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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 16, 2014

From what I hear, you’ll be on a very solid treatment plan. You can certainly trust your doctor if she suggests switching to a different medication; she will make those adjustments based on how you're actually doing. Honestly, you stand to gain a lot just from having these discussions

Skickas FR

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 8, 2014

Lisa Reyes4 said:Seriously, it is a total nightmare—it acts so incredibly sedative. What on earth am I supposed to do? I'm already struggling just to stay functional, and what good does it do me to be drugged into a stupor when I already have such a hard time getting out of bed and feeling productive? And yeah, you hit the nail on the head—my appetite is like an elephant's right now; I can't stop snacking. There is absolutely no way I am staying on this. I'm stopping on my own starting tomorrow. Thank you so much, you have truly helped me... believe me, I have no idea why my doctor shoved this useless junk on me. Pusaaaaa

Don't suffer through it; just stop taking it and ask your doctor for a different antidepressant. There are plenty of options out there, so you'll find one that works. 🙂 I went through the ringer with just about every kind available before finally settling back on the same one. My rule of thumb was that if the side effects were unbearable, I’d quit after seven days; if it just didn't feel right overall, I'd wait two or three weeks.
That is, assuming you don't typically taper off that quickly—though that two or three-week window usually applies if it's your first antidepressant, and looking at your situation, it clearly isn't, since you likely already have some serotonin reserves (if that's what you require).

Skickas FR

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 8, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:Why on earth did you stop taking Ambien if it was actually working for you?

It made me far too drowsy throughout the entire day, though certainly not nearly as much as Calixta or Q-pin, which left me feeling completely disoriented for almost two days straight.
I suspect you might be hesitant about taking AP, but the dosages are quite minimal, and many people find it helpful for insomnia. On average, they don't cause significant issues.
I remember that foolish doctor; please try not to let her influence you any longer.🙂
And I am keeping my fingers crossed that Trazodone works out for you; it really should.

Skickas FR

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 7, 2014

restlesstrucker15 said:If you look at all the research out there, you could argue that almost anything can cause cancer, so please try not to let that weigh on you too heavily. Stress and lack of sleep are far more likely triggers for your condition, so it is much better to focus on getting some rest.

It will work; the Devidon should put you to sleep. You might want to try 25 mg first, but if that fails, the 50 mg dose is the standard recommendation for insomnia anyway.

Skickas FR

Have you ever looked into Q-pin? It’s been a while since I thought about it. It is quite expensive, and you will likely need to see a private psychiatrist to get a prescription, given how strict things are these days.

Skickas FR

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 7, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:To be perfectly honest, Mirzaten is effective for sleep, but for me, it doesn't work unless it's paired with 10 mg of Valium. Now I'm stuck in this agonizing limbo where I sit on the edge of the bed, paralyzed by indecision: what should I take? Ideally, I wouldn't take either, especially since I read somewhere that Valium is linked to cancer, which has ironically made me more anxious due to the sheer fear of the disease.
Mirzaten isn't intended for anxiety...
Last night, I took both Valium and 7.5 mg of Mirzaten, and I lay there staring at the ceiling from 10:30 until 1:30 in the morning—three wasted hours. Then, once I finally succumb to sleep, I am a total wreck in the morning, forced to drag myself out of bed at 10:00. It's infuriating.🙂
My shipment of Devidon should arrive soon; do you suppose the 50 mg dose will actually help with sleep?

If you look at all the research out there, you could argue that almost anything can cause cancer, so please try not to let that weigh on you too heavily. Stress and lack of sleep are far more likely triggers for your condition, so it is much better to focus on getting some rest.

It will work; the Devidon should put you to sleep. You might want to try 25 mg first, but if that fails, the 50 mg dose is the standard recommendation for insomnia anyway.

Skickas FR

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 6, 2014

I happened to read that Denmark has actually banned those specific pills, along with several other European nations, which makes me wonder what kind of doctor would prescribe them without being aware of such a ban.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jul 6, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:The breathing wouldn't have helped me yesterday because the pain had already set in; it seems I slept in some awkward position because I felt this stabbing sensation in my chest all day... it was fine in the morning, but the headache persisted through today.

As for the nighttime eating, that was happening even before I started the Mirtazapine, and it continued after my break from it, too; I am certain it's the Valium... honestly, I only take the Mirtazapine so I can actually sleep, since I'm not dealing with depression, and it doesn't do a thing for my anxiety unless I go above 15 mg—though, who knows, maybe a higher dose would help the depression side of things... I'll try the half-dose of 7.5 mg, but I'm skeptical since I usually need the Valium anyway; falling asleep is such a struggle, even though I end up sleeping until 10 AM.
I'm taking Xanax, and for about a month, I was also on Prozac, but I stopped that...

