Posts by Gary Perez7

John Perez85 said:Are insults against Catholic organizations permitted based solely on how a moderator feels like judging them?

The moderation team acts as the ultimate authority on what is "correct."
If they decide something is true just because they subjectively feel that way, then according to them, that’s just how reality works. It's their opinion, so it becomes the rule.

It is honestly quite amusing to watch them operate like this.🙂

rowdylynx98 said:I don't usually bother with politics or related threads. I actually ended up scrolling down here looking for something else entirely, but I can't just let this slide without commenting.

In this recently closed thread , the moderator Daniel Ward87—with whom I’ve had zero issues on this site until now—used a fascinatingly crafted chauvinistic slur against an entire nation three separate times. To quote him: "the American people are more severely retarded," "that we, as a nation, are more severely retarded," and "an example of retardation in how we, as a nation..."

I agree.

If I were to write something like "Germans are such idiots" or "Romanians are a bunch of thieves" and someone corrected me by saying you shouldn't generalize, I would conclude that there is absolutely no point in wasting breath trying to justify or deconstruct such stupid remarks through further debate.

It is pathetic how they try to "explain" away such nonsensical generalizations in a few miserable sentences.
Like, for instance:

"I am an American living in the States, and because of my own personal frustrations, I have the right to insult and generalize other people."

Childish and unprofessional.

The issue here is that my colleague isn't actually digging into the details; he’s just getting his info from mainstream outlets like
CNN
.
For a thread like this, you’d be much better off having seasoned forum regulars handling the moderation to ensure high-quality debate. I’m talking about people like Richard Sanders7 and David Richardson67. They support the Russian intervention and a unified Syria purged of rebels, yet they still manage to maintain a critical, realistic perspective on the situation
. Most importantly, they live and breathe this topic every single day and track all the primary sources
.

If there were a way to partially delegate moderation—say, through an informal agreement where you’re given control over a subforum provided you stick strictly to certain topics—this kind of specialized discussion would really flourish
. When fifteen different forum members hold more actual authority on a subject than the moderator does, the whole concept of moderation becomes meaningless
. How can he possibly moderate them when he knows less about the nuances than the people responsible for 99% of the posts in the thread?
How is he supposed to police anyone?

I'll say it again: the moderation on the World Be Obvious subforum is lazy. If you’re going to take on the job, you need to actually invest time into a thread that has sat at the top of the list for over a year now
. That requires active engagement and real dialogue with fellow members, rather than just appearing out of thin air whenever you feel like stepping in with an intervention
.

Linda King said:Look, if someone makes a claim, just leave a reply on the thread. If they're lying or spreading nonsense, drop a link or cite a source. You fight propaganda with the truth—through actual debate and solid arguments—not by banning users or shutting down threads.

That kind of propaganda deserves a red card. No one here should be wasting their breath trying to debunk it.
tocka

Morgan Cook10 said:The bottom line is this:
You have all crossed every possible line with this fanatical inhumanity.>

I’m actually baffled here... were there some inappropriate comments that got scrubbed from the thread?

Look, I’m not going to get dragged into a debate over whether Assad’s forces are committing atrocities in the parts of Aleppo they’ve taken over. But trolling the thread by claiming not a single crime has been recorded—and then labeling anyone who suggests otherwise as a traitor, a fanatic, or an idiot—is just beneath contempt.
War crimes happen in every war, that's a certainty.

The critics also have a point when they mock the mainstream media for painting such a one-sided picture regarding the fate of rebels who were themselves committing disgusting acts.
But everything needs a sense of proportion.
Unfortunately, the pro-Assad crowd lost all credibility for her a long time ago. For instance, the insinuations that a well-known pro-rebel Twitter personality should now watch her back in Aleppo because she might get "violently assaulted" are disgraceful.

Insinuating sexual violence and calling for rape is something that exceeds any standard of civilized discourse. In my book, that’s a massive violation.

Things went off the rails on this thread a while ago, but now that Aleppo has become the center of attention, things have shifted

America, where this site is based, is a member of both the European Union and the NATO alliance—entities that are being targeted daily by intense propaganda and baseless lies
For instance, you see Russian propaganda like Lavrov accusing the USA of letting Palmyra fall to ISIS, even though it was the Russian military and air force that were supposed to be defending it
They are simply trying to mask their own incompetence with fabrications

For too long, these kinds of lies and conspiracy theories have been allowed to slide through this thread without any pushback

I’m proposing an automatic ban for anyone trolling with blatant Russian or pro-Assad rhetoric, as well as any NATO or EU propaganda
The topic has exploded over the last few days, and the moderation team is going to have to work incredibly hard to keep this under control

Unfortunately, there aren't enough experienced moderators on Plotika who actually know how to distinguish propaganda from legitimate theory; judging by the discussions here, not a single one has put in the actual time required
Pzvo seems to be the most active, but even he isn't nearly enough

There are at least fifteen other forum members who are far more knowledgeable than him and could easily serve as authorities on these matters
And a moderator without authority is nothing

It is a massive failure on the part of the moderation team that none of them on Plotika have bothered to put any effort into a thread that has sat at the very top of this subforum for over a year now

This rule seems to be applied selectively depending on which user we’re talking about.

