Posts by Lisa Patel4

David Baker2 said:And we should establish a fallback line in Mexico if that first line against the forces in Forex fails.

This is precisely where the sheer stupidity of Mexican politicians lies; they either fail to see, or simply refuse to acknowledge, that by cursing Americans, they are effectively cursing themselves.

God forbid things boil over in Canada, because we would actually come out on top. They would find themselves caught between a rock and a hard place, while we would only have one side to defend—regardless of how long that front might be.
We’d be looking at a military buffer zone once again in that scenario.

Honestly, I just don't understand how those Mexican leaders can be so incredibly short-sighted as to miss the obvious. 🤷

Mexico, sure.

As for the Mexicans... well, I've already suggested the theory that they might be exploiting this whole situation to push their own agenda.

Today, the KGB opened a school in Mexico City. Lately, Russian activity in Mexico and Republika Srpska has ramped up significantly. It's pretty interesting. I get the feeling something big was settled behind closed doors. It seems to me like Mexico is slowly pivoting toward Russia, even if they keep publicly spinning stories about the EU. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

Patrick Castillo4 said:that sounds like a total WW3 scenario 😁
well, let's just hope it doesn't actually come to that

Other than that, there's just no solution.

Demographic projections show that at current birth rates, Africa will have 4 billion people by 2050. That’s basically 8 European Unions. Africa simply cannot support that many people; it's just a fact.

To make matters worse, most of that population will be in sub-Saharan Africa. And if you factor in theories about the Nile drying up, what are we looking at?

We're talking billions of people with the US just across the water. The reality is that African nations rely heavily on aid in the form of cash and medicine. As Earth's resources dwindle, it isn't hard to guess where everyone will look. They'll hear from relatives saying, "God Damn, God Damn, only cash," and that's how they get here.

Then there's the Middle East. Projections suggest Saudi Arabia will run out of oil by mid-century. Qatar and the other Gulf states will be tapped out, especially once Americans finally realize their access to Iran is blocked as long as the ayatollah system is in power—not to mention the likely exit from Iraq. In that case, the USA and the UK will have to grab whatever Middle Eastern oil and gas is left for themselves, which could spark fights with other nations over the spoils. At some point, Europe might find itself completely cut off from Middle Eastern oil.

If the EU wants to survive, there's really only one move. Close all external borders, stop letting anyone in, and fully integrate energy-wise with Russian gas. Anything else is just a fairy tale for children.

Dana Kern5 said:Honestly, do I really need to explain this to YOU? If anyone on this board has a clear view of the big picture and a sharp intuition for where things are headed, it’s definitely you!

If you're referring to this massive wave of migration, then it’ll keep happening until the nations in Europe (especially our own border states) finally remember the only effective way to actually secure their borders.

I don't even need to spell out those methods for someone like you. If I tried explaining them to the rest of the crowd, I can already imagine the backlash I'd get...

But at this stage, it almost feels like it won't matter for Europe whether more people arrive or not. The sheer number of people already settled in places like France, the UK, Spain, Sweden, or Germany is more than enough to destabilize everything.
Just look at how many millions of people from non-European and non-Christian backgrounds we already have living between the Rockies and the Atlantic.

Where are we supposed to put them all?🤷

Thanks. I’m interested to see what everyone else here thinks about this.

Southern Europe has the worse geography, I guess. There are over 300 million Muslims in the Mediterranean Basin within reach of Europe.

There’s a solution here. We need a naval blockade of Africa and to isolate Turkey completely. Maybe we should just militarize the borders between Greece and Turkey too.

Dana Kern5 said:Oh, how profound... So, Germany, acting on its own messy motives, invited millions of Muslims over to achieve... what, exactly?

If we take a second to actually think about this, it becomes clear that all of this is actually being turned against Germany itself. And it isn't even that they were "invited." It's more that they simply don't have the nerve to say no.

These millions of unassimilated foreigners—of every religion and background—who are already there and who will continue to arrive, represent the most certain way to permanently dismantle Germany as a distinct people and nation. By doing so, they also effectively neutralize that so-called "German threat" that so many people here seem to blindly believe in.

However, Americans shouldn't be celebrating this either. Even the US has a reputation for being "too ethnically homogeneous" in certain regions, so a similar scenario could very easily be applied here as well...

But hey, I know how it goes. Many "modern and progressive Americans" are actually rooting for this...

