driftinggull13, hey, maybe come back down to earth for a second. You’re posting like you’ve swallowed 😁
driftinggull13 said:Mavrovič's land is relatively small, and it's surrounded by farms that use pesticides and all sorts of other chemicals. Do you honestly think those same substances don't end up on Mavrovič's land through the water and air? Besides, I doubt all that production actually comes from his properties; he produces too much, and without using protective sprays and synthetic fertilizers, the yields would be way lower (since people use those things specifically to boost yields). From what I can tell, the difference is mostly just him grinding up a bunch of husks and mixing different grains together.
I see you're also an expert on organic farming, I guess. It seems like everyone in that field is either a fool or just exploiting the naivety of people who believe this kind of food is actually better for them. Maybe try convincing the people who have managed to escape illnesses—which even those know-it-all doctors and nutritionists couldn't solve—through things like macrobiotics or "non-existent" ways of balancing bodily processes and energy.
Furthermore, regarding the land, I doubt Mavrovič and the others involved haven't thought about this. What if the land is elevated compared to the neighbors, or if there's some other system in place to protect against what you mentioned? Even if none of that is true, it's still not the same as using chemicals at regular intervals versus whatever amount eventually drifts over indirectly. Plus, runoff doesn't just move horizontally; it moves vertically. Gravity plays a part in that, too.
driftinggull13 said:Bringing the body into balance????? Give me a break. An organism is in balance because if it wasn't, you'd be six feet under. Do you really think the systems for detoxification, digestion, or "cleansing" are just waiting for you to remember to eat less, drink more water, or stick to greens or......???? Pure New Age nonsense. Recommendation for reading (for the umpteenth time): Guyton: Physiology. I promise there would be a lot less fluff about "balance," especially regarding passive and active transport.
Maybe it wouldn't hurt you to brush up on your knowledge and expand it a little.
Just a little note on your somewhat limited understanding of homeostasis; take a long-term smoker, for instance. Do you think there aren't substances in those lungs that shouldn't be there? And there are such smokers—people who seem healthy without any obvious symptoms. Is that entire organism in homeostasis? No, it isn't. While one part is, another, smaller part definitely isn't—can you guess which? This is where cellular adaptation and compensation mechanisms kick in. These processes are reversible up to a certain point, but after a certain stage, they aren't. Assuming the changes in this smoker are reversible, once they stop taking in toxins, they'll be excreted with extra energy expenditure. So, you need to stop the intake of toxins and help the body return its systems, organs, or cells back to homeostasis. Fasting and a diet free of additional unnecessary (not to mention toxic) substances helps this whole process run faster and smoother.
driftinggull13 said:By the way, they're missing facilitated transport too (that’s the third type).
Yeah, yeah, very important to insult the person you're talking to. I'm sure you feel much smarter now.
If you hadn't noticed, I put in parentheses that I was talking about a broad classification.
Here, let me just throw some nonsense out there too: you've got passive transport, which is diffusion, then you have facilitated diffusion, then osmosis, then active transport, exocytosis, endocytosis... is anyone actually smarter than this guy???
driftinggull13 said:A negligible amount of energy is used for transport, whereas a much, much larger amount is used for digestion.
I've read that active transport of substances within a cell consumes more energy than any other process in the cell. Some smart guy from Stanford wrote that. Maybe he doesn't know, who knows?
driftinggull13 said:The carbohydrate from Mavrovič's bread will use the same amount of energy as the carbohydrate from Claire's white bread because it doesn't depend on where it's from, but what kind of compound it is, and the breakdown method for those types of compounds has a specific energy level (chemical reactions).
It isn't just about carbohydrates. It's also about other micronutrients without which homeostasis can't exist. And fiber. And hey, who knows, maybe it's all just New Age shit. And I don't just mean Mavrovič's bread here, but other foods too.
And as for those self-proclaimed nutritionists who think they know everything, and those who so cheerfully cite Guyton—in that lovely Guyton textbook, in many places, it says: "it is not precisely known...", "it is not certain...", "it is assumed..." and in various other medical books, it nicely states: "cause unknown...", "still unknown..." And now someone comes along trying to present things as if you should just ask nutritionists and stuff, like they know it all. And anything else they don't know is just New Age shit. Screw that kind of rhetoric.
The chapter on metabolism and the human body is still nowhere near being finished. Of course, I'm not dismissing what we already know, but you have to be open to new things!
One more thing about nutritionists. Just GOOGLE the famous "food pyramid" and see how many conflicting opinions there are regarding its accuracy and effects. That should tell you enough about their competence. No offense intended. I'm not implying anything; let everyone draw their own conclusions. 😁 😁 😁
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