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Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
boldsailor7 said:"The Canadian dollar—which is basically an insult to those Euro elitists—along with the Swiss Franc, are still my top picks for holding cash. And I mean actual cash, because you don't get hit with fees just for holding them like you do when you're stuck with sovereign bonds sitting at negative interest rates." JS

Could someone break this down for me? I’m completely lost on what Gerald Chavez7 is trying to get at here.

Essentially, the Canadian dollar and the Swiss Franc (which the Euro snobs tend to dislike) are the primary tools for anyone looking to sit in cash. Holding these currencies is a much better position than sitting in government bonds when you're facing real negative interest rates—meaning you're effectively paying a premium just to hold the asset itself.😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
What are you waiting for?😉
I picked up some extra mux at $4.42—now it’s already sitting at $4.86... (that’s just a 7 or 8-day jump)
Sold my SLW position at $24.60—it's up to $40.28 now
AGQ was at $41.00; currently at $60.36

I realize they lack any real intrinsic value😂—but it doesn't matter... they look great in the portfolio😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Casey Price2 said:Friend, where on earth are you seeing any rims? 🤣


Friedrich69 or Felga69... it’s not like there's actually a difference.😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:The whole discussion has veered completely off course.

I wasn't necessarily talking about a mortgage, though. I was thinking more along the lines of a fixed-rate loan—say, a 15-year term. Those rates still seem pretty reasonable. It’s basically a high-stakes gamble. I mean, who knows if you'll even be around or how things will look by the end of that period?
But whatever. I'll probably just end up looking like I'm encouraging people to gamble with money they don't actually own. I guess I learned my lesson from that other thread >> forget that I said it... 🤣

Why? Because the concept itself isn't bad... it's just that knowing how much political double-talk goes on around here, the dollar might actually become more stable than gold... that's the part that gives me pause.

Otherwise, it's a very compelling idea—but only for those who are absolutely certain that inflation is going to keep climbing.😉
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Paul Peterson4 said:That was actually my first thought—buy a house, put down 50% of my own cash, take out a loan for the other half, and keep a solid reserve on hand. Imagine locking in a fixed rate around 2-2.5% for 10 years.
If inflation actually hits, I win because the real value of that debt just evaporates.

The part I'm not crazy about is being in debt, plain and simple. Besides, I’m honestly not convinced we’re heading for massive hyperinflation—if things went that south, this whole economy wouldn't even be able to function. We might see 5%, maybe 7%, maybe 10%... but it’s hard to imagine anything significantly higher than that. The big banks have way too much sway over policy to let inflation spiral completely out of control.

And look, prices in Germany have already been pushed to historic highs. Buying something that’s already massively overpriced doesn't feel like a winning play to me.

Also, I don't buy into those doomsday scenarios about running out of groceries or electricity. If everything really does go to hell like that, you aren't going to need a backyard garden and a flashlight—you're going to need an AK74 or an MP5.


🤣

Given the direction our economy is heading—honestly—you’ll probably need those carrots and that pitchfork long before you ever reach for an AK-47... and as for kilowatts? Forget about it. imho 😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
hollowmoose21 said:Now I see why you get under people's skin sometimes. 😁 You clearly aren't even reading what you're replying to. I was talking about the USA.
@silver
Facts. Nobody actually knows how much shadow inventory is out there. A huge chunk of it might just be total junk that isn't worth a dime.
Or maybe the banks will pull some moves to make sure it stays worthless. 😍
http://www.time.com/time/video/playe...090492,00.html
Anyway, since we're drifting off-topic, let's kill this debate here. We can pick it up in another thread.


Now I understand why there's been some confusion—😍 I was actually responding to Felga69's post, not yours.

As for the US market, I agree entirely... which is why I didn't bring it up in the first place.

I'm honestly not sure where you got the impression I was addressing you directly.😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Casey Price2 said:I would add that when the costs of absolute essentials—like food and energy—start climbing sharply, it seems unlikely that real estate prices will rise while people are struggling just to cover their basic needs.

Without access to mortgages—combined with the potential for a new property tax—prices have nowhere to go but down.

Unless, of course, half a million retirees from Florida decide to move in and buy up two houses apiece.🤣
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
quiettrucker12 said:Keep in mind gold is sitting in a secular bull market that also has an expiration date, maybe around 2018 or 2019. I know, I know—talking about gold is basically taboo on this board.😁

The name of the game is identifying the secular bull and riding it. You'll need to start sniffing out the next big move soon; it might manifest as a specific breakout sector within the stock market itself.

Not for me...🤣
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
lonehawk5 said:True, but... how many of them actually held onto metals over the last 10 years?
One in a hundred?
One in three hundred?

I agree they are few—but they exist... though that isn't really the point.