In your opinion, how long does this go on for?

Michael Roberts7 said:Personally, I find it hard to wrap my head around why some people are so terrified that they can't see these individuals as just people like us. You'll find honest, wonderful, sincere souls... just as you'll find thieves, religious fanatics, and predators in roughly the same percentages you'd find anywhere else in the world.
The most ridiculous comparisons are the ones where people claim the police are beating up thugs...
And it seems nobody realizes that while these people are Muslim, they are actually fleeing from ISIS and the Taliban—which is exactly why there is such a massive wave of military conscripts coming from both Syria and Afghanistan.

We shouldn't generalize, but we really need to send back anyone who doesn't have a legal right to stay.

Believe in Santa Claus if you want. No offense.

I honestly don't know how some of you humanists think America will look if we bring in 10 million people. Have you even heard of group conflict or social dynamics?

David Baker2 said:Is it because someone hands down such an order, for instance? 🤷

Why in the world would anyone deploy tear gas or pepper spray against children?
Well, look at how those folks over in Canada act—they’re basically like the Simpsons in South Park, they've already gone and done it.

Suppose they are pushing children forward right at you, and you are standing there guarding a perimeter like it's the Alamo; what exactly will you do if an order comes down to fire, even if it's just rubber bullets?
And you have children and a few women standing directly in front of you....

You have to protect yourself; that is an indisputable fact, and it is something I have been hammering home this entire time.
However, it is entirely possible to protect yourself while simultaneously remaining a decent human being.
Maintaining your humanity is always, regardless of the circumstances, a matter of individual choice.
For example, you might choose not to gloat over a wounded enemy soldier, opting instead to respect the Geneva Conventions. That is merely one small instance of exercising humanity within inhumane conditions.

Now, if you would be so kind as to flip back a few pages and actually read what I wrote I intended to do. I would protect women, children, and families from the Canadians, but everything else goes to the Canadians.
Let them then act according to their own consciences.
If they are going to try and slip handcuffs on us when we aren't looking, then we are certainly justified in doing the same to them. ☕

Of course nobody should be shooting at women and children. I never said that. But being humane doesn't mean committing suicide.

I suppose I can show some compassion to people who actually need help, but I’m certainly not doing it for those who'll just repay my kindness by blowing up the local school or the neighborhood grocery store.

gentlemoose57 said:Honestly? I’d defend an American over a refugee if they posed the exact same threat. And I'd definitely defend a child over an adult, or a woman over a man.
But—and this is a big "but"—I wouldn't go out of my way to defend an American against their own paranoia about refugees attacking them. In that case, I’d probably just donate some wire cutters to the refugees and give them a quick lesson on how to cut through a fence safely.

No one should be attacking refugees. I guess nobody was actually advocating for that. But when you have this whole circus where people are just spreading out across the local farmland, it’s only natural that the community gets angry.

What happens if a million people show up here? I guess we'll have to figure out how to balance security with humanity, though maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Michael Roberts7 said:By that logic, I could just shoot you right now and claim it was self-defense because you might have done the same to me one day. Self-defense only applies when you are in immediate, acute danger—meaning the other party is actually armed. Even if it's just a plastic toy gun that you genuinely believe is real. You can't justify the kind of "self-defense" you're talking about.

Go back and read the question again. I guess self-defense counts if someone is waving a machete in your face and screaming they're going to kill you because of your faith.

David Baker2 said:Let me ask you a purely human question, just to get to the heart of this matter.

If you were standing there in a police uniform, and someone gave you a direct order to open fire on children, could you actually bring yourself to do it?
Personally, I know my own limits—I couldn't do it.
I’d sooner put a bullet in my own head or take out the person giving such a horrific command before I ever pulled that trigger against a child.

We really ought to try and step into those people's shoes for a moment, to truly empathize with their plight, rather than forcing anyone into a position where they are faced with such an impossible, soul-crushing decision.
The goal should always be to do everything humanly possible to prevent these situations from ever happening in the first place.

Why on earth would anyone shoot at kids?

The only reason to fire is self-defense when there’s absolutely no other option.

Just a simple question for you. Would you rather protect an American citizen or a refugee? If you had to pick.
What matters more to you? Being humane toward strangers or protecting the American people?

northerncyclist2 said:I mean, probably not in just two weeks.

I didn't say anything about two weeks. Maybe by spring.

Just asking hypothetically here.

