Posts by James Newman4

Brenda Lee50 said:James Newman4, you selling plants now?😛

Nah, I'm mostly just moving Coca-Cola around... 😉
I've got some cheap shipments of Coca-Cola on semi-trucks, but I guess I figured out that I probably need to talk trash about something first if I actually want to move any product (instead of just being all positive about it), so hopefully I'm heading in the right direction here.. 😁

ps: Coca-Cola is the best .. 👍 😁

So I ran into mistybear4 earlier and they told me they actually got kicked off this Forum, which, honestly, I kind of figured since I hadn't seen any of their posts popping up lately... though I guess I'm not even really surprised that happened... 😁

Sandra Hayes88, I totally get where you're coming from regarding the whole image thing and how aggressive distributors can be here in the States, but I feel like for the people who actually used the products, that isn't even the main point—their health is what matters most. It’s hard to act all "cool" and detached when you realize you've found something that might actually fix people's health issues. My own enthusiasm was pretty massive too, it's just that, unlike some people, I guess I'm a little better at keeping it under control.

If you're looking for the real deal on what this company is about, maybe don't just look at the small stuff; just open a window to the world—you know, the internet—and you'll find everything from these kinds of "experiences" (link) from unhappy customers to what's actually going on globally right now.

There's a huge difference between saying something is "not bad," "good," or "absolutely amazing," and since this stuff has been at the top of its game for 25 years now (without even needing big media ads), I mean, it suggests it's an exceptional product, but hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I suppose.

I've noticed on this Forum that everyone is always trying to sell or recommend something, and I really don't get why Mac was booted, because he actually dropped a lot of interesting info about health and nutrition along the way (stuff that doesn't even touch on Herbalife itself), and I kind of hope they let him back in soon because his way of "presenting" things and debating with everyone was actually pretty interesting to follow.

Take care.. 👋

shadowgardener12 said:unfortunately, that's just how it goes. i guess it's because Science has this role that everyone just blindly accepts—mostly because people don't actually get how any of it works. it’s kind of become this way for the government to manage all the gullible folks, sort of like how religion used to function. since everything is just too complex for people who only learn about products from the news... it's way too complicated to understand how studies are actually conducted, or why they don't present the facts they don't want you to see..

It's pretty trivial if you look at things like vitamin absorption or other supplements; what you take them with really matters. like, you have to take magnesium or calcium separately. same goes for iron, otherwise they just bond together and get flushed out. and vitamin C and magnesium are the same way, they shouldn't be taken together for the body to use them right.

We should probably start with a super simple formula, just a really basic nutrition philosophy. We need to start with food science. You have to actually start with real food. All these ideas about artificial stuff, chemical ingredients, supplements, or replacements... I mean, they're just wrong. The body needs actual food.

Your body needs a ton of food every single day. Proteins, carbs, fats—those are measured in decagrams or grams. But, the body VITALY AND NECESSARILY needs nutrients that are measured in thousands or even millionths of a gram—every single day. Vitamins (even the name "vita" tells you they're essential for life), and trace minerals like iron, zinc, chromium, and selenium. We have to KEEP UP the nutrition process, the body's healing process, the whole complete and total nutrition thing by making sure our bodies get micro-nutrients—every single day!

It isn't just about tossing in a few vitamins or minerals here and there whenever we feel like it (like, oh, a little vitamin C here, maybe some calcium, iron, or beta-carotene there). That's basically just throwing money away without getting any real results. This is precise science. Because, vitamins and minerals have to be in a form that actually exists in nature; they have to be natural equivalents, they have to be balanced, bioavailable, and assimilable at the cellular level!

Modern nutritional science is moving toward plant science—PLANTS IN NUTRITION!

The healing power of plants has been known for thousands of years. From ancient times to now, healers have used plants as medicine. But it's only really in the last 15 years or so that we've become aware of the ADVANTAGES AND BENEFITS OF PLANTS IN DAILY DIETS. Why? Plants are the only source of fiber, they're natural sources of vitamins and minerals, and they're loaded with botanical factors called "antioxidants" that protect the body from radiation, polluted water and air, and disease. Antioxidants are what stop the body from aging prematurely. And they help the body feel strong and vital.

And most importantly, using plants in your diet and the healing process triggers the natural DETOXIFICATION process. You have to clean the toxins and impurities out of your body from the inside so you can actually let it heal!

All of this is basically rebuilding the global healthcare system. And doing it in the opposite direction. From the bottom up. Starting with the people who want to get healthy, stay healthy, and use natural food, natural minerals, natural vitamins, and plants to make it happen.

Grace Flores85 said:Exactly.👍 I mean, what really trips me out is how people who chug multivitamin supplements actually believe they’re doing something. It's just a plain old placebo effect, honestly. It’s kind of sad. Every single doctor and scientist I ever sat through a lecture with at my university told us the same thing. Big Pharma is basically just a massive money-making machine, nothing more, and people are just being naive about it.🙂

That’s why you have to learn how to tell the difference between actual natural remedies and the stuff manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry just because they're racing to see who can grab the most cash.

