ships approached Cuba, the Americans initiated a naval blockade exercise. In that tense moment, it was only the nerves of steel possessed by the responsible officials on the American side that prevented the torpedoing of a Russian frigate that had crossed the line, whether by accident or design. On the flip side, the Russian early warning system misinterpreted those movements as a full-scale nuclear strike from the USA, and a certain Russian official, also possessing incredible composure, decided to defy launch orders to wait and see if it was all just a mistake before triggering a nuclear counterstrike. Fortunately, it turned out to be a false alarm, and the world was saved from nuclear Armageddon. Because of that, you and I are still here today, having the chance to scribble nonsense on this forum.

It feels a bit tragic, honestly, reading these sycophantic statements about needing to march Abrams tanks straight into Times Square and other such idiocies. As if the world were some cartoon. Only through sheer reason and steady nerves on both sides can this be de-escalated, not through bellicose rhetoric. Seriously, I haven't heard a single insightful proposal on how to stop Putin without a nuclear conflict, other than "march the Abrams into Times Square."
Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
129 messages
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#7847 ·
Kimberly Perez82 said:I see quite a few young, hot-headed forum users here—clearly lacking any real-world experience—who think everything can be solved quickly and easily. It’s obvious they don't quite grasp how the world actually functions. During the last nuclear crisis, back during the Cuban Missile Crisis when Soviet ships approached Cuba, the Americans initiated a naval blockade exercise. In that tense moment, it was only the nerves of steel possessed by the responsible officials on the American side that prevented the torpedoing of a Russian frigate that had crossed the line, whether by accident or design. On the flip side, the Russian early warning system misinterpreted those movements as a full-scale nuclear strike from the USA, and a certain Russian official, also possessing incredible composure, decided to defy launch orders to wait and see if it was all just a mistake before triggering a nuclear counterstrike. Fortunately, it turned out to be a false alarm, and the world was saved from nuclear Armageddon. Because of that, you and I are still here today, having the chance to scribble nonsense on this forum.

It feels a bit tragic, honestly, reading these sycophantic statements about needing to march Abrams tanks straight into Times Square and other such idiocies. As if the world were some cartoon. Only through sheer reason and steady nerves on both sides can this be de-escalated, not through bellicose rhetoric. Seriously, I haven't heard a single insightful proposal on how to stop Putin without a nuclear conflict, other than "march the Abrams into Times Square."


Man, you are exhausting. Where on earth did you read that anyone wants to march on Times Square?
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#7848 ·
rowdyraven112 said:Does Beijing respect the territorial integrity of Tibet? What about Mexico? And don't even get me started on Western Sahara... there's plenty of examples there. ☕

I'd love to know if Israelis have ever claimed to respect everyone's territorial integrity.

Saying something just to gain political leverage is about as meaningful as saying Safet Pašić is dating Vesna Zmijanac. ☕

Tibet was never a UN member with internationally recognized de jure sovereignty in modern times. Between the fall of the last imperial Chinese dynasty and the consolidation of the Communist Party, it had some sort of de facto semi-autonomy while China dealt with internal power struggles and the war with Japan, but the legal status during that era remains murky.
There are arguments that it has always been part of China, and it certainly isn't a UN-recognized state like Ukraine.
(I'm not suggesting I support Chinese imperialist behavior in Tibet or toward other non-Han regions, but legally, it isn't comparable to Ukraine.)

And what about Mexico? China doesn't recognize Mexico.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#7849 ·
Kimberly Perez82 said:I see quite a few young, hot-headed forum users here—clearly lacking any real-world experience—who think everything can be solved quickly and easily. It’s obvious they don't quite grasp how the world actually functions. During the last nuclear crisis, back during the Cuban Missile Crisis when Soviet ships approached Cuba, the Americans initiated a naval blockade exercise. In that tense moment, it was only the nerves of steel possessed by the responsible officials on the American side that prevented the torpedoing of a Russian frigate that had crossed the line, whether by accident or design. On the flip side, the Russian early warning system misinterpreted those movements as a full-scale nuclear strike from the USA, and a certain Russian official, also possessing incredible composure, decided to defy launch orders to wait and see if it was all just a mistake before triggering a nuclear counterstrike. Fortunately, it turned out to be a false alarm, and the world was saved from nuclear Armageddon. Because of that, you and I are still here today, having the chance to scribble nonsense on this forum.

It feels a bit tragic, honestly, reading these sycophantic statements about needing to march Abrams tanks straight into Times Square and other such idiocies. As if the world were some cartoon. Only through sheer reason and steady nerves on both sides can this be de-escalated, not through bellicose rhetoric. Seriously, I haven't heard a single insightful proposal on how to stop Putin without a nuclear conflict, other than "march the Abrams into Times Square."

