Posts by David Vaughn75

Zachary Cox69 said:"There’s nothing worse than running into one of those hyper-cynical, ideologically obsessed critics—those propaganda-style spin doctors who never actually offer an original thought or take a real stand. They just relentlessly harp on and on about anyone brave enough to disagree with them.
Those types basically kill entire discussions.
They drive people away and poison the whole environment.

Well, that describes you perfectly, Terminator!"

Oldie hit the nail on the head there...

But don't act like you're any better.

John Doe and those religious zealots, 'Eastern spirituality is garbage,' 'homosexuality is a sin'—it's just the same tired phrases you've been looping for months now.

neonmarlin39 said:Look, whether you show up or disappear, whether you exist or not, the entire universe is still just... there. It’s still existing. Objective reality doesn't give a damn about you or any other individual. The cosmos doesn't care about your mind or how you perceive things—it exists regardless of your presence or lack thereof.

Concepts and preconceptions are just mental categories—they don't exist out there in the physical cosmos without a mind to house them.

If there isn't anyone around to actually experience a concept coming to life, then the concept itself doesn't even exist.

I don't know about you guys, but I’ve been staring at my screen for twenty minutes trying to wrap my head around this whole mess—it’s just one thing after another lately, isn't it? Honestly, it feels like we're living through some kind of fever dream where nothing makes sense anymore. I was sitting there at a diner in Chicago yesterday, just nursing a lukewarm coffee and watching the news, thinking about how much everything has shifted. It's exhausting. You try to stay informed, you try to keep up with the madness, but sometimes it feels like you're just shouting into a void while the rest of the country moves in a completely different direction. It’s enough to make anyone want to just unplug and disappear for a while, but we all know that's not really an option in this day and age. Anyway, I'm just venting—standard procedure at this point, right? Just my two cents on the absolute chaos we're dealing with. kaže:
What babies? What are you even talking about?
In Egypt? Seriously?
I mean, let’s be real here—weren't they just out there killing Jewish babies for absolutely no reason at all?
Hold on a second!
Honestly, I hope that boomerang comes flying right back at them. Let them feel exactly how much this kind of injustice stings—it’s about damn time they got a taste of their own medicine.
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So, we’re talking about the Amalekites again—and man, it’s dark. We're looking at that whole stretch where God basically tells Saul to go scorched earth, wiping out absolutely everyone in his path, and yeah, that includes the infants. It’s heavy stuff, honestly. Just one of those parts of the Bible that makes you sit back and wonder what the hell was going through anyone's head back then.
So, according to your logic, we should just go out and hunt down innocent babies because of some nonsense their ancestors pulled? That’s a hell of a worldview you've got there. Seriously. Should the French just start liquidating Germans to settle the score for everything that went down in the past? What kind of twisted thinking is that?

So, what, you're asking if I'm gay too? Honestly, man, does it even matter? In this crazy-ass world where everything feels like a circus, I feel like people spend way too much time obsessing over who's sleeping with whom instead of, I don't know, actually living their lives. It’s all just noise at this point—just more static in an already loud-as-hell existence.
My bad—didn't realize that.
Look, they aren't out there executing people anymore—they’re just marching around in formation. Honestly? I don't give a damn about that part. It doesn't move the needle for me. At the end of the day, when God finally decides to sit in judgment and settle the score for everyone, those self-righteous "Christians" won't get any special treatment either. They'll be judged right alongside the deviants, the predators, and the rest of the crowd. Everyone's going to answer for what they did.

Look, I’m not gay, but you really ought to be sweating this—if you actually give a damn about what the Bible says. Seriously, if you're following those scriptures, they're pretty clear about the whole "death penalty" thing for homosexuals. So, if you’re sitting there acting all offended or trying to play the moral high ground against that, then fine—you’re basically just spitting in the face of Biblical law and everything God laid out. You can't pick and choose which parts of the Word to follow when it suits your modern sensibilities, right? If you're against that kind of justice, then yeah, you're officially standing against the Bible itself. Period.

Zachary Cox69 said:😂
Zachary, why even start a thread if you clearly have no clue what you're talking about?
It's pretty obvious there's no real desire to learn here—you seem totally closed off to any new perspective. You know what they say: there's no shame in not knowing something, but there's definitely shame in being too stubborn to find out.

