Posts by Lawrence Robinson11

William Scott18 said:Yeah... It’s never the right time... Not at 19, and probably not after... Like things just magically get easier as you age... Everyone else is out there falling in love and living their lives, while I'm stuck with nothing...
As if I'm going to find someone at college... Probably not, since everyone there already has experience by the time they're 18 or 19...

Anyway, I don't want to derail this conversation, it's not about me...

Damn, just shut up already. A few months—maybe a year ago—you were insisting you'd absolutely never kiss anyone, and you were talking trash about everyone else who told you to just go for it.

Have you kissed someone? Yes, you have.

So, just zip it.

Brandon Castillo4 said:God, you people are absolutely delusional. It’s just endless generalizations, fake news, and nothing but gossip.

Honestly, if you swapped out "doctor" for "priest" and moved this thread over to a religious subforum, you’d find the exact same garbage.

It's always the same story—everyone is "corrupt, drunks, predators, criminals, or uneducated." And whenever anyone points out a legitimate flaw, they get hit with that tired old cliché about "respecting the exceptions."

Most of you haven't seen a lick of the real world; you're just sitting there pointing fingers from your couches. You aren't real people.

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Exactly. That's pretty much what I was trying to get at.

Bravo! 😘

Paul Phillips3 said:I’m still wondering... please don't tell me none of you have ever been in a situation where doctors basically demanded money—either straight up or through some roundabout way—just to treat someone with a shred of dignity or provide actual medical care?

Me too!! My dad was dying from cancer, Stage 4 by the time they found it... he couldn't even handle chemo anymore. It was pretty much over. They just sent him home. Then, this doctor just casually took $200 from us and didn't do a single thing to help. ☕

Paul Phillips3 said:First off, sorry Lahore

I’m quoting myself here just so this future doctor sees I’m not making sweeping generalizations, though I suppose quoting posts is a bit tedious
I really don't like it when people twist my words or try to insert things I didn't say

I am saying there are decent doctors out there who are truly wonderful people—I've been lucky enough to meet them many times in my life—but there are just too many who are the complete opposite.
I have doctors in my family, so I know a little bit about how things work, and honestly, an error like this is a massive oversight. That isn't just something a layperson would say; even experts in the field would agree
I feel terribly for the guy and his family; I can't even begin to imagine what they're going through, and I truly hope I never find myself in a situation like that, nor anyone else for that matter

Yeah, I saw that you said

But still, I think most people carry prejudices, especially when they act the way you're acting right now, basically implying

that all doctors are trash unless they prove otherwise.

To me, that doesn't come as a surprise at all. Of course, when lives are on the line, bitterness runs deep, but there is definitely a vibe like that everywhere. I've felt it since my very first day of college ☕

Anyway, it doesn't really matter anymore. 👋

Brandon Castillo4 said:First off, I feel so bad for the kid. He’s only 20 years old and dealing with complications like this—nearly losing his head, kidney issues, having a leg amputated, then barely saving the other one... honestly, the poor guy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone; it's just a total nightmare.

But look, people, let's not be so quick to judge. A few primitive types are sitting at home with their arms crossed, and now they're making these half-baked, idiotic observations from a distance about how all American doctors are incompetent, underqualified, or poorly trained, and so on...

Only an amateur would make such sweeping statements. It's pretty obvious that the medical profession isn't paid nearly enough to justify the stress, so someone doing this job surely isn't doing it just to "get rich quick" or to work through some personal complex. Please, don't be so malicious.

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Well, thanks. I agree.

Because, no matter how silly it sounds... when I read insults like that while I'm actually studying medicine, it’s incredibly disappointing because it feels like a direct slap in my face too. Whenever I see people writing things like "honor the good doctors," all I really see is broad generalizations and pure hatred.

Basically, there's just a general sense of hatred here, and then it leaves room for some "good" doctor to try and clear their name—instead of it being the other way around.

People, you're insulting everyone in general, not just the ones you've actually met.

Paul Phillips3 said:Look, sweetie, I really hope you don't end up becoming a doctor one day, because honestly, the way you think is just terrifying.
Well, who said anything about killing him!?

I guess you just don't quite grasp the core of the story, and frankly, it seems like you're missing the point of certain words too, but hey, no hard feelings, I suppose. 🙄

It’s truly such a waste of my afternoon, arguing with someone who isn't even fully educated yet and might—who knows?—eventually become a medical professional. ☕

Hmm, yes, well, much to your disappointment, I actually will be a doctor. 🙄

But then again, I have met some truly terrible doctors myself, so to generalize like that... well, it’s at the very least a bit offensive.

Goodbye!

