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Maria Robinson2 said:Once a living soul dies, it's just gone.
As for people fantasizing about becoming angels after they pass... I guess you should ask them why they're so desperate to play God—if not now, then eventually.
The soul just wants to break free from the body and all those material needs. I don't really buy into death either, because once that whole complex system of living particles stops working together, they just keep going on their own, forming new kinds of life... where do you even get the proof for that? And what about that old idea—that every soul becomes one with God once it reaches heaven?
Larry Moore83 said:It’s honestly quite baffling—how does it work that my body just decides to break down on its own, yet somehow refuses to fix itself? It’s like I’m stuck in this endless loop of wear and tear, despite all the sunshine and good intentions!
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just working on some spiritual healing for the body🥱
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Self-inflicted illness is basically when some street psychic tells you that you’re going to drop dead just because you didn't give them $3.25. And then—believe it or not—you actually get sick because you swallowed that nonsense whole. Then, a buddy of yours shows up at your hospital bedside with some shaman who spends half an hour banging on a drum and lighting incense. He also hands you a check to donate to the Red Cross $33. You pay it, and suddenly, you're cured.
New book: http://www.healthycow.com/readingroom/321/you-are-the-placebo
Joe Dispenza argues that we are our own placebo—that our thoughts, attitudes, beliefs, and perceptions actually shape our reality, and by extension, our physical health. He presents documented cases of people who fell ill or even passed away simply because they believed a—as it turned out—completely erroneous, fatal diagnosis. If our minds can be that powerful, why on earth wouldn't we harness them to heal ourselves and live better lives?
Dr. Dispenza points to numerous examples from his workshop participants who used the power of their minds to overcome cancer, heart disease, arthritis, depression, Parkinson’s, thyroid issues, MS, and more. Drawing from the latest research in quantum physics, neurology, psychology, biology, and hypnosis, Dr. Dispenza has developed a transformation model designed to help us trigger that placebo effect—the very thing his patients believed in, resulting in miraculous recoveries that are backed by actual science.
The book also includes instructions regarding ..........
It isn't in its infancy, it just has a massive amount of work left to do:
http://www.americanforum.com/showpost.php?p=4...&postcount=114
Is scientific progress more important, or spiritual elevation, or perhaps both happening in parallel.....
Scientific progress is a profession!
Spiritual elevation is a hobby.
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God, save me from self-healing via Benjamin Taylor6 😁. Dr. Joe Sim.... Dispenza is partly right, he’s got some truth in there... Good luck to anyone whose hobby becomes their job
Maria Robinson2 said:I wasn't referring to dead souls—more like living ones. You know, those people who take action during their lifetime, making deals among themselves before stepping onto the stage for their scheduled 'presentation,' just like that link implies.
Does that seem strange to you? I suppose it shouldn't. It’s really just about profiting off the superstitious.
there's no such thing as a ghost, especially after the body's gone
John Baker said:I'd say as long as people exist, this debate will too.
The issue with understanding our place in the cosmos lies with how we choose to view it. Those stuck in a purely rational, scientific mindset struggle, while those leaning into spirituality simply accept the explanations their faith provides. 🤷
If science and spirituality ever truly merged—if we reached a point where every spiritual phenomenon could be explained by a lab report—I think God would effectively cease to exist. But I doubt that’ll ever happen. No matter how much intellectual enlightenment we achieve, the belief in God remains constant.
Does that mean science is still in its infancy and lagging way behind spirituality? Personally, I feel like once science really levels up, we might actually be able to grasp the divine. Not trying to claim I know everything though...
darkraven said:So, here’s the million-dollar question: Is it actually worth the mental gymnastics to dig deep, research, and try to wrap your head around how things work, or should we all just throw our hands up, embrace being clueless, and label everything "supernatural" just to get some peace and quiet? I mean, honestly, look at how much energy people waste. I was reading this thing the other day—don't ask me which one, my browser tabs look like a digital junkyard—and it got me thinking about how much easier life would be if we just collectively decided to stop asking "why." Just shrug, call it magic, and go grab a burger. Done. Problem solved, right? But then there's that other side. That itch in your brain that won't shut up until you figure out the mechanics of the universe. It’s exhausting, sure. It’s like trying to fix a leaky faucet when you don't even know what a wrench looks like. But there's something almost primal about wanting to peel back the curtain. Is ignorance bliss, or is it just lazy? Personally, I think calling everything "mystical" is the ultimate cop-out. It's the intellectual equivalent of hitting a wall and deciding the wall is actually an invisible ghost so you don't have to admit you walked into it. We could be out here solving the big stuff, but instead, we settle for "it's just a miracle." Give me a break. I'm torn, though. Part of me wants to dive into the rabbit hole, and the other part of me just wants to sit on my porch with a cold beer and not care about the fabric of reality for five minutes. What do you guys think? Are we investigators or are we just comfortably blind?
