Sean Howard2 said:This works for me because it treats my trigeminal neuralgia. It’s honestly the only thing that actually killed those horrific nerve pains. Plus, it helps with the anxiety triggered by the neuralgia itself—it’s a vicious cycle where one feeds the other. The pain caused the fear, which led to the anxiety. Everything is interconnected. Believe me, they treated me like a lab rat, cycling through pill after pill. I’ve already vented about this on the forum. They had me on everything from Amyzol and Lyrica to Zaldiar, Tramadol, Tegretol, and Venlafaxine. I even had Neurobion injections that felt like they were burning me alive.🙂 Man, thinking back to when I was on Lyrica is just the absolute worst. Ugh. It was supposed to help with my severe depression by boosting my serotonin levels quickly, but it did nothing of the sort. I couldn't even last a full week on it. Between the nerve pain and feeling like a complete zombie for five days straight, it was brutal. Honestly, I don't even want to think about it. So, looking back, Cymbalta ended up being the saving grace in all of this. It was easily the best option available. I've been thinking about just quitting everything entirely. Honestly, I'm terrified that the pain will come rushing back, and I just don't think I have the strength to go through all of that again. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Man, I really wish someone here had actually taken this and gotten through it so they could share their experience. It would mean the world to me.🙂
For both the anxiety and the neuralgia, try Lyrica. Neither Lyrica nor Cymbalta worked well for me personally due to different side effects than yours, but Lyrica was the better option. Every neurologist and psychiatrist is going to suggest these, though they can be quite expensive. You should definitely discuss it with them. Lyrica isn't an antidepressant; it's used for epilepsy, neuralgia, and general anxiety. I found myself getting a bit too high on it, but most people don't experience that.
Haha 🙂 that’s exactly my point The thing is, this dose wasn't actually intended to knock me out. If it had been meant for sleep, I’d be in real trouble if I couldn't drift off
I just wanted to drop a quick word of warning: stay far away from Ambien. 🙂 Earlier today, my anesthesiologist mentioned he was going to give me something through the IV to help me relax. When I asked for clarification, he told me it was a narcotic combined with a bit of Ambien. I told him that I had actually been taking it for sleep for quite a while, and he just immediately started shaking his head at me. It certainly did the job of relaxing me, though. 🙂 The point is, if you ever find yourself needing surgery, please, do not under any circumstances use Ambien for longer than a couple of weeks.
Perhaps I misinterpreted the 🙂 However, there are certain medications that specifically target norepinephrine and dopamine, so I am sincerely hoping they provide you with some relief 🙂
I suspect you aren't 🙂 it’s just that those of us on this sub tend to be a bit more sensitive when we get copied, and I wouldn't want him to take it the wrong way
That’s right; you haven't been prescribed the heavy-duty stuff yet. This is just standard therapy—a slightly higher dose of Xanax, perhaps, but you're still in the very early stages of the process.
Please don't attack someone when they're clearly struggling; if they're in a mental fog, they certainly aren't in any position to be conducting deep research. Seroxat is an antidepressant designed to help alleviate both depression and anxiety, though you should realize it typically takes more than a month to become fully effective. Until then, you might experience some side effects—things like insomnia, nausea, or headaches—but those usually subside within about ten days. As for the Xanax, it was prescribed to provide immediate relief from your depressive symptoms and anxiety, so please follow your doctor's instructions exactly. There is no need to worry; your physician will gradually taper your Xanax dosage over time. It may also assist you with falling asleep. There is no harm in taking them together; you won't experience any adverse reactions from the combination. You can evaluate how you feel during your next follow-up appointment.
restlesstiger49 said:Honestly, that is exactly what you should discuss with your physician. In my opinion, the month and a half I've spent on Paxil—including the last ten days where they bumped me from 50 to 100mg, which honestly just made the restlessness and tension kick my ass—is a perfectly reasonable timeframe to determine if an antidepressant is actually working or not. I remember taking Wellbutrin for a while too (which, from what I understand, isn't an SSRI), and that actually helped dial down my anxiety and gave me the push I needed to get moving. It worked for a bit, though I eventually stopped. At any rate, it seems like SSRIs might not be the magic fix for my specific situation.
Your doctor will likely suggest an alternative. If you aren't seeing the same physician, make sure to mention that Wellbutrin didn't sit well with you. Perhaps you're like me; maybe increasing norepinephrine (Effexor, Cymbalta) or dopamine (Wellbutrin) isn't the answer. If the primary issue is anxiety rather than deep depression, focusing on serotonin might be better. There is a wide variety of options available in that category, such as Lexapro, Zoloft, or perhaps Prozac.
redranger2 said:In my experience, Effexor pushed me straight into states of restlessness and intense anxiety, which is precisely why I had to stop taking it. My psychiatrist later explained that my system clearly doesn't respond well to antidepressants that act on norepinephrine receptors. While it’s true that Effexor is prescribed for depression and works well for that purpose, it isn't necessarily the right tool for treating anxiety.
