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Star Wars vs. Star Trek in Movies ·
I personally believe Kirk would defeat Darth Vader instantly. My reasoning is simple: Darth Vader is both unsightly and malicious, whereas Kirk is just fundamentally cool. If Darth Vader approached him, Kirk would probably just laugh and tell him, "Hey, Darth, I'm going to beat you like a stray cat." Then, Darth would try some sort of dark magic, but Spock would step in and insist, "No, no, that’s impossible; it defies all logic." At that point, Kirk would simply rip off his shirt—because we all know he fights significantly better once his shirt is gone. Don't test me on this; why else does he always seem to lose every fight until someone tears his shirt? Once that happens, he goes absolutely ballistic and dispatches his opponent like a kitten. After defeating Darth, Kirk would stare into the camera with those beautiful eyes, heavily accented with eyeshadow, looking like he hasn't slept in a week, before delivering a grand speech about truth and justice.

casualotter21, 7 years ago, in the assignment "Spring in my city"
Quote : Originally posted by Adam Wright56
The overall vampire vibe... I mean, it’s fine, I suppose. It all falls under that "vampire folklore" umbrella you mentioned, but those scenes where a vampire is running away from garlic, crosses, or mirrors just don't carry the same weight.

Fine, I'll take the garlic... that’s truly grotesque. But a crisis? Why would that be an issue? As vampires, they are essentially evil beings aligned with Satan, indulging in every physical pleasure imaginable and sacrificing their immortal souls just to secure an immortal body, and so on. Personally, I find that concept perfectly acceptable.

While the point about physical strength holds up, she looked nothing like a slayer... she didn't even have any weapons or anything. If you want to see what actual gear looks like, check out "Hellsing."

Well, damn, I’ve heard about that, but I haven't actually sat down to watch it. My experience is limited to Carpenter's Vampires, which at least offered a few entertaining touches.

Quote : Originally posted by Chloe Patel65
Hold on... I'm not talking about how well vampires are portrayed in one specific movie here. I’m making a comparison between "then and now." Essentially, I mean all the films released prior to From Dusk Till Dawn, assuming that was the first film to introduce us to the "modern" vampire.
That’s precisely where the issue lies... don't most of the classic vampire films revolve around Dracula? Correct me if I am wrong, as my memory isn't perfect, but as far as I can tell, those are the ones that truly dominate the genre.

Personally, I find the vampires from Beverly Hills to be far more terrifying than, say, Blade. 😁 😛 And you probably already know what a total piece of trash that movie is.

I haven't seen it, but if he really is that kind of man, I can only imagine. Oh, wait—now I remember my favorite Lister moment from Red Dwarf.
Something like "The return of the bikini-clad vampire surfer," or some such nonsense.

I honestly think everyone is leaning too hard on that tired trope of using a wrinkled, haggard face to try and scare us, which is, in my humble opinion, just poor filmmaking.

It’s true, it really is... though I can't say I'm particularly surprised. I don't know how things used to be, but it seems like the average horror flick nowadays is cooked up specifically for teenagers rather than adults. Kids, naturally, aren't interested in watching some old gentleman with a pleasant voice wearing a fancy suit; they'd find it dreadfully dull. They want blood, action, more blood, and grotesque monsters... and Hollywood is more than happy to serve it up on a silver platter.

Tell me, did you actually find any modern vampire film truly terrifying, or at least one that managed to conjure even a hint of a "mini-horror" vibe?

To be fair, I haven't really had much to compare them against... I watched Bram Stoker's Dracula, which was fine, though it didn't quite hit that horror note for me. I skipped From Dusk Till Dawn because it felt a bit too sleazy, and while Interview with a Vampire has its merits, it's not my cup of tea either. As for Blade, it’s more of a fantasy action flick than actual horror, so it doesn't really count in that category. Other titles that come to mind include Blood: The Last Vampire, but I haven't seen Blade 2, and I have absolutely no intention of sitting through Queen of the Damned. I suppose that's about the extent of my vampire cinema expertise.
lonescout2 said:Come on, give me a few; I'm actually quite interested in the feats for Buffy.

