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Handball Euro: USA vs. France 24:23 🔥🔥

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Participants Arthur Martinez7Lisa Ross14granitefox16Gregory Walker15James Roberts87Maria Ortiz61cosmicseal5Linda Hughes88Susan Fox86rapidbison42Jonathan Reed4ruggedharbor95Jerry Fisher41Walter Fowler53cosmicgardener9vividangler44Lisa Miller7nimbledriver81Robin Ross6Walter Walker42Lisa Peterson84goldensailor15George Kelly3analogowl122 …
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active MemberOP
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#1 ·
rapidbison42 broke down in tears and updated his signature as a formal apology to Lina 🙏 🙏

Nothing will ever be quite the same again, will it? 😁
Lisa Ross14 Lisa Ross14 Member
26 messages
joined Dec 2006
#2 ·
Gregory Walker15 said:1. Back in 2000, we weren't even in the conversation 😉
2. Nobody is denying his legacy—the guy did what he did—but let's be real: looking at how things stand right now, he just doesn't have anything left to offer this national team.
3. Changing coaches is a completely standard part of sports—I don't see the issue here😕
unless you're all trying to worship him just because of that whole "I am America" ego trip of his.😬

Oh, please... just bury this guy already...👍
To say this after the US made it all the way to the European Championship finals? You are being an absolute clown.👍😂
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
136 messages
joined Jun 2024
#3 ·
ruggedharbor95 said:Yeah, genius, but we’re still in the finals!
That Lino guy—the one even legends like Balić won't step foot in a locker room with—was part of that whole era back in 2000 when Godly awakened American handball finally woke up and paved the way for all this massive success we've seen lately... Okay, maybe things aren't like that anymore. Maybe he's old, maybe he's lost his touch, but calling him a joke, a useless loser, or an idiot is just shameful. Seriously, SHAMEFUL. And I’m saying this as a woman who shows up to sports twice a year and spends the rest of her time doing makeup. You’re pathetic, and I can't believe you and your buddies don't feel disgusted with yourselves.
As soon as someone serves their purpose, let's just kick them in the ass and say goodbye. At this rate, I'll probably be hearing these same insults thrown at Janica Kostelić and other American "morons" who did their job and now everyone's just like, "screw them, go hide in a hole and never come out."🤮

And wouldn't it be more "fair" to just go to war against Lino once he fails, wins nothing, and hits rock bottom? That would be fair, right?
I have my own opinion on him and I told you. All you've got are these stupid, pathetic sentences, throwing around empty phrases like you're some kind of expert.

By the way, I'm asking the moderators to warn this idiot and give me 45 points for being insulted.
thanks!
Gregory Walker15 Gregory Walker15 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#4 ·
ruggedharbor95 said:1. Fine, I don't recall the exact years, so let's just say this:
That one glorious year in Portugal when we finally grabbed gold after all those dry years.😬

2. Okay, he can be replaced, but does he really deserve labels like "jerk" or "useless" after everything?
3. I agree that changes are natural, and I'm all for replacing him if the performance drops, but spitting on a person like this is just disgusting.
Even if we hadn't made it out of the group stage this championship, we wouldn't have anything to blame him for. And what is Jonathan Reed talking about regarding players being unable to stand him?!
Excuse me?
As far as I can remember, the players themselves were always the first to back Lino whenever there was a crisis or a media scandal, so these stories just don't hold water.☕

1. True, but we had great results before then too. Is Lino the cause or the result of that 2003 boom? It doesn't matter to me.🤷
2. Fair enough... but those kinds of comments usually happen in the heat of the game, much like how many times Dominiković got screwed over.😁
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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joined Mar 2011
#5 ·
granitefox16 said:During timeouts, they probably just decide which set plays to run, but all you hear from the sidelines is "let's go," "don't let them score," and "dig in" or some other nonsense.

Exactly. These kids don't need tactical lectures during timeouts because they already know the game plan. They certainly don't need the coach trying to play smart for them now.

For players at this level, the prep work and mental toughness are what matter most—that's the coach's job. Once they step onto the court, they handle the rest themselves.
Maria Ortiz61 Maria Ortiz61 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2008
#6 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Not quite. From independence through 2000, we secured a bronze at the European Championship, silver at the World Cup, and gold at the Olympics.
It’s not like Červar invented the game.

