Posts by Kyle Lopez2

James Harris34 said:And we're talking about the same Massa that Bottas absolutely demolished...

What kind of conclusion are we supposed to draw here? If we're saying Massa is on par with Kimi Räikkönen and Lewis Hamilton, yet Bottas is eating him alive... 🤔

Well, obviously Mercedes is sabotaging Bottas because he’d end up eating Lewis Hamilton for breakfast too.🤣 Honestly, you're forcing a conclusion by trying to compare the 2018 version of Felipe Massa to how he was back in 2008.🤦

ruggedhawk20 said:Mmmmmm... you definitely sound like someone who remembers the sixties.

Where were you in the sixties?

My x-th reincarnation was basically a high-speed NASCAR crash; all I can recall is some idiot clipping my rear tire and sending me hurtling toward the grandstands. Beyond that, everything is just a blur.🤔 Who knows what actually went down 😵

shadowmarlin22 said:Personally, I'd put Clark and Senna in my top five—but they aren't number one for me. Whatever.

It isn't really about who he was; it’s more about your comment suggesting you're docking Senna points just because he died.🤔
Look, if you're saying seven titles are better than three, fine, but you didn't frame it that way—you phrased it like a sarcastic jab or like someone who doesn't get it, implying this other guy is superior simply because he never hit a wall. 😵 And then you claim Hamilton wouldn't have crashed if he were driving back in the old days.

Younger Hamilton was a total daredevil, honestly; he used to throw cars around with people like it was nothing, not to mention those times he went off track. I won't even bring up the tire failures or when his brakes gave out at Hockenheim. Just look at that crash with Max in Silverstone where they both could have been killed because Hamilton's tire blew, the car started fishtailing, and then—boom—he went into a violent spin over the curb.

There’s that one quote from the old champions—I think it was Hill—when he was asked how a kid in a slower car could be faster than him in qualifying. He basically replied that he didn't think the kid would last long, and sure enough, the kid ended up losing his life in the following races. He wasn't talking about aggressive racing styles; he was just describing the raw speed he saw during qualifying. Back then, having a ten-year career meant driving with extreme caution, yet they still had several massive wrecks where they took heavy hits.

Man, imagine trying to drive a car with tires as thin as a bicycle's—like an old Yugo—doing 186 miles high speeds and needing to brake. Imagine chasing a Yugo at 100 mph and having to slow down for a corner; if you lock up just a little, the damn thing starts sliding and you're just a passenger. You'd have to drive on foot to survive ten years like that. 😵 You guys are being unrealistic.☕

ruggedhawk20 said:What, were you around in the sixties or something?!

That crash happened because of a mistake by Amanda Kelly. And honestly, that wreck is exactly why she became so low-key throughout her career. You know, how those clueless reporters and historians love to spin it as being some "quiet, reserved kid."

"Quiet and reserved"—yeah, right. I've had plenty of women tell me she was a total little rebel!

But yeah, ever since that collision with Von Tripp, she’s kept a super low profile around the track and the paddock.

Unless I get a computer implanted in my brain, I guess I'll just have to rely on my memory.🤣

I watched the footage one more time.🤔 It was Von Tripp's rear tire hitting Amanda Kelly's front end. Amanda held the inside line toward the grandstands where they hit, while Von Tripp was on the outside.

If Amanda’s turn into Von Tripp had caused the crash, Von Tripp wouldn't have flown into the stands; he would have just spun out or started rolling over his roof. There's no way Amanda's move during a right-hand turn on the straight would have sent both her and Von Tripp flying all the way to the left. 🤔 🤔

It just doesn't add up. Von Tripp had to steer into Amanda, which is why he slammed vertically into the grandstand while she ended up in the runoff area next to the stands.

James Harris34 said:I mean, if you look at someone like Vettel, he was hardly a half-baked driver himself, but if Bottas had been paired with guys like Webber, Massa, or Barrichello, he’d probably be sitting on four championships by now.

