Posts by Alexander Parker69

Alexander Parker69 said:Yoga is purely occult stuff!
Every single enlightened master who hailed from India had their own specific methods—methods that have absolutely nothing to do with Yogom-st—which is why they went looking for kindred spirits in China and Tibet! Period. 😁

Look, Yoga is actually one of the six classical philosophical systems.
When we talk about it as a technique, it doesn't just mean the "raja yoga" you’re likely picturing in your head. The most widespread form is bhakti yoga, which is essentially what Christianity is, along with karma yoga.

Then there's gyana yoga, which is closely related to Buddhism, for example.

Buddha didn't go hunting for like-minded people in China or Tibet; he found them right there in India. It was the Chinese and Tibetans who traveled to India to import knowledge, just as preachers from India eventually moved to other countries, though that mostly happened quite a while after Buddha passed away.

The only ones really spreading their reach outside of India were Buddhists; Hinduism remained fairly insular until very recently, functioning much like a nationalistic movement even today. This is probably why, in the West, people tend to equate Yoga with Indian spirituality in general—because the physical techniques are easy to package and sell, whereas the deeper spirit, the wisdom, and everything else that's hard to wrap up in colorful, cheap, shrink-wrapped cellophane meant to look like a wallet-sized souvenir is much harder to market, even if those deeper elements make up the bulk of Indian spirituality compared to just stretching and staring at crystals.

So, I have to ask: which enlightened masters were supposedly searching for peers in Tibet or China if they weren't followers of Buddha?

P.S. It is a rather amusing thought, isn't it? To imagine that all these enlightened masters just coincidentally popped up all over India and then scattered like rabbits wherever they felt they might be better understood. If such a receptive and spiritual environment had existed in China Buddha would likely have emerged there instead of in India.

apop said:..let’s not forget that all the Bud He were born over there—whereas in that chaotic corner of the Middle East (Jerusalem), there was only master Issa!
The carpenter's son ends up on a wooden cross! 😂

Gautama, and I suspect the previous Bud He being discussed here as well, were actually born in India 🙂

apop said:If anyone actually takes a second to look closer, they’ll realize that West-India is the REAL East!
And because of that, it’s much more aligned with our dear Western friends!
For instance, Indian philosophy is nothing more than trivial, occult nonsense.

And honestly, what has ever actually come from the "West" to benefit the "East"?
It’s always been the other way around—absolutely everything!
The only cultures the West ever truly called its own were the Celts and the Vikings!

Even Christianity arrived from the East! 😂

Care to elaborate on that?

What exactly makes Indian philosophy purely occult? And what part of it is "trivial"?

And define "true East" for me. Aside from Taoism and Shintoism, most of those traditions originate in the Far East if you trace them back to India anyway. Even with Taoism, it’s debatable since it relies so heavily on typical yoga exercises.

Herpes said:Well, why don't you just relax a little bit then, my "enlightened" Alexander Parker69!
👋 👋

It’s because a woman might actually be interested in something substantial, unlike certain "types" of people out there.😉

The kind of nonsense you're peddling is exactly what drives people away from true spirituality, turning them into nothing more than armchair philosophers rather than actual practitioners who follow paths like Zen or Buddhism. If you had managed to inspire even one single soul to offer up a sincere prayer, you would have achieved something far more meaningful than all this endless, hollow philosophy.

Herpes said:Well, Enchantress, we certainly got off to a smooth start, but it seems Alexander Parker69 just can't stand the thought of anyone else entering the ring. Just look at the previous thread.
😛 😛 😛

Spirituality isn't some kind of competitive sport.
There is no such thing as competition here.
When figures like Shivananda, Raman, Buddha, or Jesus speak, I have absolutely nothing to argue about; frankly, if someone significantly more brilliant than I am hasn't already affirmed a truth within the realm of spirituality, then I’m not going to waste my breath trying to reinvent the wheel. All this posturing you all engage in—this attempt to turn empty philosophy into a vehicle for self-promotion rather than actually upholding higher ideals—is utterly worthless, and I honestly fail to see why I should give any of it a second thought.

Enchantress said:Alexander Parker69, should one pray or not?

Yes.

Herpes said:Maybe try actually living your life for once, Alexander Parker69! Being lazy isn't some kind of spiritual milestone. Honestly, even the simple, gritty life of an American farmer carries more spiritual weight than your so-called sadhana. You don't go around babbling and acting like a genius when you're in samadhi. Experiencing samadhi is actually quite straightforward, though clearly not for a complicated creature like yourself.

Oh, please. How many people do you actually know who have ever experienced Nirvana? It’s an incredibly rare phenomenon. For most people, just reaching the summit of Everest would be the achievement of a lifetime. I myself caught a mere glimpse of it once, during my most intense period of sadhana, even though back then I had far more desire for it than I do now—more than just sitting here philosophizing—and I possessed much more knowledge and data years ago. Yet, none of that translated into practice. Given how much useless rambling I've had to endure from you, I highly doubt you've actually experienced even a fraction of what you claim to talk about. 😉

Herpes said:Try using some of that logic you seem so obsessed with focusing on. It should be obvious even to you that transcendence is a state of consciousness that exists beyond both the subject and the object—it moves past all those processes happening in between. How on earth is one supposed to achieve a transcendental state if the subject refuses to stop fixating on an object? Wherever there is mental direction, there are objects present. Concentration is nothing more than pinning your attention onto a specific target. Pure consciousness, by its very nature, is stripped of any experience involving objects.