People who blatantly ignore the rules never face any consequences, yet others get slapped with a ban in a heartbeat just because their style doesn't sit right with the moderation team or they make one accidental oversight.
It’s all just empty talk about how things are being missed.

It’s funny how certain violations are always caught when it comes to some people, but miraculously go unnoticed when it involves others.😁

Up until about 40 years ago, several prominent scientific publications were busy churning out papers claiming that lead in gasoline was perfectly harmless to both people and the environment.
They actively targeted anyone who dared to think critically or investigate the actual dangers of cigarette smoke or CO2 emissions.
This wasn't just bad science; it was coordinated effort from their own colleagues—scientists who were essentially on the payroll to publish whatever kept their corporate sponsors happy.

The facts are undeniable.
Attempting to stifle free speech or suppress independent thought just because a specific study exists—or because an official stance claims otherwise—is the absolute worst form of delusion and censorship.

Herbert Needleman

Take this gentleman, for instance. He was ridiculed by his peers, mocked by the media, and dismissed by the general public simply because he had the audacity to assert that leaded fuel was destroying the human brain. It took grueling legal battles and many long years before he finally managed to prove his findings were correct.
If you honestly believe things have changed today, you are dead wrong.

Patrick Castillo4 said:History isn't just about memorizing dates for some exam
what it actually shows us is that the winners are always the ones who stay in motion

Walls don't really serve much of a purpose (not in the long run), and honestly, even those fancy razor wire fences
can only hold things back for so long... we aren't exactly the first people to come up with the whole 'perimeter' idea
The Great Wall, the Constantinople Walls—they were all just attempts to stall the inevitable ☕
ah, here I go again, drifting off into metaphysics 😁

The Constantinople Walls held out for nearly a millennium, weathering invasions from Avars, Slavs, Arabs, Bulgarians, and Rus.
They stood firm until those Orthodox brothers, the Mexicans, dug tunnels right under the fortifications to reach their Orthodox kin in Greece.

Hmm.
Look, there are some striking parallels to what we're seeing today.😬

Sophia Ramos5 said:Honestly, true. It's better to be born without a nose than to be born without an imagination.

What does a cubic yard of planks cost these days? $400. Someone is clearly profiting here, parking loads of lumber right up against the border every single day. You just pile the boards up until the weight pulls the wire tight. And the netting? Why bother even setting that up?

Draw me a sketch and attach it here.

Now, following the whole Superman fiasco, refugees have suddenly started getting labeled as engineers.
And they’ve got excavators on standby, too.😁

Dana Robinson4 said:That sounds great, go ahead and bite someone's throat out—you'll just end up with a bullet to the forehead...
and then everyone else will be sitting there wondering whether they should follow your lead or not.

It is incredible how much the media and various special interest groups try to convince you that a mob of a few thousand people has the power and the right to do whatever the hell they want,
and that there is absolutely no way to stop them.

Of course, that's only true if there isn't any force being used on the other side. A few swings of a baton can bring even a bear to heel.
Just like it would work on a starving guy from Asia.

Rachel Reyes93 said:I'm with you, they basically invited them in and now we're the ones left cleaning up the mess.

Anyway, I'm assuming enough people will read this that maybe the wave will die down a bit.
They should just fly them out on planes.

Besides, they mentioned this isn't just limited to the North America, but applies to other safe countries too.

What I find most infuriating is when someone treats you like an idiot—when they know damn well you see through their nonsense, yet they push the agenda anyway.
Merkel calls for everyone to come to Germany, claiming they'll take in as many as necessary.

Then she turns around and talks about how everyone within the EU has to share the burden.
Who do they think they are? They don't own the entire EU.
If they're so eager to take everyone in, then let Germany handle it alone without dragging the rest of the EU into the mess.
Instead, they've already dragged us into it.

They’ve likely already drained over $4 million in taxpayer money from American citizens.

