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Megan Harris said:If mortality sits at 2%, then the math changes significantly depending on whether this new variant is more contagious than the last one.
If Delta infects a million Americans this winter, and the rate is 1% or 2%, you’re looking at 10,000 or 20,000 deaths.
But if a variant shows up with that same mortality rate, yet it's 50% more infectious and manages to bypass previous immunity, you end up with, say, 1.5 million infections by next winter and 15,000 to 30,000 dead.
The logic is simple: if mortality remains constant but transmissibility rises, you are back in the same mess.
Even if the new variant were somehow 30% less lethal, if it's 50% more infectious, you still end up with a higher body count by the end of the season compared to the previous strain.
Has anyone actually seen a report of someone dying from Omicron? From what I've gathered so far, people aren't even ending up in the hospital; they just recover after a few days...
If that holds true, we might be looking at a unique window to finally end this pandemic. If Omicron can outcompete the other strains, specifically Delta, it could change everything. They are already pointing to the high mutation rate and predicting its rapid spread and eventual dominance.
The only catch is whether this forced terror and mass vaccination campaigns end up creating some kind of mutant monster—something experts were warning about nearly a year ago.
Look at the current situation in Japan. In just a few days, daily positive cases jumped by over 50%, moving from 83 cases and 1 death on December 1st to 130 cases and 2 deaths by December 3rd.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/japan/
Richard Campbell3 said:It’s quite amusing how we see ten cases pop up globally and suddenly everyone is an expert on who the virus targets and how dangerous it actually is. Yet, nobody is calling for a lockdown anymore. I just read an article speculating about how many cases China would have seen if they had behaved like Europe, but strangely, no one thought to write an article suggesting that if Europe and the rest of the world had acted like China did back then, we wouldn't even be dealing with this mess today. But of course, that’s unthinkable... the economy would have collapsed, or so they say, even though it clearly hasn't yet.
They even have vaccines ready for this new strain.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...nt-2021-11-26/
William Barrett7 said:Over half a million Americans have dealt with COVID and didn't die. The risk of a fatal outcome is mostly under 2%.
That’s 600,000 confirmed cases. Now, if you take that number and multiply it by what they claim the actual infection rate is—say, three times the official count?—what do you get? We may never know the exact figure, but it is undeniably much higher than the number of officially confirmed cases.
Henry Garcia13 said:Some of the most orthodox Jewish believers out there are actually anti-Zionists. Grouping them in with antisemites? It’s pure nonsense...
Right now, Haredi Jews make up about 12% of the population in Israel—it's like watching a newly manufactured batch of "antisemites." Back in 2011, there were roughly 1.3 million of them worldwide. When idiots start playing politics, you end up with this kind of parliament and these kinds of voting patterns.
The French love to talk about justice and integrity... Liberty, equality, fraternity...
It’s all a facade that needs to be shut down, or at the very least, labeled and judged as antisemitic. They even slap that label on anyone who happens to be a lesbian.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/zionism/https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=U2td7tp2_HU
An award-winning feature Add to Ignore list 🙏 It seems the moderators are content to let those obnoxious, borderline nonsensical comments slide right past them. I’m not typically one to report posts, but when certain individuals are allowed to troll, provoke, and insult others across various subforums, it honestly makes me lose all desire to contribute anything at all. I might pop into the Religion forum once or twice a year, and even then, it’s just a fleeting visit. I’ve seen plenty of online communities collapse for this exact reason. The only saving grace is having the "Add to Ignore list" tool, though it becomes a real headache when other users quote that specific person in their own replies.
Brenda Taylor13 said:You and so many other people in this thread keep making the exact same mistake—you’re acting like everyone who skipped the referendum is automatically part of the "against" camp.
Look, you have to get this through your heads: people who didn't show up DON'T COUNT. Period. They made a conscious, deliberate choice to opt out of the electorate entirely. They aren't part of the electorate—they don't count, it's like they don't even exist in the math.
