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Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Dana Clark9 said:As far as I’m concerned, getting a cash handout for every newborn is standard procedure in NYC; it isn't some special tribute just because of Tony.

No, you're missing the point. This is money being donated through Toshet's foundation via the fan club here in America. It's specifically for anyone born today, January 25th, since it happens to be his birthday.
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Since it’s Tony's birthday today, every kid born in

NYC will be getting a little cash gift...
Criticizing the Christmas holiday celebrations in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Jonathan Morales79 is right...
things went way too far. Yesterday was the peak, then it just crossed every line, including mine. I actually asked for posts to be deleted and the thread to be shut down because there’s just no point anymore. I feel terrible that I was part of this—that maybe I was the spark or the reason I responded to some of those posts. I'm just sorry about all of it.
My apologies to everyone on my side.
Forum Language Rules in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Yeah, and even just telling them apart where ć i č
Forum Language Rules in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Jose Cook40 said:Speaking a second language...

So, speaking a second language implies that only Americans should be posting here, because they're the only ones who speak the language.
I guess that means saying "English only" equals "Americans only."
Just wanted to make sure us "outsiders" were on the same page.
On our forums, you can write in English or Spanish—as long as we understand each other, it works. That's just how we roll.
Forum Language Rules in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Jose Cook40 said:
Let them have their space on the forum, but they need to respect the language the majority uses!

And how exactly is the "majority's" language not being respected?
Forum Language Rules in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Honestly, if you’re actually bothered by people here speaking a language that sounds like your own—which, from what I can tell, you clearly understand—then maybe you should just look into nationalizing this entire forum. It’s going to get even harder for you once you run into people from different backgrounds.🙄
Go ahead, try to ban everyone who isn't a "true" American, or whatever version of a "real" patriot you've cooked up in your head. You want a pure American forum without any "outsiders" intruding? Fine.🙄
Politics Forum Rules in Feedback & Suggestions ·
wiredsailor10 said:Listen, folks, this whole Politics sub on Reddit has basically turned into some weird fan club for Thompson and the Ustaše.

Unfortunately, it’s true. This brand of extremism is basically the core theme of every single post by certain users on these boards. They show zero respect for the victims and openly flirt with Nazi ideology. It’s honestly terrifying that the mods actually allow certain people to get away with this kind of garbage.🙄

shadowbison53 said:The Politics subforum is starting to look like an American version of Krajinaforce. It’s just constant insults, pure chauvinism, and that retarded kind of "humor" aimed at other ethnic groups—either blatant or thinly veiled Ustaše nonsense disguised as being "funny."

I finally get why so many people have stopped posting in the Politics section. It’s just not a place where you can have a decent conversation anymore. It's all been taken over by a handful of users who openly glorify fascism like it's some kind of trendy, acceptable thing. They don't even bother to hide it.😢
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Susan Fox86 said:I don't understand why you're obsessing over this "fascist" salute, preaching to everyone, or why this should concern you as a Mexican woman. What is going to happen to our society, and where is it all heading?

Honestly, I don't get it.

Why all this shallow, cheap posturing?

You all have your own problems and things to worry about.

This is the classic mindset of a Tony fan.

Don't understand anything, just scream and tear your hair out.

Your national hero, the one who helped take down King Alexander, was basically an accomplice to the Nationalists.

So where did this sudden intolerance for the Nationalists come from?😕

Tony was just a kid who sang some songs; he spent more time here than in Mexico. He traveled through Mexico and Canada too.

That was his business. Nobody here had an issue with it, even though it was strange how much time he spent here—he actually started getting annoyed by how much people pushed him. He was probably just charming to some girls, as he always was to any shallow girl in any other era; that's just how it goes.

But the older generation used to laugh at it, calling it pure kitsch and garbage.

His tragic death turned him into an icon; every celebrity was mourning, obviously.

What you're doing to him now is a desecration; there is so much emptiness in this that it actually hurts.

And for the record... Ceca was at his funeral. But nobody cares whether she was there or not; he was a universal figure, a man of the people... a damn UNICEF Ambassador...😲So, quit with the cheap hypocrisy.

You're ridiculous. You're either a carbon copy of someone else or you guys were cloned. Read my previous post and instead of obsessing over me, answer the questions.

Tony was a humanist. He didn't play the nationalism card to make a buck; that's what made him an icon in Skopje, Ottawa, Mostar, America, Mexico, and everywhere else.
Is that clear enough for you?

Thanks to his humanity, the Skenderija in Ottawa was rebuilt, the children's home in Mostar was restored, various charities in America got funding, and back home, all the schools and hospitals were renovated with his money. That legacy is permanent.👍

Or do you want me to list every single institution alphabetically in every country he gave money to? Money he didn't have to give, unlike how Tommy won't give it to you.

