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Side effects of protein supplements? Specifically the "artificial" ones

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Participants Karen Garcia5silentorca492George Bailey2casualnomad42dustycanyon6driftingorca9stormyotter67shadowgardener12jadesailor14Frank Alvarez8Kenneth Price8Walter Moore4Jose Miller3rustymoose54Robin Rodriguez5
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1 ·
Hey 👋

I'm thinking about hitting the gym, so I have a question. A friend of mine is big on protein supplements and swears by them. It shows, too—he's definitely put on some muscle after about 9 months of training.

My mom's been nagging me that it isn't healthy, but she hasn't really given me a specific reason why. So, I'm wondering if anyone knows what the actual health consequences of using protein powder might be, if there even are any. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate the insight. 😉

For context, I'm 16, 5'11", and about 165 lbs.😉

Thanks 👋
silentorca492 silentorca492 Newcomer
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#2 ·
There aren't any side effects to worry about here. At the end of the day, protein is protein, regardless of where it comes from.
In fact, using protein powders can actually be better than just eating meat because you aren't loading up on cholesterol or purines. They digest much faster, so the nutrients hit your bloodstream quickly. If you're looking for the best, stick with whey protein.
Go ahead and use them, just don't make them your entire diet.
Check out this link if you want to dig into the details.

http://www.bbfaq.tk/
George Bailey2 George Bailey2 Member
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#3 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said: I'm trying to figure out if there are any actual health consequences to consuming protein supplements. If anyone actually knows the deal, I'd appreciate the insight. 😉

Did you and your mother ever bother to sit through a single biology class during all those years of schooling?
By the way, what’s Mom’s take on the side effects of protein?
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 Member
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joined Jul 2005
#4 ·
silentorca492 said:Whey protein is definitely the way to go.

Look, I can see you’ve clearly done your homework regarding nutrition—really—but I have to offer one correction, or maybe just a question (if you wouldn't mind sharing a more specific take on this).

From what I understand, soy proteins are actually superior—soy doesn't have any fat at all, whereas whey protein does... well, it has some. Though, I guess people talk about mixing soy and whey together quite a bit, though I don't really know the specifics of how that works... 🙂
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#5 ·
silentorca492 said:At the end of the day, protein is protein, regardless of where you get it from.
Even those pre-made protein powders actually have an edge over traditional meat since you aren't loading up on cholesterol, purines, or other nasty stuff... they digest fast and hit your bloodstream quickly. Honestly, whey protein is the gold standard.

Does anyone know if there are any of those ready-to-go proteins for shakes that are lactose-free? Some of us handle lactose pretty poorly... basically, we steer clear of milk and dairy entirely, maybe just a tiny bit of cheese here and there...
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 MemberOP
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#6 ·
dustycanyon6 said:(So they aren't really eating milk or dairy—maybe just a bit of cheese now and then)?

Wait, why? I might have similar issues here. 😁 For instance, if you'll excuse the phrasing, I pretty much crap myself if I drink milk. 😁
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 MemberOP
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#7 ·
George Bailey2 said:Did you and your mom ever actually sit through a biology class during all those years of school?
btw. What’s Mom saying about protein side effects?

Look, it's all just chemistry. It isn't natural (I guess). I'm asking because I honestly don't know. 😉
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 Member
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joined Jul 2005
#8 ·
dustycanyon6 said:Does anyone know if there are any ready-to-go protein powders (for shakes) that are lactose-free? Some of us can't handle lactose worth a damn—meaning we don't touch milk or dairy at all, maybe a little cheese here and there, if we're lucky.

Honestly, you can just mix your protein with juice or whatever—so anyone dealing with lactose issues should be totally fine... 🙂

It really just comes down to the flavor, and I guess there are a million different ways to make a recipe work.. 😉
George Bailey2 George Bailey2 Member
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#9 ·
Hummer / Mayo said:I can see you’ve really done your homework on nutrition, but I have one correction—or maybe just a question (if you could share your more specific take on this).

