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Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
slydriver52 said:Take something like Gaspari Nutrition Intra Pro
or some other random Hyper Whey
and so on...
But I’m not talking about using it as a sweetener, and I definitely never claimed anyone uses maltodextrin for that!
Some brands over at Twinlab even throw fructose in there.

So what's even the point of having maltodextrin in whey?
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
slydriver52 said:The guy doesn't have some mysterious allergy or intolerance; he’s just got a completely unbalanced diet. It's obvious he polished off half a pound of oats today, and now he's acting shocked that he's constantly bloated and glued to the toilet.
I've gone even harder on the oats myself, but only because it's the easiest thing to whip up when I'm being lazy. My diet is pretty trash, honestly, but I'm not complaining about the extra trips to the bathroom or the constant gas because at least I know exactly why it's happening.

Give me a break. You eat 100 grams of oats and suddenly you're posting volumes of crap the size of a freaking SUV.😁
It just swells up once you add water. Either you chew it forever or you eat it dry and then your body just sucks all the water out of you like a vacuum, and you end up right back where you started.
+ On top of that, you're guaranteed to be farting like crazy and poisoning your system with all those rotting byproducts.
You can try taking enzymes, but it won't do squat.
Basically, it's garbage food. And I have zero intention of shitting like a horse every single day just to get 100 measly grams of carbs.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
slydriver52 said:Wait, hold on a second—where on earth does it actually say that this whey is neutral? I've been looking everywhere.😕
Look, not all whey protein is created equal. You’ve got all these different varieties out there, and honestly, it can get pretty confusing if you aren't paying attention. Some brands like to cut corners by tossing in dextrose or maltodextrin—which is basically just a polysaccharide that doesn't even add any sweetness, so what's even the point? It's just extra filler.
Look, I get why people ask this. It feels like you're missing out on something if you aren't making your shake creamy, right? But there’s actually a method to the madness here. The short answer? It mostly comes down to how much of that expensive powder you're actually getting into your system versus how much you're just drinking for the sake of flavor. If you mix your whey with milk, you're adding a ton of extra calories, fats, and carbs—mostly lactose and milk sugars—into a drink that’s supposed to be a lean protein hit. If you're trying to cut or just keeping an eye on your macros, adding milk is basically like adding uninvited guests to a private party. You want the protein, not the extra baggage. Then there's the texture issue. Most high-quality stuff, like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey, is designed to dissolve smoothly. When you hit it with water, you get a clean, quick hit of protein. Add milk, and suddenly it’s a thick, heavy sludge that sits in your stomach like a brick. For some people, that’s a cozy treat, but for most of us just trying to get through a workout or a busy workday, we don't want to feel like we swallowed a milkshake halfway through our sets. Plus, let's be real about digestion. A lot of people find that mixing whey with milk makes them feel bloated or even a little nauseous. It's that classic "heavy stomach" feeling that ruins a good session. Water keeps things light and fast-acting. So, yeah, if you want it to taste like a dessert, go ahead and grab some milk from Walmart. But if you're looking for efficiency and staying on track with your goals without the unnecessary bloat, water is usually the way to go. Just my two cents.
Look, I’m sticking by what I said about the sweeteners. Period.

I mean, come on, it says right there in the ad.

Look, when you start digging into this stuff, you'll realize there isn't just one "protein." It’s not like buying a gallon of milk and calling it a day. You’ve got your concentrates, your isolates, and then there’s the hydrolyzed stuff. Honestly, it can feel like you need a PhD just to pick something off the shelf at Walmart.
Look, you've got two ways to go here: either grab the unflavored stuff if you want zero nonsense, or go with one that has sweeteners if you actually want it to taste like something. Honestly, it's your call.
Why on earth would they bother throwing maltodextrin in there as a sweetener? It doesn't even taste sweet. If you're looking for that, you might as well just buy a mass gainer and call it a day. Seriously, what's the point?
Where the hell is that whey protein you were talking about? The one that uses maltodextrin as a sweetener? I need to see the label on that thing. 🤣

That's exactly what some old-school bodybuilder told me once.😁 Some people swear that milk is absolute garbage—like, total junk that’ll just leave you feeling gross and coated in sludge. And honestly? They aren't entirely wrong about the digestion part. Most grown adults have a hell of a time processing it. If you're dealing with constant bloating, don't go blaming the whey; blame that crappy milk you've been drinking. It's the dairy doing the heavy lifting on your gut issues, not the supplement.
Look, if you actually want to see results, just stick to hydrolyzed protein and water. It’s simple. Ditch the milk entirely—it’s honestly not worth the hassle. Do this, and you might actually find some happiness in your progress.
Well, that’s because it absorbs way faster when you mix it with water. Simple as that.

