I’m not sure if these delays are because of shifting from age 6 to 7, or moving from 7 to 8. If it’s the former, I get it completely—though I can find some common ground with the latter too.
As far as I'm concerned, my kid isn't starting school at 6 (thankfully they were born in August, so I won't have to fight this battle), because there is absolutely no reason to rush.
It isn't about a lack of independence or capability; I simply see no point in the hurry. We aren't all retiring by 65 or even 67. There is plenty of time to get work done. Even if they start at 7, they'll have more than enough time to finish school, go to college if they want, get a career, and do their part.
If some teacher doesn't have enough students to fill a classroom, they can surely find another job in the market that fits their skills and education. My child is not going to be used just to fill up someone's teaching hours.
and you run the risk of some John Doe or a parent calling for an inspection. And honestly, they’d be within their rights to call. Imagine a kid who has spent all week studying, ready to tackle this exam today, only to have it pushed back because the schedule wasn't followed. It’s a violation of the rules. When students prepare themselves mentally for a specific moment, they can't just have that obligation shifted onto them later amidst a mountain of other schoolwork. An exam scheduled by the district calendar isn't something you can just cancel or postpone on a whim unless you follow the official protocol.
Are any of my fellow FBI colleagues actually familiar with the regulations?
Because once an inspector shows up, the FBI will make sure to distance themselves from you in a heartbeat. In fact, before the inspector even arrives, they'll likely be breathing down your neck for bringing heat onto the school.
you call over a colleague to step in for you, basically asking them to keep an eye on the kids while you sort things out with a student.
By Telephone? Or via telepathy? While they are busy teaching their own classes? Am I supposed to leave a room full of tests, walk out of the classroom to find a colleague to supervise, and then come back?
It’s so clear you don't have a clue how this works, and you're doing a wonderful job confirming why people think the FBI just lives in a world of theory.
That’s usually how I handle it, too. I just stand there with the exams and won't budge until the environment is right for testing. And I'm constantly checking my watch or the clock on the wall.
I was just trying to paint a picture of the risk involved. If the students don't settle down and we don't start at a reasonable time, you're looking at complaints from parents who feel their child's precious study time was wasted. Personally, I don't want to deal with the wrath of John Does or angry parents.
I’m not looking for friendship with you either, but unfortunately, we're stuck with one another. Our kids are caught in the middle, forced to deal with your "education"—which is really just you wasting their time. You, acting as a loyal servant to a broken system, and me, just trying to be a parent—we're both victims of the same machine. The difference? I'm not forced to defend it just to survive. We end up on opposite sides because you people insist on defending the indefensible.
Sarah Hall53 said:Look, I don't usually bother replying to you, but I really feel like I have to jump in here. Under the Labor Code, Section 205 (1)—
Labor unions have the authority to call for and carry out strikes to protect and promote the economic and social interests of their members—including cases where wages, partial wages, or wage reimbursements aren't paid by the due date.
So, basically, a strike can only happen for those specific reasons.
What you're talking about isn't actually a strike—it’s a work stoppage, which is covered under Section 95 (4) of the CIA regulations.
And honestly, what that guy is talking about—"striking over reforms"—is basically a one-way ticket to being blacklisted by the unemployment office, because that is completely illegal.
This has nothing to do with labor law; it's an issue for the Occupational Safety and Health Act.
Sarah Hall53 said:Exactly, that's pretty much how it goes. Man, even with the paychecks they get—which, let's face it, aren't great—people can hardly afford to strike because they're stuck wondering, "Wait, who's going to watch the kids while we're out protesting?" That's why strikes always seem to fizzle out. It's not that people aren't tough enough to handle losing a day's pay (that hasn't really been an issue since the 90s), it's just that they genuinely care about the students. And those are the same parents whose opinions actually matter. ☕
As for the law itself? Yeah, it absolutely needs to change. But until someone actually fixes it, the only legal way to walk off the job is to strike over pay and benefits.
Everyone has the legal right to refuse work if their health or life is on the line.
When teachers are flawless and the entire school system is working perfectly, it’s just a shame we have students and parents around to ruin everything...
Jason Morgan said:My actual goal was just to tell her she’s clueless and that her feet stink, honestly. I really don't see the point in wasting my breath trying to argue against statements like that.
Naturally, based on the arguments presented, we're dealing with the eloquence, education, and expertise of a teacher at Veeam.
Or maybe someone who spends way too much time around kids and has gone soft?
brightheron64 said:In my household (as of right now), it’s a clean sweep—5 to 0 in favor of atheism. 😁
School hasn't been much of an issue, though we did have a bit of wandering through the hallways in those early years, but everything eventually smoothed out, especially since the religious education classes seemed to lose steam more and more with every passing school year...
And even today, my daughter-in-law is constantly breathing down my neck about it (even though her own daughter has explicitly declared herself an atheist). She tries here and there, attempting to plant seeds of doubt with little anecdotes or trying to nudge them toward "re-evaluating their stances," but those naughty little atheists just 🙄 and 😵
We've actually had some pretty heated arguments over the kids' births, including actual "threats" along the lines of, "I'll just sneak them into a church and get them baptized behind your backs!"... And all we can do is just 🤣🤣🤣
Grandma and Grandpa are always the biggest headache when it comes to this stuff. They exert the most pressure, and I don't mean the older generation (the 55-60 crowd). Once you hit that age, the drive to push back tends to fade.
Interesting topic. You've got 90% of students enrolling in religious studies, yet here we are, where the concentration of non-believers is at least 70%.
hiddendriver34 said:Hmm, so we base it on the fact that they went to college for this and it's literally their profession? Like, assuming they actually know how to do the job?