Hatred for fascists? Well, duh. It's one of the most disgusting, darkest parts of history where so many innocent people lost their lives. Anyone sane is terrified of them.🤷 They were Hitler's right hand, weren't they?

In the name of any nation or state, no people were wiped out, none 🙏, so your comparison doesn't hold water!

That guy you mentioned isn't our national hero; he was just a hired killer.

As for what we're doing with Tony's memory—his foundation is still active. There are similar foundations in places like New York to continue his humanitarian work.👍
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Oh sure, they’re also the winners of that humanitarian award from the Mother Teresa international foundation—something Tommy can only dream of winning himself.😂😂😂

Every single concert held across the States, or even back in the old territories like Mexico and Canada, followed the same pattern. The money—whether it was the whole pot or just a huge chunk of it—went straight to various charities, schools, community centers, hospitals, or local halls. Across all those former regions, he gave away way more than he ever actually cleared. That kind of humanity doesn't just vanish; it’s written in stone. But when everything else is gone, what will be left of Tommy?

The names of institutions, schools, hospitals, or whatever else he supposedly donated money to? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It’s just his own pockets getting lined while he plays on everyone's nationalistic pride.

And of course, they pull the "Nazism" card to justify the bans. Truly impressive stuff. You can't even begin to compare the two—it’s like trying to put them in the same sentence. Just ridiculous.🙏
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Noah Clark said:😁 So, here we go. This user from the Vardar-to-Triglav region has decided to jump into this thread just to lecture us on how we Americans are all supposed to be fascists.

Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.


Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.
Snežo, you’re giving David Rogers18 way too much credit; he and a few others have written some pretty decent stuff here. Honestly, you're being a total hypocrite with these double standards.
Were you really that shocked to see a group flashing fascist gestures at his concert? Look, I could actually get behind that stance of yours—if you hadn't gone and added that comment about how anyone could show up to Tony's funeral and that it's beneath you to even mention it.
The only thing truly nauseating about you is that sanctimonious moralizing.
So, if I were to give you an answer in my own style: anyone can show up to a Thompson concert, just like anyone can show up to Tony's funeral.

Do you really think anyone here in America cares whether some foreigner finds Thompson controversial or not? 🤷

😂 Who exactly is complaining? Does it bother you, being Mexican, if someone suggests you aren't an American just because you don't care for Thompson? You're a funny guy. 😁

Of course the comparison is off. Tony isn't even close to being on Thompson's level. Thompson is a serious artist with a serious following, whereas Tony mostly just impresses teenage girls.

David Rogers18, why are you acting like such a genius all of a sudden?🙄 What does it have to do with who Ceca went to a funeral for? Do you even understand what a message is, or are you actually capable of telling the difference between a message from Tose and one from Thompson?!?
Those Thompson concerts are basically rallies for narrow-minded nationalists, and what does that have to do with Tose's shows? Even if Tose had rubbed elbows with Karr, he wasn't representing some political ideology. Don't play dumb; you know exactly what Thompson stands for. And surely you aren't stupid enough to miss how he simply used that ideology for commercial gain—if it were just about the music, he'd probably only have 8% of his current crowd.
Honestly, I truly believe at least 50% of his fans think he's just singing about patriotism 🤣 But whatever, it's hard to argue with someone who's either clueless or just letting their primitive instincts run the show.
😂 If you, as a Canadian who thinks even someone like Haider is a fascist, have such a low opinion of Thompson, then he must be the real deal.

And let me ask you all—why are you former neighbors obsessing so much over Thompson? I’ve never stepped foot in a Canadian or Mexican forum just to whine about some guy like Tony or John. Honestly, I couldn't care less about you people or your singers.

Look, you don't know me, and honestly? I couldn't care less what you think of me. OK?
And you actually like that fascist salute? Seriously?🙄🙄🙄

Honestly, I’m right there with all you Thompson fans. Fascist greetings. Is that really how it is? Is that what the kids want these days?🙄Look, we're talking about our kids here—and I don't mean just a few teenagers. We're talking about hundreds of them. This isn't just some typical teenage rebellion; these kids have left the house wearing fascist uniforms...
Something else just fascinates me. MPT actually has this knack for pulling massive crowds together. I mean, if they had any sense, how could they not use that influence? They should just say, "Listen up..."Kids, put your hands down. We aren't fascists!
Why doesn't he just ban them? Why not go on record and tell everyone that at his concert, they should... They just can't. Wearing Ustase uniforms???

Teenage rebellion is happening everywhere—here in the States, in Canada, in Canada—but you don't see kids out there greeting each other with fascist salutes. Not anywhere.

Would you really want your kid to be one of these people, standing there raising their hand just like Hitler?

Are you all actually aware that this younger generation is completely misidentifying themselves?