What does she LACK? Well, since she's the lead in the series... as my friend would say in his best ninja impression: "Their special trait is winning a campaign once a day."

But that's a fair point... Let's just try to approximate it collectively...

The vampire Slayer Prestige Class Requirements to qualify
Prestige Class
Requirements
To qualify to become a vampire Slayer, a character must fulfill the following criteria.
base Attack bonus: +5.
Skills: Tumble (10 ranks), Perform (Oh-so-witty remarks) (6 ranks)
Feats: Dodge, Weapon Focus (stakes), Endurance, Lightning Reflexes, Power Attack, Expertise
Special: must be at least 16 years old; must have saved the world from an apocalypse at least once.

apocalypse Class Information hit die : 1 d10 Class Skills The vampire Slayer's class skills ( and The Key ability for each skill ) are : Balance
Hit Die: 1d10

Class Skills
The vampire Slayer's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are: Balance (Dex), Escape artist (Dex), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Knowledge (popular culture) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Perform (improvised banter) (Cha), Profession (Wis), Sense motiv (Wis), Spot (Wis), Tumble (Dex).

Skill points AT Each level: 3 + Int modifier.

I can't be bothered to write out the progression for Fortitude, Reflex, and Will saves... Excellent Fortitude Save, very good Reflex Save, and the Will saves are the worst.

Special abilities of the vampire Slayer prestige class:
1. Unarmed strike (1d6 + str Modifier damage); random Witticism 1 per day; bonus feat
2. Leadership (1d6 Sunnydale overachievers; which is why we grant this so early)
3. Charisma (not Carpenter) Modifier to AC, random Witticism 2 per day; bonus feat
4. Unarmed strike (1d8 + str mod)
5. Permanent tan (starting from season four, I believe), random Witticism 3 per day; bonus feat (honestly, she's the protagonist; she gets feats whenever she feels like it!)

...

I'm fresh out of ideas....
Quote : Originally posted by Adam Wright56

That concept is absolute nonsense. It doesn't add anything to the atmosphere... except for that bit with the mirror.

Atmosphere? Are you referring to the vibe of Buffy or just the general atmosphere found in vampire films? Regarding the former: the point is that Buffy was never actually intended to create a sense of horror. The entire series is essentially just one big parody of horror movies.
Regarding what constitutes an AUTHENTIC atmosphere, well, the elements I mentioned *ARE* core components of a true vampire setting. It’s all part of the established folklore: garlic, sunlight, crossing running water, the inability to enter a home without an invitation, crucifixes, mirrors, and shapeshifting into various animals. Honestly, much of this stems from Stoker's Dracula, and we know Stoker drew his inspiration for vampires from old European medieval legends. You simply can't get more immersed in the mood than that.

That’s just one more thing that gets under my skin... Buffy is nothing more than an ordinary girl... or at least, she doesn't display any capabilities that set her apart from anyone else.

Wait... just how many episodes of Buffy have you actually watched? She possesses supernatural strength, incredible reflexes, and a massive Constitution (for those who don't play D&D: that means she can slam someone into a wall hard enough to shatter them like a large Spaniel, only to pop right back up and keep fighting) plus a list of D&D Feats that would take at least three lines just to scratch the surface.

Quote : Originally posted by Chloe Patel65
You make a fair point... Not everyone needs to be like Count Dracula. But when it comes down to it, their whole vibe is just "too touchy-feely."
Quote : Originally posted by Chloe Patel65 Alright, here I go again. I'm curious which specific films you think actually do a decent job of portraying vampires in general, besides Interview with the Vampire?

Al,

As you’ve already pointed out... things are reaching a breaking point. I find myself still wondering how and why this is happening. That is to say, I am curious if any of you have an actual opinion on the matter.

