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To be or not to be... a father? in Philosophy ·
Rebecca Cox2 said:The phrase "having kids" does feel low and dirty because it implies—even if we don't realize it—that a child is just parental property. It’s barely an upgrade from saying "making a baby."

Raising a child is a better way to put it, though even that doesn't seem to capture the full reality, given how often people struggle to actually succeed at it.

As for me, my child is due in about a month. My goal is simply to keep them healthy and safe until they reach the age where they can truly interact with the world. After that, I hope to guide them toward becoming a contributing member of our family, giving them the foundation they need to grow into an independent, responsible adult.

Hopefully, my spouse and I can pull this off together...😉

Well, yeah—assuming you end up having more kids.
Only children usually just know how to take, not how to share, mostly because they never really get the chance to learn.
And where exactly are you even going to host a celebration for a child's birthday?
Self-Portrait in Philosophy ·
silentnomad23 said:Our everyday human consciousness is simply limited to perceiving things that are finite. To a mind like ours, the concept of the timeless and the infinite is practically incomprehensible. Just try to wrap your head around the idea of a state where neither time nor space exists. What would happen to energy in such a void? If there is no physical medium to act upon, does energy even vanish? Where would it go, and what would it transform into?
I won't even get into the whole discussion regarding experience and prejudice.

But this raises a question—is this mundane, day-to-day consciousness really the only kind of awareness we possess?
Isn't there some sort of way, perhaps, for us to actually perceive the infinite?
If not through something truly timeless, then maybe through something that feels incredibly, unimaginably vast.

silentnomad23 said:Our everyday human consciousness is simply limited to perceiving things that are finite. To a mind like ours, the concept of the timeless and the infinite is practically incomprehensible. Just try to wrap your head around the idea of a state where neither time nor space exists. What would happen to energy in such a void? If there is no physical medium to act upon, does energy even vanish? Where would it go, and what would it transform into?
I won't even get into the whole discussion regarding experience and prejudice.

I honestly struggle to wrap my head around the idea of time and space not existing. The only way I can even begin to conceptualize time being absent would be to imagine a space where absolutely nothing ever changes. But trying to conceive of time without any sense of space... well, that doesn't quite work for me.
And to imagine a world without either one? What would even be left to think about?
The inevitable answer seems to be that I would be thinking of nothing at all.
But then again, you can't really "think" about nothingness—you can only, supposedly, experience it.
As for energy existing outside of space and time—assuming such a thing is even possible—it feels to me like it would just cease to be. Space seems like a necessary prerequisite for its existence. At least, that’s how I see it.
Anyway, I think we've drifted a bit from the self-portrait. What else would you like me to paint for you?
Self-Portrait in Philosophy ·
silentnomad23 said:What exactly are these hallucinations we're talking about? I find myself wondering about their true nature—who or what is actually generating them, and where they originate from. Are they tangible, objective phenomena occurring in the world around us, or are they merely products of our own minds and perceptions?
There is a fascinating distinction between the "me" without experience and the "me" shaped by years of living. It leads me to wonder: can that version of ourselves—the one bolstered by experience—actually be a mere illusion? We often fall into the trap of believing we truly know who we are, only to realize that our self-perception might just be a collection of accumulated prejudices. We convince ourselves we possess certain fixed traits, yet in reality, we remain entirely fluid. We become so certain of our own identity that we mistake our preconceived notions for our actual essence, essentially identifying with a static image of ourselves rather than the dynamic truth of who we really are.

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak about that inner energy, but it does raise an interesting question: where does this force actually originate within us? Furthermore, are you aware of the specific ways one can augment their own vitality through conscious effort—or perhaps even through a sense of effortless flow?

What leads you to that particular conclusion?

Well, change. Any kind of change acts as a stimulus. Shifts in the world around us trigger internal reactions—and those shifts can be caused by anyone or anything, really. Change is real (at least, I think we have good reason to believe it is), though it’s also possible it's just something our minds conjure up.

silentnomad23 said:What exactly are these hallucinations we're talking about? I find myself wondering about their true nature—who or what is actually generating them, and where they originate from. Are they tangible, objective phenomena occurring in the world around us, or are they merely products of our own minds and perceptions?
There is a fascinating distinction between the "me" without experience and the "me" shaped by years of living. It leads me to wonder: can that version of ourselves—the one bolstered by experience—actually be a mere illusion? We often fall into the trap of believing we truly know who we are, only to realize that our self-perception might just be a collection of accumulated prejudices. We convince ourselves we possess certain fixed traits, yet in reality, we remain entirely fluid. We become so certain of our own identity that we mistake our preconceived notions for our actual essence, essentially identifying with a static image of ourselves rather than the dynamic truth of who we really are.

