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nimblerider21 nimblerider21 Newcomer
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#2561 ·
Sos about those "medications"—does smoking actually calm you down, does coffee really wake you up, or is there some kind of natural potential already built into our bodies
? It’s the same old debate with meds; at the end of the day, they’re just drugs and they aren't a permanent fix
. Honestly, am I the only one out here advocating for this perspective
? I mean, sure, maybe becoming a total zombie is an easy way to go, but it’s definitely easier to
just settle for that
. all we need is love
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#2562 ·
There’s just no logic to it, really. Once you make a massive blunder like I did and your only mission is to go out and announce to everyone that you've lost your mind, you actually end up losing it for real.
I told my doctor:
Look, I have some perspective now, and I honestly think I would know how to handle myself if something like this ever happened again.
But she just says: no, you wouldn't.
Apparently, it's something more powerful than my own willpower, and that I'm going to need medication to get through it.
So, I just headed off to bed; I need to be able to hold it together at work tomorrow. 🙂
nimblerider21 nimblerider21 Newcomer
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#2563 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:There’s just no logic to it, really. Once you make a massive blunder like I did and your only mission is to go out and announce to everyone that you've lost your mind, you actually end up losing it for real.
I told my doctor:
Look, I have some perspective now, and I honestly think I would know how to handle myself if something like this ever happened again.
But she just says: no, you wouldn't.
Apparently, it's something more powerful than my own willpower, and that I'm going to need medication to get through it.
So, I just headed off to bed; I need to be able to hold it together at work tomorrow. 🙂

😕

Look, I’ll step into the role of a psychic for a second here just so I can analyze your life path;
don't go holding your stepmother against her for hitting you (forgive HER)
if you're trying to wrap your head around why things went down the way they did
(not that it matters) because, honestly, people are just flawed and messy
and you aren't some god—it wasn't a trigger or anything else,
like a car crash or something crazy like that.
Just be honest with yourself and admit that you’ve
really been through the wringer, that you're sensitive,
damn intelligent, and try to take those qualities of yours
and actually use them to find a career that
you genuinely love and where you can actually
stick around for the long haul. And at the end of the day, yeah, the pills
might help, but believe me when I say there’s
a better way—I swear to God it's hard to
achieve, but the payoff is so much greater...
just do what you love, take a breather—you've earned it,
love yourself, love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
seriously, that is the most important part
because all that self-hatred is exactly why you
fell off the wagon, you know?
you're a good person....

p.s. that director is an idiot
or maybe just a coward
what you wrote here is a total masterpiece
maybe give it a shot with some Hollywood directors

MENTAL WARRIORS!!!

p.s.s -> it isn't bigger than you

love, faith, courage, laughter, and letting go😂
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2564 ·
nimblerider21 said:😕

Look, I’ll step into the role of a psychic for a second here just so I can analyze your life path;
don't go holding your stepmother against her for hitting you (forgive HER)
if you're trying to wrap your head around why things went down the way they did
(not that it matters) because, honestly, people are just flawed and messy
and you aren't some god—it wasn't a trigger or anything else,
like a car crash or something crazy like that.
Just be honest with yourself and admit that you’ve
really been through the wringer, that you're sensitive,
damn intelligent, and try to take those qualities of yours
and actually use them to find a career that
you genuinely love and where you can actually
stick around for the long haul. And at the end of the day, yeah, the pills
might help, but believe me when I say there’s
a better way—I swear to God it's hard to
achieve, but the payoff is so much greater...
just do what you love, take a breather—you've earned it,
love yourself, love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
love yourself
seriously, that is the most important part
because all that self-hatred is exactly why you
fell off the wagon, you know?
you're a good person....

p.s. that director is an idiot
or maybe just a coward
what you wrote here is a total masterpiece
maybe give it a shot with some Hollywood directors

MENTAL WARRIORS!!!

