Carl Garcia22 said:If we're talking boxing, as far as I'm concerned, the Klitschko brothers are overrated.
Quite the opposite. The Klitschkos are actually underrated. I have yet to see a single forum, a single newspaper, or hear a single former boxer or commentator claim they are overrated. Everyone talks about them being manipulators, athletes whose records aren't earned, how they're mediocre and dodge real competition... Maybe people back home think otherwise. But here in the States, the media writes about them as if they're boring, weak, and unwatchable, claiming they have nobody left to face. Whatever.
I honestly can't fathom why there is so much senseless bickering and constant arguing happening here. We really ought to respect the will of the people, and the people have opted for a grand coalition between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. (It’s essentially the same scenario we saw during the last elections in Germany, where the CDU-SPD coalition formed, which didn't result in anything negative for them—quite the opposite, actually.) This move would allow the remaining parties—the Agrarian Party, the Liberal Party, and the Liberal Party—to actually benefit; by sitting in the opposition, they could better define their identities and present themselves as far more serious political players in the next election cycle.
Does anyone know what happened to that band Nova? You know, the ones who put out the "Lifting Spirits" album. Personally, I always found them significantly better than Jinx.
I haven't actually sat down with the debut Daft Punk album yet, though I have a nagging suspicion it’s missing a bit of that vocoder magic and some heavy gated reverb. Did they ever manage to secure a label over in London City?
While my buddies back in the early eighties were busy fantasizing about Kim Wilde, Nena, Samantha Fox, or Sabrina, I had much more sophisticated tastes. I spent my time picturing Bonnie Tyler—specifically in that iconic white dress from her music video (bless that anthem)—pulling me into a hug against her chest, softly stroking my hair while whispering, "every now and then i get a little bit restless and i dream of something wild..." Some twisted souls might try to label that an Oedipus complex, but they clearly lack vision.
I agree that the gated reverb is essential, especially since the vocalist sounds like they’re singing through a vocoder, and there are some solid solos in there. But honestly? The most critical element here is that gated reverb.
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Funeral received far too much praise. While tracks like "Neighborhood" were strange and genuinely seductive, most of the rest was just... odd. You can praise Neon Bible all you want, but it doesn't matter; everything said in its favor is the absolute truth.
Man, I’ve only got Shake the Sheets on CD. It’s solid, though—really infectious. Those ecstatic guitar parts are stunning. But then again, it isn't everything. You've got me and mia😍 or walking to do😍, that whole party punk vibe, the kind of stuff that gets people jumping into strollers and dancing.
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We seriously need to establish a dedicated rock and roll sub-forum specifically for those of us over 30, where we won't be constantly harassed by the younger crowd.😠
boldscout72 said:Man, you guys are just old and boring. 🙄
I mean, what is there even left to say😕 when you get screwed over like this. It seems nobody has any respect for their elders or those who have contributed more than others anymore. Truly pathetic.
stormyviper11 said:There isn't any real movement or revolution happening because there simply isn't a viable, enticing alternative to this broken system... 😢 Communism is dead, along with all the ideals it once championed; now, it’s just a rotting corpse. The only option that even remotely appeals to those searching for an alternative is, unfortunately, religion. And that specific type of movement and cultural scene is currently seeing a massive surge. To actually conceive of a movement—to stage a rebellion against something—you have to believe in something else, something different. But that sense of belief has been lost in this cynical era. Hedonism has become socially acceptable, and that's what killed acid house. Punk made sense because it emerged at a time when it still felt like an alternative was possible. Just like the hippie movement did.
damn right! Today's youth have such a shallow relationship with music. They swap tracks, they point each other toward new releases... it all sounds perfectly healthy on the surface. But I see the issue in the total loss of connection to reality. There is an advantage to listening to music on your iPod while riding the subway, sure, but that carries a certain loneliness within it. People are retreating into themselves. I don't get the feeling that any major musical movements are rolling through the world today like they were 25 or 35 years ago. Back then, punk actually engaged in a dialogue with what was happening in the world. Nowadays, most kids would rather listen to some obscure band from the sixties or seventies than anything being offered to them today.
I’ll admit, that whole bit about music and branding sounds pretty cynical. But look, there is an undeniable upside to how we consume music today—the internet, MP3s, MySpace, blogs, all that stuff. The real advantage is that we can actually dig up tracks that would have been impossible to find otherwise. That part is great. My issue lies elsewhere: I see the music industry trying to claw back control over everything once again. The idea that some massive corporation wants to dictate our personal taste through a little piece of white plastic and a white cable is, frankly, quite unsettling to me. It makes me wonder, though—is this radical diversification of musical interests killing off that sense of community music used to build just twenty years ago? Does music still have the power to mobilize people in the same way today?
It’s honestly good that someone out there still actually listens to music. It seems to me that most kids these days are just collecting albums like they're nothing more than little sticker collections.
It is perfectly obvious that we have to accept the new reality of the bin recycling scene, but let’s face it: for years now, we haven't seen music that actually moves in lockstep with a social movement. As ridiculous as it sounds, acid house was the last time we truly saw that kind of connection. Maybe something will finally hit this new generation soon, though I still can't quite put my finger on what it might be. Movements like hippie culture, punk, or acid house were tied to a very specific era, and once those moments pass, they're gone. Hopefully, something fresh will emerge. To me, today's scene still feels far too safe.
Nicholas King62 said:who even talks about post-punk anymore?
I don't think the point of this thread is to whine about bands on MTV—and let’s be clear, this whole debate is getting so overblown that we’re practically one step away from it becoming the modern-day equivalent of hair metal—it's actually about the general state of music. And I maintain that the current situation is nonsense. (The lack of ideology is a separate issue entirely. A broader context...)
Are we looking for villains?
What’s wrong with Clockcleaner? Air Conditioning? Hair Police, Battleship, Lightning Bolt, for God's sake?
The garage scene is absolutely surging right now, and frankly, they aren't even strictly bound by genre anymore. River City Tanlines, Jay Reatard, Carbonas, Functional Blackouts...
Who knows, you have to go digging, as always.
In this flood of options, it's actually quite cool to find something worthwhile and share it with everyone. Personally, I am not entirely convinced that the list provided here is any good. It all feels a bit suspicious to me. Just throwing ten bands out there without much thought. There was a time when a person actually knew what was good and what wasn't. Nowadays, you can't really trust anyone. What I love about music has its roots in an era when information wasn't everywhere. Just a piece of vinyl and the cover art. You would put the record on the turntable, stare at the sleeve, and that was all the information you needed about the band. To me, those people were mystical heroes. The internet has simply destroyed that aspect of it. It is completely irrelevant whether a band is some MTV post-punk act or a garage band on an iPod; the music industry will attempt to exert control regardless. They did it with indie labels, after all. MTV is a joke; they don't even play music anymore. On what basis are you certain that Bloc Party is a bad band just because they appeared on MTV, or that Carbonas is "good garage" just because they happen to be playing on your expensive iPod?
Those hipster types from Brooklyn are the ones to blame for this whole surge of indie boy bands lugging guitars around; they’ve basically dragged us straight back into the eighties. And don't even try telling me they aren't everywhere. The real issue is that it’s just post-punk stripped of any actual ideology, reduced to nothing more than an aesthetic. Back in the day, punks actually felt ashamed of making money, whereas these modern acts are out there practically auditioning for commercials.