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak about that inner energy, but it does raise an interesting question: where does this force actually originate within us? Furthermore, are you aware of the specific ways one can augment their own vitality through conscious effort—or perhaps even through a sense of effortless flow?

What leads you to that particular conclusion?

Of course it could. But I suppose experience generally works to strip away those biases. In fact, I'd argue experience is the only thing that actively pushes back against all preconceptions—both regarding the world at large and ourselves. For instance, I used to hold the bias that I wasn't afraid of death anymore, mostly because I had faced it several times before. But the last time it happened, I felt that fear just as sharply as ever. So, I don't hold that bias anymore. Could I eventually reach a point where I truly am no longer afraid of death? Perhaps. But that isn't really something I’m looking to tackle right now. I'll just stop assuming that the fear won't be there.

silentnomad23 said:What exactly are these hallucinations we're talking about? I find myself wondering about their true nature—who or what is actually generating them, and where they originate from. Are they tangible, objective phenomena occurring in the world around us, or are they merely products of our own minds and perceptions?
There is a fascinating distinction between the "me" without experience and the "me" shaped by years of living. It leads me to wonder: can that version of ourselves—the one bolstered by experience—actually be a mere illusion? We often fall into the trap of believing we truly know who we are, only to realize that our self-perception might just be a collection of accumulated prejudices. We convince ourselves we possess certain fixed traits, yet in reality, we remain entirely fluid. We become so certain of our own identity that we mistake our preconceived notions for our actual essence, essentially identifying with a static image of ourselves rather than the dynamic truth of who we really are.

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak about that inner energy, but it does raise an interesting question: where does this force actually originate within us? Furthermore, are you aware of the specific ways one can augment their own vitality through conscious effort—or perhaps even through a sense of effortless flow?

What leads you to that particular conclusion?

We *are* energy.

silentnomad23 said:What exactly are these hallucinations we're talking about? I find myself wondering about their true nature—who or what is actually generating them, and where they originate from. Are they tangible, objective phenomena occurring in the world around us, or are they merely products of our own minds and perceptions?
There is a fascinating distinction between the "me" without experience and the "me" shaped by years of living. It leads me to wonder: can that version of ourselves—the one bolstered by experience—actually be a mere illusion? We often fall into the trap of believing we truly know who we are, only to realize that our self-perception might just be a collection of accumulated prejudices. We convince ourselves we possess certain fixed traits, yet in reality, we remain entirely fluid. We become so certain of our own identity that we mistake our preconceived notions for our actual essence, essentially identifying with a static image of ourselves rather than the dynamic truth of who we really are.

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak about that inner energy, but it does raise an interesting question: where does this force actually originate within us? Furthermore, are you aware of the specific ways one can augment their own vitality through conscious effort—or perhaps even through a sense of effortless flow?

What leads you to that particular conclusion?

It's common knowledge how to boost physical energy. And usually, when we raise our physical vitality, we also lift that "spiritual" energy—which, if you ask me, is really just a basic sense of self-belief.

silentnomad23 said:What exactly are these hallucinations we're talking about? I find myself wondering about their true nature—who or what is actually generating them, and where they originate from. Are they tangible, objective phenomena occurring in the world around us, or are they merely products of our own minds and perceptions?
There is a fascinating distinction between the "me" without experience and the "me" shaped by years of living. It leads me to wonder: can that version of ourselves—the one bolstered by experience—actually be a mere illusion? We often fall into the trap of believing we truly know who we are, only to realize that our self-perception might just be a collection of accumulated prejudices. We convince ourselves we possess certain fixed traits, yet in reality, we remain entirely fluid. We become so certain of our own identity that we mistake our preconceived notions for our actual essence, essentially identifying with a static image of ourselves rather than the dynamic truth of who we really are.

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak about that inner energy, but it does raise an interesting question: where does this force actually originate within us? Furthermore, are you aware of the specific ways one can augment their own vitality through conscious effort—or perhaps even through a sense of effortless flow?

What leads you to that particular conclusion?

Well, I suppose it comes down to the old prejudice that life is just easier if you aren't particularly bright. Personally—and I say this with some humility—I’m not exactly a genius, and I find my life to be relatively easy enough.
So, I guess I'm just speaking from experience.
To be or not to be... a father? in Philosophy ·
swiftcobra15 said:Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.

Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.[/COLOR]
How can you even think that? I’ve heard all sorts of things from you, but I’ve never heard you use that impersonal "it" before. Did you actually want kids? Why?
What first comes to my mind is that men want children because they want someone to be proud of—sort of a legacy thing.
Every dad dreams his son will play for LAFC and/or turn out to be incredibly smart. Then, they have to face the reality that kids are naturally stubborn—they don't exactly make things easy—and then they end up disappointed when their son decides to go to art school instead of pursuing sports. And so it goes... all in all, I suppose it feels to me like fathers want kids just to give themselves a second chance at life, trying to achieve everything they missed out on due to their own mistakes. Of course, they think they can point those mistakes out to the child. At least, they hope they can. But then what happens—as I mentioned—is that the kids become rebellious, and everything just falls apart. But by then, dads realize it too late. I guess that's just how Mother Nature designed it. After all, she is female.

swiftcobra15 said:Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.[/COLOR]

Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.[/COLOR]
Well, there you have it...

swiftcobra15 said:Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.[/COLOR]

Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.[/COLOR]
Don't tell people you have them. Just complain the whole time about how you don't have any free time. People who complain constantly usually find that nobody asks anything of them, just so they don't have to listen to the whining.[/COLOR]
Self-Portrait in Philosophy ·
silentnomad23 said:Based on your premise, there are two ways to look at this. First, that the "self" is a singular, relatively closed entity—a distinct unit that simply presents itself to us from different perspectives and under different lights.
The second possibility is that the "self" isn't an entity at all. Perhaps it doesn't even exist in a permanent sense; instead, a person is merely a living vessel, a temporary station through which a certain flow of vital energy, life, or spirit passes. We then interpret this movement as our "self," as personal growth, or as maturing. Once the physical body is spent, that energy simply moves on and doesn't return to that specific point. Could that be a viable alternative?

😁 😁

Perhaps that constancy is due to the deep-seated prejudices a person holds toward themselves, which have shaped them into someone who seemingly never changes their nature (though I couldn't speak for wolves 😁). These internal biases shape us more profoundly than we can possibly comprehend, which might explain why our core character feels so immutable. Are things like genetics and conditioning really just our own deeply rooted, ancient preconceptions? If so, through the psychological mechanism of suggestibility, those predispositions essentially fulfill their own prophecies. As each layer of bias is peeled away, the boundaries continue to shift and dissolve.

Exactly. It’s only when we see how that "self" reacts to various different situations—real-world pressures and shifts—that things actually start to come into focus. That’s when the "I" truly responds, and in that response, it finally reveals itself to us.
Without those kinds of triggers—those specific experiences that wake everything up—the "I" just lies there, dormant. It isn't doing anything, really; it doesn't reveal itself to anyone else, and I suppose it doesn't even reveal itself to oneself.
And then you pass away—and I suppose you're left feeling incredibly heavy with sadness.

silentnomad23 said:Based on your premise, there are two ways to look at this. First, that the "self" is a singular, relatively closed entity—a distinct unit that simply presents itself to us from different perspectives and under different lights.
The second possibility is that the "self" isn't an entity at all. Perhaps it doesn't even exist in a permanent sense; instead, a person is merely a living vessel, a temporary station through which a certain flow of vital energy, life, or spirit passes. We then interpret this movement as our "self," as personal growth, or as maturing. Once the physical body is spent, that energy simply moves on and doesn't return to that specific point. Could that be a viable alternative?

😁 😁

Perhaps that constancy is due to the deep-seated prejudices a person holds toward themselves, which have shaped them into someone who seemingly never changes their nature (though I couldn't speak for wolves 😁). These internal biases shape us more profoundly than we can possibly comprehend, which might explain why our core character feels so immutable. Are things like genetics and conditioning really just our own deeply rooted, ancient preconceptions? If so, through the psychological mechanism of suggestibility, those predispositions essentially fulfill their own prophecies. As each layer of bias is peeled away, the boundaries continue to shift and dissolve.

No, I don't think it works like that—energy doesn't just drift in and out of existence like a passing breeze. It’s always there, really. For most people, it stays dormant until a specific situation triggers it, but for certain individuals—those who are naturally more vibrant or driven—that energy is a constant presence. I suppose what sets these people apart is one specific quality: an unwavering sense of faith—whether that's a deep belief in themselves or something much greater than themselves. In my view, the stronger that faith is, the stronger the person becomes.
And that would be about it, I suppose.
I suppose everyone carries this inherent energy within them—it’s something we all possess in roughly equal measure. The real issue, I think, is that most people aren't even aware it exists. And even among those who do recognize it... well, they often have no idea what to actually do with it. It's a bit tragic, really—some end up destroying that spark by tearing themselves apart and dragging everything around them down with them. But then, there are others—the lucky ones, perhaps—who manage to channel it into something truly creative.
They’re building something of their own, I suppose—something truly unique.
They really do help foster a certain creative flow—it’s almost like they set the stage for everything else to fall into place.
No room for complaining or wallowing here—let's just move forward.
There isn't any "God, what am I going to do now."
It feels like nobody is actually giving me a fair shot—or maybe I'm just not being given the space to step up.
It’s really not that deep—there isn't much of a difference, I suppose. It’s hardly a major issue.

