Rachel Martinez11 said:The issue—I truly believe—lies within society itself. I’m deeply convinced that even during WWII, there were good Germans who celebrated Christmas and New Year's Day, despite the fact that Jews were perishing in German concentration camps at that very same time. People have this tendency toward manipulation and a sort of collective amnesia. It’s just how it works. Just as those who spent their entire lives waving the Stars and Stripes overnight transformed into extremists—forgetting all too quickly the tears shed at the funeral of Marshall—so too will people, in twenty years or more, forget they ever ate meat. They'll convince themselves they’ve always fought for a righteous, ethical society free from exploitation or the abuse of any race or living creature.
son, I don't know if you're quite sharp enough to realize it, but you've really just scored an accidental goal against yourself here. 🙂
What nonsense 🙄 In general—and I say this most sincerely—it seems you don't quite grasp what intelligence actually means, since it really doesn't have anything to do with your diet.
Rachel Martinez11 said:I was honestly convinced—aside from just trolling—that your whole mission was to adopt some sort of carnivore lifestyle. But now I’m a bit confused, because in every single post in this thread, you seem to be trying to argue that vegetarians are actually the smarter ones.
Rachel Martinez11 said:I never claimed my position was some kind of universal law.—I guess I just have my own view.
But you really do—you constantly insist that animals shouldn't kill for food, and that this is somehow the only—the truly correct—way to look at things.🙄 🙄
Rachel Martinez11 said:But I am trying. And because of that, I believe I have the right to say what I think is right—here or anywhere else.
Honestly, you should just read *The Secret Life of Plants*—then maybe you'll see my point.
Rachel Martinez11, you are being incredibly tedious with those dogmatic views of yours. You really need to realize that your perspective is just that—your own—and it certainly isn't some universal truth. I mean, who are you to claim it's wrong to eat animals?
And let’s be real: you are NEVER going to change the world. Meat eaters make up the vast majority—they always will—and frankly, thank God for that. Because at the end of the day, all your arguments, no matter how convincing they might seem, fall apart against one undeniable fact: vegetarian food is just utterly bland. 🙏 🙏
Look, are you honestly playing dumb here? The meat we eat is essentially the same thing as the plants we consume—just dead remains of some once-living organism, whether you want to call it a corpse or whatever else 👍 . It’s just that your obsession—I guess you could say—prevents you from admitting that you're wrong about this.
Rachel Martinez11 said:That is a truly valuable statement—and I think the reasoning is quite solid.
And look at who’s lecturing me—you, specifically—constantly insisting that everyone else is at fault while you alone have reached enlightenment. Honestly, please just give it a rest... it is perfectly acceptable to eat meat, I suppose.👍 👍 👍
azzie_elbub said:You’re being paranoid again—😳 though I suppose reality might be a bit different than you think 😉. I know what I’ve been going through firsthand—plus, I hear similar stories from others facing the exact same "issues." I’m not judging anyone based on how they live their lives—nor do I want to be judged myself—but I feel it’s fair to say I simply won't swallow a lie when someone tries to force-feed it to me.
Rachel Martinez11 said:From the moment we're born, people are bombarded with all these doctrines—which, frankly, aren't even logical—that clash with common sense; they just stick because they're ingrained so early, and we're constantly surrounded by other indoctrinated people and media propaganda
I disagree. I think most vegetarians have had their brains washed. Not that it matters why I'm vegetarian—it just matters that I am—but some people just love to look down on others 🙄 🙄 🙄