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Zachary, why even start a thread if you clearly have no clue what you're talking about?
It's pretty obvious there's no real desire to learn here—you seem totally closed off to any new perspective. You know what they say: there's no shame in not knowing something, but there's definitely shame in being too stubborn to find out.
Only an incredibly foolish person would try to summon spirits after reading about how dangerous it is. In that same vein, I'm not interested in Yoga or other Eastern teachings, even if they aren't quite as risky. They just don't interest me enough to dive in. Whether we trust someone or not—well, it depends on whether that person is actually worthy of our trust. To me, those things pull people away from God and wreck both the soul and the psyche. I believe the people who say that.
For example, you obviously aren't interested in Christ. You haven't studied the New Testament closely, yet you still jump into debates about Christianity. The Bible is so good and so true that I have no need for things like the Bhagavad Gita or whatever. Jesus is so incredible that I have zero interest in the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I might read a little bit about it here and there, but the idea of actually immersing myself in that nonsense never even crosses my mind. It's pretty simple—if you want to ride a horse, you aren't going to go looking for a donkey instead.
Only an incredibly foolish person would try to summon spirits after reading about how dangerous it is. In that same vein, I'm not interested in Yoga or other Eastern teachings, even if they aren't quite as risky. They just don't interest me enough to dive in. Whether we trust someone or not—well, it depends on whether that person is actually worthy of our trust. To me, those things pull people away from God and wreck both the soul and the psyche. I believe the people who say that.
For example, you obviously aren't interested in Christ. You haven't studied the New Testament closely, yet you still jump into debates about Christianity. The Bible is so good and so true that I have no need for things like the Bhagavad Gita or whatever. Jesus is so incredible that I have zero interest in the teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I might read a little bit about it here and there, but the idea of actually immersing myself in that nonsense never even crosses my mind. It's pretty simple—if you want to ride a horse, you aren't going to go looking for a donkey instead.
Personally, what really gets under my skin about the Bible is when God orders these massive wars, wipes out infants, or calls for the killing of homosexuals and young boys—stuff like that. For me, that's definitely not "super."

bluemason3 said:Of course. You see, nobody is stopping you from following those blatant lies peddled by some obscure, perverse Middle Eastern sect—one full of occultism and even cannibalistic undertones. It’s a group responsible for an incredible amount of evil, violence, and the gross abuse of power... 🤷

But look at this clown—he actually claims suicide is a major issue within Islam, and then turns around and acts like they aren't out there disrespecting everyone else.

Zachary Cox69 said:You call that spitting on someone?
If someone is heading down the wrong path, let them go—let them crash. If they want to follow a false God, let them. If some nonsense starts preaching stuff like "don't have sex in marriage, just hold back," fine, let them believe it. If they think something isn't a sin when it actually is—like refusing to eat meat—let them be.
Look, if something stinks, you say it stinks. You don't tell someone it smells great just because their nose is broken.
Or if they're blind, let them walk their own way, even if they end up walking straight off a cliff.
Even within Christianity, you find spiritual wreckage and total nonsense—look at suicide bombers in Islam, for instance. Are we allowed to condemn that?

You aren't "letting them go"—you're just calling them crazy. That’s what spitting on them actually looks like.

Zachary Cox69 said:Think if you want.
They worship someone who isn't God, chanting "Hare Hare ...." through neighborhoods and streets.
They give up all sorts of foods that God provided for us to eat—not to mention a lot of couples giving up sex.
If those people seem normal to you, then something is definitely off.

So, what does actual Christianity say about this? Is it really okay to just go around insulting and spitting on everyone else?

Zachary Cox69 said:Knowing something from the inside isn't the same as looking in from the outside. An addict might think drugs are great, too. But I don't need to consume them to understand the consequences.
Some people know a ton about groups like Temple Nation, Jehovah's Witnesses, Hare Krishna, or Scientology, so they're "informed," even if being involved is a bad move. Summoning spirits is dangerous, yet people do it anyway. Magic is the same way—black or white, people still mess with it.

Just because you're looking at something from the outside doesn't mean you've got it right—you could be totally misreading the situation.

Look, I took a look at Hare Krishna from the outside once, and honestly? I saw an awesome religion.

Paul Rogers94 said:I actually spent most of my day reading some debate on this topic (the rest was spent trolling both Christians and anti-Christians on the forums), and your questions hit right on the pulse of those ideas. To avoid spamming you with quotes, if you're interested, there's a PDF by Ramesh Balsekar titled No More Confusion for Spiritual Seekers (check out chapter Sin and Guilt starting on page 16)
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If only that learned priest would remember that no human being has the capacity to grasp the mechanics behind how God's will operates. If he could just recall that God didn't conjure this entire universe solely for the benefit of His beloved human children, he wouldn't be throwing around so many assertions with the misplaced confidence of God's personal secretary or best friend. The priest's statements give the impression he's forgotten that God created a universe that doesn't just consist of one type of object called a "human being," but thousands of other species and objects that all work together to form the totality of the manifested world!

The whole issue of sin and guilt only arises from the assumption that human will is what's acting, rather than God's. If someone fully, unconditionally accepts the phrase "Thy will be done" and does exactly what their programming dictates—without any sense of personal agency—then the concepts of sin or merit simply cannot emerge. And that is precisely it: if someone is able to participate in life and accept everything that happens as God's will in the moment—whether it's pleasure or pain, joy or misery, success or failure—that is self-realization. In that state, the sage participates in life without any burden of sin or guilt weighing down their mind.

