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Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
RuzanPrljavGlup said:your cynicism is just pathetic

nah, it ain't.

"what's the point of having cash if you've got nothing left at home" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa................ :LOL:
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
RuzanPrljavGlup said:What's the point of having cash if you've got nothing at home?

Man, listen to this absolute drama queen... give me a break...
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
IAAM said:Alright, what's your deal? Are you some kind of obsessed fanboy or something? Because the way you're out here defending him is honestly pathetic.

Nah, I'm talking about a fellow athlete.

Duje Mohammed ibn EL ZarKaki is a total sellout, and that’s just straight facts. I don't even know what kind of twisted logic you're using to defend him, but honestly, you're just proving that you'd flip on us and screw everyone over the second you saw an opportunity to save your own skin.

It all boils down to the price tag.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Ashley Brown81 said:Good for Duja, honestly. He’s basically in swimming for the paycheck, so whatever floats his boat.
The part that absolutely kills me about this whole mess is how much the sport has devolved. People are jumping ship and switching nationalities just to chase a fat check. It's pathetic.

Chasing paychecks? :LOL:

I mean, come on, who isn't in swimming for the money?
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Jose Miller17 said:Nah, you're missing the point... we're talking about major league sports here... that's the whole damn premise. 🙂
And you still haven't answered my question. :-)

Look, you can't even begin to compare swimming to soccer on this level. It’s apples and oranges.

The question? Man, I don't root for anyone. I don't have idols. I just follow Milan because it's what I've always done.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Brandon Castillo4~ said:Alright, enough with the insults and the flamewars. Both of these guys are 😉 🙂

Why are you coming at me? Calling someone a bottom-feeder isn't even an insult.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:Look, I'm not some kind of god and I can't be glued to this screen 24/7, so if you actually have proof for the crap you're spewing, just lay it out right now. We'll get this whole mess sorted out real quick.😉

But yeah, I had to go through all those shady posts and ended up having to flag it for the mods.

I told you, man—it was offensive.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Jose Miller17 said:Wait, what exactly is your problem? You’re acting like you’re somehow some higher being looking down on all us primitives who don't grasp your "hidden" and "noble" wisdom or whatever.
I don't even know why he's walking away from this, honestly. What's the actual motive behind him bowing out like this? It makes zero sense.

Where on earth did I ever say he didn't leave because of the money?

Citizenship... just so you know, that "virtue" you’re acting like is actually nothing more than pure greed. It’s all about the money. Period. This guy sold himself out for a paycheck... honestly, it's pathetic, like someone selling their soul for a quick buck. He isn't some starving guy with no future; he’s already loaded, he just wants more.
I mean, I totally get that he doesn't give a damn about his country or anything, but then he's got the nerve to whine when he doesn't get paid? Like, seriously? Just say you were there for the paycheck and call it a day. Stop the complaining.

Wait, who’s actually losing it here? Of course he did it for the money! Like, what else are we even talking about?

Maybe take a breather from that mindless keyboard smashing for a second and actually think about this. Are you really okay with every athlete just chasing the biggest paycheck possible in the future? Because if that happens, who exactly are you going to root for? Is it gonna be whoever has enough cash to afford the flashiest jerseys?

Look, sports is a job—it’s a freaking profession. Period. People make their entire living doing this. While you’re sitting there in some cubicle grinding through your nine-to-five, these athletes are doing the exact same thing; they just aren't stuck behind a desk, they're out there crushing miles on a bike or perfecting their technique in the gym. You get it? You work for a paycheck, you’re a part of the economy, and they work for a paycheck. It’s the same damn thing. Completely.

Look, if you’re really out here trying to explain high-level concepts to someone who just doesn't get it, you might want to go take a good, hard look in the mirror first...I'll pay you back. 🙂 🙂

Pay up and I'll take a look.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:The rules apply to everyone equally. 🙂

Look, I saw the pattern today—you're quoting two different posts just to cherry-pick the insults out of them, so I had to step in and tell you to knock it off.
If someone is actually coming at you or anyone else with insults, just shoot me a DM. I'll hand out a warning, and if they keep acting up, they get the ban hammer.

Do you really think I’m out here moderating based on my own damn feelings?

Wouldn't you love that 😈 😉

I'm telling you, that kid definitely dropped some nasty comments about me in a couple of posts I haven't even seen yet. Someone quoted him, but honestly, I don't even care. It doesn't affect me. Just remember what was said: the rules are the same for everybody.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:cut

Look, I’m not saying Duke wasn't pulling in decent money—he definitely was—but if there's a chance to make even more, then for crying out loud, why wouldn't you take it? That's basically what I was getting at in my last post.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:You’re out here quoting every single person who disagrees with you just to throw a few insults at them because they have a different take. As a mod, I'm seriously asking you to cut that crap out. Have an actual debate if you want, but quit the personal attacks. You get me 🙂?

That's total BS. I only quoted two people. Once the rules actually apply to everyone equally, then maybe I'll stop.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
[User Name] says:
What the hell is wrong with you??? As far as I can tell, Ljubicic is absolutely Athlete of the Year material—he earned it by grinding through all that struggle, and honestly, massive props to him for making that story happen!

Look, I get it, but let’s be real—some of those awards were basically handed to the favorites on a silver platter.

Louis is legit.