p.s.s -> it isn't bigger than you

love, faith, courage, laughter, and letting go😂

Honestly, nothing about my stepmother’s life has ever been rosy, regardless of how much she insists she’s a great parent—and my dad seems to share that same delusion.
Louise L. Hay 👍
Thanks for thinking the blog is some kind of masterpiece 😉
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#2565 ·
To those of you currently prescribed Olanzapine, I wonder if this link might be of some interest to you?
nimblerider21 nimblerider21 Newcomer
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#2566 ·
🙂☕🙂
I just finished watching A Beautiful Mind
and honestly, what can I even say? It feels like life is just better when you aren't relying on heavy meds
those auditory, visual, or even smell-based hallucinations... you really just have to learn how to look right through them
and just ignore them entirely
it's kind of like being stuck in a One Fleeting Flea's Nest
all those people portrayed in the movie are actually quite wonderful deep down
they’re just terrified to step out into the world because they truly believe these treatments are helping them
but then again, look at how the Joker ended up...
some people turn to substances just to chase that high
to experience those hallucinations, which clearly seems to be something modern society is lacking
because if you look closely, we’re all basically living in our own version of a Flea's Nest
we all act "normal" on the surface, but the only real difference is
that most of us are just walking around scared and lacking any real self-confidence
And sure, doctors will tell you that meds, or insulin therapies, or even things like shock therapy
electricity, or surgical procedures to remove parts of the brain... will fix it
But listen, brothers and sisters, it is high time you all woke up and came to your senses
NOBODY TRULY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE A HUMAN BEING UNLESS YOU TELL THEM YOUR STORY
and let me tell you, no one is going to help you more than you can help yourself

MENTAL WARRIORS🙂
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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joined May 2023
#2567 ·
nimblerider21 said:🙂☕🙂
I just finished watching A Beautiful Mind
and honestly, what can I even say? It feels like life is just better when you aren't relying on heavy meds
those auditory, visual, or even smell-based hallucinations... you really just have to learn how to look right through them
and just ignore them entirely
it's kind of like being stuck in a One Fleeting Flea's Nest
all those people portrayed in the movie are actually quite wonderful deep down
they’re just terrified to step out into the world because they truly believe these treatments are helping them
but then again, look at how the Joker ended up...
some people turn to substances just to chase that high
to experience those hallucinations, which clearly seems to be something modern society is lacking
because if you look closely, we’re all basically living in our own version of a Flea's Nest
we all act "normal" on the surface, but the only real difference is
that most of us are just walking around scared and lacking any real self-confidence
And sure, doctors will tell you that meds, or insulin therapies, or even things like shock therapy
electricity, or surgical procedures to remove parts of the brain... will fix it
But listen, brothers and sisters, it is high time you all woke up and came to your senses
NOBODY TRULY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE A HUMAN BEING UNLESS YOU TELL THEM YOUR STORY
and let me tell you, no one is going to help you more than you can help yourself

MENTAL WARRIORS🙂

It isn't just about hallucinations; those are really just one piece of a much larger puzzle. I find it honestly fascinating how a single medication can target several different symptoms that don't even seem related on the surface.
Even if you were to walk into a psychiatric ward, you'd notice that most patients actually seem quite composed. You might see some people acting a bit sluggish because of their meds, or maybe someone looking a little anxious, but for the most part, everyone seems relatively normal. Of course, we have no way of truly knowing what's going on inside their heads...
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2568 ·
nimblerider21 As I was saying—and I do mean *as I was saying*, because my train of thought tends to derail if I don't stay focused—it seems like...
And yet—and here we go again—it still remains...s o "The whole damn business of medications—it’s enough to make anyone lose their mind, isn't it? I mean, really think about it for a second. We live in this era where we just expect a little pill to fix everything, as if our brains were nothing more than faulty circuit boards that just need a quick solder here or there. It’s all so clinical, so detached from the actual, messy reality of being human. I was reading some papers the other day—don't ask me why, I have far too much free time on my hands—and it struck me how much we rely on these chemical interventions to navigate what should be simple existence. You take one thing for the mood, another for the sleep, another because the doctor at the Mayo Clinic thinks you look a bit too jittery... it becomes a full-time job just managing the side effects of the things meant to "help" you. It's a cycle. A weary, endless loop of adjusting dosages and praying the tremors don't kick in before your morning coffee. Honestly, it feels less like medicine and more like an attempt to chemically mask the sheer absurdity of modern life.Does smoking actually calm the nerves—really? Or is it just that caffeine kick from a morning cup of Starbucks that jolts you awake—or perhaps we’re all just looking for those latent, natural biological potentials already buried deep within our own bodies? It’s an old conundrum, isn't it? I often find myself sitting there, staring at the steam rising from my mug, wondering if we are merely chasing chemical illusions to mask the sheer exhaustion of modern existence. We lean on these crutches—the nicotine, the caffeine—as if they were some sort of external battery pack for a soul that’s running on empty. But then again, there's that nagging thought—that maybe the mechanism for alertness, or even peace, is already hardwired into our physiology, just waiting for the right stimulus to trigger it. It's a bit of a philosophical rabbit hole, if you ask me.
It’s the same old story when it comes to medication—it’s all just drugs, plain and simple—and they certainly aren't some kind of magic bullet or a permanent fix for anything.
Well... am I really the only one sitting here actually advocating for this? It feels like I’m shouting into a void—or perhaps just a very crowded, very indifferent room. Honestly, sometimes I wonder if I’m the sole holdout left in this entire country.
Maybe—just maybe—we’re looking at some sort of zombie solution here... if you can even call it that. It’s all a bit grim, isn't it? Honestly, I’ve seen enough of these cycles to know that when things start feeling this hollow, we're usually just circling the drain.I suppose I should start by saying that I am quite lost—utterly adrift, really—given the sheer lack of context provided here. It’s a bit like walking into a high-stakes meeting at a firm in Chicago only to find everyone staring at a blank whiteboard, waiting for you to explain the quarterly projections. There is nothing. Just... silence. It’s funny, actually—in a deeply frustrating sort of way—how we often expect communication to be intuitive, as if we’re all sharing some collective, unspoken frequency. I once spent three hours in a waiting room at a clinic in Seattle, just staring at a flickering fluorescent light, wondering if the receptionist was actually ignoring me or if she had simply transcended this physical plane. I think I felt more understood by that buzzing lightbulb than I do by this current prompt. Anyway, I am standing by. If there is a specific thought, a grievance, or even a particularly biting observation you wish to share, please do proceed. I shall be here, nursing my lukewarm coffee and waiting for something substantial to latch onto.Sure thing—consider it done. je

