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Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Michael Miller39 said:Sure she

if performance reviews and result tracking become a mandatory requirement for absolutely every government employee in the country, rather than just targeting teachers. 😉

exactly........ we end up right back at square one. It’s been the same loop for 20 years now... someone else always takes over...☕

The American education system is probably one of the least productive parts of society...🙄 student numbers have been dropping for years, yet nothing changes. Results are just getting worse.

How is the Department of Education even going to answer that?

Expecting anything from them or their members is basically masochism... except for those few brilliant individuals who actually remember why they joined the profession in the first place.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Charles Murphy6 said:It’s all just one big, exhausting mess. You have these veteran teachers who think they can run the show exactly how they please, regardless of what actually works, and frankly, they just stomp all over anyone who disagrees. And the worst part? It isn’t even isolated to my kid’s classroom anymore—it’s become this widespread, systemic epidemic that’s infecting schools all across the country, which is honestly nothing short of infuriating.
Every single conversation we have with my parents eventually devolves into a relentless interrogation about my English proficiency, and frankly, she remains as stubborn as a mule on this subject.
To be honest, I’ve always viewed this whole program as nothing more than a glorified way for people to actually get close to one another.

Anywhere else, that kind of behavior would be grounds for firing...🙂 but nope... not happening...

They are basically working hard to make sure generations upon generations of people end up hating education.

Like there isn't any other way to do it.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Charles Murphy6 said:It honestly drives me insane seeing how they handle English in the lower elementary grades. If I had my way, I’d personally hunt down whoever designed those curriculum books and give them a piece of my mind.
They are still just trying to master reading and writing American English, and then suddenly—boom—they're expected to juggle English at the same time.
If this were being taught through some interactive game, fine, I could get behind that.
But with my little girl? Every time English class rolls around, she’s dealing with full-blown stomach aches and nausea from the sheer stress of it all.
I even heard about this ridiculous situation in a first-grade classroom where the teacher asked the kids to write out numbers as words in their notebooks. She says "five," and of course, all they hear is "five" pronounced with that weird phonetic twist. Suddenly, half the class is in tears because they haven't learned the letter "f" yet.🙂
I mean, seriously, is this actually considered normal??
And look, I don't blame the teachers entirely; they're stuck following a brainless curriculum, but man, I feel like tearing up those stupid textbooks and those even stupider educational CDs—you know the ones, all that repetitive, mindless "yum yum, cola" nonsense. Who on earth was the moron who actually made money off such idiocy?🙂
There used to be an actual system in place back in the day.
Now, I'm not a native English speaker myself—my German is pretty terrible, to be honest😁—but I remember when we used a dedicated notebook specifically for tracking how words were spelled, how they were actually pronounced, and what they meant.
That doesn't exist anymore...
In German, you don't really run into massive hurdles with reading, which I always appreciated.
But with English? You see "I" and you have to guess if it sounds like "eye." It's exhausting. I've decided that my child and I are going to build our own custom study notebook from scratch, because if we follow this current mess, things are not going to end well.

🙂

For those who know, don't they teach kids English using a phonetic approach?🤷
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Yeah, we really need to make preschool mandatory starting around age three or four. We should be prioritizing our kids and their future over things like professional football stadiums or big sports franchises. Let's turn that short six-month pre-K program into a full year of preschool right at the elementary school level.
That way, kids actually get to play while they're there. It would finally help us move past that outdated mindset where kids are actually afraid of starting school...

Someone mentioned that kids don't get enough playtime at school, and I totally agree.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Rotating homeroom teachers every year actually gives more opportunities to younger educators and those who truly care about working with kids. It lets people who aren't delivering results find a different career path before it's too late.

You can easily track performance and progress throughout the entire school year. Those meeting national education standards will quickly stand out from the crowd of burnt-out, unhappy staff who seem to resent everything. For those who actually value teaching, there’s always a chance to fix their methods or knowledge gaps and keep their jobs.

Obviously, most people won't agree with this.

As a parent, my priority is simply seeing happy teachers and happy students.

