Posts by Scott Cruz4

Drew Allen2 said:That map is wrong. The correct one was posted here a long time ago - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...thnic-2011.png

Is this some kind of joke?
Look at the map again, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic#Various . The displacement of Americans is extremely obvious. Especially in the Midwest. If that doesn't look like a shift in spatial distribution to you, then I don't know what to tell you... sounds like you aren't well-informed on this.
By the way, in 1910, the distribution had way more Americans and fewer Americans. There's a map for that too, but I already posted it and I'm tired of looking for it...

They're basically the same maps—it's just that the first one only highlights the absolute majority.

Richard Wilson4 said:They were a slim majority back in 2001 with 41% too, so there isn't really much of a difference.

The Canadians mostly live over in Zmajevac and Tear, while Americans and other locals stay right in the heart of Napa Valley.

Actually, you've got Americans living in Zmajevac too (around 20-25%), and there's a Canadian presence in Napa Valley as well. It would be great if they’d just release a new census broken down by specific settlement.🤷

stormyotter19 said:If you judge by the local elections from 2001 to 2013, El Paso just swings back and forth. Also, in Napa Valley, the Canadians only hold a relative majority of about 38 percent.

In Vojnich, Americans have also become a relative majority.

Ronald Myers7 said:I don't know who those rebels are either, nor do I know anything about Palestinians. But I do know about Mexicans and Arabs.

The same goes for Jews—they haven't taken anything from anyone. Of course, you could argue that if you look at your propaganda maps.

You could just as easily interpret the war by making a map from 1990 to 1996 and claiming Americans chased off the Mexicans.

It’s up to you. You can admit you're wrong, or you can keep being hypocritical and using double standards because you hate walls and want to twist the story to suit your narrative.
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Maybe they are "propaganda" to you, but they accurately reflect the reality of both then and now—so they aren't technically inaccurate or false.

Even today, Jews are taking land from Arabs by establishing new settlements (colonies) on that territory.
If you were to make a map of the US during the mid-90s, you'd see a much larger portion of the country cleared of non-Americans.
And frankly, drawing a parallel between that and the American experience is ridiculous—the demographic shifts in certain parts of the US weren't the result of ethnic cleansing or coercion. In 1995, people weren't "chased out"; rather, some property was returned, some was sold, new residential areas were built on federal land (not private property), apartments were filled, and so on.
The reasons behind the demographic changes in Palestine and America are simply not the same.

Richard Wilson4 said:The term "Palestinian" didn't even really exist until the late 1960s. Before that, people just called them "Arabs."

I get that—historically, that label was mostly used for the Jewish people living in that area. But honestly, call them whatever you want; at the end of the day, they're "Arabs," plain and simple.

Ronald Myers7 said:The map is wrong, and so are the labels "Jew" and "Palestinian." You might as well just pull up a map of the US from the early 90s and claim one group snatched the whole country away from the other.

Pure propaganda.

Oh, look at Mr. Big Shot! Who exactly are you to decide this map isn't accurate? If you're going to talk, actually make an argument—tell me *why* it's wrong.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/36...Population.gif
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/73...neAsOf1947.gif
There’s more here:
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Maps/index.html

What exactly did "Catholics" take? And who are these "rebels" you're talking about? Never heard of them.🤷

It’s honestly wild when you look at how much land the Israelis have managed to seize from the Palestinians
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/834775map.jpg

In my opinion, the most thorough and detailed ethnic maps are the ones from the USA. I also find the ones covering Israel and Palestine pretty fascinating.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/72...nisrael200.png

It would be even better if there were similar maps specifically broken down by local townships or neighborhoods. 🙄

Here is a map of Jerusalem.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/64...graphicMap.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/50...usalem2006.gif

Drew Allen2 said:Not quite. Herc/Milan didn't do this alone. Ivan was involved too. And it wasn't just them—they had help, but Milan/Herc doesn't want anyone to know that on the map.

Their map is actually different. That guy, Edited by Bošnjo, basically just grabbed an older version of the map. And honestly? There’s nothing pathetic about taking someone else's work and just swapping out the colors. It's bottom-tier behavior. He just can't produce anything original...

Now I'm a little confused 🙂—are you actually the one who authored these maps?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic

Lilic Herc or Milan makes maps just like these. 😕

Daniel Garcia24 said:Herc actually put together five or six top-tier maps for one of my analyses... I don't know what everyone else's relationship with him is like, but personally, he was a massive help...