And that’s just how it goes—man builds pyramids.
In other words—I suppose you could say—those individuals who actually become aware of that energy end up changing the world around them.
Some people actually live their lives—truly living them. For everyone else, life just sort of happens to them, like they're part of some passive mass that can be steered in any direction one chooses. I guess it comes down to who's holding the wheel.
Take, for instance, the Soviet Union back on June 22, 1941.
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silentnomad23 Asks:
Is conditioning—and all that related stuff—really just a collection of our own deep-seated, ancient prejudices? I sometimes wonder if we aren't just creating our own destinies through a sort of psychological feedback loop; maybe we suggest a certain outcome to ourselves via suggestibility, and then somehow manifest it as if it were genetic conditioning or fate. It seems like every time a particular prejudice finally breaks down, the boundaries shift even further—they just keep blurring.

I suppose it all comes down to how much we cling to our own biases. People who are deeply wedded to their prejudices tend to pour an incredible amount of energy into defending them—not just against the rest of the world, but mostly against themselves. They try to force reality to bend to their preconceived notions, I guess, just so they can prove to themselves that they weren't wrong all along.
On the other hand, those who don't buy into their own biases quite so readily might be able to see—or rather, experience—the world through a much wider lens. By stepping outside that one narrow viewpoint, they end up being able to present their true selves to the world much more effectively.
Living a life dictated by prejudice is, in many ways, an easier path.
It’s strange, and perhaps a bit paradoxical, but the lives of people blinded by bias are often simpler than the lives of those who actually 'see.'
There’s just less work involved.

For those stuck in that mindset, their prejudices eventually become self-fulfilling prophecies. And honestly, what can you even do about that?...
People who aren't as controlled by these biases are less prone to being mastered by them, which makes them far more capable of genuine self-discovery. Of course, that makes them look very different from the masses living in a shared bubble of prejudice. That’s probably why prejudiced people view them with such suspicion—they intuitively sense that these individuals know more than they do.
Which explains why, in totalitarian regimes, the intellectuals are always the first ones targeted.
It isn't necessarily a massive loss to society, though I suppose it is... well, it's just not right. It lacks any sense of decency.
To be or not to be... a father? in Philosophy ·
swiftcobra15 said:I was actually inspired by a "women's topic" thread titled "What do you think about men?"
where most people just vent about bad fathers or offer nothing but pitying comments like, "poor things,"😁

Just to clear the air: I love kids (especially other people's 😁),
but that's not really a reason to want to be a parent myself.
There are more than enough children in this world already, and I don't see a personal need to have my own.

Well, I guess we have to travel back thousands of years to the era of the ancient Greek philosophers who loved carving whatever random thoughts crossed their minds into stone. One of those famous bits was "know thyself."
In that sense, you’ve already experienced what it truly means to be a parent.
Why did you decide to have kids in the first place?
Why, after the first one, did you go ahead and have a second?
And why a third after that?
And honestly, why did you choose to actually *be* a father once they were born? You could have just packed up, headed down to South America, changed your name, started a vineyard, and nobody would ever have found you.
Why stay? Was it because you wanted to, or perhaps because that’s what society expected of you? Or maybe it was simply because you wanted to be there for them? Why did you want to be present? What exactly were you trying to provide for them? And, if I may ask, why did you feel the need to give them those things?

As for me, I’d actually like to have quite a few children—maybe ten or so—since the government offers such decent agricultural subsidies for raising livestock. Beyond that, I’m planning on finding a very intelligent wife, because I recall hearing something in biology class that when two highly intelligent parents have children, those children often end up being merely average. So, if someone like me—who is, let's face it, significantly below average in intelligence—has children with a brilliant woman, then our kids might actually turn out to be Einsteins. Though, I’m not entirely sure I'll find a woman smart enough to realize my potential for massive stupidity while also agreeing to produce a whole brood of hyper-intelligent children just to chase those government subsidies.
I suppose I'll just have to rely on luck rather than brains.
If all goes well, those little Einsteins will earn a fortune, and eventually, they'll probably hand it all back to their old man to spend on drinks and bad decisions. Which, I suppose, is only fair, given that I’m gifting them both life and high intellect.