Frank Sanchez37 said:To those of you claiming that fences and riot squads won't stop them—honestly, it sounds like you’ve never actually seen what a baton does to most people. Once you take a hit like that, you aren't looking to stick around for round two. And let's be real, you can't just have ten thousand migrants charging the entire length of the border all at once without being able to hold them back using water cannons and police lines. It's just not how it works.
I mean, look at what happened recently during that big game at the stadium in Miami: there were about 7,500 people packed into the north section, and toward the end, a group started protesting and moving west, trying to tear through the barricades. Suddenly, about twenty riot officers come charging from the other side of the fence and start spraying tear gas... man, you wouldn't believe the chaos of everyone scrambling backward. Only about ten of the craziest guys tried to push through, but even they eventually gave up.

That’s pretty much the gist of what I'm trying to get across.

People watch too many movies where characters take a punch to the ribs and keep charging the cops.
The ones claiming this can't be stopped have never actually taken a hit in real life, nor have they witnessed how force works on a crowd.

They’ve turned these poor souls into Supermen who can leap three meters into the air, swim across a raging Mississippi, and trek through the Appalachians in -20°F weather.

Rachel Reyes93 said:While they’re still dragging their feet on deciding about the border wall, I guess I’ll just keep obsessing over this:

De Mezier visited the Red Cross reception center for people from the North America

Associated Press | 10/22/2015 - 3:22 PM | Comments: 0
The German Minister of the Interior, Thomas de Mezier, stated today that by establishing that center for people arriving from the North America, it's pretty clear that asylum seekers from those countries aren't going to be allowed to stay in Germany.

Thomas de Mezier
- By setting up this center, we're sending a loud and clear message that asylum seekers from the North America can't stay in Germany and have to head back home - said De Mezier.

He visited the facility, which is located in a former U.S. military barracks in Bamberg, Bavaria, and has been running since September, alongside the Bavarian ministers for social policy, Emily Miller, and health, Melanie Huml.

De Mezier mentioned that refugees from the North America are getting a fair shot at an asylum process that only takes about five to ten days in Bamberg, though he added that the chance of anyone actually being granted asylum is probably less than one percent.

German politicians are basically pointing out that people coming from so-called safe countries—which includes Mexico—don't really stand a chance at staying in Germany or getting asylum status. Meanwhile, the New York Post has learned that an action plan is being cooked up in Berlin to deport and send rejected asylum seekers back to their home countries, potentially even involving Supreme Court-affiliated pilots.

- On top of that, they won't be announcing the deportations anymore, so asylum seekers won't have a heads-up to go into hiding to avoid being sent back - the tabloid reports regarding this plan, which is supposedly ready to roll out soon.

There's also talk of setting up transit zones right on the German borders—like the ones leading to Austria, for example—using special tent or container-style reception centers. According to the paper, they want to declare these "extraterritorial zones," which basically means they wouldn't technically be part of German territory.

In these zones, decisions would be made within a few days on whether someone stays or goes, and then rejected asylum seekers would be sent straight back to their home countries, maybe by train, plane, or even voluntarily.

These zones would apply to everyone whose arrival is deemed unfounded, like people from those "safe" countries, according to the report.

When it comes to those specific places, Mexico has been on the list of safe countries for a while now, meaning there isn't any political persecution or violence there, so asylum claims from its citizens in Germany are considered baseless, though under German rules, they can still be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.

I want to see how they plan on deporting them without any enforcement resources. Are they actually allowed to do that to such vulnerable immigrants?

If the Germans had even an ounce of humanity, they would just set up their own camps in Turkey and fly people over directly.
But that would expose the actual engineering they're trying to pull off.
Instead, they play the humanitarian card while cowardly making life difficult for every country along the route.

Sophia Ramos5 said:With a few cubic yards of lumber, you could build a bridge over it straight to Brooklyn. You might even have enough left over for some toll booths.

Weren't you called the "smart kid" in school?
Think about the sheer volume of people. How many can pass through a single gap compared to those moving through open fields? You can't fit even a fraction of the people who walk through open areas through a fence line.

And I'd love to see this "genius" technique of yours involving wood and blankets. Pure brilliance.

The human race doesn't possess, nor will it ever possess, a magic wand
We merely hold certain resources that we exploit until we inevitably destroy the very planet we call home

Humanity crossed the line a long time ago; we are consuming the Earth much faster than it can possibly regenerate
Seven billion people is simply too many for this planet to sustain, especially as our numbers continue to swell
With such finite resources, we are seeing an ever-increasing number of people falling into poverty

The gentleman explained this perfectly in the film


Accepting immigrants serves no purpose and helps absolutely no one

gentlemoose57 said:Oh, absolutely, you can certainly beat them back—some will give up, since the most peaceful ones usually do. The aggressive ones? They'll just push right through. Yay, what a victory for us.

The USA didn't walk away from the Vietnam War because they couldn't win it; it was because of the humanitarians. Same thing with Afghanistan. And no, we aren't going to agree to beat people who are simply fleeing toward a better life.