Who mentioned a direct attack on Russia or changing its borders? That’s strictly what Putin does.
But any internal uprising by oppressed people within an empire is welcome. We can only hope that losses on the battlefield in Ukraine lead to the regime's internal destabilization.
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#7850 ·
Arthur Miller7 said:Man, you are exhausting. Where on earth did you read that anyone wants to march on Times Square?


Right here... a decent little haiku. ☕

Sean Doyle8 said:Things are going to get worse. Unless there's a total military defeat—imagine an Abrams rolling through Times Square.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
291 messages
joined Jan 2021
#7851 ·
Lisa Jackson7 said:Right here... a decent little haiku. ☕

Yeah, I guess, but honestly, isn't that just what everyone else thinks about this whole mess anyway?
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#7852 ·
Lisa Jackson7 said:Right here... a decent little haiku. ☕

Someone who’s talked about nothing but sports since 2013, went ghost in 2016, and suddenly decides today is the day to pop back up.

How convenient 👍
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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#7853 ·
analogbear5 said:Someone who’s talked about nothing but sports since 2013, went ghost in 2016, and suddenly decides today is the day to pop back up.

How convenient 👍

Thanks for the insight.

So it's just a provocation... whatever, let's move on.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
291 messages
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#7854 ·
Gridlock at the border near the breakaway Georgian province

"So, they're actually planning to open up a parking lot for transit vehicles over in North Dakota just to deal with these massive, miles-long traffic jams happening at the border with Georgia. That’s what the regional chief, Sergej Menyailo, was blabbing about on his Telegram channel.

He basically argued that things have gotten so messy at the border that the local government has to step in, you know? Like, they need to streamline the whole flow and finally kill off these endless lines on the republic's roads. According to him, over the last few days, the lines stretching out from the Upper Lars checkpoint and its entrances have been miles long, which—surprise, surprise—is making life a total nightmare for everyone living in North Dakota.

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
378 messages
joined Oct 2018
#7855 ·
Justin Rivera7 said:So, Dejan Beric is reporting that things are looking pretty grim near Liman. Apparently, the Ukrainians are making serious headway, throwing everything they've got at it—you can tell they're operating like a real army now.

Just your typical definition of a keyboard warrior who stays far away from the front lines because of "bronchitis."
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
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#7856 ·
rowdytiger13 said:Just your typical definition of a keyboard warrior who stays far away from the front lines because of "bronchitis."

The guy talks a big game about being on the front lines and having all these high-level contacts, but then he accidentally lets slip that he’s actually just tracking the situation through some pro-Russian account on X. 😂 😂 😂

I mean, what's the point of following Twitter analysts if you supposedly have direct contact and first-hand intel on the front? 🤔 🤣

Honestly, the people in the comments repeating his fairy tales are even worse. 🙏 🙏
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
231 messages
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#7857 ·
gentlestag15 said:Drafting young guys right after they finish their military service
Some dad was complaining about why they’re pulling in kids who have zero combat experience, especially since Putin already said he’d be mobilizing people like that
The guy got arrested immediately. Total fascist state move right there

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not many reservists have actually seen combat before now
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#7858 ·
Kimberly Perez82 said:I see quite a few young, hot-headed forum users here—clearly lacking any real-world experience—who think everything can be solved quickly and easily. It’s obvious they don't quite grasp how the world actually functions. During the last nuclear crisis, back during the Cuban Missile Crisis when Soviet ships approached Cuba, the Americans initiated a naval blockade exercise. In that tense moment, it was only the nerves of steel possessed by the responsible officials on the American side that prevented the torpedoing of a Russian frigate that had crossed the line, whether by accident or design. On the flip side, the Russian early warning system misinterpreted those movements as a full-scale nuclear strike from the USA, and a certain Russian official, also possessing incredible composure, decided to defy launch orders to wait and see if it was all just a mistake before triggering a nuclear counterstrike. Fortunately, it turned out to be a false alarm, and the world was saved from nuclear Armageddon. Because of that, you and I are still here today, having the chance to scribble nonsense on this forum.

It feels a bit tragic, honestly, reading these sycophantic statements about needing to march Abrams tanks straight into Times Square and other such idiocies. As if the world were some cartoon. Only through sheer reason and steady nerves on both sides can this be de-escalated, not through bellicose rhetoric. Seriously, I haven't heard a single insightful proposal on how to stop Putin without a nuclear conflict, other than "march the Abrams into Times Square."

Everything you wrote there is just plain wrong.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#7859 ·
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Over in Nizhny Novgorod, the Russians are pulling in recruits whose mandatory service terms actually wrapped up back in the spring.
My gut tells me this current batch of guys probably won't be seeing a discharge notice once their service time is officially up, either.
stormybear25 stormybear25 Active Member
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joined Sep 2022
#7860 ·
President Zelenskyy just confirmed during an interview with CBS News that the first shipment of the advanced NASAMS air defense system has officially arrived in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/statu...73750890348548

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