From what I understand, soy proteins are superior since soy doesn't have any fat at all, whereas whey protein does... though people often talk about mixing soy and whey together, but I don't know the specifics of how that works.. 🙂

Two statements here are just plain wrong:
1. Whey is better than soy simply because it has a superior amino acid profile.
2. Whey (whey protein) doesn't have fat and physically cannot have fat. Whey proteins are proteins ISOLATED from whey, which means everything else has been stripped away—including the fats.
George Bailey2 George Bailey2 Member
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#10 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:Look, it’s all just chemicals, right? It’s not natural (I guess). I’m asking because I honestly don't know. 😉

Proteins aren't "chemicals" in some scary sense—they are completely natural. In fact, if you weren't consuming proteins every single day (which, clearly, you aren't even aware you're doing), you wouldn't be able to stay alive.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but it seems to me like you and your mom have totally confused proteins with steroids.
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 MemberOP
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#11 ·
George Bailey2 said:Proteins aren't chemicals; they're completely natural. In fact, if you weren't eating proteins every single day (clearly you don't realize you're consuming them), you wouldn't even be alive.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you and your mom have confused proteins with steroids.

I know I consume them, but I didn't realize the stuff you take as a "supplement" (whey) was considered natural. 😉

Anyway, thanks for the input. 😉
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#12 ·
Hummer / Mayo said:You can just mix protein with juice, so if anyone’s struggling with lactose, they’re totally fine... 🙂

It really just comes down to how it tastes, and there are a million different recipes out there... 😉

To be honest, I wasn't even thinking about what to mix it with, I was just wondering if they have lactose in them by themselves—so they don't—thanks.
driftingorca9 driftingorca9 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2004
#13 ·
[QUOTE]George Bailey2 says:

2. Whey proteins don't have, and can't have, any fat. Since whey isolates are processed to strip away everything else, the fats are gone. [/QUOTE

I’ve never actually used protein supplements myself, but I’ve been looking into it and read somewhere that there's no such thing as a fat-free protein.[/QUOTE]
stormyotter67 stormyotter67 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#14 ·
From what I’ve gathered while digging through the information shared by silentorca492, it appears that roughly 80% of that powder consists of pure protein, with everything else just being filler. Given that this is currently sitting as the gold standard on the market, it seems we haven't truly encountered a protein supplement that is completely stripped of fats and other additives yet.
George Bailey2 George Bailey2 Member
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#15 ·
stormyotter67 said:From what I’ve gathered reading the page that silentorca492 posted, about 80% of that powder is straight protein, and everything else is just filler. As far as I can tell, it's currently the best thing on the market because you won't find a protein supplement this clean without extra fats and junk mixed in.

Here is the whey I use:
(check out the ingredients)
One serving only has 1.5 grams of fat. Honestly, I don't think anyone needs to sweat that number.
Any decent quality whey is going to have less than 3.5 grams of fat, which is practically nothing.
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 MemberOP
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#16 ·
By the way. How much cash are we talking about here?
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 Member
44 messages
joined Jul 2005
#17 ·
George Bailey2 said:I use this whey:
(check out the ingredients)
one serving has just 1.5 grams of fat—honestly, I don't think that's even worth worrying about.
Any decent quality whey usually has less than 3.5 grams of fat, which is negligible, really.

Alright, fine, I see what it says here:
- Serving size: 1 scoop (~29g)
Amount per serving
- Protein: 23g

Which means if you do the math, there's only 79 grams of protein per 100g... 😕

Saturated fat: 0.5g
Cholesterol: 5mg
Sugar: 1g

If you're actually hunting for the absolute best protein, then you should be looking for:
- saturated fat: 0g (soy doesn't have any saturated fats)
- cholesterol: 0g (obviously)
- sugar: 0g
- bioavailability index—you want that as high as possible, ideally hitting 100 (which is why people mix soy and whey protein, something any nutritionist would tell you if you asked them)
- Protein Efficiency Ratio (P.E.R.) — aim for a max of 2.5

Aminogen is added to protein specifically to improve how well it's absorbed... 🙂

But look, what’s actually important in this whole debate is how much protein an individual actually needs daily. I mean, you need a personalized approach based on someone's body composition and activity level... protein is essential for every living human being every single day, and frankly, it has a massive impact on overall health. 🙂
driftingorca9 driftingorca9 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2004
#18 ·
How much are you guys spending on protein powder, how long does a tub typically last you, and how often are you scooping it?
stormyotter67 stormyotter67 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#19 ·
And just how much actual muscle mass have you managed to put on with all that, George Bailey2? I mean, seriously, how long have you even been consistently using protein supplements?
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#20 ·
Look, here’s the deal. Anything highly concentrated is basically just poison... or at least a massive burden on your system, especially the liver. Why mess with all that artificial junk when you could just go natural and healthy? It's everywhere.

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