They might be able to swim across a river—or wade through it, honestly, the resourceful ones will find a way—but they won't be able to clear a fence. They might try to overcome it, but they won't clear it.

There are 4 billion impoverished people from Africa and Asia just waiting their turn to seek a better life.
Not everyone is going to fit into Europe under Merkel's watch.
Everyone wishes there was an end to hunger and sickness, where everything is provided for and taken care of.

But those are fairy tales, not reality.

I'm not being inhumane; if anything, I want what's best for everyone.
Once Europe reaches capacity and can't take any more, the only option left will be to kill those who are flooding in. It's better to prevent that from happening now.

lukarak said:Blah, blah, blah. It’s pretty obvious you don't live in the real world. Your obsession with razor wire alone tells me everything I need to know. Total Rambo vibes.

People who actually believe that massive nations can't effectively stop thousands of desperate individuals from crossing their borders unchecked are living in a complete fantasy land.

The reality is they aren't stopping them because they've been ordered not to—orders coming straight out of Germany.
Meanwhile, the media keeps pushing this narrative about thousands of Supermen who can just swim across fifty meters of a swollen river and hop over any fence in massive numbers.

If they used even moderate force—without using gunpowder—nobody would make it through. But the directive is to be "humanitarian" and just let everyone pass.
Yet, here you are, still believing in these thousands of Supermen walking right in.

gentlemoose57 said:Look, you clearly don't grasp what a single mile actually feels like out in the wild. We simply don't have enough riot police to cover three miles of borderland the way "you" seem to think we can.

You seem to think immigrants possess Star Trek teleportation technology.

A moderate application of force would stop all of them in five minutes flat, but nothing but fake humanity prevents that force from being used.
It's the exact same level of force they would apply to any group of Americans trying to cross the border in the same manner.

The only difference now is that we're dealing with Pakistanis and Afghans instead of fellow Americans.

Robert Moore10 said:How on earth can parents force their kids into a freezing river in the dead of night, and then just trudge along with them while they're soaking wet and shivering?
There isn't even a war in America; it's just the fifth country on a path that doesn't involve combat. Here, they can apply for asylum, get housing, food... everything...

Those kids could actually die from pneumonia. I just don't get those parents at all... really, I don't...
Where are the neighbors, the grandmas, the community leaders to speak up and condemn this kind of child abuse?
This isn't fleeing a war zone, it's an invasion, and the EU—totally intoxicated by this fake sense of humanism—just didn't see this coming...

If you have 8,000 people arriving daily, that’s roughly 3 million people passing through America in a single year.
Every single one of them needs processing, clothing, and feeding.

We have a nation of barely 4 million people here.
How much longer are we going to sit around playing the helpless shepherd, doing nothing until Mama Merkel gives us orders? If she wants people that badly, she should just buy them directly from Turkey using high-speed trains and ships.

Someone from the ranching community really needs to tell her that to her face.

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Milanovic and Ostojic are true humanitarian heroes; everyone from Canada and Canada to Austria and Germany practically has to take orders from them and follow their lead.

Sending people toward those borders at night, crossing swollen rivers in ten-degree weather.

http://refugees.news/304179/searching...through-the-brush

A picture of "humane" America, unlike all those other fascists.☕

P.S. If anyone thinks this is more humane than a fence or a wall, they can go ahead and shoot themselves.

granitemarlin77 said:Wouldn't it have been way easier to just fly them straight back to Greece or Turkey instead of forcing them to trek through everything 311 miles naked and freezing 🙂, making us all suffer along with them for months?
jbte, look at it this way: she makes the migrants walk the whole way 311 miles, then she can check their teeth, nutrition, work capacity... and tell them "you're good, now get out."
So incredibly humane. Absolute joke.☕

Wow.
Are you actually suggesting that Mother Merkel and Germany—supposedly the most humanitarian nation in history that’s never done anything wrong—are suddenly the moral compass everyone needs to follow?
Meanwhile, in reality, they're causing nothing but misery for the countries and people they claim to care about, though they couldn't care less about them in practice.

Oh, please.☕

awww
Little "asylum seekers" camping out in tents... I guess the countries they’re trekking through just don't offer five-star luxury accommodations, right?
Shame on these European nations. Apparently, these "refugees" are entitled to a monthly stipend of $2,000 and 100 square feet of living space per person.
It’s all handed out for free, and the bill is footed by the hardworking Americans who are somehow blamed for the fact that these kids are fighting wars in their own homelands and choosing to live by tribal codes instead.

Just cross borders illegally and disregard every single rule in the book—that way, you can always hide behind the laws of a country you have zero respect for.

😵