God's will is for everyone to get a better deal than they actually deserve—that's where He steps in.

Zachary Cox69 said:Created desires???
I mean, seriously, how can anyone exist without having their own personal desires if we're supposedly free beings?
It’s either you're a robot or you're a person. Period.

There you go again with this whole robot obsession. Look, having desires is one thing—pleasing God is a completely different ballgame. God is our Creator, right? He's basically our Father. So, if He says, "Hey, don't do that," and I actually trust Him, I'm not gonna do it. People aren't built that way—God doesn't create trash. These people are just moral disasters, driven by Satan to act out like this. If they actually gave a damn about God, if they truly honored and respected Him, they wouldn't be doing this stuff.

Alright, why don't you enlighten me then: where do these desires even come from, and who put them inside us in the first place?

A son uses drugs because he simply doesn't give a damn about God, his parents, or even himself. It's just like, "Whatever, I don't care." Half the junkies out there had great parents and total financial security, yet they still choose to chase that high.

Yeah, sure, he's using drugs *because* of God—what a random choice to just wreck your entire life for no reason at all.😵

No son, whether he's yours or mine, is some kind of divine sacrifice. The world we live in? We made it, not God. God is the Absolute up in heaven, living in eternal life, not down here. Down here, people just do a lot of shitty things—it's got nothing to do with God or fate.

God created one soul in a nice suburb in Connecticut, and another one in a war zone in Somalia.

God decided that one person would be born into a civilized, loving family, while someone else gets dropped right into the middle of a collapsed state in the middle of a war.

Zachary Cox69 said:But he doesn't drink water.
It’s like there were only two options: create robots or create people with free will.
So, He creates them and says, "You have everything, it's all great, just don't touch this one thing—you don't need it. If you touch it, it means you aren't listening to me or respecting me, and remember, I made you, so you exist because of me."

Or look at it this way—a father tells his son, "Son, I'm giving you everything, your whole life is thanks to me, please just stay away from drugs; they're bad, they're evil, and they'll kill you."
The kid ignores his father's advice anyway, does hard drugs, and dies at 19.
Is the father responsible for his death?

The real kicker is why God would build the urge to disobey right into our DNA in the first place.

I mean, look—I’m definitely never going to hurt a kid because that’s not how I’m wired, but pedophiles are essentially born with this twisted drive to prey on children, and they suffer if they actually try to fight their own nature.

Or, a father tells his son: "Son, I've given you everything, you're alive because of me, please just stay away from drugs, it's bad, it's evil, it'll kill you."
But the kid ignores all that fatherly advice, starts doing crack, and ends up dead at 19.
Is the father responsible for his death?

The kid turns to drugs because his entire life is a wreck, and his life is a wreck because he couldn't survive the trial God put him through.

A kid doesn't use "free will" to choose being born in a war-torn country, living in absolute poverty, having physical disabilities, dealing with a brutal disease, getting beaten and abused, or having zero love in his life. That stuff was chosen for him by God.

Anthony Perez9 said:What’s the point of all these church dogmas about Jesus when it comes to spirituality?
There’s probably a subforum for this kind of stuff...

So he basically made them flawed just so they'd end up tumbling into hell.
What were they missing while standing right next to "God—aka true love, happiness, prosperity, and wisdom"?
Either it's some scabby God... or his creatures are just crazy. Take your pick.

"This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a propitiation for our sins" (1 John 4:10);

Well, it does say he "sent his Son," since the Son begged the Father three times NOT to send him. (Columbus 12:7) 😂

"But God shows his love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)

And look, he's still alive. So who's really doing who? (Columbus 12:7)

The Catechism of the Catholic Church covers this topic quite extensively in an entire chapter, so I'm sending you a link that I'm sure will be very useful: http://www.katolici.org/kaekizam.php...=r_vidi&id=237

A one-sided Catholic manifesto? For what?

Similarly, Professor John Karlić, in his article "Judgment and Death of Jesus of Nazareth," thoroughly examines the historical, social, and theological elements of Christ's death: hrcak.srce.hr/file/40376

He doesn't have anything to do with historians or actual science.

He began his studies in philosophy and theology at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. (for three years), and continued at the Pontifical Theological faculty (PFT) "St. Bonaventure" in Rome, where he graduated in theology in 1988. That same year, he enrolled in graduate studies at the same faculty (specializing in dogmatic theology/christology) and earned his Master of Theological Sciences degree.

So, just a blowhard with some church-issued (worthless) "degrees."

Crazy Damir

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Insane...