Real success doesn't come from using the exact same outdated methods decade after decade.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Kate Cox2 said:I'm honestly quite confused by that last part...😕
One-on-one meetings are what we call parent-teacher conferences, and every single school, grade level, and teacher already conducts them. Parent meetings—the group kind—are something else entirely; those aren't meant for debating grades, but rather for discussing topics that affect all parents in that grade... things like field trips, the yearly curriculum, and similar ongoing "logistical issues."
Conferences are always held one-on-one and remain completely private,,,

And how on earth do you propose changing homeroom teachers every year? Typically, one professor leads their assigned class for four years. First, they take them from 1st through 4th grade, then another takes over from 5th through 8th. What would even be the point of changing that? What would actually improve if a new teacher arrived every single year, other than the fact that they wouldn't know their students at all? It would take them an eternity just to figure out the classroom dynamic while trying to establish any semblance of communication or trust with the parents..

Furthermore, the number of children in a classroom is determined solely by the Department of Education, and no individual school has any say in that matter. There are strict state regulations regarding the minimum and maximum number of students allowed per class. If the situation arises where two classes can be filled with 30 students each, a school cannot simply decide on its own to split them into three classes of 20.

From my own experience, transitioning isn't an issue at all. Classes work perfectly fine, and the results are actually better. Kids already know their peers, and by the end of school, everyone knows everyone. It prevents parents from interfering with teachers. Plus, a parent doesn't have to worry about their kid being stuck for another year with someone whose teaching style or communication just doesn't click with them.

The homeroom teacher should primarily teach a core subject like Math, English, or Science. Other subjects should be handled by specialists, just like in high school.

It avoids those situations where students, staff, and parents are stuck dealing with the same people or kids year after year.

As for the info shared at these PTA meetings, it's enough to pick one or two parent reps to pass information along to everyone else. They act as the link between the teacher, the school, and the families.
Kids bring home any paperwork that needs signatures anyway.

Grade updates are handled during conferences (like you said)

That way, everyone gets the info they need on time without needing to schedule bulky meetings. Everything can go out via email or text, so no one can claim they didn't know something just because they missed a meeting. Teachers get to focus on teaching, and the parent reps handle the admin stuff.

Of course people say "nothing can be done," because people always focus on what's impossible. It's easy to just point out the problems and say it can't happen.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Sophia Lopez12 said:I actually believe the exact opposite....The only people getting criticized are the enlightened educators...I haven't read nearly as much about incompetent, greedy individuals using their jobs to vent their frustrations as I have about the teaching profession...Nobody bothers to consider that these people are working with other people's children, often dealing with 25 kids in a single classroom...Are you people actually, truly aware of how those children behave??? And how do those parents act? It makes me sick when someone claims, yeah, they make a huge salary, do nothing all day, collect paychecks, and who knows what else...And then we act surprised when the children turn out that way.🙂..

It’s pathetic to think that this profession (yes, it is) is chosen simply because someone couldn't get into anything else, or because they're trying to soothe their own frustrations...People enter this field because they WANT to work with children, because they love them...Of course, there are exceptions. But those are just exceptions, for heaven's sake. Teachers are the ones raising and educating your children when you aren't there; they are the ones helping them, caring for them, giving them a hug when mom or dad isn't around, being with them every single day....

There is a beautiful saying: "Teachers are like candles. They burn themselves out to light the way for others."

Personally, I would love to have a parent sitting in my classroom every day. Most people have no idea how much of ourselves we give and how much we exhaust ourselves. Not for "our" interests, not for our own kids, but for yours. To me, being a teacher is a calling. And it is incredibly difficult for me to read some of the sentences appearing more and more frequently lately.
But regardless of all the insults, I will always do my job with love, primarily for the children...no matter what anyone else thinks.🙂

That all holds water... I agree that teaching is a "calling"... but we're dealing with structural, social, and other issues... things that plague our entire society, which show up most clearly in schools.

We have overcrowded classrooms, terrible school organization, high corruption... and general social issues that everyone expects someone else to fix. When you tell someone they're just as responsible for corruption as the person who sent them an "order" from above to make sure a certain kid gets XYZ, people lose it. They claim they're different... they say they're just following orders...

The professionals, along with the parents, have to lead the change... if they won't, who will?
Things aren't going to fix themselves, and there isn't some Secretary of Education who can solve everything alone.

People are most sensitive regarding their children, especially since kids spend more time with teachers than with their own families. That's why it feels like everyone is "attacking" the staff.