Forget all this Olympic qualifying nonsense. Louis was in three different pairings at the Olympics, he basically carried the whole country to the Davis Cup finals, and what does the government give him for it? Absolutely nothing.

He isn't giving him anything because he doesn't have to, and honestly, this guy isn't even asking since he already has everything he needs.

Honestly, I’m just gonna sit this whole Olympic qualifying fight out. It’s better that way.

I'm gonna be real with you—a true athlete knows how to stand on their own two feet by letting their results do the talking, instead of selling themselves out like some total sellout. But then you've got John Doe!

What a load of crap. Does this guy even know what "preconditions" means? Like, seriously, how are you supposed to train if you're broke? How do you even show up to meets or big races when you don't have the cash? Where does all that funding come from? I’m not saying Duke wasn't pulling in decent money—he was fine—but if there's an opportunity to make even more, then for God's sake, why wouldn't you take it?

And another thing—if you're looking at any of the less mainstream sports over here in the States, you honestly can't make it. It doesn't matter how much talent you have or how hard you're willing to grind; without serious cash behind you, you're basically dead in the water. Period.

Look, man, Kozulja actually loves what he does, and that kind of passion is exactly why he’s gonna kill it in life. Meanwhile, John Doe? He just does nothing but whine and moan constantly. It's pathetic.

And how do you actually know they love them? Did they sit you down and spell it out? Because honestly, I’m hearing something completely different on my end.

Nobody’s got a damn guarantee that they’re actually gonna make it. And honestly, what does "making it" even mean anyway?

Well, good for him, I guess. Let him enjoy it while it lasts. But honestly? If I were in charge, I’d pass a law right now banning any kind of citizenship reinstatement—just shut that door for good. They can try to deal with the visa process whenever they feel like it, but I'm dying to see how he plans on strolling through downtown Miami without looking over his shoulder every five seconds.

Look, obviously he’s a citizen of another country now, so he’s gotta play by the rules just like everyone else. Period.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:Look, you can spam a thousand posts if you want, just cut out the "you're an idiot" and "brainless moron" crap. 😉

I have no idea what you're even talking about here.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
crotomy said:Look, Kožulj is gonna pull through. He hasn't been whining like Draganja and talking trash like that! He’s a real man and he’ll fight for what’s his just like he always has. Plus, he won't have to keep paying off Draganja anymore, so maybe he'll actually see some profit now that he's our top swimmer.👍

The reason people bring up soccer players is because those guys make bank, and playing for the national team is basically just a job requirement for them—but even then, they aren't out there selling out their heritage just for a paycheck!!

You seriously think Kožulj wouldn't fly off to Bahrain if someone slapped a massive contract in front of him?

If pro clubs didn't exist and it was just national teams, you really think people wouldn't be selling out?
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
L. NimoyInvadesMetal said:warning regarding insults
🙂

Oh, really? So I'm the only one being toxic here? What about all of you constantly trashing Duje?

And honestly, I bet that little punk mrex wrote something pretty nasty too. I've got him on my ignore list so I can't even see his crap.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
rustystag7 said:When he jumped into swimming, he knew exactly what he was getting into, plain and simple. Plus, I think the government gave him better terms than any other athlete in America, but honestly, I don't even think he's the best American athlete out there!!

Are you actually insane? Have you even watched the Athlete of the Year ceremony?

Laughing my head off here. Seriously.

What about Jedan Čubrić or Patrčević? I bet 100% of you haven't even heard their names. What about their performances in the World Cups? Their grind to make the Olympic Games?

What does one day of hype matter compared to the years of work put in by Ivica, Duje, Gordana, or Dejan?

The people handing out these awards clearly don't know the first thing about real sports.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
rustystag7
You’re basically saying he sold his soul for a paycheck... both his dignity and his citizenship. Honestly, if he doesn't give a damn, then I don't either. So yeah, 🙂 it's just 👋

Look, talking to you right now is just a waste of my breath... honestly, what am I even doing? It's like trying to teach a horse how to ride a bike.

Where do you even work?
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
rustystag7 said:Look, it's one thing to switch clubs, but it's a whole different ballgame to switch countries just because you feel like it.

In swimming, there aren't really "clubs" like in other sports. It's all about representing the national team.

The guy moved because he needed to secure his future. Why wouldn't he go after MORE money if the opportunity's right there? Does he give a damn about some piece of paper that says he's American? What does that even mean to him? Absolutely nothing.

He went there because the contract was better. Period.

And GET THIS—he doesn't care who he's representing in the pool, because at the end of the day, HE'S SWIMMING FOR THE PAYCHECK.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Steven Johnson96 said:Duje EL Mohamed Draganja is a traitor to me. He sold out his country... I mean, when someone sells out the nation they belong to just for some cash...👎

And look at this guy... holy crap... What exactly did he "sell out"? Who did he sell what to?

The idiot sold HIMSELF, just like everyone else does.

Why don't you morons start whining about why players go overseas to play for foreign clubs instead?

Absolute idiots.
Duje Draganja: Sellout or just misunderstood? in Other Sports ·
Paul Lopez49 said:Duje totally screwed me over. 🙏

God damn it. 👋

You're an idiot.

And honestly, anyone who doesn't get what he's doing clearly doesn't know the first thing about sports. Total Neanderthals.