I finally kicked oats out of my diet entirely. Honestly, they’re absolute garbage—all they do is leave you bloated, gassy, and constantly running to the bathroom. Not worth the hassle.
Look, there’s actually a killer alternative out there for that. I just pulled the trigger on an order from the States for this one product that is seriously unlike anything else on the market. It’s a total game-changer, and honestly, it’s so niche that only one single company in the entire USA even manufactures it—it's this incredibly complex UH setup.
Look, if you want actual sustained energy, you need to be looking at long-chain polysaccharides that actually take about two hours to digest. You know what I mean—not that cheap, low-grade maltodextrin crap that hits your system like a freight train and burns out the second you swallow it. We’re talking about specialized, long-chain polymers here. Real fuel, not just a quick spike and a crash.

Honestly, if I just took this twice a day, I wouldn't even have to touch those damn oats. I could skip the whole routine and stop wasting my time going to the bathroom every single morning just to pass useless crap that's basically just 100 grams of complex carbs passing right through me. It’s a joke.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
slydriver52 said:Once you give it a shot, please bring your thoughts back to this forum, but hey, just don't turn this thread into a direct advertisement. Pay close attention to how fine the powder is, how well it dissolves in milk, the flavor profile (if it’s sickly sweet, it probably means they dumped in way too much sucrose or dextrose, which isn't great), and whether or not you end up feeling bloated after drinking it.

What do you mean "flavor"? It's basically neutral. And honestly, what's this talk about black dextrose or sucrose? In most whey powders, they just load up on artificial sweeteners like aspartame, acesulfame-K, or sucralose. Not exactly the healthiest way to go.
You can't get bloated from actual whey. The only way that happens is if you're buying absolute garbage from Scietec.
If you really think you're getting bloated, try doing what I do: take two scoops of pure MVP Iso Muscle 100 hydrolysate with water, knock it back, and then let me know if you feel anything. There's zero chance. That's because it's nothing but pure whey peptides. But look, quality comes at a price.
And besides, most people mix their whey with water, not milk.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Paul Baker29 said:Technically, soy does have a complete amino acid profile, but you should still steer clear of it because of all the heavy processing and GMO stuff going on.

Don't give me that. It doesn't even have a complete profile of all 20 amino acids.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
William Roberts56 said:Which protein should I go with? I'm planning on grabbing some whey, but I know there are different ways to extract it from the whey—ranging from concentrates at about 75% all the way up to the stuff that's over 90%. I want to know which one is actually worth getting, and ideally, where can I find the best prices in Chicago?

So, if anyone is currently using something specific, or can even just give me some general guidance, let me know.

The second you mention the word "cheap," your options pretty much vanish.

You could grab the concentrate from MyProtein on their site.
A 5 kg bag $167is probably the most budget-friendly option you'll find for protein, and the quality is decent enough.
That is, if you have a buddy who isn't too busy ordering for a friend in Canada and then driving it over to the US, because myprotein.com doesn't ship to the States. Those silly English folks... I guess their business thrives just fine without us.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
ruggedorca3 said:Hey there!

So here’s my situation: I’m 23, just getting started at the gym, and my main goal is putting on some serious mass because I’m way underweight. I’ve been reading up on whey proteins—they seem like the gold standard—but I’m also looking into casein. Can I actually mix those two together? And if so, what’s the best way to play it?

Also, I haven't really figured out a meal plan yet, so if anyone has some solid recommendations, please help a guy out...

http://www.building-body.com/forum/index.php
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Ashley Gomez69 said:Question🙂
I’ve been doing a bit more cardio lately, maybe two hours of aerobic stuff a day. It’s wearing me out, and honestly, I don't want to lose weight—I just want to tone up. How good are those protein supplements actually for women? I'm kind of terrified of them, especially since I’m not much of a meat eater; I struggle to get enough protein from actual meals.
Also, can soy and its various derivatives actually provide enough protein for the body?

The short answer is no. It doesn't have a complete amino acid profile, so your body isn't really utilizing it properly. Plus, most soy is processed using hexane, so you're probably better off steering clear of it altogether...
If you're looking at plants, hemp is pretty much the only one with a full amino acid profile.