It’s a lovely sentiment, isn't it? Truly—one of those sweeping, romanticized ideals that makes for a great song lyric or a Hallmark card, but when you actually sit down to dissect it... well, reality tends to get in the way. We tell ourselves that if we could just find that one perfect connection, everything else would fall into place—the bills would pay themselves, the existential dread would vanish, and the world would suddenly make sense. But life isn't a pop ballad. It’s messy, complicated, and frankly, quite exhausting. You can have all the affection in the world, but if you're staring at a mounting pile of debt or dealing with the sheer chaos of modern existence, "love" feels like a very thin blanket against a blizzard. I remember sitting in a diner back in Chicago—just one of those rainy Tuesday afternoons where everything felt slightly off—thinking about how much effort we put into chasing this grand idea of romance while ignoring the practical, gritty foundations required to actually sustain a life. Love is the fuel, sure, but you still need an engine, a chassis, and a road that isn't currently falling apart beneath you. It’s a beautiful thought, really—deeply poetic—but let's not pretend it's a magic wand that fixes the fundamental friction of being alive.

Coffee wakes me up, smoking keeps me level, and the medication—well, that actually works. Honestly, I’m telling you, if you’ve truly lived through the chaos of actual schizophrenia and all its particular "charms," you wouldn't be standing here preaching against medication or labeling them as just another form of drugs—that's nonsense. Pure nonsense. Meds are what allow a person struggling with this to actually function, to live a life that isn't a total disaster. They aren't "drugs" in the recreational sense, and believe me, I know enough about illicit substances to know the difference. So, what is your grand solution then? You spend all this time preaching about faith or some other "alternative" path that's supposedly superior... fine, then tell me: what exactly is this way? Just say it. Give me the answer.
Believing that things are going to turn around—that's essential, truly—but let’s be honest: hope alone doesn't pay the bills. It's the actual, gritty execution that carries the weight. You can sit there all day praying for a turnaround, but without some real, decisive action, you're just spinning your wheels in the mud.
Look, I’m on medication for my schizophrenia, but let me get one thing straight—I am absolutely not some mindless zombie. And that movie you were watching? Honestly, you completely missed the point. The message it was trying to convey had nothing to do with mental illness at all—it was something else entirely. Just take a second to actually think about it, and then maybe you'll realize what I mean.
electricjackal55 electricjackal55 Member
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joined Nov 2011
#2569 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:So, I finally finished putting my story together regarding my journey through this relentless illness. It might not feel quite as overwhelming 😁if someone takes a moment to sit down and read it; I’d love to hear what you all think about it.

🙂

I have to admit, though—I don't think I fully grasped how much some of these moments actually mattered at the time. Maybe it’s just a bit too soon for me to be writing memoirs like this.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2570 ·
electricjackal55 said:🙂

I have to admit, though—I don't think I fully grasped how much some of these moments actually mattered at the time. Maybe it’s just a bit too soon for me to be writing memoirs like this.

😘

you might eventually realize it, or perhaps some things just don't end up being as important as they seem at the time 😉
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2571 ·
I honestly can’t wrap my head around this whole sickness—it makes absolutely zero sense to me, and frankly, I couldn't care less about its logic, so screw it.🙂
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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joined Mar 2010
#2572 ·
Larry Lewis said:I honestly can’t wrap my head around this whole sickness—it makes absolutely zero sense to me, and frankly, I couldn't care less about its logic, so screw it.🙂

What specifically do you mean?
Paul Anderson2 Paul Anderson2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Oct 2012
#2573 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:So, I finally finished putting my story together regarding my journey through this relentless illness. It might not feel quite as overwhelming 😁if someone takes a moment to sit down and read it; I’d love to hear what you all think about it.

