Schizophrenia - General Discussion

in Brooklyn?

Yeah, I mean, what can I even say? It's the same story at every hospital out there... they're absolutely terrifying

Morgan Hernandez5 said:Yeah, I mean, what can I even say? It's the same story at every hospital out there... they're absolutely terrifying

The mainstream media is basically a prison camp

My friend had nose surgery because of a bump, and she actually had her own private bathroom and a TV in her room. Like, a real suite.

Rachel Fox6 said:Looks like people are following this thread.
Since we won't have a cure for mental illness for at least another hundred years, here’s what’s broken:

At a well-known place like the Mayo Clinic, they lack:

enough doctors. They don't have the time or the bandwidth to actually do the job—it's one doctor for every 500 patients (and that doesn't even count those not currently admitted)

there aren't any day rooms in the wards, so patients just sit there like zombies. Even when you're struggling, you still feel discomfort, pain, sadness... you're still capable of realizing you're stuck in a place that sucks.

you end up pacing through these long hallways where all the patient rooms and doctor offices are lined up together.

the food is gross. It's the same thing every four days, and there's a high chance you'll just gain weight while staying there.

there's zero support for patients who are totally broke or isolated socially and mentally. Some people just don't have the strength to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

they don't have locked wards at Cleveland, which is nice I guess.
compared to somewhere like a state hospital where they lock you up, and if you want out, you basically have to break down the door.

I can't think of anything else, honestly.

And instead of actually talking to patients, they just deal with a bunch of bullshit.

The best part is getting outside and grabbing coffee with other patients if it's summer. But obviously, that's only if you have the cash.
because if nobody has come to visit you in ages, you probably don't have anyone to give you coffee money.

ugh☕☕


I've been through electroshock therapy myself. I'd be lying if I said things like Reiki, yoga, bioenergy, exercise, or therapy didn't help, but the pills are the ultimate shit. And if you actually want to get hired, don't you dare mention your diagnosis. It's capitalism now.

So, let's say schizophrenia affects 1% of the world population, and that doesn't even cover everyone struggling with mental health. That's about 65,000,000 people. Do the math yourselves. correction

Ahem... 1% would be 65 million. 😁 😁

urbangardener35 said:Ahem... 1% would be 65 million. 😁 😁

you've got a point 🙈 I mean, we have both specific and rough estimates, right? uhm 😁 ☕🤔

The study wraps up with a quick look at how elementary relations of intelligence, psychosis, happiness, and general adaptation all tie together. If you weigh the psychological and ethical sides, it seems clear that general adaptation is mostly about achieving goals rather than just feeling content inside. Being smart definitely helps with adapting to life as people see it now. However, there isn't much of a link between intelligence and developing psychosis. In fact, unless someone actively uses their intellect toward a specific goal, being highly intelligent can actually make it harder to stay happy—sort of like that old saying about how more knowledge brings more sorrow. Since psychosis is basically a failure to adapt, happiness ends up playing a secondary role in the whole process, depending on whether a person can actually act on what they want. As for the link between happiness and psychosis, it’s complicated; it varies depending on the type of psychosis, so there's no easy way to put it simply.

source: Copyright © 1920 American Psychiatric Association. All rights reserved.

What do you even do when someone refuses to accept their diagnosis, especially after a doctor has officially diagnosed them with F20? I’m trying to figure out how to support someone who is 24, has already been hospitalized five times, and has even attempted suicide. They're currently in their first year of college and are looking at freezing their credits again for another year, all while completely denying that they have schizophrenia. How am I supposed to help someone who won't acknowledge what's actually happening?

Laura Watson77 said:What do you even do when someone refuses to accept their diagnosis, especially after a doctor has officially diagnosed them with F20? I’m trying to figure out how to support someone who is 24, has already been hospitalized five times, and has even attempted suicide. They're currently in their first year of college and are looking at freezing their credits again for another year, all while completely denying that they have schizophrenia. How am I supposed to help someone who won't acknowledge what's actually happening?

Look, you gotta grab some books or find actual quotes about schizophrenia. That's probably where the real answers are.
But honestly, first things first... you have to deal with the biggest hurdle, which is getting them to actually realize they're ill. Once they get that, managing the condition gets a hell of a lot easier.

Morgan Hernandez5 said:Look, you gotta grab some books or find actual quotes about schizophrenia. That's probably where the real answers are.
But honestly, first things first... you have to deal with the biggest hurdle, which is getting them to actually realize they're ill. Once they get that, managing the condition gets a hell of a lot easier.