The only thing that could really ruin my plan is if I suddenly gain some common sense.
I try to be very careful about that. I watch plenty of TV (nothing educational, just mindless entertainment and politics), I don't read much, I don't do crosswords, I don't think too deeply, I don't play chess, and I spend a fair amount of time hitting my head against the wall...
I really have to keep my intellectual capacity low just to ensure I remain a viable partner for producing future Einsteins.
Self-Portrait in Philosophy ·
silentnomad23 said:How would you describe yourself—if you were to put it into song—and what does the concept of "the self" actually mean to you?
Can you describe, feel, or explain your own personality? How do you perceive yourself versus how you think the rest of the world sees you? In what ways do you observe your own being?

I suggest coming back in a few days to review your thoughts. Do you still stand by everything you wrote?
Do you feel as though your personality is becoming more blurred and undefined as you grow, or is maturity helping you become more distinct and defined? Perhaps a better word might be evolution
. And ultimately, what does the process of maturing or evolving truly signify to you?

There’s this persistent sense of detachment that sometimes creeps in—this feeling of being fundamentally disconnected from everyone else around you. It’s like there’s an invisible line drawn between who I am and who everyone else seems to be. I guess it’s that internal struggle of constantly distinguishing myself from the crowd, almost as if I'm perpetually trying to make sense of the gap between my own experience and the world at large. Maybe it's just how I'm wired, but it feels like a constant effort to navigate that divide.

Once we finally let go of that sense of self—once we truly become one with something much larger than our own little lives—that’s when it becomes possible to adopt a more diffused personality. I guess you could call it a broader identity, really. It’s at that point that we might start absorbing a shared morality, a collective way of thinking, or a unified worldview... even a shared sense of responsibility for our actions and things of that nature.
To put it more simply—if I can even call it that—the concept of "self" is only possible because we possess self-awareness. But what exactly constitutes this "self"? I suppose we’re discovering it every single day, really, as it gets illuminated through various lenses depending on the situation we find ourselves in. Since life presents us with an almost infinite number of these situations, and since our "self" is revealed differently under every unique set of circumstances, I suspect we will never truly see the whole picture. We could never experience every possible moment—nor, I imagine, would we ever be able to interpret them all correctly.

silentnomad23 Asks:
I suppose I could attempt to unpack my own personality—though, if I'm being honest, it feels like trying to catch smoke with my bare hands. It’s a bit of an abstract exercise, isn't it? If I were to try and explain how I see myself, I’d say I tend to be someone who lives mostly in the quiet spaces between thoughts—perhaps a bit too much, maybe. I view myself as a deliberate observer; I like to weigh things carefully before speaking, which I realize can sometimes come across as hesitation rather than intention. I think there is a certain sincerity in my approach to life—an earnestness that drives me to look for deeper meanings in even the smallest interactions—but I also struggle with a certain level of self-consciousness. As for how others perceive me... well, that’s where things get complicated. I suspect people might see me as somewhat reserved, or perhaps even a little detached—almost as if I am perpetually lost in thought. There is likely a sense that I am cautious, or maybe even overly analytical—which, I suppose, is true. Some might find my tendency to hedge my statements a bit frustrating—I know I do—while others might see it as a sign of thoughtfulness. It is a strange thing, really—how the version of ourselves we carry internally rarely aligns perfectly with the image reflected back by the world.

Of course I can vouch for them. I’ve been watching their work for quite some time now—though, I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean I've fully grasped the true essence of their character. After all, there is often a significant gap between how I perceive myself and how others see me—or perhaps, more accurately, how they *choose* to see me.

silentnomad23 said:How would you describe yourself—if you were to put it into song—and what does the concept of "the self" actually mean to you?
Can you describe, feel, or explain your own personality? How do you perceive yourself versus how you think the rest of the world sees you? In what ways do you observe your own being?

I suggest coming back in a few days to review your thoughts. Do you still stand by everything you wrote?
Do you feel as though your personality is becoming more blurred and undefined as you grow, or is maturity helping you become more distinct and defined? Perhaps a better word might be evolution
. And ultimately, what does the process of maturing or evolving truly signify to you?

I find myself occasionally revisiting certain moments—looking back at how I acted or how things unfolded—with a sort of detached, almost clinical curiosity. It’s funny, I suppose, because life itself feels like one long, continuous situation that never really pauses for reflection. But I’ve come to realize that simply observing my own reactions isn't quite enough. You can't just focus on yourself in a vacuum. To truly understand what happened, you have to look at the entire context—you have to consider other people, the environment around them, and even your own place within that larger picture. It’s about seeing the whole scene, rather than just staring at your own reflection.

silentnomad23 said:How would you describe yourself—if you were to put it into song—and what does the concept of "the self" actually mean to you?
Can you describe, feel, or explain your own personality? How do you perceive yourself versus how you think the rest of the world sees you? In what ways do you observe your own being?