Are you actually asking me that? I’m only asking because your post is a total mess—it's hard to follow what you're even getting at. Honestly, both ways you wrote it make sense, and the grammar isn't even broken, but it's just... unclear. Like, pick a lane, man.
Look, my take on this is pretty straightforward: science is exactly what’s driving us forward as a species. It's the engine behind almost everything we consider "progress." If you’re more interested in clinging to those other outdated theories, then honestly, go ahead—just head straight back to the dark ages. Go live in that ignorant, pre-scientific era where people thought lightning was a divine curse instead of physics. You can't argue with actual advancement. 🤷
You and him are basically speaking two different languages at this point. He’s over there obsessing about the resurrection of the physical body—honestly, I have no clue where he even gets the idea that spirituality is supposed to be rooted in something so material—while you’re actually making sense by talking about the law of conservation of energy. It's like night and day.
It’s hard for me to put my thoughts together since I'm not exactly a grammar expert. Personally, I don't think "supernatural" even exists—it's more like we just haven't fully understood or accepted nature yet. Science is how we advance our understanding of what nature offers, but I also feel like spiritual growth is vital so we don't misuse that knowledge. Honestly, I think science alone could end up putting us in an even tougher spot than when empirical science first showed up... I don't believe in resurrecting physical bodies; it seems unnecessary, and bringing the dead back to life isn't really worth it for humanity. It might matter to the individual involved, or even those inexplicable healings, but eventually, there's still an end for the healed and the resurrected alike. To me, the first true miracle was life itself, created from tiny energetic particles traveling through nature to create all the beauty on our amazing planet...
silentviper19 said:Now, biology tells us pretty clearly that once someone passes away, that’s it—game over, no coming back. But if you look back about 2,000 years, there was this one guy who actually came back to life. And it wasn't just him, either; you've got Lazarus and so many others who were basically brought back by the sheer joy of witnessing that first miracle.
Where's the "harmony" in all that? We build our whole sense of spirituality on the idea that miracles are totally possible, yet science sits there insisting they aren't. It feels like a massive contradiction to me.
You just don't get modern science or spirituality... Biology says the energy we use to live eventually flows back into nature to fuel more life... I think physics says the same thing too...
Ryan Wilson2 said:This isn't some divine miracle; these are wonders crafted directly by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And as for you unbelievers, you’ll find yourselves burning in a hell devoid of spaghetti and meatballs. Though, who can say? Perhaps Jesus will descend and you can turn Him into a pasta sauce... I mean, isn't that what you're already doing at every Mass anyway?
So you actually believe in miracles!!! Man, I don't, and honestly, it's weighing on me. You swapped Jesus for Christ 🤔, and he's what feeds everything. Pure intellect-driven energy. What do you think?...
gentlesailor25 said:But why does everything have to make sense, anyway?😬 That’s kind of where these whole ideas about miracles come from, I guess—it's just that deep-seated human urge to find a reason for everything, to believe there's some grand design behind it all.
And what if he just got healed and then died... without any special reason at all?🤷
A lot of people find that idea pretty hard to swallow, but lately, I'm starting to feel like that might be exactly how it works.🤷
Exactly! I'd say that rush and impatience is really just a craving for absolute certainty that we probably can't even reach... Miracles interest me because my theist buddies are always hunting for them as "proof" of God, but if they want to see actual magic, they should just look at the wonder of being human or the sheer magic of the universe. It's all so incredibly complex, with so many tiny, delicate details making these systems alive and meaningful. Those rare, unexplainable things in nature are actually just... natural...
Larry Moore83 said:It's essentially the polar opposite of self-healing.
You're very welcome.
Thanks for the deep dive, man!
Larry Moore83 said:Self-healing isn't any more bizarre than the idea of choosing to be sick, is it?
And honestly—I don’t quite grasp the whole concept of miracles at all. 😁
Hey man, can someone break down what this "making yourself sick" thing actually means? Thanks!
Lawrence Torres56 said:Look, as a person, you rarely encounter something this truly "miraculous" within your own family or even your immediate circle. It’s honestly hard to wrap your head around the idea that these kinds of miracles actually happen, but once you witness one with your own two eyes? Man, all that so-called "science" starts looking pretty ridiculous. All those endless ramblings and repetitive mantras about things they don't actually care about scientifically—not that they even understand half of what they're talking about—but hey, it’s important to them to keep their mouths moving just so they can pretend to be the smartest people in the room, right? And let's not forget that this whole version of "science" is totally subjective; depending on whoever is standing behind the podium, they’ll either hail these wonders as breakthroughs or spit on them in an instant...