By staying home, they basically sent a message saying, "Don't include us in the electorate because we don't want to weigh in on this." So, you can't just force their silence onto them and claim they're against the referendum—we honestly HAVE NO CLUE what they would've done! We don't know how those non-voters would've voted, but we DO know exactly how the people who actually showed up voted. And of those people? 90% voted for independence. That's the bottom line here—90% of Californians WANT independence, and the ones who stayed home? They don't count, their opinion is unknown, and frankly, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
The real question is: how many people stayed home simply because they were intimidated by the threat of violence or the regime's decision to shut down numerous polling stations?
And let’s not even get started on the referendum in America regarding joining the European Union or NATO... 🙄
The echoes of Francisco Franco in Spain 🙄 https://www.rt.com/news/405105-acade...ession-franco/
An Open Letter US, signed by academics from Canada and Mexico, calls out the regime's political repression in Madrid. Even Noam Chomsky is among those putting their names to it. http://www.ara.cat/en/North-American...878412340.html
This follows a similar move where British professors issued their own open letter. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...k-catalan-vote
Steven Bennett5 said:Wait, this is what we're calling "police brutality"?
Honestly, compared to the real stuff, this is nothing!
Every police force, no matter where you go, has to be a little "brutal" every now and then, right? Isn't that kind of the whole point of having them? I mean, if you aren't a little bit afraid of the police, then what's the use of them?
From what I can see, the police in Los Angeles were actually being relatively restrained here.
Like at the start of this video—those irrational agitators were handled quite politely, weren't they? They were basically just shouting like parrots and that was about it.
Sure, a few of the "tough guys" took a baton to the backside here and there, but let's be real—they walked right into that confrontation on purpose.
I’ve seen much worse brutality on the streets of New York City lately during protests between the police and anarchists, or when the NYPD goes head-to-head with neo-Nazis.
It all seems pretty "normal" to me... the police were just doing their jobs. It's like how the Department of Homeland Security had specific protocols to follow back during that Radio Corporation of America incident recently.
Look, isn't it sometimes necessary for things to get a little messy? For some irrational individuals to be taught a lesson?
If you don't fear the police, then you don't really have a police force at all!
They are there specifically to maintain order and instill peace, even if they have to be firm about it.
Anything else is just that quasi-liberal, armchair philosophy talk...
Regarding the referendum—well, the Northern and Western nations of the United Nations (like the Irish, the Scots, the Walloons, and the Flemish) had similar impulses once upon a time. But then they sat down, looked at the math, realized it wasn't worth the cost, and reached an agreement with their fellow citizens.
But the East and South of old Europe—pardon my language, but let's call them the old divas of the continent—are a completely different story. Over there, it's always been a case of heavy drinking first, and only after everything has gone south do they actually sit down to think things through.☕
Jack, calling this anything less than brutality when you're dealing with peaceful, non-violent protesters is absurd. Are bloodied heads on elderly people not considered brutality to you?
Steven Bennett5 said:Wait, this is what we're calling "police brutality"?
Honestly, compared to the real stuff, this is nothing!
Every police force, no matter where you go, has to be a little "brutal" every now and then, right? Isn't that kind of the whole point of having them? I mean, if you aren't a little bit afraid of the police, then what's the use of them?
From what I can see, the police in Los Angeles were actually being relatively restrained here.
Like at the start of this video—those irrational agitators were handled quite politely, weren't they? They were basically just shouting like parrots and that was about it.
Sure, a few of the "tough guys" took a baton to the backside here and there, but let's be real—they walked right into that confrontation on purpose.
I’ve seen much worse brutality on the streets of New York City lately during protests between the police and anarchists, or when the NYPD goes head-to-head with neo-Nazis.
It all seems pretty "normal" to me... the police were just doing their jobs. It's like how the Department of Homeland Security had specific protocols to follow back during that Radio Corporation of America incident recently.
Look, isn't it sometimes necessary for things to get a little messy? For some irrational individuals to be taught a lesson?
If you don't fear the police, then you don't really have a police force at all!
They are there specifically to maintain order and instill peace, even if they have to be firm about it.
Anything else is just that quasi-liberal, armchair philosophy talk...