Bat Kol said:p.s. honestly, the medical school in a city like Chicago isn't even breaking the top few hundred globally, so... I mean, the teaching itself is fine, but the whole system is just broken. That's the real issue here.

Of course, it’s not going to be on par with an Ivy League school where they have massive endowments, endless resources, and insane competition, right?

But saying the school is subpar—and by extension, implying our doctors are incompetent—is just nonsense... total nonsense.

Unless, I suppose, someone decides to fail out and retake the same year three times or something like that. But there aren't really many of those geniuses floating around. 😉

Casey Palmer5 said:Consider this a warning. This thread is devolving into bickering again, and if everyone doesn't calm down, I'm going to have to lock it.

Honestly, that’s probably for the best. Just lock it up already.

Besides, this really belongs over in the MEDIA subforum anyway...

Paul Phillips3 said:I'm guessing you're just another imaginary med student

Exactly! And I mean, please, what on earth could possibly lead you to think I’m making this up? Oh, wait, I know. It's because I'm actually studying medicine, right? Ha.

Yeah, back then they were still just babies when they were killed, and no, they didn't have any health issues, and if you find this so incredibly funny, well, I am just so, so sorry for you.
I honestly think the biggest punishment you'll face in this life is just having to live as the person you are, given how completely heartless you've become.

Look, I don't find this funny at all. I have my own share of tragedies, I really do. But that doesn't exactly motivate me to go around broadcasting my trauma and spitting on everything in existence, does it?

You're just a bitter woman.👎

Paul Phillips3 said:Look, I lost my brothers because of incompetent doctors—and I’m talking two brothers, not just one—so I’m asking you, is this some kind of routine mistake that just happens all the time?

Aha. Right. They just murdered your brothers. Yeah, sure. That’s basically the only thing doctors do. I mean, I guess your brothers were perfectly fine until the doctors decided to kill them, right?

I honestly don't care about med students. My sympathy goes to the ones who actually intend to uphold their oath, but as for the rest of them? I wish them nothing but the worst.👎

You're acting like it's an absolute rule that every doctor is just out for a paycheck. We already agreed we aren't going to insult each other on this subforum. Lawrence Robinson11, consider this your first warning. Get it together.
Well, if they were just in it for the money, they wouldn't even bother studying, I suppose. The sheer amount of misery you endure for such low pay later on just wouldn't be worth it. But, I don't know why I'm even bothering to explain this. I won't...

Paul Phillips3 said:I don't even want to start listing all my encounters and experiences with doctors. My mom has been on medical leave for three years and now she's moved over to disability, so I know exactly what I've gone through with her and WITH THEM. These crooks—you just hand over the cash and suddenly everything is fine; you get whatever treatment you want. Of course, along with the money comes the "connections," which are more than welcome. That’s why I'd much rather go to a private clinic and pay up instead of dealing with the public system where you still have to grease palms just to get some basic humanity. Unfortunately, surgeries can't be done in private clinics yet, but once that changes, we are getting away from these 👎

I personally feel like people like this should never practice medicine again.
I wonder how they would act if this happened to their own child, though that might be hard to say since a top-tier doctor who actually gives a damn would probably be looking after their kid anyway.

People like this are exactly why I often lose interest in studying medicine.

You're talking nonsense. Damn politics.

I don't see what's strange about a doctor's child being operated on by a better doctor? WHAT IS SO STRANGE ABOUT THAT?

I haven't heard anyone complaining about the fact that the late Pope John Paul II was cared for by at least six different doctors and a bunch of specialists... that's perfectly normal..

these standards held by the public are insulting to all doctors and students.

Kyle Nelson2 said:this whole thing feels more like a classic case of sensationalist journalism than an actual breakdown in our healthcare system... (not that things are looking great in medicine or anything, I guess)

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That’s exactly it.

Henry Jackson35 said:Look, we regular folks, you know, us mere mortals, actually understand what we're talking about... to us, any kind of surgery feels terrifying and traumatic. And then you have these doctors feeding us this line about it being a "routine procedure," whatever that's supposed to mean. I'm sorry, but we've only ever heard that phrase from them. Every single person who’s used it says the exact same thing: "The doctor told me not to worry, said it was just a routine operation."

Well, I guess the doctor tells you that just to calm your nerves, right? And honestly, a routine thing—like, say, removing an appendix—is obviously nothing compared to brain tumor surgery. But now, you people are clearly taking that term and twisting it in cases like this. It's pretty obvious. I mean, how much work goes into just an appendectomy? I doubt the average person even realizes, which is probably why they feel so comfortable spitting venom like this.

It really is such a tragedy for a young guy. Truly. But the way people go after doctors sometimes is, well, it's a bit unhealthy, isn't it?