And honestly, if it hadn't been for that whole Briatore scandal, Massa might have snatched the title right out from under those aliens Hamilton and Raikkonen.☕

shadowmarlin22 said:Exactly. In this sport, the primary goal is just staying alive—everything else is secondary. That’s why Fangio and Lewis hold such weight—though Lewis eventually overtook Schumacher in that regard.
Fangio’s percentages are incredible—pole positions, win rates, titles—but Lewis’s raw numbers are just staggering.
Sure, names like Clark, Schumacher, or Senna make a case, but there are massive holes in those arguments. The fact that you had to survive being on the grid with Senna or Clark is the biggest hole of all—tragic, but true.
In my view, Max will likely be categorized more as one of the fastest single-lap drivers rather than the greatest overall. Senna is almost certainly the fastest, followed by Lewis, then Clark, Fangio, and Schumacher—the five quickest to ever do it.

🤦 Back in Senna's era, survival wasn't even really the primary goal of the sport, let alone today. If Lewis drove with the same style as Fangio, he'd be running five or six seconds off his current best times.

🤦 Sure, you could argue that because someone passed away, we can't fully know their peak performance or longevity, but that doesn't make them the best. He was gone after ten seasons with three titles and three runner-up finishes. I'm interpreting what you said as "if he had survived, he would have been one of the top five all-time," but since he didn't, he isn't—and honestly, that feels like a bit of a logical stretch to me.🤦

ruggedhawk20 said:You aren't paying attention, kid.

I’m not talking about Hockenheim in '68—I’m talking about Monza in '61, where a driving error caused another driver's death. Wolfgang von Trips.

Plus about 15 spectators at the end of the track too.

Senna basically killed himself. This guy carries sixteen people on his soul.

There's zero discussion—those numbers don't make him the GOAT.

That category you're bringing up feels pretty irrelevant to me.🤔 So what? Anyone stepping into a car has to accept the risks they create, just like the fans who choose to sit right in the middle of all that action.

Plus, if I remember correctly, it was Trips who hit Clark, not the other way around.🤔

bluepuma9 said:Look, I’ve rewatched that clip a dozen times. I’m not looking to point fingers at anyone specifically, but it was obvious to me there was no intent to hit. It just happened—high speed, tight space, end of story.

Max intentionally lunged into that turn to squeeze Lewis out. He forced the contact on purpose because a double DNF works perfectly for his strategy.

When you head into a turn, you're almost perfectly lined up with Max, BUT that corner is being taken at absolute full throttle. 🍿 It's tight. Max can stay pinned on the outside if you weren't there, but since you are, he has to lift off while you're stuck having to brake.🤔

Just think about how much space you actually get entering that turn compared to Max when you're braking and he isn't.🤔

If you don't believe me, just look at what would have happened to Leclerc if he hadn't lifted and spun out; look at where Hamilton ended up in front and where Leclerc would have been trailing behind.

And here's the big question: how long has this guy been racing? How many technical analyses has he done regarding track limits and experience? When you factor in that contact in that specific corner—where a front-to-rear wheel clip means a 100% DNF for Max and maybe only a 30% chance for Hamilton—we're talking a massive swing in probability.😈

It’s not like Hamilton is some rookie who didn't see that coming.😵

It’s the same thing as when you’re driving a high-performance car through qualifying and a race—you go through 15 turns and 70 laps, totaling over a thousand turns in a weekend without hitting a single bit of understeer, only to have it catch you right when you least expect it, like when Rosberg caught that damn understeer on the outside and clipped him.🤣🤣 And it's always the same deal: when things get intense, the line gets wide, 🤣 and then the analysts try to sell us these theories like we're idiots.😵

Jason Campbell70 said:Give me a shout once you've cooled off from whatever happened during today's race.
I have no intention of engaging with such primitive outbursts.
Thanks.

There isn't much to say, honestly. I’ve read through your descriptions of those incidents, and at the very least 🤦

At least you aren't on the same level as that crowd in the UK who were blaming Albon just because Lewis had the racing line, even though he got hit right on the rear wheel.☕

Jason Campbell70 said:A perfect summary of how Verstappen has been driving all season.
Never give an opponent an inch, push right past the limit, and if they don't budge? Then it's a 51g impact into the wall followed by accusations of attempted murder.

Don't play it too smart. Eventually, that attitude is going to come back to haunt him. Maybe even this season.