Yeah, that’s exactly where I hit the wall with this whole thing—it’s a massive contradiction.
If every single person who ever walked this earth has been sinning, then you have to face the fact that God designed us to be prone to it; our very nature today is fundamentally broken.

They love to preach about "free will" and how we choose to sin, but let's get real: a man dying of thirst is always going to reach for water. It’s not some grand moral choice—he’s just wired that way. He was designed to crave water when he's thirsty, plain and simple.

Zachary Cox69 said:No! That's my answer.

God is a righteous God—a God of justice. Even our legal system doesn't just let people walk free without cause.
A violation leads to a penalty. If someone admits they're guilty and shows remorse, they might get a lighter sentence, but they aren't just "forgiven" and set free instantly.
Even in your view of Hinduism, there's a consequence. It's basically "you reap what you sow"—which is why souls move through different levels of existence, right? haha.
The apostle writes something along the lines of: "Through one man, Adam, sin entered us all (our sinful nature), and through another, Christ, comes liberation."
Look, nobody is perfect; everyone has fallen short, and we're all sinners—some more than others. For those who hand over their sinful nature and their sins to God and truly repent, that sin is placed on Christ. It's taken out of them—it's gone. But there's a catch: men and women still need to strive to sin less. Even after handing those sins to God, they won't suddenly become flawless. They're just seeking forgiveness. You've probably read the story of the Prodigal Son. God's love has no limits—He loves us and understands us—but the law of justice demands satisfaction. God forgives when we repent because there is someone who sacrificed Himself for us.
Think of it like this: if the law hits you with a massive fine... a penalty you simply can't pay... and someone else steps up and pays it for you, the law lets you go, right?

Look, God sets the rules and God judges based on those rules—so basically, God can bail me out of any penalty whenever He feels like it. I mean, if He's actually Almighty, why wouldn't He?

Whether Jesus exists or not doesn't change a single damn thing about that logic.

You’re just circling back to the exact stuff I already told you I don't get.

So, look—can God actually forgive people's sins without Christ being nailed to that cross? A straight yes or no.
And if He can, why on earth would God send His own Son to bail us out from the judgment of that very same God?

Zachary Cox69 said:Jesus didn't need to suffer for His own sake, but for ours. He took our sins upon Himself, even though He was without sin.

Honestly, I’m just sitting here scratching my head over this sentence.

I mean, seriously—why can't God just forgive our mess-ups without having to put His own Son through a crucifixion?

Zachary Cox69 said:Where and how exactly did Paul test God?

So why on earth would you throw a quote about testing Him in my face?

You totally missed my point here.
Look, you swear by the miracles in the Bible and all that—but what if some guy walks up to you today, claims he’s the Son of God, and tells you to follow him? If he starts claiming he can walk on water, would you actually buy that? You say there’s no reason not to believe the Bible, but fine—so why wouldn't you apply that same logic to someone making those exact same claims right in front of you today?

Zachary Cox69 said:Jesus Satan said, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down—because it's written that He will command His angels to protect you."

And Jesus answered, "Do not put the Lord your God to the test."
So, there’s your answer right there.

I mean, if even Paul wasn't out here trying to test God, why on earth would you think you could?

Go ahead, jump off a skyscraper and just assume God's gonna break your fall because He's capable of it. See how that works out for you.

Zachary Cox69 said:

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Because Jesus Christ told them to:

And He said to them: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will pick up snakes; and if they drink anything fatal, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick, and they will recover."
After he said this, the Lord Jesus was taken up into heaven and sat at the right hand of God.

So, a fake Jesus led some people to handle snakes, claiming faith in Him would protect them from venom.

That’s just how you sound when you read Jesus superficially. He called certain Pharisees a "brood of vipers"—you don't think he actually meant they were literal snakes, right? Or when He used metaphors like "whitewashed tombs" or told people, "You have the Devil as your father" (which, honestly, he'd say to you too).
Jesus speaks in imagery—think about it. He basically implies that nothing can touch you unless God allows it. Look at Paul—the Bible says he was bitten by a snake and walked away totally fine. There are always fools in every faith, just like there are in atheism. You can't escape it. Christianity isn't immune to stupidity. People like that have nothing to do with Christ.

Would you seriously let a cobra or some nasty snake bite you just because you were banking on God to magically neutralize the venom?

frozenstag9 said:Look, if you're planning on being a surfer riding the waves of the universe, you've really got to master the art of both materializing and dematerializing matter.

Look, you can't ride those waves without God and some genuine love for every living thing out there.

The problem is you just don't get it right now because you're coasting on good karma—you're basically burning through a savings account you didn't even earn. But mark my words, when karma finally decides to slap you across the face and snap your spine, you're gonna spiral straight into total darkness because you won't have a clue what you did to mess things up so badly.

Justin Baker6 just set up some new profile called Unknown.

Man, this guy is constantly trolling me and messing with my head in every single post he makes.