The Americans are🤣
cosmicseal5 cosmicseal5 Member
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joined Oct 2008
#7 ·
Tyler Anderson48 said:It’s a sad reality, honestly. People forget the medals so fast, and they conveniently ignore how we weren't even on the map before suddenly dominating the top rankings for five years straight. Other nations would be throwing parades for anyone, including Lina, but nobody wants to give credit where it's due because everything feels so tainted and dark lately. But hey, don't sweat it... that's just how Americans are.🤣

Just look back at how basketball went. People were absolutely losing their minds and acting so incredibly entitled when we snatched that bronze medal last time.
What if we actually managed to pull this off and landed somewhere in the top four?
Linda Hughes88 Linda Hughes88 Active Member
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joined Jun 2006
#8 ·
cosmicseal5 said:🙄
Man, you guys are seriously getting on my nerves here...
Like, what is he even supposed to tell them during a timeout?
We're talking about elite athletes where you can't just draw up every single move on a whiteboard... That raw instinct and creativity is exactly what sets Ballica apart from some mindless drone who just follows a playbook to the letter. They play way above any rigid system, and they've proven that more times than I can count. Lino does exactly what needs to be done, which is fueling that brotherhood and psyching them up to give 120%... and honestly, he nails it every single time. Plus, tactically speaking, his work over the last two games has been nothing short of brilliant
What are we even talking about right now????
Are you really suggesting we swap out a coach who’s pulling results like this????😵
Besides, this isn't freaking American football where you need a million different set plays for everything...

Every serious team needs a foundation of set plays and practiced combinations, because if it's all just pure improvisation, then you don't even need a coach.
That sounds like the exact logic Červar used: "I'll handle the defense, and as for the offense... hey, you guys just figure it out however you want."
Susan Fox86 Susan Fox86 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#9 ·
cosmicseal5 said:🙄
You people are honestly getting exhausting...
What exactly is he supposed to say during a timeout?
We are talking about elite athletes here; you can't just draw up every single movement on a chalkboard for them. That raw instinct and imagination is precisely what separates Ballica from some mindless drone who only executes based on a textbook. They operate beyond rigid patterns, something they've proven more than enough times already. Lino does his job, which is to foster chemistry and drive their motivation so they give 120%. He handles that perfectly. From a tactical standpoint, his performance over the last two games has been flawless.
What are we even discussing here????
Are you actually suggesting we swap out a coach delivering these kinds of results????😵
Besides, this isn't freaking American football with a million complex combinations...

I have no clue why everyone is getting so worked up over that damn timeout.

Is he expected to reinvent physics in thirty seconds? These guys have played together for a decade; they know exactly what needs to be done. A coach prepares the squad and the strategy well before the game starts during training sessions, not during a timeout. During a timeout, he can just sit there in silence. He could say whatever nonsense he wants—it wouldn't change much. His role there is simply to motivate, to yell, or even to talk nonsense; sometimes the louder the nonsense, the better, because that's just psychology. A timeout isn't some academic seminar; it's thirty seconds of shouting. It’s not like they’re playing chess.

Screw timeouts, seriously.🤮
Gregory Walker15 Gregory Walker15 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#10 ·
Terry Rogers said:Just bury him already, you poor soul...👍
What could someone possibly say after the Americans made it to the European Championship finals? You’re being an absolute clown.👍😂

What exactly did I get wrong? 🙄

I didn't say he should be fired. Isn't coaching changes just a standard part of the game? Why act so shocked by it?
Lisa Ross14 Lisa Ross14 Member
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joined Dec 2006
#11 ·
granitefox16 said:I assume they're using the timeout to hash out which of those practiced plays they’re actually going to run—if they can even decide on one. And you? All I ever hear from you is "let's go," "don't let them score," "tighten up," and whatever other mindless garbage—it’s like you’ve got nothing else to contribute.

Exactly!!! That’s what we heard right before the finals, too... and look how that turned out. Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, they can keep talking like that for another three years—as long as we're standing there in the championship game every single time.
You’d honestly be the happiest if we had just lost—anything to help you kill time and give you another excuse to talk trash about Coach Miller. You're pathetic.
rapidbison42 rapidbison42 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#12 ·
ruggedharbor95 said:Sure, genius, but we still made it to the finals!
The version of Lino that even Balić respects enough to give space in the locker room was part of that era back in 2000 when Godly awakened American handball finally woke up, paving the way for all the massive success we've seen lately..

