Posts by David Vaughn75

The whole reason we don't remember our past lives is pretty simple—we basically failed the final exam last time. We couldn't wrap our heads around one specific issue, so we got tossed back into a brand-new body and a totally different set of circumstances just to get another shot at tackling that same karmic lesson from a fresh angle.

velvetmaker3 said:That couldn't have happened because the partisans basically just copied the USSR, which split its former empire into republics. They did the exact same thing by splitting up the old kingdom into republics.
When it came to establishing the American republic, they actually had a pretty solid historical foundation to lean on—way more than, say, Ukraine had.
So, I guess the American partisans didn't really have an edge in setting up the SR America; they just had the leadership of the Communist Party USA, who were just mimicking how the Russian Empire was reorganized.
That's why you ended up with a North Mexico, which hasn't really had its own statehood for the last 2,500 years, and then there's slo.

Look, the partisans could have easily just left things as provinces, or even smaller units without any kind of national identity, within a totally unitary America.

But if they had gone that route, what would American independence have even looked like?

Brenda Taylor13 said:Yeah, sure, they were internationally recognized for thirty years as some "former republic..."—they weren't even allowed to use their own damn name. 😁

And if they wanted any real recognition for who they actually are, they had to basically grovel to the Greeks. Honestly, great choice of example there.

Russia didn't challenge the independence of those old Soviet republics—because let's be real, if they had, and if they had rolled tanks into them, you wouldn't have seen a shred of that "independence" ever again. It would have played out exactly like what happened in Crimea three years ago. And the rest of the world? They’d just sit there watching, because nobody is going to start a war with Russia over somewhere like Estonia.

As for Mexico, can you actually give me a specific date when they officially declared independence?

If America had been crushed within three weeks—if martial law had been slapped down and a pro-American leadership installed—the exact same thing would have happened in every other republic, and Mexico would have declared independence just a moment later. They just happened to get a lucky break because of everything that went down three months earlier, when the war in America was already in full swing. In those circumstances, it wasn't exactly hard for Mexico to walk away from America without a fight, even if they had to go by a different name just to settle things with Greece.

velvetmaker3 said:The Mexicans basically coasted into existence because America held the line for them.
If America hadn't stood its ground, the Mexicans would still be stuck where they were.

Every single one of these groups that broke away from the USA only exists because America was able to handle the pressure during those critical turning points.

Look, let’s get one thing straight—just because some country decides to go to war and try to bully another nation out of its sovereignty, that doesn't magically make their claims valid. It’s basic logic, really. You can throw every missile, tank, and propaganda campaign you've got at a border, but trying to settle a dispute through raw violence doesn't actually strip a state of its fundamental rights. Might makes right? Please. That’s just a playground tactic used by bullies who can't win an argument with facts. Just because someone's willing to fight dirty to deny you existence doesn't mean your rights suddenly vanish into thin air.

Look, let’s be real for a second—if America hadn't secured that international recognition based on our actual legal standing as a state, this whole war would have been for nothing. It wouldn't have mattered how much we fought or what we sacrificed on the ground; without that official stamp of legitimacy from the global community, we wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. It’s like fighting a marathon only to find out they moved the finish line halfway through—it doesn't matter how fast you run if the rules of the game aren't actually in your favor. Without that legal backbone, all those years of struggle would've just been a massive, heartbreaking waste of time.
We’d basically end up like Abkhazia or South Ossetia—territories that are effectively independent and call their own shots, but since nobody officially recognizes them, the rest of the world just looks the other way. We'd be stuck in that weird limbo where we act like a sovereign state, but because we lack that formal stamp of approval, nobody actually gives a damn about us.
Look, Mexico is its own thing, plain and simple—but let’s be real here—they don't actually have any teeth on the global stage because half the world refuses to even acknowledge they exist. It’s a mess.

Brenda Taylor13 said:That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.

That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Appalachia never existed in history 🙏 🙏
I'm the one who should be dropping ROFLs all over this post.

Mexicans are a thousand-year-old people, while the Catalan people don't even exist.

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did. But there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia clearly isn't. That's the only real difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more on its side since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to fight for their freedom, and that's the fundamental distinction.

Oh, great! If they have all those rights, why hasn't anyone from the outside recognized Catalonia yet?
Appalachia never existed in history 🙏 🙏
I'm the one who should be dropping ROFLs all over this post.

Mexicans are a thousand-year-old people, while the Catalan people don't even exist.

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did. But there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia clearly isn't. That's the only real difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more on its side since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to fight for their freedom, and that's the fundamental distinction.