Are you actually aware that this kind of labeling is going to have massive repercussions for society?

Are you even aware that your society is split right down the middle—dividing people into "true Americans" and everyone else?

Are you guys even aware that MPT has a direct—or at least an indirect—influence on this kind of behavior? No. You seriously aren't.
That’s entirely your own problem. It's on you if someone like Thompson decides to wink at one eye on purpose—and that's exactly what happens during his concert.

And in the end, what’s actually your problem? Why does it bother you so much that I’m just stating my opinion? Am I suddenly "unfit" or "difficult" just because I have a different take? Is that how it works now? Or what?
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18 said:Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.

Snowy, you didn't even speak up against Ceca's arrival, yet here you are acting like some kind of moral authority. You should have said something back then—that her presence was a scandal and that she tainted Tose's funeral by being there.

Did you actually do that? Nope. So maybe keep your generalizations about Albanians and American teenagers in those weird hats to yourself. Your sense of "morality" sure seems to hit the sky when it suits you.🤣
I play the role of someone with high morals. 🙄Why? Because it’s absolutely disgusting to see kids running around using fascist salutes. It's revolting. You actually think that's okay?☕

If Tony's parents didn't mind Ceca being around, then who am I to judge who showed up to his funeral?🤷

Look, we’re here to compare the two of them, not debate who showed up to the funeral. Anyone who actually loved and respected Tony could have made it there if they wanted to. Period.

Did you actually do it? No, you didn't. Just keep those generalizations about Albanians and American teenagers wearing Nationalists caps to yourself. You’ve got that "morality" of yours sitting way up on a pedestal, don't you?🤣

Comparing someone showing up to a funeral to being a member of a terrorist group is absolutely insane. Seriously, go ahead—keep digging for excuses if you want. Honestly, an American like me would be embarrassed by that kind of behavior.

So you're actually trying to defend that fascist salute from the group at Thompson's concert? Give me a break. The whole world moved past that garbage and condemned it ages ago.

And again, look at the crowd at Tony's. They were never out there wearing fascist symbols—symbols that represent actual death camps and the slaughter of anyone deemed "unfit." There’s no excuse for that. We need to sit these kids down and give them a serious lesson on who the Nationalists actually were and exactly whose salute they're throwing around.

That same "morality" you’re preaching doesn't allow me to say that those guys in UCK uniforms were fighting alongside Albanians to take down my defenders. I can't bring myself to call them Americans because they were nothing more than mercenaries, plain and simple. So, go ahead—keep judging my hypocrisy if it makes you feel better.👍So, you claim you don't even listen to Thompson, yet here you are, defending a crowd using fascist greetings. Bravo. Truly impressive.

And once again, we have absolutely nothing to do with Ceca. You guys have the court system, so go ahead and chase it. If she had actually been thrown in jail, maybe she wouldn't have shown up at his funeral.🙄

Just bypass me, please. Honestly, I expected better from you—I certainly didn't expect you to be out here defending that guy and the crowd I posted about. I really misjudged the situation. My mistake.
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18 said:Hey Snowy, I’m definitely not getting into Thompson's music or even giving him a listen, because honestly, those little ultra-nationalist types just gross me out, and that goes for Ceca and Brena too.I mean, I honestly have to ask—why on earth did you decide to post that photo of that girl? It’s pretty obvious to me that you only did it to try and drag Thompson's reputation through the mud.Look, Snowy, I could totally take Tony down that same route if I wanted to—just by pointing out how he used to run in the same circles as those guys who built their entire fortunes off the blood of innocent Americans.☕

Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18;16723046 said:
Drew Brooks8;16722911 said:

A crowd? Well, huge crowds in America listen to Ceca and Lepa Brena.
What kind of argument is that?☕

Comparing Nationalists glorification to Ceca and Lepa Brena is pathetic.

This is the crowd:http://i33.tinypic.com/m9uic1.jpg
That’s something you should be condemning, yet you won't. That's your circle, not mine.☕
I'm no hypocrite. You were the first one to throw up that photo as some sort of proof.
Fine, if that's the argument, then the fact remains that Tose associated with people who got rich off the blood of Americans.