First off, you gotta realize that what we call "healthcare" is actually just a business model built entirely around sickness. Our medical industry today has almost nothing, if anything, to do with actual health. All this massive amount of money we pour into medical care goes toward managing disease and treating symptoms. There is so little focus on prevention—on actually becoming stronger or healthier. When you go to medical professionals today and say, "Hey, my arthritis is acting up, my vision is blurry, and I can't hear well," they just shrug and say, "Oh, you're just getting older—age, age, age, age." But really, those are usually just symptoms of a terrible diet.

The actual facts regarding nutrition, vitamins, minerals, and dietary supplements are pretty much the polar opposite of everything you've heard from the medical establishment; for a lot of people, it flies right in the face of how they were raised. There is just so much misinformation floating around that it’s totally natural to be skeptical. Those multivitamin supplements sold by big pharma companies don't have any real connection to nature or natural vitamins, because even if they claim to have the "same" molecular makeup as what you find in nature, these synthetic versions don't even come close to having an actual effect on the body.

The whole pharmaceutical thing is just one giant business, and for them, the sick person is the client—the person they live off of and make their profit from. A patient who actually gets healthy is, unfortunately for them, a lost customer!

Most of the drugs on the market are designed to deal with the symptoms of a condition rather than curing the illness itself, let alone addressing the root cause that triggered the problem in the first place.

And that guarantees those pharmaceutical houses a steady stream of clients (and obviously, patients) for life!

shadowgardener12 said:I mean, if we’re talking about actual progress, I feel like food should be part of that conversation too... but honestly, people are eating way worse garbage now than they were even 400 years ago... so where’s the progress in that? We've just got this massive wave of low-nutrient, mass-produced junk... and then everyone tries to fix the damage caused by that food by popping pills... it's all just big 😉

You're totally right, it’s all just one giant business model designed to squeeze every cent out of us...

The way food is chemically engineered nowadays basically forces you to overeat way past the point of being full.
Like, if you eat a bunch of bananas or apples or anything else fresh and unprocessed, your body—through your taste buds, I guess—eventually signals that you need to switch things up.
But why doesn't that happen when you're slamming chocolate bars, potato chips, or that fast food stuff they churn out at McDonald's...? Why is it that the more you eat that kind of crap, the more you crave it?

All that chemical processing is rigged to make you eat more, which leads to overconsumption, and at the end of the day, it’s just a way to pump up profits at the expense of the consumer.

This whole industry just keeps churning out basically the same stuff in different packaging; that lack of variety leads to terrible nutrition, and bad nutrition is what drives obesity and all these diseases.

Even cigarette manufacturers have messed with the chemical makeup of tobacco just to make it more addictive.
Back in 2001, Philip Morris bought up some of the biggest names in kids' snacks (including brands like Ritz and Philadelphia). That move turned Philip Morris into the second largest food company on the planet, right after Nestlé.

The food industry pulls in about a trillion dollars a year these days; meanwhile, the "disease industry" is looking at the next trillion (actually closer to 1.4 trillion). These two sectors are pretty much feeding off each other in a really sneaky way, because a huge chunk of modern illness is directly caused by the crappy nutrition provided by the food industry.

Right now, I guess you could say humans are caught in a trap, squeezed between two massive giants: the mass-market food industry and Big Pharma, which together create this incredibly powerful "disease industry."

Sandra Hayes88 said:Regarding "Herbalife," I honestly think their stuff is actually pretty good and high quality, it’s just super expensive, which I guess is just how most MLM products end up being.
You can probably find similar stuff somewhere else for a better price.
I don't know, maybe the reason why MLM prices are so sky-high is because only the people at the bottom of the pyramid are actually selling anything, while everyone higher up is just grabbing a cut of those sales?
I mean, I really don't get that logic???
mistybear4, you have to realize that even if "Herbalife" makes a good product, they have a really bad reputation basically because of the company's unprofessional and shady behavior.
You can read more about that in this article truth about Herbalife

Sandra Hayes88, look, I'm actually pretty well-versed in everything involving Herbalife; I know tons of people who have seen real results using it, and I've personally met mistybear4 (I recognized him from a photo with Dr. David Heber, so I know exactly who we're talking about).

I'm not trying to be anyone's lawyer here, but I know for a fact how hard that guy works to spread the word about cellular nutrition—which is the whole concept behind Herbalife and is actually backed by science now—and since I know money isn't his only driver, I personally respect him a lot for that. Sometimes he gets a bit too stubborn with all that "preaching" and won't listen to our advice, so he ends up getting into these pointless arguments, kind of like what's happening right here on this Forum.

You don't have to agree with me, but I really don't think there's a more honest company out there than Herbalife, and since there isn't any strict screening for people starting out in this business, it's totally understandable that you'll run into some "bottom feeders" who drag the company's reputation through the mud and mess things up for the honest folks. (I guess that's my answer to that article/link you shared). Why nobody has put an end to that, I honestly haven't a clue.

I'd also touch on the pricing, which I don't think is actually too high, mostly because we're talking about top-tier technology and premium quality here; these are easily some of the most strictly controlled products on the entire market, and you definitely get the absolute maximum for what you spend.
As for the company's marketing, I know quite a bit about that too, but it's probably neither the place nor the time to try and convince someone they're wrong, so I won't try to do that to you.