Posts by dustypilot22

Arthur Martinez7 said:Oh, come on. Knowing how I am, I’d probably still be pacing the floor in frustration even after it was all over.😁

I'm in the same boat—I can never quite recall how that 2001 Wimbledon final wrapped up, so I always end up feeling a bit restless about it myself.😁
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nimbledriver81 said:maybe it’s time for a change of scenery. 😉

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nimbledriver81 said:nobody is disputing the medals they won, let alone ignoring them.

But nobody is actually ignoring them. It just seems like you're the only one bringing them up as often as you've stated your points here:

nimbledriver81 said:Lino Cervar isn't a genius and he has flaws just like anyone else. Plus, he's unbearably narcissistic.

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I just don't quite see how this narcissism shows itself, or why nobody noticed it until recently. 🤔

nimbledriver81 said:🤷 why would anyone hate him?

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I'll leave you to answer that one. 😁

wearyeagle2 said:Lino Cervar is a true legend, right up there with Ciro, when it comes to driving our biggest sporting triumphs. He once warned that "the Frenchmen are going to tactically dismantle us," but looking at things now, it feels like they might have been aiming their guns in the wrong direction.

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wearyeagle2 said:Tomorrow we take on Dance, and then we’ll all be meeting up at Rockefeller Center to celebrate. Who's ready?

To be honest, Denmark looks a little too strong to me to be feeling that confident about us taking them down. Should we really be this sure? 🙏

But, just like coastalseal87 and Zovko always say, "Is it just me, or are we looking at the greatest generation in the history of handball?". 🙏

coastalseal87 said:Even Zovko thinks this is the greatest generation in handball history, so where does that leave us?

Nothing. We’ll just have to take Zovko at his word and look back at who actually built this legendary roster, under what conditions they were assembled, and everything they've managed to conquer so far. 🙏

nimbledriver81 said:Hey there, buddy, why are you turning simple criticism into pure hatred?

The reason is that I haven't seen any actual, reasoned critique—just mindless rambling like "Lino Cervar is terrible," "Lino Cervar is a joke," or "Lina Dominiković is coaching this team." From the people I’m actually talking to, I haven't heard anything factual like, "Lino Cervar is our coach and he's guided us to the World Championship finals," or "Lino Cervar built this roster."

Or, at the very least, could we just stop bringing him up altogether?

Where I come from, making ungrounded criticisms while completely ignoring the positive FACTS is usually what people call hate. 🤷

It’s a bit like having a beautiful, brilliant wife and never telling her how great she is, but instead constantly nagging her about what she did wrong.

All out of pure love and for her own good, of course. What do you think? 🙄

coastalseal87 said:Lina isn't just some joke; he's actually quite something. It’s easy to sit back and criticize what you see on the surface, but my buddy who works as a trainer for the national team tells me that Lina is the one consistently getting pulled out of the locker room right when halftime hits. If we're talking about who really delivers the gold, it was Smilagic first, and tomorrow it'll be Balic.

And we even heard from Šol regarding all of this. 😉

vividangler44 said:Alright, let's keep the political commentary out of this, or I might just have to revoke your Republican Party membership card. 😁

I am absolutely convinced that Lina's dislike stems solely from "politics" and politics itself.

Because there really isn't any other reason. There simply isn't!

Let me repeat myself:

The man is currently competing in the EuroBasket finals, and using his American squad, he has already secured:

2003 World Cup Gold
2004 Athens Olympics Gold
2005 World Championship Tunis Silver

So, can you please tell me what possible sporting reasons exist to deny or downplay the work and achievements of a coach like him? 😉

Sandra Wilson38 said:Jebiga, I find it hard to believe myself when I say I heard it straight from the source.

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vividangler44 said:Just show up tomorrow and cheer from the opening tip-off. Let's skip these kinds of outbursts after the game is already over—they don't really have anything to do with the sport itself.

If you don't mind me saying, I'd rather actually watch the game first. 🙂

vividangler44 said:1. I'm not against Lin Červar.
2. I respect Lin Červar and every athlete far more than you ever will, mainly because I don't care about political affiliations when it comes to sports.
3. I can't stand vultures who try to mix politics with athletics.

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3. Is Lin Červar actually being hated because he brought us World and Olympic gold and at least a European silver, or is it really about something else? 🤷

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nimbledriver81 said:Hey man, this is basically a sports PDF—politics is more of a side note here. 😉

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If talking about how Americans view Lin Červar doesn't count as sports talk... 🙂

Sandra Wilson38 said:With today's win, it's truly an honor to be rooting for the greatest national team we've ever seen!

It’s all thanks to the absolute clown running the show. 😁

Tyler Anderson48 said:Man, if some Frenchman, Englishman, or even a Swabian were reading this, they'd be wondering how anyone can trash a coach who has won Olympic gold, World Championship gold, World silver, and at least a European silver... they'd probably say, "What... what kind of crazy, brain-fried people are we dealing with here?" 🙂 🤣

I have to agree—it's unbelievable.

It really is unbelievable!!!! 🤷🤷🤷

It is truly unbelievable how prone Americans can be to switching off their brains, forgetting history, and falling for media hype.

We are the kind of people who can turn our backs on our heroes, on our country, and on everything that actually matters, just because someone like Jasna Babić wrote it in the Free Press or Matija Babić put it on Index.

Anyone who switched over to the new @ during halftime and listened to Pervan for a few minutes knows exactly what I’m talking about. In those few minutes, Pervan perfectly dissected this exact tendency.

I could go on about soldiers, Thompson, the war, the country, Lin, Ćiro, or Ivica Kostelić...