I'm right there with you, colleague. These so-called scientists can spin the same event in a dozen different ways, sneaking their own biases into any part of the story that isn't fully explained yet. Like, take an atheist who suddenly recovers from a terminal illness—would they see it as a gift from God, only to die in a car accident shortly after? Was the healing meant to lead them to God's love before they passed, or was the sudden death some kind of punishment for a sin? Honestly, stuff like that just leaves me totally lost...
electrictinker26 said:It really depends on how you define a miracle. You could see it as something extraordinary when everyone is healthy, or perhaps it’s a miracle when people fall ill because health is usually the standard. It all comes down to the narrative you construct in your own mind. A miracle is entirely subjective—it's defined by the perspective of the person searching for one. Someone struggling financially who wins the Powerball might view it as a divine intervention. On the other hand, someone worth billions winning the lottery probably wouldn't see much magic in it; they’d likely just view it as a mathematical anomaly rather than a profound miracle. Similarly, if someone suffering from a chronic illness suddenly recovers, they see it as a massive miracle. Personally, I view recovery as a gift from God. To me, it feels like karma being lifted or simply being restored to a state of normalcy. When you look at the sheer number of people suffering from illness globally, you realize what a massive blessing a recovery truly is. Anyone who has dealt with sickness knows the feeling of being unable to function normally. I remember back when I was younger, I went through a period of intense pain. In those moments, nothing else mattered except getting better. Nothing had any meaning except finding relief. Once I finally recovered, thank God, I felt like a completely different person. I never want to go through that again; it truly felt like being born anew and being given a second chance at life.
Personally, I don't think we even need to use the word "miracle," especially for believers. Your phrase, "God's grace," sounds much more beautiful. It’s like how a wealthy person winning the lottery feels just as much like a blessing as a recovery for someone who's healthy...
People always credit God or divine grace for all these healings—both the real ones and the ones that might just be luck. Believers see these rare, unexplainable moments as a sign from above, a way to show we aren't alone... Even though I call myself a believer, I don't really go looking for miracles or buy into the hype, but hey, unexplained things happen, and eventually science catches up to what we can't wrap our heads around today. It makes you wonder, though—if someone hits the jackpot on a Powerball ticket, shouldn't we call that a miracle too? And if we did, would everyone just start betting their lives away thinking it's the cure for poverty? How long is it going to take us to actually figure out where we fit in this universe? Is it more important to push scientific boundaries, or focus on spiritual growth, or maybe find a way to do both at the exact same time...
rapidbear65 said:Man, if I could just bring some order back to this PDF religion. Ever since I got kicked out, things have been going downhill fast—and I used to be the king of this board. Needs a little shake-up, just the way I do it... Plus, gotta find my wife at the picnic. Maybe someone took advantage while she wasn't looking? You don't get second chances like this...
Hey everyone! Thanks for taking the time to look over my moral proposal, even if it was a long and draining debate. After thinking it over, I’ve decided to officially withdraw it. Honestly, it would have only benefited you guys anyway. Take care!
I really need to get this subreddit back on track if I can. Ever since I got banned, the quality here has just been tanking, and honestly, I used to be the MVP of this board. It needs a serious shake-up, the kind only I can pull off. Plus, I gotta go find my wife at the cookout. Someone probably took advantage while she wasn't looking... you won't get a second chance
Sarah Nguyen96 said:I just need to get this off my chest.
Honestly, I’m struggling with the feeling that I just have zero luck in life.
I always dream about hitting it big on a lottery ticket. I played for a couple of months, but I eventually quit because I actually save more money when I don't play. Then I tried poker for two days. No luck there either, so I stopped. I even gave roulette a shot a few times with some small change, but nothing happened. Even when it comes to romance, it's a total bust, despite a few brief flings here and there.
The only thing I have going for me is my job, but I really don't want to spend my entire life working for someone else. Why does the universe feel like it's against me? What am I supposed to do?
Look, if you see the potential for luck and just focus on two people, you aren't searching for it... your luck is just waiting for you to show up.....
Even in Christianity, they celebrate the birth of God...
Kimberly Barrett3 said:Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union
Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍
Let's hear your thoughts!
In the middle of this catastrophe, RS declares its day of mourning (more days and years are coming) and an hour later, F BIH does too—on the exact same day!!! What kind of shared country is that?? Sure, maybe, but without Americans, BiH is gone... good luck with that.