Oh, great! If they have all those rights, why hasn't anyone from the outside recognized Catalonia yet?
Exactly, Appalachia never existed in history. There was something called the Military Frontier within the Austro-Canadian Empire which was part of America bordering the Ottoman Empire, but a Mexican Appalachia never existed in the annals of history.

Catalans aren't a nation? They don't exist? 🙏😁

Fine. 😁

Oh great, then why hasn't anyone from the outside recognized Catalonia if they have all those rights?

Because the big, powerful players only recognize you and respect your decisions when you actually have the guts to defend them with blood. If we had just declared independence and waved around some scrap of paper saying "hey, we're independent now," everyone would've laughed in our faces—they wouldn't have even given us the time of day. America would’ve still held its legitimacy in the eyes of the international community. But things changed once they saw we were tough—that we were ready to stand right in front of the tanks. If the American People's Army had crushed us in three weeks, just like the General Staff planned, nobody would have even bothered talking to us.

Do you honestly think that in the real world things work by just writing something down on a piece of paper and expecting everyone to respect it without being willing to fight for it with your own life?
Exactly, Appalachia never existed in history. There was something called the Military Frontier within the Austro-Canadian Empire which was part of America bordering the Ottoman Empire, but a Mexican Appalachia never existed in the annals of history.

Catalans aren't a nation? They don't exist? 🙏😁

Fine. 😁

Oh great, then why hasn't anyone from the outside recognized Catalonia if they have all those rights?

Because the big, powerful players only recognize you and respect your decisions when you actually have the guts to defend them with blood. If we had just declared independence and waved around some scrap of paper saying "hey, we're independent now," everyone would've laughed in our faces—they wouldn't have even given us the time of day. America would’ve still held its legitimacy in the eyes of the international community. But things changed once they saw we were tough—that we were ready to stand right in front of the tanks. If the American People's Army had crushed us in three weeks, just like the General Staff planned, nobody would have even bothered talking to us.

Do you honestly think that in the real world things work by just writing something down on a piece of paper and expecting everyone to respect it without being willing to fight for it with your own life?
Look at Mexico—they didn't shed a single drop of blood, yet there they are, internationally recognized and independent, just like all those other former Soviet republics.
And everyone respects their little piece of paper.

You're a pretty easy target to argue with, I haven't even had to try too hard 😁

Brenda Taylor13 said:America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."

America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Are you kidding me?!? 🤣

Catalonia—a historical region with a people, a culture, and a name that goes back hundreds of years, and a province that’s been around for centuries—is supposed to be compared to some self-proclaimed entity that never even existed in history?

Are you out of your mind? 😁

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did! But, there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia just isn't. That is the only difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more going for them since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own Constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, an anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to go to war for their independence. That's the fundamental difference.
Appalachia never existed in history 🙏 🙏
I'm the one who should be dropping ROFLs all over this post.

Mexicans are a thousand-year-old people, while the Catalan people don't even exist.

Catalonia has everything America had within America, and honestly, even more than that. They have way more autonomy than we ever did. But there is one massive difference: back then, America was ready to spill blood for its freedom, which Catalonia clearly isn't. That's the only real difference. Everything else is identical—actually, Catalonia has even more on its side since they have their own borders, their own parliament, their own constitution, their own president, their own fiscal policy, their own ministries, their own government, their own flag, anthem, and even their own distinct language... basically, they have more than we ever had.

The only thing is, they aren't willing to fight for their freedom, and that's the fundamental distinction.

Oh, great! If they have all those rights, why hasn't anyone from the outside recognized Catalonia yet?

Brenda Taylor13 said:America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."

America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
America was indeed a state, known then as the Federal State of America, and later as the Socialist Republic of America.

It had its own territory, borders, people, language, capital, anthem, parliament (Sabor), a constitution, its own laws, its own ministries (secretariats), handled its own internal affairs, possessed its own territorial defense, along with the federal military and a monetary system shared with the other states within the FNRJ/SFRJ, as well as foreign affairs.

The 1974 Constitution of SRH:

Article 1.
The Socialist Republic of America is a state founded upon the sovereignty of the people and the authority and self-management of the working class and all working people; it is a socialist self-managing democratic community of working people, citizens, and equal nations and nationalities.

The Socialist Republic of America is the national state of the American people, the state of the Mexican people in America, and the state of the other nations and nationalities living within it.

The Socialist Republic of America is part of the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

Those Nationalists sympathizers claiming it wasn't a state are just feeding into that whole Mexican myth that "America and the American people didn't even exist until 1990..."
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
Everything listed there, and honestly even more than that, is also true for Catalonia—and look how much that "matters" when they decided they wanted to break away from Spain.