We need to move past collective parental blame and start doing one-on-one meetings... guarantee privacy and dignity... cap classes at 20-22 students, reshuffle classes every two years, and rotate lead teachers every year... there are things we could actually do if there was any willpower, and there are perfectly good reasons for all of this.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Melissa Gonzalez2 said:Honestly, it feels like quality teachers are becoming a rare breed lately. In my entire time in school, I’ve only ever had maybe two or three educators who actually knew how to teach. I once had a chemistry teacher who just read straight from the textbook; she never actually showed us how to derive formulas, so I never truly grasped the subject. High school was even worse. We were forced to memorize fifteen pages of material just to pass a quiz, like we were some kind of mindless robots. She’d just rattle off the headings and expect us to be like, "blah blah blah," and follow along. Then there was this geography teacher who would just give us a chapter title from the book and tell us to summarize it. She didn't actually lecture at all—she just sat there buzzing away. One history teacher was actually decent, but if you dared to point out a mistake—which I did once because I was always such an overachiever—she’d dock my grade just because I bruised her ego. And don't even get me started on my XYZ class teacher; she’d hand out exams and then basically guarantee everyone a failing grade. It’s just one ridiculous example after another...

It isn't just about bad staff. It's the whole education system being broken and failing to deliver results. The teaching staff itself is just a product of that flawed system.

You can't keep doing the exact same thing decade after decade and expect things to improve.

Then there's the money issue, which everyone avoids talking about. Teachers aren't "adequately" paid anywhere, with very few exceptions. That really comes down to poor economic freedoms and the overall state of our country's economy.

We have to find a way to reward the teachers who actually get amazing results with their students, whether academically or otherwise. A satisfied teacher isn't just about the paycheck—money only goes so far before you need other forms of fulfillment.

Sadly, everyone is stuck in this cycle now, not just teachers. Everyone is constantly worrying about paying the bills and making it through the month.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Patrick Grant14 said:Look, you see it as an annoyance—you think they're doing too much—but frankly, I find it wonderful that they actually engage with the children, trying to cheer them up and entertain them, only to show it all off to proud parents. We have a performance tomorrow; I can hardly wait to see how the little ones react watching the teachers and the older kids perform.
What you mentioned regarding it feeling more like an orphanage than a daycare applies strictly to those staff members who just feed them, put them to sleep, and wait impatiently for parents to pick them up—not to those who go through the effort of organizing workshops and plays.
After all, a daycare is an educational institution, not a soup kitchen or a boarding house.

But hey, I suppose a hundred different people will always have a hundred different opinions.🤷

I get that, but you can't just present people with a finished product. Horuk... and then complain when parents don't participate.

Things should be agreed upon ahead of time, put on a calendar, and shared with parents at the start of the school year... or at least a few weeks or months early.

At least that's my experience in both preschool and elementary school here in the US.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Kevin Bailey2 said:It isn't just delusional; it's self-centered, selfish, and plain absurd. Let's keep going...

Looking at everything strictly through an adult lens is a sign of narrow-mindedness and total fanaticism.

Actually trying to step into a child's shoes requires real thought and effort.

It sounds so incredibly senile when people start their stories with:
"Back in my day..."

Total nonsense.
I had plenty of times as a kid where I had to act "responsible" like an adult, but that was only because life hit me hard early on. For example, my mom used to blow all our money on useless junk like jewelry and perfume when we didn't need it. By the time I was seven or eight, I’d often tell her she should buy groceries or pay the electric bill instead of wasting it on crap. My "rationality" back then didn't make me some kind of prodigy; it just meant I learned way too early what it felt like to be hungry and sitting in the dark without power.
And it’s tragic. Really tragic.
Whether parents force kids into premature maturity and "logic," or life circumstances just force them to grow up too fast... it’s something no child deserves.

God forbid I'd ever want the same thing I went through for my own kid or anyone else's.

Blaming a ten-year-old who’s already been through their own gauntlet... that’s just immature and thoughtless.

I don't get it either. This whole thing just drags on forever... It's almost childish how everyone wants that kid to be some kind of superman.

Empathy without...

It’s painfully obvious that both Mom and the teacher completely blew it. Just your typical "adult" failure.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Lisa Rivera said:
I suppose I should offer some sort of greeting, though the novelty of these digital exchanges wears thin with each passing year... It is all quite exhausting, isn't it? One spends so much energy attempting to find substance in a void that offers nothing but noise. Still, I am here. I shall remain... for now. kaže:
In one particular instance involving Josh, the situation wasn't even about a child borrowing money... rather, it was a matter of the teacher being summoned to provide funds to the student herself, based on her own subjective motives and assessments... quite a peculiar way for things to unfold...

When someone presents you with something entirely unsolicited, one might be tempted to label it a gift... though, in my experience, such unprompted gestures often carry a weight that isn't immediately apparent...

