Posts by Jason Johnson4

Ahu, you’re just spinning your wheels writing all this stuff.

God/self is ONE.
Not something that happens after you synthesize things, but something that exists before you even start analyzing or breaking things down.

Amen 🙂

FW, man, you're really reaching for something that just isn't there. If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense.

Honestly, you're being about as ridiculous as a punchline in one of those old Joe jokes. 😬 😉

So, a coworker of mine—who’s actually a member of JUSZH—was telling me this wild story about the time they were transporting some of Spamijijev's books. Apparently, because it was pouring rain, someone made the mistake of opening one of the books and resting it face-down on top of the pile. People there absolutely lost their minds 😲 just because His 🙏 image was right there on the cover, and they felt it was pure blasphemy to let the rain fall on the face of the "guru" 😁

Man, life is weird... 🙄

Mano said:just slap that idiot since he didn't hand it over to me...

🙄

Karen Sanchez19, you really just poked a massive, world-sized cow 🤣 😁

adriatic said:

You’ve said that twice now, and then you go and say it a third time in the quote. 👎
It isn't even about philosophy; it's just bad (if such a thing as "good" even exists, 😕 ) theology
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Since Christian theology is basically the default setting here in America, I should probably point out that the Bible doesn't actually make a distinction between the body and the soul (soul equals body). It’s only in those later, overly popular interpretations—usually from people who didn't grasp a single thing—that this whole "holy trinity" of spirit-soul-body comes up. And that leads us right to that famous nonsense:
"Man has an immortal soul"😁

As A. Einstein once put it: Stupidity is the only thing that's infinite. 😉

I honestly couldn't care less about any of this, adriatic. Neither Einstein nor these pseudo-theological philosophies interest me.
But hey, I'm glad you're "here," because I've got something for you too. 😉 👋

Ahu Soph Nia said:Look, this isn't some high-minded philosophical debate; it’s more like a mystical sermon. Honestly, anyone trying to argue with a mystic is probably just losing their mind.😍 🤣

Well, if the "mystic" is out of their mind, then I think we've already settled the matter.🙄 😁

Karen Sanchez19 said:nothingness itself..

I really want to tell hollowtrucker that even if you try to put a label on it, calling it "that" is just... well, it’s unnameable, isn't it?

So, honestly, hollowtrucker, you can drop all those deep theories😁 about whether God is above us, below us, up there, down there, or what the hell constitutes a soul versus a spirit and all that jazz.
In most cases, you can just merge your entire consciousness into the Absolute, or God, or the Self, whatever you want to call it.😁

But hey, if you "DON'T FEEL LIKE" getting all philosophical, then those distinctions don't matter and you don't even need them.😁

😉

hollowtrucker said:Basically, what they're getting at is that you aren't going to just stumble upon the Absolute on your own, mostly because the Absolute doesn't really have any distinct features or shapes you can just point to with your finger.

The "I AM" is the absolute, you chief of clouded eyes.🙂

Ownership, Karen Sanchez19 😉

hollowtrucker said:There’s really no point in letting words muddy the waters.

If you actually take the time to sit down and read through my posts, you'll see I'm not contradicting myself at all.

What Sarma is getting at is this: even though the soul is eternal, it can't just exist in a vacuum. The soul manifests through the Spirit, and God manifests through both the Soul and the Spirit according to His own will.
God is the one thing that doesn't rely on the Spirit or the Soul. But the Soul? It’s dependent on God.
The Soul might even find a way to become independent of the Spirit, but the Spirit can never be independent of God.

Ahu, just keep doing your thing. There is nothing else out there besides the ETERNAL OWNERSHIP.

You can try selling that philosophy to someone else, but it won't work on me.😉

Dammit, those links are broken up there 🙂

This comes from a student of Ramanin named Sarma 🤣 though he was posting under the handle "WHO?" 😉

hollowtrucker said:The soul is the essence of man. Spirit is the essence of the universe. God is the essence.

So, does that mean there’s more than one essence? 😬

If God is the essence, then you can't really have multiple essences (like a human essence or a universal one...), right?

"This shows us that what we call the soul is actually just the ego. It's this weird byproduct created when two things try to merge that don't actually belong together—mostly because one of them, the body, isn't even truly 'there' in the way we think; it's essentially a mental construct. You can't have a real blend unless both parts are real. The Sage explains that mixing these two is like a bachelor getting married in a dream. In the dream, he's a real guy, but his bride isn't. When he wakes up, he realizes he's still just a bachelor, plain and simple. From this, we see that true Ownership—which is Reality—never actually became limited. It never actually turned into a 'soul' or some tiny little fragment of self. It was never truly wedded to the body. In this light, it becomes clear that the individual soul doesn't actually exist in any real sense. Any questions about the soul are kind of moot because they're built on the assumption that it exists in the first place. There is only one true Ownership, pure Consciousness, which exists outside of time. "

"The real point of this teaching is that, even though the soul isn't its own separate thing, there is an element of reality within it—that spark of conscious light that flows from the true Ownership, which we experience as 'I am.' This light doesn't actually belong to the soul; it belongs to Ownership, to Reality. That's why it has to be surrendered to Him. Once that surrender is complete, only Ownership remains. And if individuality is lost that way, it's lost to the ultimate thing.
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These quotes come from: "WHO?" - Mah Yoga - THE UPANISHAD LEGACY IN THE LIGHT OF THE TEACHINGS OF BHAGAVAN SRI RAMANIN (Chapter VI - Soul)

http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/downloads/maha_yoga.zip
http://www.geocities.com/sinkronicitet/maha_yoga.html

hollowtrucker said:Playing philosopher is the easy part.
The Absolute takes on absolute forms and absolute labels.

Ahu, what even is your brand of philosophy? Is it just total nonsense? 😬 😘 🙄

hollowtrucker said:From a spiritual perspective, these three things are essentially one and the same, even if there are subtle distinctions.

Alright then, I’ll give it my best shot:

The soul is what breathes life into a living being.

Spirit is what animates the entire universe.

And all of this is made possible by God.

God is the master of both soul and spirit.

Let me run it by you again, Ana:

Is a living being part of the universe?

Of course it is.

So, if the soul animates a living being, and the spirit animates the universe—doesn't that mean the spirit also animates the living being (since it's part of that universe)? 😁

Can we even really talk about these two as separate entities at all?

And then, on top of all that, there's God.😁 🙏 🙄

Dragan said:Only things that haven't manifested yet could be classified as immaterial.

Honestly, using terms like "spirit" or "soul" feels like such a clumsy way to try and pin down that unmanifested, immaterial essence.🙂

Heart, soul, and spirit—they’re all one and the same, Tyler Scott3.
If you look at it through different lenses... 😎

hollowtrucker said:The soul is paramatman and the spirit is parabrahman.

So, what's the actual difference there?

What on earth are you talking about, Brenda Cook4?
The Bible? 😁

Can even modern, civilized folks actually wrap their heads around a simple problem... Mr. Zindler? 🙄

There isn't a single MP3 to be found in the download section 😬