Man, tell me about it... I've been grinding away at that exact hurdle for five years now... still haven't been able to get them to see that they're sick.

You’ve gotta talk her into reading about this stuff together.
I get it, man... things can get pretty heavy for you.
Just stay on it. No other way around it... she's gotta wrap her head around it.
That's step one.

Laura Watson77, honestly... people rarely ever admit how their illness is actually structured, and you kind of expect them to just deny it entirely. I mean, it totally fascinated me when I was stuck in the hospital dealing with the same stuff. My first move is always to ask them, "So, what's actually going on with you?" and they just shrug and say they don't know. Then I'll be like, "Okay... then why are you even here?" and they're still clueless. I try to ask about their treatment plan because that usually tells you everything you need to know about the diagnosis, but of course, they don't know that either. Most patients just aren't interested in making any real progress, which is pretty much why involuntary holds exist in the US... just to make sure nobody skips their meds and to let the doctors and their staff finish the observation process...

Morgan Hernandez5 said:You’ve gotta talk her into reading about this stuff together.
I get it, man... things can get pretty heavy for you.
Just stay on it. No other way around it... she's gotta wrap her head around it.
That's step one.

luiz, look, some people just don't get it, and they never will, you know?☕

http://www.mind.org.uk/Information/B...ding/USHAD.htm

http://www.geometricvisions.com/Madn...tive-disorder/

http://www.revolutionhealth.com/drug...ctive-disorder

Yeah, I guess you should probably check this one out too:
http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/...play.php?f=237

I was reading somewhere that a difficult upbringing might be a contributing factor to schizophrenia (specifically regarding the child, rather than the mother😁). Experiencing trauma at such a tender age seems to leave a lasting impact on one's mental health throughout their entire life. I am curious to know what your own experiences have been with this topic.

Excuse me, and I know this might come across as a bit intrusive—and I truly don't mean to be impolite—but I am genuinely curious: what are the actual symptoms of this condition? How does it actually feel to live through it?
...my aunt used to hear voices back when she was working at her daycare center... and one of my close friends deals with the exact same mental health struggle, though she insists it’s all because of the weed she uses.
😢🤷

Mark Ramirez12 said:Excuse me, and I know this might come across as a bit intrusive—and I truly don't mean to be impolite—but I am genuinely curious: what are the actual symptoms of this condition? How does it actually feel to live through it?
...my aunt used to hear voices back when she was working at her daycare center... and one of my close friends deals with the exact same mental health struggle, though she insists it’s all because of the weed she uses.
😢🤷

You're just making stuff up and losing touch with reality.😢

A rash could show up too.

Mark Ramirez12 said:Excuse me, and I know this might come across as a bit intrusive—and I truly don't mean to be impolite—but I am genuinely curious: what are the actual symptoms of this condition? How does it actually feel to live through it?
...my aunt used to hear voices back when she was working at her daycare center... and one of my close friends deals with the exact same mental health struggle, though she insists it’s all because of the weed she uses.
😢🤷

-look, it's a serious mental health condition, sometimes called schizophrenia. it involves psychosis, losing touch with reality... sometimes the patient doesn't even realize they're sick, so they start imagining things, sensory illusions, hearing voices or commands they can't always distinguish from reality... then there's depersonalization, hallucinations, visions, all that stuff. basically, about 50% of it is genetic predisposition, and the rest usually hits during your teen years or due to sudden major stressors. so, the odds are roughly 50% genetics...
-and the other 50% comes from external factors. listen, I could go on about this until tomorrow, so if you want to learn more, just Google the different types and classifications...☕-(this is just our Morgan Hernandez5 hanging out with a coffee)

One of my closest friends deals with schizophrenia. She inherited it from her dad, and she’s only 17.
I can honestly just say she really needs to watch out for herself. She won't take her meds, and things are just heavy—she lost her father, her mom is basically a total mess, and her grandparents don't give a damn about her. It’s just us. Since she’s the youngest in our group, she’s still basically a kid, you know? Socializing is a massive struggle for her. We run into issues all the time because she’s convinced everyone is out to get her. She spirals into this deep negativity, flips her opinions constantly, and lies...

But man, she has such a huge heart... and I'd do absolutely anything for her. 🙂

Usually, this kind of thing hits hardest during puberty... if you want to avoid a mental breakdown, don't force it. It's really tough to make progress in that area unless she becomes aggressive or poses a danger to people around her, since she's clearly one of those folks who denies they're even sick (which honestly happens all the time)... maybe try talking it out with her primary care doctor first.