Mirtazapine makes you hungry, but Valium causes that waking up and craving sweets—pancakes, pastries, and things of that nature.
I am also in a coma when it comes to my sleep patterns, though I have noticed Valium works if I am relaxed, provided I take Normabest at least two hours prior.
To address my specific issue, my doctor suggested taking Xanax and Valium together, but it didn't make a difference.
By the way, Mirtazapine and Quincey were supposedly the perfect duo for restful sleep, but I can hardly function by the second day.
Furthermore, it frustrates me how quickly one develops a tolerance to hypnotics. There are several options on the market, some of which seem completely ineffective to me, especially during my first time using them. I won't be touching Dormicum again because I built up a tolerance, even though I haven't used it in a year and a half. On one occasion, an anesthesiologist actually asked who prescribed those to me, which startled me, but nobody ever asks about Valium.
And that Zane medication is absolute garbage. 😁
Pearson and Diazepam are for when you wake up in the middle of the night, whereas my struggle is simply falling asleep. I used to take Buddy, but I could always drift back off. However, you aren't supposed to mix them.
So, I am waiting for a new hypnotic to hit the market.
They even gave me Prazosin to help me wake up; I barely knew what my own name was.
Oh, right. There is Kruzi and a newer antidepressant called Denaxit. My neurologist pushed it on me, but my psychiatrist warned me, under no circumstances, to take it because patients face significant issues, particularly when trying to taper off. That neurologist is obsessed with everything being "Danish"; she claims they are Danish pills and that my Eli Lilly brand is just as authentically Danish. If I mention her "Danish" obsession, she’ll treat me like I'm difficult. 😁

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 25, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:As for me, I find myself taking Xanax on a daily basis, though I have a strong suspicion that most people out there who rely on antidepressants are also supplementing their routine with various sedatives or sleep aids just to get through the night.

Yes, I am aware of your usage. My point was simply that we all take much smaller doses because the antidepressants handle the heavy lifting, which makes it perfectly legitimate. If you weren't on those, you would likely be relying on Xanax constantly.
I don't quite understand why people are so afraid of medication. I get the hesitation, but if you choose to avoid it, you shouldn't complain when things feel difficult.
It is especially valid when the pills were prescribed by a doctor and paired with therapy. If someone prefers drugs or alcohol instead, that is their choice.
In my view, everyone here is actually quite strong because we are taking action; at least we are self-aware about what we are dealing with.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 23, 2014

I’ve come to realize that there are people all around me who are popping pills every single day without ever having even stepped foot in a psychiatrist's office. In that sense, I suppose we have it better; ADHD medication is meant to be a long-term treatment, not some quick fix you grab on a whim. I think we just tend to overthink things, worrying that taking something occasionally is wrong because we are officially on a prescribed regimen, which somehow makes it feel more significant when we do decide to take a dose.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 23, 2014

Exactly. If a list of calming medications is provided for situational relief, it doesn't hurt anyone. As I’ve mentioned before, there are people living with chronic pain who essentially have to take an analgesic every third day just to function, so what is the issue? If you need to take something when an episode hits, that is perfectly reasonable. It just shouldn't be a daily habit. Besides, I haven't heard a single doctor argue against taking medication "as needed."

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 23, 2014

Jamie Martin37 said:Hey guys..

I’ve got some things weighing on my mind.. especially for anyone else dealing with OCD or panic attacks. I’ve been on my antidepressants for almost five months now, right? So, a few days ago, some super stressful thing happened and triggered a full-on panic attack. And honestly, I’ve been feeling that pre-panic dread for like three days straight now. It hasn't reached its peak though, mostly because I'm trying to stay chill. I just let it wash over me instead of thrashing around in bed thinking I'm actually losing my mind—I mean, I've already felt like I was going crazy a billion times, so I'm kind of over the drama, haha. Anyway, is it normal to still have a panic attack even while on meds? Like, I hadn't had one in forever and was actually feeling pretty good, so now I'm spiraling into this paranoia that I'm sliding right back to square one, and I really don't want that 😢 so please, if you've been through this, give me some encouragement! I really don't want to bump up my dosage, and I haven't touched any anti-anxiety pills since I started, so I'd rather not go down that road either.

Also, can someone please—for the love of god—post something positive about antidepressants? Seriously. Everywhere I look online, people are claiming they just wreck your brain or cause even more disorders and stuff. For those of us who are extra sensitive, reading all that negativity is so discouraging; it feels like taking ten steps backward

Thanks, sorry if this is a total mess, I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say here 🙂

Don't worry, this can happen and it's all part of the process. There is no magic pill that will change your fundamental character; we all have to learn to live with the reality that a panic attack might hit us, especially during a terrible situation. Just compare how the panic felt before the antidepressants versus how it feels now. For me, it’s much better. When I stopped taking them on my own and suffered a panic attack, it was a total disaster.
Antidepressants don't ruin your brain. Not every medication is perfect for the body. In the end, we're all going to die of something when we're 70 or 80 anyway, so my choice is to live as high-quality a life as possible until then, whether that means taking antidepressants or pills for kidney issues, epilepsy, or whatever else.