Whey is perfectly fine. Nothing "crazy" is going to happen to you other than building some muscle, but don't worry—you aren't going to wake up looking like a pro bodybuilder overnight...
If you're trying to avoid losing weight, just eat more complex carbs. But regardless, you still need to hit your protein targets.
Some people make the mistake of going on a diet and thinking they can live off nothing but whey. Listen, folks, if you want results, you need to combine whey with complex carbs plus things like Omega-3s or CLA to help with fat metabolism while you train. That's how you actually drop the fat.
Otherwise, if you cut out carbs entirely, you'll just lose muscle and end up with saggy skin that only a surgeon's scalpel can fix.
It’s a simple equation. Yet, I see these ridiculous TV commercials for "miracle" waist trainers and magic pills—it's a joke.
Look, people, you can't just melt away belly fat in isolation; you have to lower your total body fat percentage.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
wiredpilot30 said:Read it again.

Look, I actually read what he wrote. The guy is asking for examples of fast-acting carbs, and you respond with bread, sugar, rice, candy, pasta, and cereal.
Need some quick help! in Hobbies & Leisure ·
If you’ve got a mountain of cash to burn on supplements, I guess anything is possible...
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
wiredpilot30 said:Bread, sugar, rice, candy, pasta, cereal... just Google "fast carbs" or "simple carbohydrates"

Like, if Kim Kardashian had a candy bar in Michael Schumacher's pocket, that’d be some seriously ultra-fast carbs 😬

Wait, am I reading this right? Rice, pasta, AND cereal are all considered simple carbs?
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Alex Long8 said:First off, the guy said he was planning on going from September to October next year, not that he's already there for the 9-10 month stretch...
Secondly, you’re out here claiming the most expensive stuff isn't worth it, and then you immediately drop a link to the priciest protein on the market. And look, even over in places like Canada, things might seem cheaper than they are here in the States, but those "budget" options are still some of the highest prices you'll find compared to our local shops. It's all relative, I guess.


artificial flavors, sucralose, FD&C Red 40 (Orange Red)
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Look, everyone already knows the deal with Aspartame and Sucralose—they're basically junk.
Honestly, Whey is pretty much useless if you aren't hitting your macros with actual, real food like cheese, eggs, turkey, or chicken.

If you’re constantly dealing with stomach issues or diarrhea, it’s probably because you're overdoing the Whey or overloading on Aspartame.
In my book, the only decent animal-based option out there is the MVP iso logic neutral.
Now I'm thinking about ordering some hemp protein from http://www.marijuanamuscle.com/ just to see if switching to plant-based actually helps my progress. It's a bit of a catch, though—it has about 50% less protein than the animal stuff and it costs an arm and a leg.
To top it all off, once it hits US Customs and I deal with the extra taxes, the price is going to jump another 30%. You can't even find the good stuff locally; they just sell that cheap, garbage protein that everyone else seems to swear by.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Raymond Hughes said:Is it okay to swap out glucose for fructose when I'm taking my whey?

Not even in your wildest dreams.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Harold Booth68 said:Why don't you just drink it yourself? lol

Honestly, I can't stand those whey proteins loaded with artificial sweeteners.

A quick heads-up on the sweetener situation if you care: http://www.building-body.com/Umjetni...esulfam-K.html

http://www.building-body.com/Supleme...tml#jfd0761bcf
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
Scitech Nutritional is absolute garbage.

I mean, does anyone actually want me to just give away this
?
It’s basically full, though it's already open. My brother knocked back a few scoops and decided he was done with it forever. Meanwhile, I’ve moved on to drinking MVP isologic.
Flavor: vanilla
So, if anyone is interested, just shoot me a $17 DM
and I'll toss it in the mail for you. Honestly, if nobody takes it, I'm just worried about watching it sit there and go to waste.
Best protein powders for muscle gain? in Hobbies & Leisure ·
silenthawk9 said:So, I’ve got a question here.
Back in November, I started using Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard, and over three months, I managed to pack on about 18 pounds (going from 154 lbs to 172 lbs). Along the way, I totally overhauled my diet—way more chicken, turkey, cheese, tuna, grains, you name it...
Now I’ve moved on from that, and a neighbor suggested I try Dymatize Elite Whey, which I bought and have been sipping on for about 10 days now.
Aside from the fact that the banana flavor is pretty gross, I’ve actually dropped a couple of pounds in the last two weeks. I’m just taking one 30g scoop once a day.

What am I looking at here in terms of results by switching from the mass gainer to Whey?
Am I going to lean out while still getting stronger? Or should I be bumping up the dosage later on?

I’m hitting the weights for an hour and a half every other day. I’ve got a bench, some dumbbells, and a stationary bike at home.😁

🤦 🙂