Regarding the referendum—well, the Northern and Western nations of the United Nations (like the Irish, the Scots, the Walloons, and the Flemish) had similar impulses once upon a time. But then they sat down, looked at the math, realized it wasn't worth the cost, and reached an agreement with their fellow citizens.
But the East and South of old Europe—pardon my language, but let's call them the old divas of the continent—are a completely different story. Over there, it's always been a case of heavy drinking first, and only after everything has gone south do they actually sit down to think things through.☕
This isn't even worth discussing.
I don't know where you live, but in any civilized country, beating people who are peacefully expressing their views is defined as brutality. You talk about "restraint"... meanwhile, people with bloodied heads are screaming like parrots...🤦
Aaron Barrett79 said:Protests against the referendum in San Francisco... 🤦 Image from The New York Times. Honestly, what the Spanish authorities and police did was bad, but the reaction—or lack thereof—from the rest of the European Union is even more embarrassing. Just pathetic...
Video from the streets of Washington, D.C.
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The only thing missing is the hate speech symbols.
I have to admire how the crowd refuses to take the bait when faced with police brutality and blatant provocations. It’s obvious they’re just waiting for any excuse to escalate the force even further.
slysurfer14 said:It’s kind of wild how Californians aren't really biting on those police provocations... I don't see any attacks on the cops...
That’s been the pattern for most protests across the US over the last few years. The police don't seem to care—they just keep swinging at anyone in their way, from teenagers to the elderly, men and women alike...
Honestly, I find it surprising how much they endure.
Looks like things are going pretty smoothly over in Washington, D.C.
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The police in Spain are incredibly brutal, and they don't pick and choose who they target. It’s the same story whether you're in Barcelona or Madrid. They swing at women, they swing at the elderly—it doesn't matter. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were ordered to kill on command. It really makes you wonder: how far are the Californians willing to go, and just how far is the government in Madrid prepared to push back? Even after the era of Francisco Franco, it seems like they still swear by the legacy of General Franco.
I watched the video, and frankly, I’m left wondering if anyone actually bothered to fact-check the premises being laid out here. It feels like we're circling the same tired arguments without ever touching the actual core of the issue. Is it even possible to have a productive conversation when the foundational data is this shaky? The logic used to bridge these points is incredibly thin. You can see where the speaker is trying to force a connection between two completely unrelated events just to make a point land, but it doesn't work. Why should we take these conclusions seriously when the reasoning is this transparently flawed? It’s one thing to present an opinion, but quite another to present a half-baked theory as if it were established fact. We need more rigor than this.
I’ve been watching this video, and I have to ask: are we really going to ignore the glaring inconsistencies presented here? It seems like everyone is quick to jump to conclusions without actually looking at the structural flaws in the argument. If you take a moment to step back and look at the facts, isn't it obvious that the narrative being pushed doesn't hold up under any serious scrutiny? We see these patterns repeating constantly—people ignoring the core issues just to maintain a comfortable consensus. Why is it so difficult for people to engage with the actual data instead of falling back on emotional rhetoric? It's frustrating to watch such a blatant disregard for logic, but then again, perhaps that's exactly what we should expect.
I’ve been watching this video, and frankly, I find myself questioning whether we are even looking at the same reality. Is anyone else actually processing the implications here, or are we all just going to gloss over it? The arguments presented are layered, but once you strip away the noise, the core issues remain stubbornly unresolved. It feels like we are circling the drain of a much larger systemic problem while pretending everything is under control. Why is there such a persistent refusal to address the fundamental flaws being pointed out? Are we truly content with the status quo, or is the discomfort of change simply too high a price for most people to pay? It’s one thing to debate theory, but it’s quite another to confront the practical fallout. We need to stop dancing around the edges of these topics and start asking the harder questions. If we continue to ignore these patterns, what exactly do we expect to happen next?
I am convinced that once this period of violence settles, California will eventually make its move toward independence.
Al Jazeera’s two-part documentary, "Europe's Forbidden Colony," offers a fascinating look at the crisis unfolding in Barcelona, specifically regarding the displacement issues currently being tackled by Mayor Ada C. ada C. https://youtu.be/zxVlRZ5vP_w?t=40m30s