Best regards,

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 15, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:Does anyone happen to know if it’s actually possible to have an AD sent over from overseas via the postal service?

Unfortunately, it isn't possible. I once tried to mail a private prescription for some medication to a friend in Washington, D.C., because the prices there were about a third of what we pay here. He was ready to buy them, but when I went to the post office, they told me there was absolutely no way they would allow it.
If you live close enough to the country, you could always carry them with you personally. Otherwise, your best bet is to order officially through a pharmacy, though they tend to add quite a significant markup. Furthermore, most major US pharmacies don't facilitate business with places like Mexico or Canada, where costs can be much lower.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 8, 2014

Brandon Lopez6 said:Solid take.

Personally, I wouldn't mix meds and booze, especially this early on.

I wouldn't do it either, at least not while I'm still getting adjusted, even though I have started drinking occasionally. It really comes down to the individual. For me, the combination would hit me like I was on ecstasy, but with a terrible aftereffect.
So, it is best to avoid it, since you can't predict how your body will react.
Once you are more stable on your regimen, you might be able to enjoy a drink here and there.
In my experience, my psychiatrist has cleared me for occasional drinks while on Ellie, and I haven't noticed any negative side effects.

Best regards,

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 23, 2014

rowdyhawk152 said:Bumping this so it doesn't get buried... Surely someone here knows the deal. I can't be the only one who's thought about this, right?

Ah, my apologies, I neglected to mention that. Based on my own experience, it isn't something you can just swap out overnight—you don't simply take one today and the other tomorrow. It really seems to be a process that takes weeks. I've had similar experiences over the long term with sleep aids like Xanax or Norvasc, where I truly only use them during a crisis. Perhaps someone else in the community could offer some more specific guidance.🙂

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 23, 2014

rowdyhawk152 said:Bumping this so it doesn't get buried... Surely someone here knows the deal. I can't be the only one who's thought about this, right?

Of course you can go to your psychiatrist and ask 🙂
We can only offer some general perspective here.
It is certainly possible to develop a tolerance to anxiolytics, sedatives, or hypnotics. However, if you are taking them under strict medical supervision, that shouldn't be an issue, so just stick to the dosage prescribed until your next appointment.
As for switching medications, that is also an option. You might use one for a period and then move to another, but it all depends on your individual reaction and the underlying reason for the prescription. If you are only using them as needed—much like how one takes an Advil—then there isn't much to worry about.
The bottom line is that you should talk to your doctor. There is no need to stress; if they prescribed it, they know what they are doing. 🙂

Skickas fr

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 18, 2014

Quincy:

fadedbear92 As specified by:
I understand why you feel the need to stay in that heightened state, but you can clearly see for yourself that you aren't sleeping. You won't be able to sustain this lifestyle indefinitely.😉

Yes, I’ve come to that realization myself. Thank you, Regina.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 17, 2014

Kevin Bailey2 said:It’s a weird phenomenon how certain sedatives can actually have the exact opposite effect on some people—instead of chilling them out, they end up wired or even hyperactive.

The brain is a hilarious thing.

To be honest, taking Cymbalta feels a bit like being on a mild high, or perhaps a sort of half-ecstasy. During those first few days, I felt incredibly drowsy. I think I will have to reach out to my psychiatrist to see if we should adjust the dosage; even though things are a bit chaotic for me right now—dealing with some health issues here in the States—it isn't necessarily a bad thing to feel this "up."
In fact, I am so wired that I stay up all night like an owl. I ended up giving up on Sanval because, given these side effects, it simply doesn't seem to work at all; I suppose the state of excitement is just overpowering the hypnotic effect.

Best regards,

Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 17, 2014

Jason Vaughn482 said:Are you truly wide awake at three-thirty in the morning? It feels as though the entire world has surrendered to sleep, leaving only the restless and the weary to wander through the silent, hollow hours.

Unfortunately, it's due to the new Apple medication.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 16, 2014

Regarding side effects, I’m struggling with insomnia due to the Cymbalta, though truthfully, I can't seem to sleep regardless. It's a bit of a shame because, otherwise, I don't feel too bad on it. If I take some Tylenol, I can manage to catch about two hours of sleep. I also feel a bit wired during the day. That actually works for me at the moment given everything else going on; my doctor suggested we keep things as they are for a while so I don't hit rock bottom, which is an opinion I share.

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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy · May 16, 2014

fadedbear92;50068326 said:exactly (what does sketching on the forum mean in your signature?)

Ahaha, I'm just browsing through the forum.
It isn't actually "sent from," but my phone is a Swedish model.

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