To expect a ten-year-old, who is simply trying to find their footing within a peer group, to reject the desire for conformity is nothing short of an illusion. It is fundamentally unrealistic... And quite frankly, these cynical commentaries suggesting that a child who lacks certain things should somehow transcend those needs to become some sort of "super" archetype? It’s distasteful, if I’m being honest. But I suppose that is just the nature of modern discourse these days...

She belongs to him... I suppose I should express my gratitude... though one wonders if such gestures truly change the fundamental nature of things... anyway, thank you. It started with nothing more than pocket change intended for a Happy Meal... and now, he’s actually demanding more... I suppose I should begin... though I find myself questioning the utility of such an endeavor at this particular juncture. It seems we are expected to provide input, yet the context remains frustratingly nebulous... one wonders if clarity is even on the agenda today. Regardless, I shall attempt to proceed, however futile that may feel... I have returned...

No, she was actually the one who offered him the money... With the added assurance that his mother would see to its return...It was a loan, not a gift. The child wasn't under any obligation to accept those funds... $10It could have been simpler, really... one could have just accepted the offer and opted for a more modest arrangement, perhaps settling for something under...$3.25But that isn't the point, and that is precisely why there needs to be a real conversation with the child, rather than just a meeting with the teacher... It’s a fundamental oversight. Now, she has offered him a way out, but next time, it might be a friend who extends that same temptation. And we all know how this ends... it will be the exact same story, over and over again...

You simply hand them your shirt and your credit lines, and suddenly you’re all tied up in knots. You won't be able to point a finger at the big banks or those private vultures and claim they just handed you a gift... even though we both know that money comes with a heavy price tag attached... one you'll end up paying back with interest...

It seems rather improper for a teacher to demand a refund when the student never even requested it in the first place... though, in fairness, she isn't solely responsible for this entire bureaucratic mess. One could argue that the fault lies equally with everyone involved in the third grade administration... it’s all quite exhausting...

Don't give me that. If adults are supposed to be examples about not taking out loans—especially here in America—then your whole argument falls apart. Second, you walk into a bank and take out credit. Are you claiming he consciously went on the trip knowing the teacher would gift him the money, and therefore he accepted it?

And third, you missed a key point in your argument: he didn't ask her for the money (like you go into a bank to request a loan). She pulled him aside and handed him the cash... then treated it like a loan after the fact. She basically wiped out whatever good intentions she had... probably due to communication issues with the mom.

That's a really poor judgment call from someone expected to educate the younger generation.

Like I said... it's unrealistic to expect a ten-year-old, even if his own mother told him no, to resist the urge to fit in with the group and "society."
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
If everyone just did their part, we'd be unstoppable.

The first thing we need to fix here is students staying in the same school group for eight years straight...

We should rotate classes every two years. It would prevent those toxic little cliques from forming, and honestly, it would make life much easier for teachers. They wouldn't have to deal with the same parents and students year after year.

And homeroom teachers? They should switch up every single year.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
BlackLotus;37133761@ said:Laura, I honestly think it’s time to teach your kid not to borrow money from others. Growing up in the States, my friends and I used to scrape together pennies just to buy bread, so the idea of borrowing never even crossed my mind. He's old enough to get how this works. If he really wanted food at McDonald's, $7.50 for a burger would have been plenty, rather than $7.00, especially since he knows Mom isn't working right now. He's not five years old.

josh once said, the kid didn't actually ask for money; the teacher just decided on her own to hand it over.

When someone gives you something without being asked, that's a gift.

Expecting a ten-year-old who just wants to fit in with his friends to turn down money is unrealistic. Honestly, reading comments about how a kid who lacks something should act like some perfect xyz makes me sick. But whatever.

She gave him the money for a Happy Meal, and now she’s looking for a gift in return.

Since he won't talk to his mother, she's trying to pass lessons through him instead. Mom made a bad call by not sending the money with him due to her own issues, and she should have just gone to talk to him herself.

Basically, adults messed up again. Typical.

It would be interesting to hear the other side of this.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
This whole discussion really shows what our society and school system are up to lately.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Kate Cox2 said:Oh, absolutely. That kind of thing happens in the staff lounge on a daily basis... 🤦
you probably just happened to stumble upon one of those rare times, maybe four or five times a year, when someone is celebrating something and decides to treat the whole department...

I remember those exact patterns, Joshua Parker11, back when I was in school. You knew exactly which teachers were going to be late. It wasn't even a surprise. They were consistently late. They just didn't care about the school, the kids, or the profession at all.