I suggest coming back in a few days to review your thoughts. Do you still stand by everything you wrote?
Do you feel as though your personality is becoming more blurred and undefined as you grow, or is maturity helping you become more distinct and defined? Perhaps a better word might be evolution
. And ultimately, what does the process of maturing or evolving truly signify to you?

I wasn't actually standing by that—not even when I was originally writing it.

silentnomad23 said:How would you describe yourself—if you were to put it into song—and what does the concept of "the self" actually mean to you?
Can you describe, feel, or explain your own personality? How do you perceive yourself versus how you think the rest of the world sees you? In what ways do you observe your own being?

I suggest coming back in a few days to review your thoughts. Do you still stand by everything you wrote?
Do you feel as though your personality is becoming more blurred and undefined as you grow, or is maturity helping you become more distinct and defined? Perhaps a better word might be evolution
. And ultimately, what does the process of maturing or evolving truly signify to you?

I don't think it can really become more defined or less defined. I mean, it just is what it is. It isn't being shaped or altered; rather, we are simply becoming more aware of it. What truly evolves is our own understanding of that self.

silentnomad23 said:How would you describe yourself—if you were to put it into song—and what does the concept of "the self" actually mean to you?
Can you describe, feel, or explain your own personality? How do you perceive yourself versus how you think the rest of the world sees you? In what ways do you observe your own being?

I suggest coming back in a few days to review your thoughts. Do you still stand by everything you wrote?
Do you feel as though your personality is becoming more blurred and undefined as you grow, or is maturity helping you become more distinct and defined? Perhaps a better word might be evolution
. And ultimately, what does the process of maturing or evolving truly signify to you?

A deeper sense of self-knowledge, I suppose.
As for change... well, they say a wolf sheds its fur, but never its nature. I wonder why we tend to think humans are somehow different—it feels a bit pretentious to assume we can fundamentally rewrite who we are.
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
Tyler Evans4 said:Who even gets to decide what counts as useful and what doesn't?

Think about it this way—if you have someone living under your roof who doesn't cause any trouble, but also doesn't lift a finger around the house, eats your food, drinks your supplies, and just piles up more bills for you to pay... would you really consider that person a productive member of the household, or just a burden?
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
mistyfox812 said:And what if people used a referendum to vote that all atheists should just be kicked to the curb?

Well, in that scenario, I suppose I’d just declare myself a theist.

In other words—this is such a difficult category to truly verify, isn't it?
If someone were to point a gun at my head and demand to know what I believe, I guess I’d tell them whatever they wanted to hear just to survive.

I mean, even Galileo ended up recanting his most vital, fundamental truths about which rock orbits which planet when faced with the threat of death.
And that—well, that is a much more significant matter than whether or not I personally identify as an atheist.

So, why shouldn't I just renounce my atheism under those same circumstances?
I have this impression—maybe I'm wrong—but I suspect many atheists would claim to be theists if they were forced into such a blunt, simple choice.
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
silverfox6 said:Actually, you aren't a society—you're just an individual.

🙄
I think you know perfectly well I wasn't suggesting that I personally constitute a society—rather, my point was that society is the entity capable of deciding (and indeed, deciding) on a vast array of things. By that logic, society would also be the one making calls about who is considered harmful and who is seen as beneficial.

In any case, society is what dictates which side of the road you drive on, sets your speed limits, tells you that stealing is wrong, and even decides where you can or cannot relieve yourself. It determines whether someone is deemed sane or not, can strip away a person's liberty, or even commit them to a mental institution...
Essentially, society dictates a staggering amount of our lives.
Or, perhaps more accurately, society defines a huge portion of who we are.
So, why wouldn't it also decide which individuals to eliminate simply because they are deemed detrimental to the collective?
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
brightgardener40 said:And who are we to decide who's useful and who isn't? Honestly, I've got kids and parents to worry about, so you're already stressing me out.👎

We are a community.
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:Look, hate is just part of being human. I’m not out here suggesting we wipe out everyone who has undesirable traits—because, honestly, let's be real, nobody is perfect. I'm just wondering... what if we euthanized, or just didn't allow the birth of, people who will never have even a theoretical chance at contributing anything to society? If you actually care about the community, then every single member matters. But if someone is just draining resources without giving anything back, they're basically hurting the group. So, I guess their existence only makes sense from an individual standpoint, but it comes at the expense of everyone else.