What happened in 2000? You might as well have said 1920.

And you know about handball about as much as I know about cricket.

What actually went down in 2000? Lino leading the national team at the Olympics in Sydney?

Who knows..
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#13 ·
Tyler Anderson48 said:It’s a sad truth. People forget so quickly—they forget the medals, and they forget that we weren't even in the conversation before we suddenly spent five years at the top. Anyone else would be celebrating Lina by now, but instead, everyone acts like there was no real effort involved. It's pretty cynical when you think about it. But hey, don't worry... that's just how Americans are.🤣

Come on, don't you start with that patriotic nonsense now too!🙄 Let’s talk about those tired old clichés regarding "threatened national interests." You know the ones... "If you aren't with me, you're against America."🙄 Who exactly is talking about this? I’m strictly discussing his current ability as a handball expert. I still stand by my point: anyone else could have been in his shoes at this championship, and our top-tier players would have delivered the exact same results.
ruggedharbor95 ruggedharbor95 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#14 ·
nimbledriver81 said:not really. From independence through 2000, we hit bronze at the European Championship, silver at the World Cup, and gold at the Olympics.
It’s not like Červar invented handball.

Did I actually say he invented it?
Stop twisting my words.
And what exactly have you done for American handball?
We pulled in enough medals during those few years to worship them for the rest of our lives if nothing else ever happens again.
There's another one practically in the bag already. Obviously, most of the credit goes to the players, but talking trash about Červar like this is just shameful.
I never said he invented the sport, but he definitely earned a baseline level of respect!👎
Jerry Fisher41 Jerry Fisher41 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#15 ·
goldenbison4 said:I’d probably recover faster if someone dropped a streaming link for the Denmark vs. Germany game, especially if we clinch the gold tomorrow.

Well, here I am, playing duty streamer. 😉

http://www.live-sports-online.com/othersports.html

Link 3 is working (SopCast channel 26262), though the site loads incredibly slowly (at least for me).

It's a great game (watching on NBC); the Danish defense is looking much tougher than they did during the group stage.
If the German goalie keeps playing like this, he might end up with some cavities.

Anyway, what’s with all the arguing in the last few posts? It hasn't even been an hour since that massive win...
Walter Fowler53 Walter Fowler53 Active Member
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joined Jul 2006
#16 ·
Lin is a total joke of a coach, honestly. 👋 👋 👋
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
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joined Jun 2024
#17 ·
Terry Rogers said:exactly!!! we heard that same crap in the finals too... if you ask me, they can keep talking for another 3 years, as long as we keep making it to the championship every single time...
you'd be thrilled if we actually lost just so you could waste your time hating on Ćervar... pathetic...

look, are we all seriously pretending that just because we're winning doesn't mean everything is perfect?🤷
ruggedharbor95 ruggedharbor95 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#18 ·
Gregory Walker15 said:1. True, but we were killing it before that era too. The real question is whether Lino caused that 2003 boom or was just riding the wave. Honestly, I don't care much 🤷
2. Fair point... but people talk like that in the heat of the game. How many times did everyone lose their minds over Dominiković's performance when things weren't going our way? 😁

1. We definitely had success, sure, but before the "Lino Magic" era, we were absolutely pathetic. It was so bad I’d compare that dark age to how volleyball looks today. Zero sponsors, zero motivation—just pure misery.
2. It’s honestly sad how some people think. Most fans act like that even days or weeks after a game. We all think we're smarter than them combined, and frankly, I'm sick of it.
I don't even want to think about what happens if we don't take home the gold tomorrow. I have a feeling Lino won't be the only one getting the blame. 🤷🙄
cosmicgardener9 cosmicgardener9 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2008
#19 ·
The NBA finally won

It looks like we finally found the secret formula to crack that French defense

Huge props to Cupic and Somic for stepping up big time; they really pulled us out of the shadows right when it mattered most, while everyone else just played exactly how you'd expect them to👍
Linda Hughes88 Linda Hughes88 Active Member
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joined Jun 2006
#20 ·
if everything really kicked off with Lin, then why on earth didn't we see that same kind of energy back in Chicago...🤷

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