I agree; my doctors are also cautious about prescribing anything that affects norepinephrine. While the anxiety eventually subsides once you get past the initial side effects, living on such an emotional roller coaster is simply unbearable. Furthermore, it seems to me that these medications are more effective at lifting depression than they are at fully neutralizing anxiety. I feel fine while on my medication, but that doesn't mean my anxiety has vanished. Dealing with that part of myself is something I have to work through personally, and I am doing my best.
Jason Vaughn482 said:Don't give me any lip; once I finally drift off, I am out for the count for at least ten hours straight. Whether I’m taking Sanval or about a cup and a half of Cerson, the result is always the same. Honestly, until we start dealing with the issues surrounding AP, things seem relatively manageable. The real headache isn't staying asleep—it's actually getting my brain to shut down in the first place—but even then, once I'm under, it feels like I’m sleeping far too much. By the way, she’s already sliced her Xanax dosage in half, though if she could just kick the habit entirely, she’d be thrilled. Right now, she’s hovering at 0.25 mg twice a day—sometimes even a third dose—which is quite the leap considering she was pulling 1.5 mg daily for four years straight. Good grief, I am crossing my fingers that this transition stays steady. Just as I'm rooting for her to pull through this, I'm holding you to that promise of helping me with my insomnia, much like I'm counting on you regarding my upcoming surgery.
It appears that my recent foray into using Devidon was somewhat misguided, as I find myself drifting back toward my baseline state once again.
Yes, we are both struggling with insomnia.🙂 I am attempting to distance myself from Sanval. Yesterday and the day before, I took two melatonin tablets and two Apaurin 5mg pills and managed to fall asleep, 🙂but most nights, I simply can't. It really depends on whatever is racing through my mind. I remember how I used to fall asleep during evening drives when someone else was behind the wheel, yet the moment I see a bed, it's as if I haven't been tired for an eternity.
Kudos to you for the Xanax progress; what you are taking now is truly a minimal amount considering your previous dosage. Yes, it's a good thing you stopped taking that Devidon, but at least now you know it isn't right for you.
Thank you for the well wishes; I just hope I don't lose my mind after the surgery. 🙂I have to maintain strict bed rest for at least two months.
James Fowler3 said:I stopped; I didn't take it yesterday, and I haven't taken it today either, but this rash hasn't cleared up one bit 🙄 Then maybe it wasn't caused by the medication?
I'm planning on heading to see a different neuropsychiatrist later to get a second opinion, though I'm already starting to feel that familiar tremor of anxiety just thinking about the appointment...
I couldn't say for certain, though redranger2 mentioned it could be a possibility. When you speak of trembling, do you mean you are fearful of undergoing a new therapy, or is it more of an apprehension about simply leaving the house?
James Fowler3 said:Here I am again, wrestling with my Eglonyl... It’s honestly going to be the death of me. So, since that milk issue cropped up, my doctor instructed me to finish out the course by taking one more dose daily for another 4.5 days before tapering off completely. I took my dose yesterday morning around 9:00 AM, which marked the eleventh day of the regimen. Later that afternoon, around 2:00 PM, I spent a little time out in the sun, only to find myself covered in this tiny, widespread rash... Since I had read somewhere that Eglonyl can trigger a delayed hypersensitivity reaction, I started spiraling, terrified that this was it—that I might experience something catastrophic like airway constriction or worse. Then again, it could just be a sun allergy, though I’ve never really dealt with anything like that before. I simply don't know, and frankly, I'm frightened.
If I ended up throwing up from the medication yesterday, is it possible for something like respiratory distress to suddenly kick in today?
I woke up this morning feeling like I could barely catch my breath, struggling with this cough... then again, I've been smoking quite a bit lately, so it could easily be the cigarettes, but the anxiety is still there. I haven't taken the dose today, and I don't intend to take it ever again.
Phew... Honestly, you should just stop taking it; your doctor already gave you the green light to discontinue. It seems to me that you are experiencing the exact side effects that warrant stopping the regimen. Eglonyl isn't some miraculous panacea with magical properties, so there is no reason to feel guilty. Your physician will likely prescribe an alternative. If my memory serves me correctly, you mentioned being prescribed Xanax as well. You should rely on that until your next appointment, at which point they will probably transition you to an antidepressant. Please, do not suffer any longer. 🙂You made a sincere effort and endured the course quite stoically for a significant period; you certainly haven't failed by choosing to stop now.