Euthanasia—well, I suspect that would be an incredibly difficult road to go down.

Melissa Rivera5 said:Look, hate is just part of being human. I’m not out here suggesting we wipe out everyone who has undesirable traits—because, honestly, let's be real, nobody is perfect. I'm just wondering... what if we euthanized, or just didn't allow the birth of, people who will never have even a theoretical chance at contributing anything to society? If you actually care about the community, then every single member matters. But if someone is just draining resources without giving anything back, they're basically hurting the group. So, I guess their existence only makes sense from an individual standpoint, but it comes at the expense of everyone else.

In a way, that's already happening.

Melissa Rivera5 said:Look, hate is just part of being human. I’m not out here suggesting we wipe out everyone who has undesirable traits—because, honestly, let's be real, nobody is perfect. I'm just wondering... what if we euthanized, or just didn't allow the birth of, people who will never have even a theoretical chance at contributing anything to society? If you actually care about the community, then every single member matters. But if someone is just draining resources without giving anything back, they're basically hurting the group. So, I guess their existence only makes sense from an individual standpoint, but it comes at the expense of everyone else.

I don't think that's quite right. You see, a community isn't just built on material things—it's also spiritual in nature.
The idea of euthanizing living people would probably damage that foundation much more deeply, and I think it would have a devastating effect on our social fabric. Since everyone has their own subjective definition of what constitutes an "undesirable" trait, someone could easily argue that if we can eliminate these specific traits, why not those others as well?
And what would that leave us with? A society riddled with conflict, where everyone is constantly proposing the removal of certain groups because they are seen as a "drag on progress"—essentially creating a cycle where people just fight over who should be next.
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
I suppose I should probably mention that I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the hadron—though, honestly, it feels like such a massive concept to wrap one's head around. It's just one of those fundamental building blocks that makes everything else possible, I guess. It’s strange, really—how these tiny, subatomic particles essentially dictate the structure of our entire universe without us ever being able to see them directly. Maybe there's something a bit humbling in that, isn't there? To think that everything we experience—every single thing—is ultimately built from these incredibly small, vibrating pieces of matter. It’s a lot to process, I suppose. kaže:
I find myself mostly in agreement with this... I think there is some truth to what's being said here—though I suppose there are always nuances we might be overlooking.
It seems to me—and I realize this might be a controversial take—that certain groups, like those struggling with mental health issues, career criminals, or even retirees... they just seem to exist without any real sense of purpose or contribution to the community. It’s a tough thing to process, I guess, but it feels like they're just drifting through life without much direction.
It feels a bit pointless when you think about it—so many people make up a huge chunk of the global population, like designers, athletes, or artists... and yet, they aren't really using these tools directly. Especially the athletes, I guess; they seem to stay pretty far removed from the actual process.

They’re basically just wasting away—mostly because nobody seems to know how to actually use them properly. I guess it's a bit of a shame, really.
I’ve been thinking lately—and I know this might sound a bit out there—but athletes who are constantly on the road for competition... they really should be considered for intelligence work. I mean, think about it. They travel the globe, moving through high-level circles and staying in places most people could never access, all while being perfectly positioned to observe things without raising an eyebrow. It’s almost a wasted opportunity, I guess.
I suppose you could say that athletes aren't exactly suited for manual labor—not that they don't work hard, mind you—but the kind of physical strain you see in jobs like construction or heavy manufacturing is just... different. It’s a different type of exhaustion, I guess. While an athlete might push their body to the absolute limit during a game, it's highly specialized, repetitive, and focused on specific muscle groups. It isn't quite the same as the grueling, all-day grind of hauling materials or working on a job site in the heat. They're conditioned for bursts of intense activity, whereas heavy labor requires a certain kind of sustained, punishing endurance that most pros probably wouldn't find particularly intuitive.
I suppose we should be looking into shifting retirees toward roles that are a bit more physically and mentally manageable—something less taxing on the body and the mind, I guess.
I suppose we’re moving into the territory of high-level criminal operations—things like orchestrating large-scale thefts or even the systematic seizure of territory and assets from other nations. It goes on and on like that, I guess.
Eliminating those people would honestly just be a waste of resources—resources that, if we’re being realistic about the state of our economy here in America, we simply don't have to spare.

I suppose I should probably mention that I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the hadron—if you can even call it that anymore after everything we've seen lately. It feels like we're constantly chasing these microscopic particles, hoping for some grand revelation, yet we just end up with more data to sift through. Maybe I'm being too cynical, but there's a certain weight to the way these experiments unfold—it's almost exhausting how much precision is required just to prove what we already suspect might be true. I guess it's just part of the process, though. kaže:
Where exactly is this all headed? I can't help but wonder—is anyone else feeling this sense of uncertainty about where things are going?