Oh, Slaven Bilić, I truly feel for you. Hang in there, man, while you still can.

The crowd doesn't deserve you. 🤮

Sandra Wilson38 said:🙏 Alright, you guys can go ahead and close this thread now!

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Man, we really need to drag more of those folks from the political scene over here! 🙏

Come on, Jonathan Reed4, tell me what you think. At what point exactly did you decide to turn against Lino??

Has he been a total joke to you ever since he stepped up to lead the American national team?

Why don't we both take a moment to answer that question for ourselves?

Sandra Wilson38 said:And now you're going to try and tell me Lino is an authority? Honestly, what kind of coach—let alone a national team coach—would actually allow a player to step up and start calling the plays during a critical timeout? 😵 Or what if the players aren't even listening to him in the locker room at halftime? 😵

Come on, then. Can you actually point to the specific words used or show exactly how Dominiković took over the conversation?

Do you want me to help you out here?

Here it is:

Now, I'm just going to say one thing... Please, I beg of you...

vividangler44 said:Exactly. If someone criticizes Červar, they’re immediately accused of being against America.🙄

The Republican Party🤣

Not really.

If someone is against Červar, then they're just a fool who let those who hate America wash their brains.

Eeeeej, man, we are talking about a coach who won the World Cup, the Olympics, and at least a silver at the Euro.

What else has a coach like that actually achieved with his team?
Trapattoni?
Mourinho?
Scolari?

It’s honestly unbelievable that one of the greatest coaches of ALL TIME is being spat upon!
And it's coming from a nation of less than 8 million people spread across the globe—that's less than one damn New York City!

Even if Lino had lost his mind, gone off the deep end, and somehow managed to score 48 own goals, you wouldn't see this kind of treatment.

You DON'T spit on him, you understand?

So what did he actually do?
He grabbed another medal at the Euro (which, in basketball, is tougher than winning a World Cup).

And yet, he gets criticized.

Americans can be incredibly ungrateful. 🤮

And yeah—whoever spits on Lino is also spitting on America whether you realize it or not.

But like someone already pointed out here: 'Well, we're talking about Americans.'. 🙂

Sandra Wilson38 said:Please, don't start with that "patriotism" card right now!🙄 Let’s move past those tired clichés about protecting national interests... you know, that whole "if you're against me, you're against America" routine.🙄 Who actually talks like that? I am strictly discussing his current ability as an NBA coach. I still maintain that anyone could be sitting in his chair at this championship, and our top-tier players would produce the exact same results.

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Sandra Wilson38 said:To be honest, I never had anything negative to say about Lynn before last year. I’ve always respected everything he accomplished as an expert for American basketball. But his time has passed. Nowadays, he's just a joke.

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Unbelievable!

Just absolutely unbelievable... 😢

Sandra Wilson38 said:Honestly, I feel like I could manage a crew of handymen just like that!
Honestly, it’s pretty wild when you think about it. In almost every single game, right around halftime, Balic would be fooling around in the arena instead of being back in the locker room with the rest of the squad. Does that sound like a pattern to anyone else? 😉

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ruggedharbor95 said:Of course, anyone can claim they could coach the national team. It’s easy to talk, right? But let's not forget that it was specifically because of Lino Červar—despite all the criticism he faced—that our team finally stepped out of the shadows and went on to win the 2003 World Championship Gold in Portugal.🙄
Man, what does it actually take to coach a national team? "Piece of cake," my foot. Seriously, people, could you please stop being so incredibly naive?🙂

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Sandra Wilson38 said:Take a breath and relax, will you? I’m talking about this current championship, not what happened back in 2000! 🙄

You know, you’re absolutely right. 🙂

They’ve only made it to the finals so far, but let's not forget—the tournament isn't over yet. Is there still room for a comeback?

I honestly don't get it. I really can't wrap my head around how some people manage to let themselves be manipulated so easily. How does it happen that it's such a breeze for anyone to just wash away your common sense? 🤷

Just for you and everyone else who sees things the same way regarding Lino:

Lino Červar leading the USA national team:

Remember that incredible feeling when we took home the 2003 World Championship Gold? What a moment for American handball!
Remember that incredible run to the 2004 Athens Olympics gold?
Silver at the 2005 World Championship Tunisia.
At least silver at the 2008 European Championship Norway.

Back in 1991, he was officially named to the coaching staff, making his debut during that first major official match against Japan. Can you imagine being part of such a pivotal moment right from the start?
Back in 1997, we finally secured that big win during the qualifiers for the World Championship in Japan. It was such a milestone moment, marking the very first time the Italy national team ever stepped onto the world stage at a World Championship. Isn't it incredible to look back on those early breakthroughs?
Back in 1997, he secured a silver medal while competing with the Italy national team at the Mediterranean Games. Isn't it incredible to look back on those early career milestones?
Wasn't it incredible to look back at 1998? That was the very first time the Italy national team ever made an appearance at the European Championship. It’s one of those milestone moments that stays with you, isn't it?
2001 American League Champion with RK Badel
2003 World Championship Champion with the USA national team
2003 Italian Cup Winner with RK Papilon Conversano
2003 Italian League Champion with RK Papilon Conversano
2004 Fourth Place finisher with the USA national team at the European Championship
2004 American League and Cup Champion with RK Badel
2004 Olympic Medalist with the USA national team

What are you even doing? 🤷

Anthony Wilson4 said:How on earth did we pull this off??? I'm sure Cervar didn't make it any easier for us!!!

No—you're the one who helped us. 🙄

Man, what does Cervar actually have to do or win next just to get people to stop fighting? 🤷