Blah, blah, blah. Instead of playing philosopher, why don't you actually commit a few hours a day to various forms of sadhana for several months before you start lecturing everyone else? Acting like an expert is cheap.

Enchantress said:You've got a point there, Eric Wells3... 😢

Actually, Eric Wells3 is dead wrong.

apop said:That's just plain wrong! Real meditation happens right in that sweet spot between those two states!
And let’s be clear—meditation is *always* situated between two states.
What you're describing is nothing more than simple concentration.
We have to remember that true meditation is a state of consciousness, not merely a function of the mind!

If you want to insist on being right, then fine, have it your way.😁 🙄

Eric Wells3 said:You end up looking like one of those stereotypical Easterner caricatures from an old cartoon.😁

You just babble this pseudo-profound nonsense that sounds wise on the surface, but honestly, you could use it as toilet paper. You’re basically trying to pose as Coelh.

That only works if the whole thing is systematized, properly guided, backed by actual theory, and built upon a disciplined lifestyle with rock-solid spiritual, religious, or dharmic foundations.
Otherwise, it’s nothing more than playing dress-up. It's like picking up a rosary with zero connection to Christianity and just twirling it around because you think it looks cool or helps with stress relief; 😁 it isn't going to have any meaningful impact whatsoever.

Every single meditation session begins with concentration. It’s quite simple, really: the more you direct and master your mind—the more you actually observe the internal processes happening within it—the better your concentration becomes. People often mistake meditation for just drifting off or getting lost in some hazy daydream, but that’s a misconception. True meditative states are actually the byproduct of intense concentration, not just mindless relaxation. If we look at the progression of dharana, dhyana, and samadhi... we're talking about concentration, then meditation, and finally "transcendence." You have to understand that meditation itself isn't just some standalone technique; any specific method you use is merely a precursor to dharana, or concentration. Meditation is the result—it is the state achieved when the mind reaches a singular, unwavering focus.

Amanda Evans29 said:Concentration? Isn't that what causes cancer?😂

No, but you’ll probably end up with some kind of inflammation. That would actually be a logical outcome if a rudimentary organ—like your brain, which seems to be completely offline most of the time—suddenly decided to start functioning at full capacity.

restlessmarlin6 said:But meditation... man, that is some heavy, intense stuff right there. 👍

it’s actually pretty damn cool, honestly, and just works out really well 🙄 😁

Simona said:Wait a second, isn't meditation just another one of those Eastern concepts?😕

Actually, if we're being precise, meditation is an integral component of yoga—specifically dhyana, which serves as the penultimate stage of Ashtanga yoga. And much like the various other systems within the practice...
Yoga, when you look at it through a proper lens, encompasses every conceivable form of spiritual discipline, rather than being strictly limited to Hatha yoga or physical asanas.

You completely overlooked Anderson 😂

Enchantress said:So, which yoga technique would actually be more compatible with Christianity? (I think I finally get what you mean now. 😉 )

Honestly, Christianity is already its own form of yoga...

You go to Mass instead of performing pujas; you take the Eucharist instead of offering prasad...

Prayer, the Rosary, or even Hesychasm—though that’s a dying art these days—serves the exact same purpose as japam or mantras...

What else would there even be to change?

If we really wanted to lean into those Indian methods, perhaps it's just a matter of swapping out the figures. For instance, sitting in the lotus position with your gaze fixed on the bridge of your nose or near your heart center instead of focusing on Vishnu, and rather than chanting specific mantras, you simply repeat a short, rhythmic prayer.

Or maybe it doesn't even need to be that complicated. 😁

Ryan Wilson2 said:Speaking as someone who identifies with the Satanic current, I’d argue that consciousness is the absolute cornerstone of everything we do.

I mean, sure, anyone could just claim to be some kind of Buddhist, a Taoist, or a Tantric practitioner... honestly, they could pick any label they wanted. But if that's the case, what actually gives this specific path its unique edge compared to those other traditions?

Maleficent said:Then again, there isn’t much point in sticking around for just a few days or weeks after being born… I mean, what could an infant possibly learn in such a tiny window of time? 🤔 😕

The baby is actually a genius; they realize immediately that this whole existence is just one big, chaotic mess and decide to make a quick exit.

Taylor Campbell4 said:Alexander Parker69, look, if we don't see eye to eye, then let's just agree to disagree; I have absolutely zero interest in getting dragged into some massive, exhausting debate on this platform.

Then what exactly is the point of you being on this forum? From everything I’ve gathered, the whole purpose of a community like this is to actually engage in discussion, not to have someone essentially pitch their own little cult while expecting everyone else to stay silent or pretend they aren't against it just to keep the peace. 😁