Joining the ranks of the useful.
I’m part of a society of independent professionals—people who don't have any need for the usual fluff like manicurists, makeup artists, stylists, or dog walkers. We already know how to handle all that ourselves, and frankly, we prefer to. It seems to me that if all those resources were actually redirected toward something productive, they could be retrained to do work that truly matters.
Should we get rid of the "useless" ones? in Philosophy ·
silverfox6 said:Who actually gets to decide who’s considered useful and who isn't? It's a question that really makes you stop and think, doesn't it?

I mean, look at someone like Hitler; he was a complete and utter maniac, honestly quite unwell. He dealt with a whole laundry list of physical and mental health issues, though he was incredibly skilled at masking them from the public eye. And it wasn't just him, either—even his inner circle, those key lieutenants who were always right by his side, weren't exactly free from their own various disorders and disabilities. Just take Goebbels, for instance. Talk about a cruel twist of fate.

And really, who has the right to make those kinds of calls about anything at all?
Did you personally decide that AT&T should be sold off, or was that just handled for you?
On what authority did they even make that choice instead of you—and supposedly on your behalf?
Zoolander in Movies ·
wiredranger30 said:Just your typical Hollywood trashy film.

I guess you've got enough material here for a new signature.
Zoolander in Movies ·
Personally, I think my favorite part is at the very end when Stiller shows up looking totally out of shape and yells, "Damn you, Chuck Norris," because Chuck was the one who voted for the extensions in the border patrol bill.
That’s honestly what got me the most—just seeing how Stiller had been so lean up until that point, only to suddenly be this heavy guy, visibly fuming because Chuck pulled a fast one on him.
Love and Loving in Philosophy ·
possessiveness isn't really about the relationship itself—it’s about the individual.

In other words, I suppose possessiveness isn't an inherent quality of love, but rather a trait of the person involved.
Selfless people are capable of loving without being possessive.
Though, honestly, those kinds of couples are incredibly rare—and frankly, most people don't even gravitate toward them because they can seem a bit too perfect compared to the rest of us.
Welcome to the Coast! in Philosophy ·
I’d like to kindly ask one of the female administrators to please stop starting new threads so frequently.
Welcome to the Coast! in Philosophy ·
So, instead of having just one Dalmatian moderator, we’ve suddenly ended up with two.

I suppose some people around here might be starting to feel like there's a bit too much Dalmatian hegemony going on...

p.s. I hope your workload stays light.
(I'll try my best not to give you too much trouble)
🙂
Are vegetarians actually smarter? in Psychology ·
misery- said:Oh, come on, William Gonzalez3—you're just clinging to your guns like a drunk holding onto a pier, claiming meat is "necessary" just so you don't have to reconsider your own positions.

not really.
I'm certainly not the type to go around explaining to someone else who happens to be more intelligent than whom.
Nor am I interested in dissecting anyone's mental makeup or anything of that sort.

The real aggressors in this entire saga aren't those aggressive, bloodthirsty carnivores.

Rather, they are the people right in your own backyard.
It's them who question everyone else who is different.
They are the ones who separate themselves from the rest with such disdain.
They are the ones who start threads about others—and themselves.
Degrading others, mostly.
While self-aggrandizing, of course.

My stance is pretty straightforward, I guess.
Most people need meat.
Our civilization is built for carnivores—because, frankly, they are the ones who built it and continue to shape it into what it is today.
And I don't think habits change unless the whole structure of civilization changes first.
By leaning into these tedious, sweeping generalizations about intelligence, and by adopting that somewhat condescending tone, vegetarians might actually achieve the exact opposite of their intended goal—or perhaps they don't want to achieve it, because then they wouldn't feel quite so special or superior, which seems to be a huge priority for many here.
By being so aggressive and acting so high-and-mighty, all they'll really do is foster resentment
from most people toward themselves, effectively grouping themselves with other loud, deviant minorities, like certain LGBTQ+ groups, for instance.

Threads like this don't actually help bridge the gap between different worldviews; instead, they draw a very sharp line between those deemed "worthy and progressive" and those dismissed as "backwards."

Whether you want to admit that to yourself or not.
This topic, and ones like it, seem designed more to convince vegetarians of their supposed superiority.
If the intention were a serious investigation into these phenomena, I suppose I would participate quite earnestly.
But there's just no need for that here.
And what are you even doing up this late?
tsk tsk tsk.