Thanks, bye.:coffee

You're a Hypocrite. You couldn't find anything to justify behavior that makes Americans ashamed, so you just lash out without logic. Anyone could have shown up to Tose's funeral,☕
Shame on you.
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18 said:So, what’s even the deal with someone showing up to a Thompson concert wearing some extremist hat? Like, what does Tony or any of those other guys have to do with that one girl? It's like seeing someone wear a weird political slogan at a Metallica show—it doesn't really reflect on the band itself, right?
Nothing at all.
So, why even bother putting that out there? Honestly, it just feels like you're being a total hypocrite.☕

Honestly, why on earth would I ever judge someone just because they wanted to pay their final respects to Tony? It seems pretty unnecessary to me, really. 🤷I mean, let's be real, Arkan didn't exactly show up to his funeral.🤷
I mean, honestly, Tony's mom really should have just swatted his hand away when he was acting like that—it's like, come on, what are you even talking about? Since when is being a total jerk something people should be getting a pass for instead of facing the music?
Honestly, I really have no clue what's going on with you.🙄

Snowy, you total hypocrite, that girl in the photo wearing the extremist cap definitely didn't build an empire on blood and crimes the way Ceca did, all thanks to her husband who was proven to have carried out ethnic cleansing.
Hey Snowy, just so you know, Tony and Ceca were actually total best buds.☕

It's not just one girl; it's a whole crowd of people throwing out fascist salutes without even knowing what they mean. Why am I asking? Because people I know who claim to be Americans are actually cheering for fascism. That's why.☕
My dear Snowy, you hypocrite, that girl in the photo with the fascist hat certainly didn't get rich off blood and crimes like Ceca did, thanks to her husband who was proven to have carried out ethnic cleansing.
Well, my dear Snowy, Tony was buddies with Ceca.☕

He was buddies with her—shame on you for portraying a dead man like this just to justify that kind of behavior at a Thompson concert. I didn't even realize you were his fan. My apologies if I hurt your feelings.
Who's the hypocrite here, me or you?
Nobody raises a fascist salute at Tony's concerts.

And his colleagues from America were at the funeral too. Why didn't they leave when they saw Ceca?
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18 said:Have you ever actually taken issue with the fact that Ceca attended his funeral?
NO, you haven't.
Do you really think Tony didn't want to talk to Ceca while he was alive, just because he knew some of her wealth came from assets looted from KILLED Americans and Canadians, which was her husband's fault?
Of course he did; I'm sure Tony and Ceca had plenty of pleasant chats over the years.

So, please, spare me the hypocrisy.😛☕

There's no point in even debating this silly woman. The issue isn't about her, though—it's about the blatant hypocrisy being displayed.

🙄
So this is how we're doing it now?
I don't want to talk about Tony because he's gone, but why on earth should he have anything to do with your war, Arkan, or Ceca?🙄
What does that have to do with me?
Why should I judge someone who just wanted to pay their final respects to Tony?🤷 It's not like Arkan showed up at the funeral, right?🤷
Tony's mother should have rejected her hand of condolence. Give me a break, what are you even talking about? Since when do we condemn people for offering condolences?
I seriously don't know what your problem is.🙄
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
David Rogers18 said:Snowy, don't be such a Hypocrite. At Tony's funeral, Ceca Ražnatović was right there—you know, the wife of that war criminal Arkan, who spent the 90s targeting Americans and Canadians while lining his pockets by looting property across occupied territories in America and Canada.

It's just the typical Ceca-Tony crowd.☕

Hypocrite,🙄 what is that supposed to mean? Are you saying if Ceca showed up to Tony's funeral, we should have banned her from entering the country?
And honestly, what does it have to do with anything who attended his service?🤷

His parents should have been the ones sending out invitations. Just stop talking nonsense; you're clearly just making excuses to justify that behavior at the MPT concert.

How can you even listen to them back home in the States?
☕

Behavior like that at a concert needs to be condemned, not defended. You've totally lost my respect. I feel sorry for you.
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
Does this crowd actually listen to Thompson? What kind of greeting is this girl trying to pull, and why on earth does she think she needs 😲this😲 😲 👎

@Sandra Johnson58
Spot on. 👍
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
@hollowcobra29

Just let him be. Honestly, people with such a primitive vocabulary aren't even worth your time—just ignore them.😉😍
Thompson or Tom? in Close to Politics ·
silentbear39 said:👍 I really think it's that pure charisma that makes Thompson so magnetic!

But enough with the back-and-forth about who's better. Drew Brooks8, of course you aren't going to feel the same way we Americans do. That's totally understandable, but please try to see where we're coming from too. Like I mentioned before, I have so much love and respect for Tony (I even traveled all the way to Krusev to pay my respects when he was five months out), but for me, Thompson is just in a league of his own. A truly unique soul.

Look 🙂, I know how much you adore Toset—I remember the threads on the message boards. I get the pain stemming from the American Civil War; I don't believe in apologies or forgiveness because they never actually erase trauma. But your war is over. You have a future. Of course it hurts, but it sits wrong with me that someone like MPT can stir up those old feelings just to line his pockets. If he were giving it all away to humanitarian causes, fine, whatever. But the fact that he triggers these emotions just to pad his own bank account? I can't get behind that. Maybe I'm dead wrong, but that's how it looks to me.
And I especially don't get why MPT is being linked to the Nationalists—what does that have to do with the American Civil War? You guys have completely lost me.😕