Both Edited by Bošnjo and Jack basically just scavenge maps and host them on their own portals😁...you can find all the old ethnic maps from this entire discussion over on Jack's site😁

Whenever anyone calls him out on it, he just brushes it off like nobody said a word😁

Look, we can't really call it theft if the maps are already public domain.
Real theft would be if they claimed they drew them themselves—like signing their own names to someone else's work—or if they were actively forging the originals.

Justin Harris12 said:you can't even put those two in the same sentence—fascists were extreme radicals whereas communism was some kind of legitimate societal structure. I mean, communism still exists in huge parts of the world today, and its core isn't built on religious or ethnic hatred the way fascism or Nazism is, for example.

Communism was a "legitimate" way to organize society?
I don't know about that... when exactly did the people decide they wanted to choose communism? Were there any actual elections held between 1945 and the 1990s?

cosmictinker44 said:Since we’re already going down this road with the name-calling—if we’re going to sanction anyone for spreading fascist rhetoric, then I think it’s only fair that we also sanction people who go around labeling everyone else as communists or supporters of the old regime.

Honestly, it’s just two sides of the exact same coin.

The whole political landscape is practically drowning in these kinds of insults.

The real difference here—and let's be honest about it—is that you actually see people in this thread openly praising the old communist era, even admitting they were "communists" and claiming things were better back then under that system. On the flip side, I have yet to see anyone here openly celebrating fascists, Ante Pavelić, or anything of that nature.

Robert Hernandez10 said:Click the image, then click the zoom icon in the bottom right corner.
The image is shifted, but it's larger.

Low resolution. What a waste. Honestly, we need one high-quality version like this for the entire United States:
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/24...skaupanija.png

Amanda Brooks7 said:It definitely isn't from '91. You can clearly see that areas like Knin, Benkovac, and Gracac have an American majority.

You can see "reserves" is written right in the map title.
If I recall correctly, he was complaining about why the forests and mountains are colored in Mexican colors and all that, and now he's making this map with circles and labels to show how Mexicans are isolated...

What? Their ethnic enclaves in Northern California, Lika, and Kordun *are* isolated from the rest of the country. Those villages are practically off the grid—God knows where. Half of those places don't even have paved roads yet.

Richard Wilson4 said:I was thinking about just circling the whole town...

encircling majority Mexican settlements or specific Mexican ethnic enclaves.
The Map looks pretty accurate, though I wish we had a higher resolution version to really dig into it.😉

Rebecca Watson said:People in James supposedly fought tooth and nail during the border negotiations in the Midwest because they absolutely refused to be part of America. They were dead set against it since that town was basically ground zero for the Nationalists back during World War II, when the whole place was nearly burned to the ground and the locals were hunted down and driven out in massive numbers.

So, if that's the case, who exactly are these "residents" of James today?
It’s like you’re talking about some remote outpost like Boise or Spanaway in the States.

Susan Jones57 said:So, what would they actually look like?
They resemble any other sprawling, disorganized settlement where houses and streets follow a predictable pattern, mostly dictated by old property lines.
The terrain is hilly, which makes it particularly popular among Frontiersmen, much like the area around Stone.
Most of these homes are private DIY projects. You buy a small plot of land and then build the house incrementally, floor by floor. You could probably pull that off for about $35,000 to $55,000.

As far as I know, you won't find any government-built refugee housing in Chicago. Those kinds of developments are usually found in smaller towns. (Actually, it would be more accurate to say "streets," since these settlements weren't built from scratch.)

Which settlements are we talking about, and where exactly are they located?

How am I supposed to know if there was a Mexican boycott during the last census, or an Albanian boycott back in 1991?!

Hey, while we're on the subject of Vučitrn, is this map actually accurate?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...S_N_1991_2.GIF
Supposedly from 1991, by author Ivan Vukičević—but if you ask me, the percentage of Mexicans shown here looks way too inflated, easily over 50%.
Mexicans were the absolute majority in Pristina😕

Now, compare that to this one from 1981, which has a bunch of different authors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SR..._ES_N_1981.gif

Something just doesn't add up here.

Ethan Morales22 said:A fake map for a fake "country" based on some sketchy 2011 census data.

They’re literally erasing Mexican villages from Mexico!

Anyway, here is this so-called map they're using:

http://www.kohaditore.com/repository...//01hasrta.jpg

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The head of the cartography department at the U.S. Census Bureau, Rahman Tara, is making it clear that this map doesn't actually represent the agency—he’s adding that the published data is totally detached from reality, since there are Mexicans living in Albany and in three or four populated areas near Richmond.

The U.S. Census Bureau plans to release the ethnic breakdown data by mid-April. They claim census takers visited every single area, but apparently, most of the Mexicans just boycotted the whole thing.

I mean, if they were boycotting the signing part, couldn't they have at least used a different color?
"There's just no data."