Jason Vaughn482 said:I’ve been on Mirzaten for three years now; I started at 15 mg and eventually tapered down to 7.5 mg. It was prescribed for both anxiety and insomnia, though if I'm being honest, it hasn't done much for the anxiety—it just helps enough with the sleep that I still find myself cutting my dose in half... however, I still have to supplement it with Sanval. Until recently, I had reached the exact same conclusion as you: neither Cerson, Fluzepam, nor Xanax seemed to make a dent in my insomnia, leaving me constantly retreating to Sanval. But then, over the last twenty days, since I was out of Sanval, I started taking 10 mg of Cerson alongside that tiny 7.5 mg dose of Mirzaten, and suddenly, I’m drifting off just as easily as I did with Sanval. Why didn't it work before? Who knows. But I always need that little bit of Mirzaten to tip the scales. As for the side effects, I’ve gained about five or six pounds, but that’s purely because I find myself wandering to the kitchen in the middle of the night to eat. Last night was particularly brutal; I felt this horrific acid reflux that made me think I was going to vomit, though I didn't—it was just miserable. Regarding your question about switching medications, that’s a conversation for a doctor, but word on the street is that Amyzol also carries a significant risk of weight gain. I’m certainly no specialist here; I’m merely sharing my own lived experience.
The three of us are never going to get a decent night's sleep, are we?😁
It is truly wonderful to hear that you have finally found relief. While I have seen many people praise this medication, my own experience was quite different. It turns out that anything which triggers a spike in my norepinephrine and dopamine levels produces an effect similar to ecstasy; while it certainly didn't touch my anxiety, the resulting level of agitation and insomnia became simply unbearable. However, I have a strong intuition that this will work well for you. 🙂
Roger Bennett62 said:Man, I've been on it for 5 years now. The most I ever took was 2mg twice a day, but lately it's just 2mg in the morning and maybe 1mg if things get rough. Honestly, if the meds are doing their job, there's no reason to stress about getting addicted. My tolerance hasn't even bumped up over the years, even when I was hitting that 4mg total daily dose; mostly I've just stayed at 2mg. Sometimes I can even go a whole day on just 1mg. It’s a solid med, honestly haven't found anything better. Works great as both an AT&T and an anxiolytic, plus there aren't really side effects besides feeling a little sleepy when you first start. 🙂
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Understood. Thank you for sharing your experience. 🙂
I apologize if I am asking this in the wrong place, but I was wondering if there is any way to have my blood type and Rh factor determined somewhere other than Petrov in Chicago. I need to complete several pre-op tests—some at my local clinic and some at the hospital—and I am really trying to minimize unnecessary travel and multiple needle sticks, especially since I'm dealing with some issues with my lower back.
Yes, could someone please clarify if Roche is intended for long-term use? As I mentioned previously, I was prescribed this for non-psychiatric issues. I am asking because I find the effects quite helpful, but I have absolutely no desire to develop a dependency; I certainly have more than enough tolerance for Sanofi and Ambien to deal with in my life.
With AT&T, the side effects can be quite unpleasant, though they eventually pass. However, you have to keep in mind that during the initial phase, they tend to amplify your underlying symptoms, which can lead us all to panic. That’s likely why they include those warnings in the first place; we see a minor sensation, read the pamphlet, and then convince ourselves we’re experiencing every single one of the other twenty percent of potential issues mentioned. Just imagine if a doctor prescribed Advil or Voltaren and warned you that there was a possibility of gastrointestinal bleeding. We would all be sitting at home obsessively reading the fine print and waiting for blood to appear. Honestly, I have never once felt the need to read the instructions on an over-the-counter painkiller.
I have a question for those who take Associated Press for insomnia. For me, it leaves me feeling completely incapacitated all day long, so I had to give up on it. Even half of a 25 mg dose was too much. I couldn't last more than three days living in that strange, detached headspace where I practically forget my own name and feel totally disconnected from everything around me. My question is: is it worth persevering through the fog, hoping it eventually fades? Personally, I am hesitant to lose my current sense of self, even if I am a bit neurotic as it stands.😁
James Fowler3 said:I was wondering, if one were to embark on a regimen involving Eglonyl, how long does it typically take before the full effects actually manifest... 🙂
I would appreciate it if someone could correct me, but my experience has always been that it works almost immediately. That was certainly how it felt for me, and I believe my doctor mentioned the same thing.