Honestly, I'm just done arguing with people who hold the view that teachers are just random idiots off the street who can ONLY do something right if someone watches over their shoulder like a nervous apprentice.
And could you please walk me through what you mean by "getting defensive" about external evaluations? Who exactly is getting defensive?🤔 As far as I can tell, most teachers actually push for external testing—like the SATs or state exams—mostly because it takes some of the weight of a student's entire future off their shoulders.
The only thing you can actually assume is that they finished some college program. Based on what we saw today, nobody asks for actual skill—they just want to see the credentials.
hiddendriver34 said:Hmm, so we base it on the fact that they went to college for this and it's literally their profession? Like, assuming they actually know how to do the job?
Honestly, I'm just done arguing with people who hold the view that teachers are just random idiots off the street who can ONLY do something right if someone watches over their shoulder like a nervous apprentice.
And could you please walk me through what you mean by "getting defensive" about external evaluations? Who exactly is getting defensive?🤔 As far as I can tell, most teachers actually push for external testing—like the SATs or state exams—mostly because it takes some of the weight of a student's entire future off their shoulders.
They aren't "off the street," but let's be honest: most of them are mediocre at best. Half of them probably had no clue what they wanted to do when they applied to university, so they just picked education as a way to coast through their studies and their careers.
hiddendriver34 said:Hmm, so we base it on the fact that they went to college for this and it's literally their profession? Like, assuming they actually know how to do the job?
Honestly, I'm just done arguing with people who hold the view that teachers are just random idiots off the street who can ONLY do something right if someone watches over their shoulder like a nervous apprentice.
And could you please walk me through what you mean by "getting defensive" about external evaluations? Who exactly is getting defensive?🤔 As far as I can tell, most teachers actually push for external testing—like the SATs or state exams—mostly because it takes some of the weight of a student's entire future off their shoulders.
Exactly. It shifts the responsibility. That’s the whole point of the American school system: making sure the teacher isn't held accountable for anything. The fact that the entire system is a self-serving loop that achieves nothing is irrelevant to them.
An energy efficiency certificate has absolutely nothing to do with that meter in the bathroom. There’s zero reason to bring it up here. It has nothing to do with whether the wiring is up to code.
Maybe it’s just easier to relocate the meter now. It shouldn't break the bank, and it'll definitely cost less than having your gas service cut off and then getting hit with those reconnection fees. Just find a licensed gas technician.
To even qualify as "idiots," you’d actually need to be experts in at least one thing.
Our kids are doing way worse than those idiots—they can't even get basic geography right about Kazakhstan, they're clueless on the history of the Crusades, or how ferns reproduce...
Of course you’re thriving. You’d be doing just fine here if someone suddenly teleported you from junior year back to middle school.
My neighbor moved to Ireland when he was in 7th grade. Over there, based on his age, he was automatically placed into their equivalent of freshman year of high school. If he had decided to come back to the States, he would have been forced to redo 8th grade. He ended up becoming one of their top students—whereas here, he was just mediocre, barely scraping by with Cs—simply because he had already mastered all that material by 7th grade.
So, the logical conclusion is that young Irish people are totally dim-witted while we're geniuses, since they don't even touch the stuff we finish by 6th grade until they hit high school. I'm also certain any American could absolutely smoke an Irishman in a game of Chase.
It’s just a shame that no employer actually cares if you can sing Smail aga Čengić or if you know who Raskolnikov is. Instead, these lowlifes just demand actual, practical job skills.
urbantinker8 said:Well, we definitely covered them in first grade. Cursive was more like a third-grade thing.
I feel like this whole curriculum adjustment thing has swung way too far in one direction. It’s almost like we’re treating kids as if they’re all below average when it comes to capability. And I suppose everyone just shrugs their shoulders and accepts it because... well, it's the path of least resistance, I guess. It feels easier to teach less and go slower rather than teaching more at a faster pace, regardless of how difficult or necessary the material actually is. It isn't going to lead to actual reading comprehension, goodness knows. If anything, it might do the opposite. We'll likely end up with third graders who can recognize printed letters but still struggle immensely with handwriting, and their fine motor skills will probably suffer too. Instead of moving forward, they'll spend most of third or maybe even fourth grade just trying to patch up the gaps from what they should have mastered back in first.
It will produce the perfect result for an educational system like this. Everyone will pull a 4.0 without much effort, enrolling in whatever colleges they want based on high GPAs—not that anyone actually cares about what they know. The real-world importance of certain subjects is being ignored. 90% of what matters is being tossed aside, while useless trivia is treated as equal to essential skills. It doesn't matter if these future adults know nothing about credit, or if the concept of interest rates remains a mystery, or if they can't calculate their own total loan repayments. What matters is that they can calculate the 7th root of 228 from memory, or know the GDP of Kazakhstan. They don't need to know how to calculate a paycheck; they just need to list every territory conquered by Napoleon. They don't need to understand police authority; they just need to know who invented the steam engine. They won't even know how to change a lightbulb or turn on a water heater.
Nicholas King said:Paranoia is quite the fascinating ailment—it doesn't cause any physical pain, yet suddenly everything becomes crystal clear.
Was there an actual public bidding process for the supplier, or was the vendor perhaps handpicked during some clandestine meeting over charred burgers? Has anyone—anyone at all—written, said, or even considered that this contract favored Joe instead of Bernard?
It is indescribably irritating, this hairdresser-style rhetoric from above oh, you know just spitting on everything and everyone and labeling absolutely everybody a thief—except, I suppose, for oneself.
Do you honestly believe that someone just happened to have 8,000 unsellable tablets sitting in their garage and then called up and said, hey, Blaze, hey, listen, let me unload this junk on you, hey, if you catch my drift, wink wink?
If those steaks were carbonized, it’s no wonder the tablets turned out like this.