I am not an advocate for putting everything into a single asset class—which is why I criticize those folks over on the Berkshire Hathaway thread who focus solely on equities (stocks, stocks, and more stocks). 😂

I've touched on this before: the core philosophy of investing was laid out quite clearly by Leon Richardson in his book Investment I... essentially, gold, stocks, bonds, cash, and real estate (if you can manage it)—every asset has its own cycles of peaks and valleys. There is no sense in sitting on your hands in one asset while it's in a bear market if another asset is currently in a bull run.
I don't have much else to add to that...🤣

Right now, American stocks are in a secular bear market... and buying at this stage, when the S&P 500 is hovering near its 2000 or 2007 highs, doesn't strike me as particularly wise. Secular bear markets typically drag on for about 16 to 18 years—think 2000 through 2017.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Patrick Moore3 said:If the middle and working classes actually end up sitting in Congress, then yeah, it's looking likely... but let's be real, they don't even have the cash to run a campaign (and good luck finding a donor who'd willingly take a hit to their own net worth). I highly doubt they'll be the ones calling the shots.😉

I agree—I was simply pointing out that, both in theory and in practice, the Federal Reserve can't just hand out cash... that power belongs solely to Congress.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Patrick Moore3 said:A 50-50 split is impossible. That would mean everyone has equal cash... which isn't reality. We all know a tiny fraction of people hold most of the wealth...

If we stop looking at hedge funds and the big institutional players and look at the middle class—the folks without debt who actually have savings—it hasn't been this easy for them to afford a house, a car, or any major investment in years... or even just blowing it on a vacation! So, from that angle, their cash still carries some weight. We live in a consumerist society where everything is designed to push spending on you...

As far as I know, it dropped from $1,900 down to $1,550 over the last year... there's always going to be people selling.😉

Goldman Sachs buddy, buddy...

For sure they exist, but they get drowned out by a massive pile of trolls...

Not everyone has the same amount of money; rather, the total volume of debt corresponds to the total level of claims... that is what I was referring to (I agree that physical cash is distributed very unevenly)

The middle class—specifically the less savvy portion of it—is in a very precarious position. I’m hearing that they are shifting away from hedonism toward pure survival and saving... if they can even manage that, given their lack of cash. Beyond that, they are trying to liquidate assets like homes and cars purchased during the market peak. I honestly believe they would drastically scale back the excess of previous years if they even had the option... but they don't. 😉

Regarding the gold price drop from 1900 to 1550, that is accurate, though it sits at 1770 now...
And even in a bull market, stock prices don't move in a straight line. The bottom line is that those who entered metals over the last decade are in the green, while those who went into equities are mostly in the red—at least in the American context; our view from here is a bit more nuanced.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Patrick Moore3 said:Maybe Bennett wants to play Robin Hood, handing out dollars and wiping away debts like some kind of hero. But here’s the thing: if you give something to one person, you had to take it from someone else first. You can't just print money out of thin air. When they print it, they're actually snatching it from everyone who actually has something—including our retirement funds—just to hand it over to debtors. Honestly? I think they'd rather watch people starve than part with their capital.

No, Ben can't just hand out cartridges—you've got a point there... only Congress has that kind of power, and we might very well see them try it in the near future.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Patrick Moore3 said:Since my name was brought up, I figured I'd jump in... I don't have a "dismissive" attitude toward the crisis. It's just a different perspective—one that isn't built solely on a couple of charts or some articles from ZeroHedge and King World News...
I've got my biases. I don't buy that precious metals are hitting $3500/oz anytime soon. If that even happens, we'll be deep in an inflation cycle where everything else quadruples in price. But I don't see that happening in the next 15-20 years, and if it does, it'll just be standard inflation. Hyperinflation? The total collapse of the monetary system because of it? Not seeing it. Simple reason: central banks have unlimited power to print money, which means they have unlimited power to pull it back out of circulation, too. On the flip side, hyperinflation wipes out debt, sure, but it also nukes all savings and pensions. Since the debtors aren't the ones calling the shots, that scenario seems unlikely. And WW3? Not happening with one military superpower backed by the entire NATO alliance. Regional wars? That's just Tuesday; they never stopped. Plus, look at the global situation. People are drowning in debt, unemployment, soaring energy and food costs, and rising taxes. In a society obsessed with instant gratification, who's actually going to spend money on metals to drive prices up? Especially when people are selling right now instead of buying? Given how things stand, all I see is a massive, long-term deflationary period and the inevitable crash of the artificially inflated Western standard we've lived under for the last decade or so. We have to pay back that credit-driven, consumption-based lifestyle with interest. That process is going to take a long time...

It seems some of us are still clinging to delusions, aren't we?