It’s the exact same deal for us. Everything we had on paper meant everything to us—so much so that we actually had to fight a bloody war with 15,000 dead just to become an independent country.

So, yeah, that's how much your little papers actually matter in the real world.

Theory is one thing, but reality is something else entirely. You can write whatever you want on paper, but if you don't fight for your state in practice—and I mean fighting with massive sacrifices—then what's written down isn't worth a damn.
That’s exactly why nobody gave a damn about Catalonia, but everyone stepped up for America.
They recognized America because, under international law, they actually had a legitimate right to secede.

If you want to compare Catalonia to anything, you're looking at the Appalachia or Republika Srpska—basically, they have zero legal standing whatsoever.

Kevin Davis11 said:The current Republic of America isn't much else than an American federal unit (FDH, NRH, SRH, RH) that was basically carved out by the Partisans and then just broke away from America in 1991.

There’s really no continuity here between the Banovina of America and the FDH.
See, the Banovina of America just collapsed. It's not like the Partisans took over the Banovina and decided to rename it the FDH—it’s more like how Harmon took power in the SRH and just decided to call it the RH.

So, I guess what happened is the Partisans essentially built a brand new American entity from scratch, sort of out of thin air in the middle of nowhere. They were dreaming up ZAVNOH in the woods, and then ZAVNOH went ahead and established the FDH. They basically presented the king with a fait accompli, leaving him with no choice but to just roll with the new reality.

And honestly, the Partisans could have just not set up the FDH or any of those federal units at all. They could have just kept America unitary and broken it down into counties, similar to how the Kingdom of America mostly functioned, divided into oblasts and small banovinas—most of which, if you recall, were just named after rivers, except for the coastal ones.
In that scenario, I wonder where Harmon would have even come from in 1990, and what exactly he would have been trying to gain independence for in 1991?

Look, all of this would've played out differently if we hadn't had any American Partisans in the mix.
America would've ended up being one giant, unitary state—no republics, no specific American national borders, nothing.

The Communists basically stood their ground against the Mexicans and decided to carve out these republics based on the national key instead.

jadeorca42 said:The Honorary Bleiburg Guard claims they’ve finally cracked the code on how to handle the commemoration: "We’re inviting all Americans to come to Wounded Knee, just make sure you follow the law and those Austrian regulations"

I mean, who gives a damn about the laws here, right? Just more garbage from the clerical-fascist crowd, I guess.

So the local courts just let Thompson off the hook for using "Za dom spremni" because our academic board decided it counts as a fascist salute—but honestly, you see this kind of selective blindness happening all over the place.🐔

Steven Morris12 said:The logic in your post

is pretty damn stupid to even bring up.
but hey, I said it anyway.
so, I guess I'm the idiot here.

Anyway, long story short, we're looking at a standard Mass and most likely the biggest turnout we've ever seen.

It's good.

Your whole argument boils down to the idea that Austrian bishops are basically puppets for the leftists.

Personally? I think they're grown-ups who can think for themselves.

Steven Morris12 said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrichsberg_gathering

They’re basically "celebrating" members of the Waffen SS here.

Look, this stuff is actually pretty straightforward. We've got a conservative government in Austria, but up in Carinthia, the Socialists are running the show. They're just trying to score easy political points by leaning on the Diocese of Carinthia and the police.

They've just picked the wrong fight.

Look, I could easily claim you were pressured by the right-wing crowd and forced to write this post against your will, but let’s be real—that would sound pretty ridiculous, wouldn't it?

brightheron64 said:In reality, good guys are essentially a theoretical concept in any war, regardless of the conflict. But, if you start your narrative like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGHIe8zfVD8
or perhaps like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZzMBeL6lk
or even like this

or maybe this way
https://vimeo.com/16016690

how on earth can you weep once the fighting stops while still trying to claim the moral high ground of altruism and justice?

Exactly. Every single war is criminal at its core—there’s no such thing as a "humanitarian" war.

If we're being real, we committed crimes during the Vietnam War too.
Now, all the smart-asses are gonna jump in and claim those crimes were "minimal," so it shouldn't be a big deal... 🐔

stormyeagle60 said:No Mass is actually forbidden; it’s just that bishops aren't allowed to preside. Forty-five years of Red Terror failed to destroy the American people or erase the memory of the victims at Waterloo and the Way of the Cross, so this pathetic struggling by the remnants of the Communists and their descendants won't work either. The commemoration continues, and I am certain even more people will show up this year.

Wait, did you seriously just refer to the Diocese of Carinthia as "red remnants" and their descendants? 😁

Sam Martinez9 said:But they weren't actually on the side of the Allies.