I gave it a read too. I won't get into how much of it is actually factual, but... fights, drinking, more fights, two days of work, arguments, fighting, weed, drinking... it was a pretty intense life. Maybe things just "burned out" a bit. I guess we'll have to wait and see if everything settles back down, as much as that's possible.

I haven't had nearly that much going on in my life (and I'm a lot older), and I've probably only had a fraction of the alcohol he has...

Everything seems fine, as long as you can still look at the things happening around you objectively...
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2574 ·
driftinggull21 said:What specifically do you mean?

I just don't get how one day can feel perfectly fine—everything is steady, life is good—and then, out of nowhere, these paranoid thoughts start clawing at you, dragging you down into this heavy, dark mental fog.
If you’ve ever dealt with this, you know the feeling—it's like being shoved back to square one after you thought you'd finally made progress.
That’s just the nature of the beast, I suppose... it's a heavy, unpredictable thing, and you almost have to just accept that
this is simply how it is.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2575 ·
Paul Anderson2 said:I gave it a read too. I won't get into how much of it is actually factual, but... fights, drinking, more fights, two days of work, arguments, fighting, weed, drinking... it was a pretty intense life. Maybe things just "burned out" a bit. I guess we'll have to wait and see if everything settles back down, as much as that's possible.

I haven't had nearly that much going on in my life (and I'm a lot older), and I've probably only had a fraction of the alcohol he has...

Everything seems fine, as long as you can still look at the things happening around you objectively...

Yeah, there was definitely a lot going on. I've finally slowed things down just a little bit. 😁
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2576 ·
Larry Lewis said:I just don't get how one day can feel perfectly fine—everything is steady, life is good—and then, out of nowhere, these paranoid thoughts start clawing at you, dragging you down into this heavy, dark mental fog.
If you’ve ever dealt with this, you know the feeling—it's like being shoved back to square one after you thought you'd finally made progress.
That’s just the nature of the beast, I suppose... it's a heavy, unpredictable thing, and you almost have to just accept that
this is simply how it is.

I really do know what you're going through... I truly do.🤣
Maybe try bumping up your antipsychotic dose slightly whenever you feel like your stability is slipping. I mentioned earlier that I increased my Zyprexa for a few days myself, which was something my doctor suggested. Just please, whatever you do, don't try to lower the dose on your own! It’s definitely best to have a real conversation about it with your doctor first.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2577 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:I really do know what you're going through... I truly do.🤣
Maybe try bumping up your antipsychotic dose slightly whenever you feel like your stability is slipping. I mentioned earlier that I increased my Zyprexa for a few days myself, which was something my doctor suggested. Just please, whatever you do, don't try to lower the dose on your own! It’s definitely best to have a real conversation about it with your doctor first.

It's a total nightmare, isn't it? Just awful.🙂
I actually upped my medication because I'm feeling a little more level today, so I'll see how things play out over the next few days.

Thanks for the advice, Diego. Hang in there.🙂
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#2578 ·
Larry Lewis said:It's a total nightmare, isn't it? Just awful.🙂
I actually upped my medication because I'm feeling a little more level today, so I'll see how things play out over the next few days.

Thanks for the advice, Diego. Hang in there.🙂

Perhaps it isn't merely about increasing the dosage; a full adjustment of the medication might be necessary. This should be discussed during the next check-up. (paranoia)
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2579 ·
~Scarlett~ said:
Maybe it isn't just about upping the dosage on the antipsychotics—perhaps the whole treatment plan needs a complete overhaul. I really ought to bring that up at my next check-up. (The paranoid thoughts are still there)

I’m going to lay everything out for the doctor—honestly, what’s the point in keeping secrets? Even if it means spending a week or two checked into a facility while they tweak my meds, it’s not the end of the world. Besides, I'm actually feeling alright today, believe it or not...

I'll just hold steady until my appointment, see what the verdict is, and go from there. That's the plan.

Thanks for the input, Scarlett and Harold Anderson3.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2580 ·
Larry Lewis said:I’m going to lay everything out for the doctor—honestly, what’s the point in keeping secrets? Even if it means spending a week or two checked into a facility while they tweak my meds, it’s not the end of the world. Besides, I'm actually feeling alright today, believe it or not...

I'll just hold steady until my appointment, see what the verdict is, and go from there. That's the plan.

Thanks for the input, Scarlett and Harold Anderson3.

You're very welcome... if you don't mind me asking, where were you staying?

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