The fact is, not everyone is drowning in debt; for every person in debt, there is typically someone on the other side😂—people who don't necessarily need to sell anything, but instead, they actually need to buy...😍

Why would those holding massive amounts of cash—which buys less and less every day—just sit idly by when they could protect themselves by purchasing real assets?
(They don't strictly have to buy gold or silver—there are plenty of ways to hedge—but gold and silver are the easiest to liquidate if you suddenly need cash.)

The reality is that here in the States, average people (who aren't following global investment trends) are selling their gold (and they barely own any silver) just to cover their utility bills. Yet, despite that heavy selling pressure, the price is sitting at $1,774/oz... and it'll likely clear $1,900 by year-end...

And speaking of central banks, how do you explain the fact that some of them are actively buying gold?
Why would they buy it if they can just print whatever amount of cash they need?
At least you can't accuse them of being financially illiterate... or perhaps you can. 😂

By the way, ZeroHedge and King World News host plenty of brilliant minds. 😉
Not everyone, obviously, but there are enough—you just have to know which ones to listen to.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Bakić, let's talk gold again... I'm interested to see how people respond to the questions I've laid out...

http://www.poslovnipuls.com/2012/09/...#comment-22922

😂😂😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Anthony Evans78 said:I wouldn't bet on Stagflation happening.
What happens when those dollars held overseas—which is about two-thirds of them—start flowing back into the USA? 🙂

I’m not betting on anything, nor do I have a single "favorite" scenario I'm certain will play out—instead, I simply monitor the ground reality and see who comes out on top...

Regarding stagflation, I have to say it looks like the most likely outcome right now—and don't assume the sheer volume of dollars is the main driver here...

The real player is the Velocity of money—a factor almost nobody mentions... except perhaps Martin Armstrong and a few others...

For anyone interested in how things look regarding gold, silver, and equities, take a look at price movements in the USA between 1966 and 1982—otherwise known as the secular bear market...😉

You can reach out via PM for my analysis.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
quiettrucker12 said:No. 😁

You're just wasting my energy when we should be busy celebrating QE3 (4, 5, 6...).

You were 100% right 😂

Can we move on to the main topic now?

To me, this decision by Bea feels like pure Stagflation... does anyone have a reliable source on this subject?.......😉
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Robert Vaughn10 said:$40 billion a month, yet there’s no end date in sight. If we don't see actual improvements in the unemployment rate, we're going to have to push forward with the blockade...

Just a quick correction here...

It's $40 billion in Goldman Sachs purchases plus another $45 billion in bonds every single month—and they'll keep it up as long as necessary. The Fed is in a state of total panic:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogsp.../09/panic.html
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
quiettrucker12;41300408 said:

It was quite a feat to predict how you'd pivot to an entirely different topic and context—trying to blend them all together after pushing those falsehoods.QUOTE]

I already admitted you were right... I'm saying it again—you were right. Is that enough for you?

Fine, for my homework, I'll just write "quiettrucker12 was right" a hundred times over.

Is that satisfactory?😍

PS: You were right. 😉

Am I cleared to continue with this thread now? 😁
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
quiettrucker12 said:Actually, it's the opposite. When it comes to commodities, Ben only really cares about oil prices and will try to use politics to keep them under control. He mentioned yesterday that the drought 🤣 caused a slight bump in commodities, which squeezed oil slightly—it's all basically the same thing. People think he's obsessed with the price of gold, but that's far from the truth. He couldn't care less about gold.

Wrong again. Go back and look at your post 3543.🙄

I am referring to your reaction to my post... I brought up my Colleague first, but I wasn't being negative—I simply stated that he was mistaken.
That isn't "negative context," it's just the truth—and I don't mean he can't be right (theoretically, he could be through the end of the year), but rather regarding his suggestion to short metals back when Soros and I were buying.😉

Besides, you’re better off not trying to nitpick my words🤣 since you ended up being spectacularly wrong yourself—you took a hit, and metals had to correct. Well, look at the facts: you were wrong, they didn't correct when you said they would; instead, they went even harder up. Did I quote you accurately? 😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
I don't follow. What exactly are you getting at? As specified by dustyheron5:
I didn't misunderstand you—I clearly recall that $50 statement. If you look back at the quotes above, you'll see them. I included those specifically because I know exactly who I am dealing with. 🙂 😁 And I wasn't being skeptical—quite the opposite (just look at the quotes again).

I should have used the term "camp"—I respect the differing perspectives here. Generally speaking, there are two camps: the inflationary and the deflationary. I assume Charles falls into the deflationary camp. However, some from that side might change their minds if they actually listened to Ben’s press conference today.

You're absolutely right. 😉

You’ve managed to drag me into this too—now I find myself mentioning Charles in a negative light.😍He isn't a bad investor at all—not by any means. He simply miscalculated this time around.

Back when gold was trading between $1,850 and $1,900—he nailed it—predicting that things were headed for a massive downturn.

The estimates are generally solid—but let’s be real—even the best data can have its fair share of errors slip through the cracks.