Kyle Nelson2 said:but the real question is why you even posted it in the first place; I mean, I'm pretty sure you had similar thoughts when you first laid eyes on it 😬

😲 Me? Oh, goodness no, not me at all 😍

mistyjackal142 said:Honestly, I feel like these replies really don't belong in this subforum, especially not within this specific thread!!

They really do belong... we're just debating whether it's possible that I've been sexually compromised—which basically means being mentally unstable, I suppose—despite being quite intelligent ☕ ... or maybe it's actually the other way around?! 😬

Carol Lopez23 said:There's one thing I just can't wrap my head around... seriously, how on earth could the AORTA be severed??
I mean, either this appendix is positioned in such a weird way (and is just way too long) that it reaches all the way from the back toward the center—meaning right up to the aorta—or we're working with totally wrong information, right?

Usually, the appendix sits in the right inguinal area (or the hypogastrium) and stays retrocecal (behind the cecum) in about 65% of people, or it hangs down in the "descending position" in the small pelvis in maybe 30% of cases.

So, how is it even possible to cut the aorta??!!

Or, I don't know, maybe he had an appendix translocation? 😕
Or maybe it really was just a massive medical error. But honestly, what bugs me most is when people start acting like this only happens here, like American doctors are just incompetent and all that nonsense.
Come on, people, this kind of stuff happens everywhere... and saying American doctors are bad? I mean, I honestly don't know where people even get that idea??

Alex Collins26 said:I know everyone makes mistakes, but honestly, we have way too many unqualified doctors over here 😠, maybe they should tighten up those medical licensing requirements because you really see some total monsters coming out of that system 😁 ...

That’s a bit rude and just plain ignorant, if you ask me.

The medical schools in major cities like Boston or Chicago are top-tier globally, and our doctors are right up there with them.
Mistakes happen everywhere, obviously. Maybe in private practice where people pay more, you get slightly better service, but I truly believe our doctors are world-class in every sense of the word.

Maybe we should actually start sharing news about similar medical mishaps happening overseas, because apparently, we Americans just love to trash our own people without even looking at the full story.

I feel terrible for that guy's boyfriend; I guess any mother would lose her mind and go after every single doctor and administrator if her child or someone she loved lost a limb like that. But honestly, those kinds of tragedies happen all over the map, not just here, despite how much our countrymen love to think otherwise.

Besides, people really ought to educate themselves on what they're talking about—for instance, there is no such thing as a "routine" surgery. Even an appendectomy isn't as trivial as people like to pretend it is.

Kyle Nelson2 said:but 😂

I honestly thought it was something else entirely 😳

I really don't want to start throwing Freud at you or trying to analyze what all this actually means 😁

Kyle Nelson2 said:Aha... I see...
though, honestly, it’s a bit hard for me to get into any serious discussions with you when I'm staring at your avatar😬

...🙂 hm... I wonder... what exactly about a woman's hand on a mouse is such a massive distraction?😍

Taroth said:partially, though I wouldn't say entirely...
I personally don't think there’s a direct line between being forced to overthink at some point in your life and developing psychological issues later on...
well, at least not before considering how self-esteem and one's perception of the world develops during those sensitive years...

...I mean, I suppose self-esteem and how you view the world around you are essentially mirrors of mental health, because if those things are missing, then in most cases, you're dealing with some kind of mental illness.

I'd probably lean toward thinking that, say, depression stems from a deeply rooted sense of abandonment, an ingrained defeatism, or specific situations that triggered that mindset... or maybe even just learned behavioral patterns (since yawning is contagious, and I guess mental illnesses can be too).

And that's pretty much how it works. Almost all mental illnesses stem from a deep-seated feeling of something—on an unconscious level, rooted right into our personality structure... and a learned pattern is basically just part of that personality structure... in a way.🙂

intelligence might just be a byproduct, since someone had to think a bit more deeply and therefore (probably) neglected other aspects of life...
that's why (in my opinion) such people are often not just intelligent, but also somewhat serious or mature... almost as if they had to skip a stage of life...

correct me if I'm wrong.

We mostly agree on this: intelligence, to me, feels like a side effect, because maybe someone had to think more intensely or was under higher levels of stress at some point... but then again, plenty of official "crazy" people are actually geniuses rather than just serious... so I really don't know about the exact ratio... if you are mentally ill, you might actually seem a bit more "alive"... but those are all different manifestations, and things can certainly take a darker turn, etc.!

OkatoZlo said:Did it ever cross your mind to just, I don't know, push back your vacation? 🙄

maybe it isn't possible, I guess... 🙄 honestly, screw you guys, why even bother commenting anyway