Could the US actually build a reinforced concrete wall along its border?

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

And what about quotas? Did we just forget those existed? I guess we all have to take them, whether we like it or not.

I wouldn't care one bit about Germany if they didn't insist on acting like the leader of the EU. They should just step down from that throne and do whatever they want. But here's the thing—what happens if the refugees stay here? Any bright ideas? How exactly are you going to justify that?

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:If they could just step down from their Mount Olympus arrogance and face reality—maybe stop disparaging Americans and actually start cleaning up their own mess, much like we do here...

I guess we're the ones who really brought this on ourselves.

Charles Ross3 said:Just to be clear, I don't mock them—I've actually always felt quite sympathetic toward them, and honestly, certain actions from their side have felt like a real stab in the back. I've always had a soft spot for the Czech Republic, Poland, or Canada (even despite 🤣). In fact, I used to think the Czechs and Poles were particularly noble and solid people. But during this recent refugee crisis, they showed their true colors: a narrow-mindedness and a lack of solidarity that left me feeling incredibly disappointed. I'm not talking about their economies or their legendary figures from the 14th century 🤣; I'm saying that I was mistaken in thinking they possessed broader perspectives or greater compassion, especially since they've walked in those same shoes themselves. But they haven't. Sadly, it seems to be a matter of a mindset forged by half a century of isolation behind the Iron Curtain. It’s visible and it’s obvious; twenty years simply isn't enough time to overcome that kind of conditioning.

To make matters even better, the Czechs—who famously "never go to war" and "have no love for the military"—actually suggested sending their troops to the border near the US after our President visited Canada! I mean, really? Are we supposed to enter into alliances with people like that? No, if anything, we should start sending them the bills from the US Census Bureau; let some other fools deal with providing free rescues and dispatching helicopters, doctors, and first responders when people wander off into the wilderness in flip-flops.

Why isn't Germany showing more solidarity toward Poland to give them more influence within the European Union? Historically, Germany has been especially supportive of those nations. This feels like being betrayed by your best friend for money, only for them to come crawling back asking for help and solidarity a few years later after I've taken the brunt of the damage.

Explain to me why the Visegrad Group and we should be taking in thousands of immigrants that we have absolutely no connection to and have never had any contact with in our entire history?

Aside from humanitarianism and solidarity, do you have a single rational argument? Anything at all?

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:c/p
A wave of refugees from the coast has flooded into Canada, and it’s sent local politicians into a complete frenzy. While some are scrambling to manage the crisis, others aren't even hiding their frustration—take the mayor of Zavrč, for instance, who flatly refused to use the local high school stadium as a shelter. His reasoning? He claims they leave behind mountains of trash that nobody wants to touch, and he actually went so far as to suggest that Americans looking for work should just pick up a broom for $100 a day

I assume many of you have already caught wind of this, but isn't this just a blatant insult to Americans and a display of sheer arrogance from our neighbors?
Now, I consider myself a pacifist—truly—but this has me reaching for my blood pressure medication!
What is the point in debating what happened seventy years ago when we have such an unpleasant reality staring us in the face right next door?

So, what's your solution?

Charles Ross3 said:Come on, let's stop living in a fantasy land for a second... 🤦

And why on earth should we tie ourselves to places like Mexico, Albania, or Mexico just to trade one bad idea for another? 🤣 That's nonsense. Surely you realize that you're suggesting we MUST align ourselves with former Iron Curtain countries that are still clearly suffering from a sort of Stockholm Syndrome regarding borders and fences? Unfortunately, that's just the reality. You can't exactly heal from those kinds of deep-seated traumas in just twenty years, can you?

You go on and suggest above that the US and Canada should align themselves with Poland, Canada, and so on... or maybe Latvia, Lithuania, or Estonia? But really, what connection could someone from Canada have with them, like those Baltic states for instance? 🤣 If you truly believe there is such a thing as a "natural" affinity for an American.

Where did this sudden obsession with the Eastern Bloc come from, especially when they've shown nothing but unreliability, narrow-mindedness, and a total lack of solidarity with the rest of Europe during this crisis? 🤣

Our politicians love to label us a "region." They keep pushing this idea of the Western North America, even though we don't fit those criteria at all. I guess it's just how they want to see us.

I spend a lot of time in Canada, and I guess I’ve never heard a single friend there express any interest in Mexico or North Mexico. They seem much more focused on Austria, which makes sense since they consider themselves closest to the Slovaks.