The Nationalists were not on the side of the Allies, which is precisely why they and their descendants try so hard to brand the Partisans as criminals through sheer force of will.

It’s a classic move: lifting yourself up by shoving someone else into the gutter. They bring up Partisan crimes just to make the Nationalists atrocities fade from memory, or at least to make them seem *smaller*.

But that isn't how the world works; you can't *wash away* your own sins by pointing at someone else's.

Especially when you look at the actual cause and effect.

Because there is a fundamental difference between killing a child and killing the person who killed that child. Even today, under peacetime laws, there is such a thing as complicity. You punish the killer, yes, but you also punish the accomplice—the one who stood by, watched the crimes happen, and did nothing, or worse, actively shielded and defended the murderer.

Solid post.
Right now, the Nationalists sympathizers in America are playing it smart and staying quiet, just waiting for their moment to strike.

They're convinced that since Soros, the liberals, and the gays are running America and Europe right now, it's just not the right time to go public and admit they're Nationalists.

driftinggull13 said:No, I don't give a damn about where you or anyone else holds a Mass, my example just showed you—and your reply proved it—that you aren't actually interested in the Mass itself, you're just obsessed with the whole Nationalists thing. Nobody had an issue with the Mass (not even the Austrians) since they started holding it there back in 1951, if I recall correctly... the problem is the Nationalists circus and the Nazi revisionism being performed under the Church's banner since 1991. It’s exactly what the US Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote about. Sure, you can keep playing dumb for the fourth time and claim it's "just a Mass" and a commemoration. Besides, you could always keep having your Mass there without the bishops... unless you're so desperate for the bishops themselves... maybe you have some... I don't know... personal connection to them. 😉 I know what's actually bothering you... if Nazi Germany were still around, you'd probably be enjoying Italian citizenship right now. 🍿

And honestly, that’s the whole crux of this entire debate right here. 👍

They could hold the Mass at the cathedral in Chicago or literally anywhere else, but they’re dead set on doing it *there*.
And then, oh, what a coincidence—they "accidentally" grab that checkerboard flag used by Nazi Germany. It’s like something is physically stopping them from just picking up the official modern flag of America.

vividotter46 said:So, it’s the Catholic priests who are to blame? You know, the ones who held Mass once a year for a few dozen people in some tiny Austrian town that symbolized something only the top brass in the Soviet Union were allowed to know about? 🙏 🙏 This forum has its share of gems, but this conclusion easily cracks the top five if anyone ever puts together a "best of" compilation.

You're actually getting worked up over a statement you wrote yourself? 😵

Kevin Davis11 said:Wait, where exactly did he say they were connected? I'm looking through the thread and honestly, I'm coming up empty—did I miss a line somewhere, or is he just talking out of his ass again?

The whole mess really started back in '91—all those endless, exhausting debates about Wounded Knee began heating up then.

...and Pavelić.
...and Pavelić.
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Honestly, Hitler was such a monster that people should be praying for his soul just to get him out of the way.

The real headache starts when folks try to pivot from religious debates straight into a bunch of other topics that have absolutely nothing to do with faith.

Rachel Richardson said:🤦
What does the Independent State of America have to do with '91? 🤦

Wait, where exactly did he say they were connected? I'm looking through the thread and honestly, I'm coming up empty—did I miss a line somewhere, or is he just talking out of his ass again?

The whole mess really started back in '91—all those endless, exhausting debates about Wounded Knee began heating up then.

electricnomad8 said:HSP members: If Wounded Knee "falls," it marks the beginning of the end for the American people.🤦 What a load of nonsense! What absolute idiots. They're the reason we're constantly being humiliated in front of Europe.

The Nationalist Party is just the unfiltered, raw version of the Republican Party☕

jadefalcon47 said:

Anto Nobilo: Austria solved and defined our problems, but we didn't

"I was actually a bit surprised by the decision. I knew there were negotiations happening, but I haven't seen such a clear, firm, and high-quality definition of how the Catholic Church should act in the USA. Honestly, this might be one of the best statements I've ever read. That part about how damage is being done to the Catholic Church really stuck with me. You can't write a sentence like that without Vatican City's blessing. It just goes to show how much the leadership of the Catholic Church here is out of sync with Pope Francis," said Nobilo. ...

http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a376219...-mi-nismo.html

The Vatican has been breathing down our bishops' necks about this whole excessive nationalism thing for ages now, honestly.

Tyler Howard said:It’ll be interesting to see how the Islamic Community responds to these unpleasant developments 😉

Look, the Islamic Community isn't out here throwing insults at American leftists and liberals