It’s an attempt to break away from tradition. The goal is to craft a vampire that doesn't immediately trigger a laugh from the audience because they see nothing more than a cheap Bela Lugosi ripoff. Let's face it: portraying a modern vampire draped in a black cloak with a high collar isn't terrifying anymore—it's just comical. Times change, audiences evolve, and tastes shift, yet Hollywood remains obsessed with nothing more than providing cheap, easy thrills for the masses. Stoker wrote Dracula for a somewhat educated crowd—people wealthy or idle enough to dedicate themselves to a 500-page novel. For today's cinematic version of Dracula, you don't even need to speak English to follow along.
Adam Wright56 said:I’m not entirely sure if this thread belongs here or in the TV section, but there seems to be more of a crowd here, and film knowledge is definitely relevant.

Anyway... here is something I was debating with a friend last night while we were watching Buffy. (I wasn't really paying close attention; I don't typically follow it).

Naturally. And I also accidentally typed "asian + free + teen + lesbian + pr0n" into Google. My fingers just slipped on the keyboard... Yes, that is exactly what happened. 😁

There is no need to feel embarrassed about watching Buffy! We are only human! We all have our weaknesses!

I was just commenting on how they have "trivialized" the appearance of vampires. It used to be that the mere presence of these creatures would give me chills, but now I either die laughing or find it so pathetic that I just change the channel.

I don't know, it's a matter of taste, but honestly, vampires have always been like this to me. I mean, I can't stand that whole "Oh, how beautiful they are... yet so dangerous... so lovely... but oh, so deadly... such an intense blend of Eros and Thanatos!" melodrama. If it's done in small doses or with a certain sense of style—like in Interview with the Vampire or Bram Stoker's Dracula, which I find pleasantly over-the-top in a Gothic-romantic way—then it works for me. Otherwise, it's just a pain in the ass.

My biggest complaint is their look... they all have those "wrinkled," almost snake-like faces when they go into "vampire mode," and I'm curious as to when that specific aesthetic became the standard for vampires.

Yes, I find that quite silly too. I think the whole point of a vampire is that they should be elegant, stylish, graceful, sexy, and charismatic... On one hand, they possess everything that we mere mortals (and yes, the wordplay is intentional 😁) desire, yet they pay a passionate price for it. They shouldn't just be your run-of-the-mill monsters under the bed.
Speaking of which, that is precisely why I dislike Rice's vampires: it feels like they get far too much for far too little.
Advantages: eternal life, superhuman strength, superhuman charisma, superhuman intelligence, superhuman fashion sense, etc., etc., etc.
Disadvantages: you have to drink blood and hide from the sun.

So, what happened to Dracul's Achilles' heel? He couldn't cross running water, see his reflection, enter a home without an invitation (if I recall correctly), and so on... if nothing else, Buffy stays fairly true to that concept.

By the way, I know that in the movie Lost Boys by Schumacher (or whatever that idiot's name is who gave us Batman three and four), vampires are depicted in the style of FDTD: basically just a bunch of common thugs who happen to be vampires and look terrifying once they "turn."

There is also the fact that lately, vampires have become very "stupid"... it's as if they are being equated with zombies....

Those zombies must be loving this. Cursed zombies and their endless propaganda!

As if any girl could just take them on.

Not just any girl! There's a reason she's called "Buffy the vampire Slayer"!

It feels a bit lazy to me... not to mention the clichés. It might pass for a TV show since they lean into the melodrama, but we have a whole library of movies where they all look identical (like Blade, for instance).

Perhaps people simply haven't seen enough older vampire films to actually understand what a proper cinematic appearance should look like.

Actually, I suspect that is precisely where the issue lies. How *should* vampires look? If every single vampire looks and acts exactly like Dracula—with that ridiculous accent, the sharp wardrobe, and his specific powers—then they aren't really distinct characters; they're just clones. I agree that FDTD takes things to an extreme, but one really ought to create some semblance of distance from tradition, don't you think? In fact, which films come to mind when you imagine vampires who actually look like the real deal? Mind you, I am referring to films that do *not* feature Dracula himself.