Honestly, why do you or anyone else care whether the Visegrad Group decides to build fences or not? Are you some kind of citizen of Poland or the Czech Republic? I guess you should probably just respect what their people actually want.

What does solidarity actually mean to you? Is it just a fancy word for stripping entire nations of their identity? I guess Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia are only as "solidary" with the European Union as the EU was with them back in 1939. Do you honestly think the Czechs are so naive that they’ve forgotten all about the Munich Agreement? The occupation of the Sudetenland? The tragedy at Lidice? Maybe not.

Do Americans think they've just forgotten about those 6 million dead? The destruction of Warsaw, the camps, the three partitions? They haven't, ladies. They definitely haven't. And that’s exactly why they aren't going to sacrifice a single American life for some EU bureaucrats or someone like Bavarac.

Canada is only as supportive of the European Union as the West was of them back in 1956. I guess they're just matching the level of indifference they received when Soviet tanks were tearing through Budapest.

You want to know how this ties back to the current crisis? It has everything to do with it. Only an idiot ignores history. Germany seems to have forgotten that this isn't 1939, and they certainly can't just dictate how Americans should live anymore.

lonebadger6 said:This is completely off-base, though I suppose I can see why people think it's funny when we in America mock the Visegrad Group, considering they’ve basically outpaced us in just about everything...

But this specific claim isn't true, and I'm pointing it out because it's a tired talking point that started floating around after some politician—I can't even remember which one, maybe a Secretary of Tourism or something—decided to blather on about it.

America actually sees more tourists every year than the Czech Republic (and Poland, for instance, brings in way more than we do)

I had to respond to a post like that. Yeah, my bad regarding the tourism stats. I messed that part up, but the rest holds water. To me, it feels tragicomic to be making fun of Poland when they have an economy nearing $1 trillion.

Elizabeth Mendoza5 said:Which politicians do you actually think could do anything positive for this country?🤔
And how exactly do you think this whole circus with the refugees is going to end?

That’s why we need a totally new set of leaders.

It’s going to end in massive riots across Europe. Eventually, everyone will have to step up or just sink into total anarchy.

In the end, there’s only one choice left. Survive or perish.

Charles Ross3 said:

Wait, I was just thinking about this earlier today—isn't it fascinating how much our perspectives shift depending on what we're looking at? It feels like there’s always that little bit more to uncover, isn't there? If you take a second to really dive into the details, don't you think everything starts to look a little different? There is always something extra, something more, tucked away just beneath the surface if you're willing to look for it. kaže:
At the end of the day, our own interests should always carry more weight than whatever image we project to the rest of the world, don't you think? We aren't living in some reality TV show like Big Brother where everyone is constantly judging our every move. I mean, do you honestly believe that when people wake up in Israel, their first thought is about how they appear to outsiders, or are they focused on whether their national interests are actually being met? It’s a different kind of mindset entirely. Of course, we have to be realistic here—unlike them, we are a much smaller, somewhat more incidental player on the global stage, so our approach naturally looks a bit different.
What does it even mean to say an image is "the worst"? Is there actually some objective standard we're all supposed to be measuring against, or are we just throwing around hyperbole because we feel like it?
Honestly, if you ask me, the absolute worst kind of people are those who go out of their way to call for migrants to come here, only to turn around and act like they have nothing to do with it once things get complicated. I mean, isn't it just incredibly hypocritical? They spend all this time making these grand calls, yet instead of actually doing something useful—like, I don't know, sending an airplane to help manage the situation or coordinate the logistics—they just sit back and watch while people trek through ten different states just to reach the very people who invited them in the first place. Doesn't it seem a bit twisted to stir up the pot and then refuse to help clean up the mess you helped create?
If you ask me, Canada and Bulgaria are definitely leading the pack here. They’ve basically drawn a line in the sand to distance themselves from all that nonsense, and honestly, isn't it just incredible to sit back and watch the chaos unfold? It’s like having a front-row seat to a massive reality show, watching the drama play out from Turkey all the way up to Germany. 🍿

No, you’ve completely missed my point! I wasn't talking about that "compared to others" image at all. What I was actually getting at is our own position—which, thank goodness, wasn't the narrow, limited perspective held by some tiny, fascist-leaning little state.