I can't wrap my head around it today. I wouldn't tolerate that behavior. My kid is lucky to have a teacher who actually stays in the classroom until the very last student heads home. Someone who takes the time to say goodbye to every single child individually.

Now, I see it as a total lack of respect—for the students, for education, and for the job itself.

Of course, life happens. There are legitimate reasons why someone might be late once in a blue moon. We've all been there.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Eric Rogers17 said:Seriously, that teacher is a total weirdo. Since when do you lend money to a ten-year-old? You’re basically handing cash to a mom who isn't even there and definitely didn't agree to the loan.
By trying to claw that money back now, she just completely trashed whatever good intentions she supposedly had.

Exactly...

It's like her moral compass is spinning in circles.

If she's having trouble talking to the mother, you don't go through the kid. That's just shady.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Jesse Flores842 said:No, hold on—where exactly did I say that?
I was responding specifically to your point about the kid pulling on his teacher’s sleeve to get cash. She didn't just hand him money (which is what the headline implies, by the way). She explicitly stated she was *lending* it to him and expected it back tomorrow. Now, why would she do that?
Why would a woman—someone who is fully aware of this family's situation, someone who actually contacted social services to get them help, and someone who clearly isn't some heartless jerk—insist on being paid back?
That is my point.
As far as I can see, the kid just got caught up in a "situation" between a parent and a teacher through no fault of his own, and things spiraled out of control because of nothing more than a massive game of telephone.


So basically, if I pull you aside, hand you cash, and tell you straight up it's a loan, and then you never even mention it or ask about it...

If she was "lending" it to protect him from bullies, then she shouldn't be asking for it back. It was a kind gesture. The kid never asked for a gift or a loan in the first place.

If she's sending "life lessons" to the mom, I'd be the first one to fire her. It's just not decent or moral to settle disputes with a parent by using a child as a messenger. It's totally unprofessional.

Sorry... but she basically overstepped by making decisions that aren't hers to make.

Either she should have just given it as a gift and kept quiet, or she shouldn't have given it at all. What she did was a complete mess.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Anthony Gray said:If you ask me, you should have just gone to the school yourself to talk to the teacher—ask her nicely, or maybe give her a little heads-up, to actually notify parents about planned activities ahead of time next time. As it stands, you haven't really achieved anything here; you've just let the whole situation spiral in the wrong direction.

winnerica thinks that if the kid truly understood the concept of "no" and "not happening," he wouldn't have taken the cash in the first place—because he'd know Mom isn't going to cough up even that measly twenty bucks.

Seriously... you guys are totally overestimating a ten-year-old. I honestly don't get you all..

The teacher gives him her own money (it's a gift, he didn't ask for it) and he's just happy because he can finally be like everyone else and buy that damn Happy Meal... and apparently, he was supposed to "know better"...

I really hope your kids never have to "know better." That would be just cruel.

So sad.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Jesse Flores842 said:One could also argue—and I say this with all due conviction—that the kid really shouldn't have touched that money in the first place. 🤷

I couldn't agree more—I am signing my name to this wholeheartedly.

I’ve been reading through this—very carefully—once again.
The teacher was fully aware of what they were going through—she was incredibly kind and compassionate about the whole situation—and she made sure to welcome them into the classroom with open arms.
There are five other kids in the class who take turns getting those free field trips—you know, how it goes, someone else gets picked every single time.
Look, let's be real here—that teacher is fully aware of what those families are going through. She knows firsthand that money is a massive issue for them.
So, what exactly is the issue then—why on earth does he insist on... $7.00 ?

Are you kidding me? You're basically blaming a child for accepting cash from a teacher who handed it to him as a gift.

You're expecting a ten-year-old to show more responsibility than an adult, let alone his own teacher.

Setting aside motives and good intentions or whatever stigma people want to attach to this...

The teacher gave the little guy money he didn't even ask for. She offered it as a gift. When someone gives you something unprompted, that's a gift.

And now she wants that gift back.

That's the part that really sticks out to me.
Elementary school teachers in Students & Teens ·
Kids only ask for McDonald's because they know they can eventually talk their parents into it. Once the answer is a firm "no," suddenly the hype dies down. I remember when kids used to head out on field trips with simple packed lunches from home and nobody ever complained. It seems like bringing a sandwich and a juice box isn't considered cool anymore—not really for the kids, but mostly for the parents.