granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
We accused you for good reason. If he is behaving exactly as you described, then he has clearly lost his grip on reality. Once someone loses touch with what is real, getting them to accept treatment becomes an uphill battle requiring immense persuasion. Can you not simply realize that this isn't him anymore? It isn't his true self; it is merely his illness.
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
If this is an ordeal for you, can you even fathom the agony he is enduring? It is no different than saying, "I should run away from someone battling cancer because watching them suffer is just too difficult for me."
But in this situation, who is truly suffering more? Is it the one enduring the actual pain, or the one who is "merely" forced to witness it? Really now...
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Why is it so incredibly difficult to grasp that the man is psychotic—that he is mentally ill—and that these actions are driven by his sickness rather than
HIM???
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Everything he does to you is not intentional; he does it because of his condition.
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Is that friend of yours truly a dangerous individual?
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
If anyone possesses the capacity to offer him support, then it must be those individuals who stand by his side alongside his true companions. Can we truly hope that you are a genuine friend, rather than merely someone who offers fair-weather loyalty when things are easy?
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Perhaps you should direct your attention toward that family member instead, for surely they are a far more significant figure in your life? Yet, I implore you, do not let this individual be overlooked as well.
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Is there any greater gift an ordinary person can offer to someone facing illness than the simple, profound act of presence? Truly, for those of us without medical training, staying by a loved one's side from the very beginning until the very end is the most significant and meaningful service we can possibly provide.
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Don't just go along with everything he says.
granitepuma26 said:Thanks for the input, everyone.
I get that you're all coming for me, but how am I supposed to maintain a friendship that isn't mutual? Constant accusations, insults, swearing, even threats.
I still pick up his calls because—just like you guys—I feel like I should, but it’s totally irrational. I couldn't just cut him off because I feel bad about his illness. I don't want to be like everyone else who just walked away. But this is genuine torture. That's why I'm struggling—do I stick by him or isolate myself just to survive? It doesn't feel like my presence actually helps him anyway.
Everything I say gets twisted; he acts like I'm attacking him, lying, or just being stupid. Real dialogue? Almost never happens.
He even puts me in awkward spots in front of people, trying to intimidate them. He's had run-ins with the law, too.
I tried to make it work—whatever, he's my friend—but it's getting harder every single day.
@Laura Castillo6, your comparisons don't hold water. I wouldn't run from someone with a disability or a Muslim woman, but I'd definitely run from a psychotic killer. And this guy isn't either of those. Or am I supposed to look at a psycho killer and say, "Well, it's not his fault, he's just sick"???
I talked to his parents. There's nothing they can do.
Look, if all of you who have more experience with this think staying is the right move, fine. That's why I asked. But this is the first opinion I've heard like this—everyone else tells me to get out before I end up in trouble or just wasting my life and energy. They tell me it shouldn't be my burden since he isn't alone and has parents. Honestly, I'm dealing with similar issues with a family member, so this hits extra close to home.
So, give me some actual advice: how should I carry myself? How can my company actually be useful to him? How do I act when he attacks me or mocks me... How am I supposed to force myself to validate everything he says, even when he's saying horrific things? And how do I handle it when he demands I defend him to others, or wants me to tell people he's a god?
Explain to him that while we all hold different perspectives on how the world operates, any attempt to force his views through violence will be utterly futile, and he should fully expect to face consequences should he resort to such aggressive tactics.