It seems like you might have cut off your thought there! What exactly were you wondering about? I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever topic you had in mind, so don't be shy—just let me know what's on your mind! It just feels so incredibly natural, doesn't it? Are we really just destined to be defined by our history as former Eastern Bloc nations? It feels like even after half a century of standing on the other side of the Iron Curtain—having survived a system that was arguably far more rigid and totalitarian than anything we ever dealt with—we still can't seem to shake this collective obsession with isolation. Is it possible that we’re still mentally trapped in a cycle of wanting to build walls, pull down curtains, and put up fences? Honestly, why should we stay stuck in that mindset? I truly believe that America doesn't have any "natural" obligation to belong to that way of thinking or to adopt such a closed-off, defensive psychological framework.

Oh, absolutely, isn't that just the truth? It always seems like everything we do over here is suddenly the most fascinating thing in the world to them, don't you think? 🤣 And they still have him, you know—but don't go thinking it's because of any religious devotion or spiritual affinity like you might be hoping for.

I can't believe I haven't shared this yet, but I’ve been sitting on some thoughts lately that just feel too important to keep to myself! Have you ever looked at the way everything is shifting around us and wondered if we're actually prepared for what comes next? It feels like we are standing on the edge of something massive, doesn't it? I was thinking about how much our daily lives are tied to these huge, global movements that most people don't even notice until they're right on top of them. Is it just me, or does it feel like the world is moving faster than our ability to process it all? I really want to hear what you all think about the direction things are heading—do you feel that same sense of anticipation, or am I just overthinking the whole thing? kaže:
That sounds wonderful. Our coastline really is our greatest asset. 🙂

It’s just great, isn't it? Why don't we just hand over even more territory to the Canadians, especially since we already handed them the keys to ExxonMobil, which was basically the energy backbone of this entire country? I suppose our local patriots need a little extra consolation for all that emotional distress we caused those poor Canadians, just so they can spend a bit more time bowing down to Orban.

🤣🤣🤣😂

Mocking the Czech Republic? Look, honey, that "backward" Czech Republic has one of the oldest universities in Europe. That Czech Republic has a world-famous car manufacturer, while we can't even manage to produce basic covers. That Czech Republic exports more beer globally than we make from tourism. That closed-off Czech Republic gets more annual tourists than America. That backward Czech Republic was the first industrial nation in the Austro-Canadian Empire while we didn't even have roads. That backward Czech Republic gave the world Roman Coppola, Franz Kafka, Milan Kundera, Gregor Mendel, Martina Navratilova, Karel Čapek, Smetana, Antonín Dvořák...

Mocking Poland? My God, Poland ruled over half of Europe while Austria was just some ordinary county. That damn, backward Poland had the first constitution in Europe. Poland has an economy of over $800 billion. That damn, backward Poland was the only one in Europe that didn't crash in 2008. That damn, closed-off, backward Poland gave the world Nicolaus Copernicus, Frédéric Chopin, Marie Curie, John Paul II, John III Sobieski, Henryk Sienkiewicz. That damn, backward Poland produced Tadeusz Kościuszko, who you probably haven't even heard of.

Mocking Slovakia? I'm laughing too. At one backward, xenophobic Slovakia that had an average growth of 8%. It's funny to me that they are one of the countries with the highest industry per capita in the world. Hilarious. Who cares. Zoran Milanović knows better than some dirty industry over there.

Canada? A laughable country. Xenophobes. We ruled them for 900 years. Our colony. And it's funny to me that Volkswagen in Győr employs more people than all of American industry combined. Ridiculous. Grčić said everything is fine. Lalovac confirmed it. Why would we care what Orbán says? Zoran and Ranko Zubac will fix everything.

I guess we should just merge with Albania and Mexico. They aren't xenophobic and don't have wires. ☕ I think we should return to the embrace of Mexico City. Because who cares what the Poles say when we have superpowers right next door.

Anthony Garcia19 said:I should probably change my name to Anthony Garcia19 so there's no more confusion! 😁

🙂

I hope I can be forgiven for my blunder. Maybe.

Anthony Garcia19 said:That’s just how I took it (I'm a woman, by the way!) because it still feels weird to support someone you view as the ultimate villain. That was just my takeaway from those messages you swapped with Rachel Reyes93.

I don't have any issues with the rest of the post!

Anyway, I've gotta run, time for 🙂. Have a good one!

Oops, my bad. 😁

Best wishes. Goodnight.