Come on, don't talk nonsense. Hamilton dove right into the back of Max's car at the apex of the turn, and he even missed the corner entirely. How is that an overtake?😵🤣

If Leclerc hadn't stayed on the gas and drifted wide, he would have ended up with Hamilton’s front tire wedged into his rear end. Don't give me that. You go into a corner where you're supposed to be flat out, but you have to brake to hit your entry angle, and now you're calling that an overtake? 🤦

Regarding Monza, the whole point was that Hamilton should have pushed Verstappen out in Turn 1 instead of leaving enough space for half a car and then trying to shove him in Turn 2. Either close the door or leave the space open, but don't play half-hearted defense and then try to muscle someone when you've already lost the line.

And as for his driving style... the last time Hamilton actually had to defend a championship lead against an overtake, it was against Rosberg in Nice, and he did a lion's share of shoving him out of the way there.

Bahrain '14
Canada '14 (last lap, which Brundle called "lingering on the racing line")
Japan '15 (just spinning the wheel)
USA '15 (deliberate contact)
Canada '16
Monaco '16—when he shoved Ricciardo into the wall. Brundle actually contradicted himself on that one; he defended the move when the championship was on the line, even though a year earlier in a documentary with Hamilton, he looked him right in the eye and asked if he really pushed him into the wall during those career highlights.🙂

The only driver he ever had a clean fight with was Vettel, mostly because Vettel never tries to pass from the outside against someone notorious for shoving people off the track—though maybe I'm just remembering that wrong. So let's not pretend; Hamilton is one of the most aggressive drivers on the grid, and everything Max is doing is just a reaction to what Hamilton does when he's leading the championship against a rival.😵

Drew Bennett68 said:Rebecca is going to be out there waving the flag.😁

Who???

Jacob Castillo70 said:Mercedes is absolutely flying on the straights.

Things are looking pretty grim for Red Bull as they head into their upcoming stretch of races across the Middle East.

It’s worth noting that Mexico also had plenty of straightaways; it really just comes down to the pace and a few other variables.

It’s just because I’m Black 😢😢😢😢

If we hadn't sat through those Ham Ros duels where Ham was just repeating the same old nonsense and everyone tried to justify it 😁

I honestly don't get why they messed him up so badly; it would have been much smarter to just hold off until the 50-lap mark, grab the hards, and then make their move 🤔

So, looks like Lewis is on yellows for about 10 laps before he starts making his move.

Elizabeth Mendoza said:I missed what Lewis Hamilton was saying on the radio because I was stuck in the restroom, so I only caught the very end of it.

There’s definitely one more pit stop left, which means Red Bull Racing is going to have to find a way to overtake.

Jason Campbell70 said:Hamilton's performance today is on par with Schumacher back in 2006 at this very same track.
There’s motivation here, pure skill, and deep experience.
Let's just enjoy the ride.

It's more like pushing the engine straight to the redline.

Jacob Castillo70 said:I disagree; Mercedes isn't making any excuses here. In fact, they didn't even file an appeal against the FIA's decision.

The chatter over on Sky was that Merc might try to claim Max contaminated the evidence.🤣🤣

But honestly, what else is there to complain about? The specs say 85mm, and when you put a ruler up against the Mercedes, it’s clearly over 85.🤔 There's really no point in arguing when the facts are right there in front of you.☕

Jack Kelly5 said:Honestly, that feels like a total cop-out. Like, oh, they just "accidentally" messed up the aero? And then they actually tried to claim Max just broke the wing with his finger or something—that whole column was pure fiction, believe it or not.
I mean, what do you think would happen if they caught an Alfa or a Haas doing something similar? They'd be dragging it out forever and listening to those endless excuses. Think about it.

That’s exactly my point. It’s just ridiculous. You throw the whole grid into chaos and then act like, "Oops, our bad, just a little mistake." It's a joke.

Look at it this way. Who would actually cheat in a way that they’d fail a standard physical test conducted every few races at high-speed tracks? 🤔

It’s like building a car that’s 10cm too wide and then acting surprised when you get a DQ the second a steward pulls out a measuring tape. 🤣

If you’re going to cheat, you do it where it’s hard to see—the stuff that requires specialized testing to uncover. Not like this. This is why Red Bull needs to insist on a full inspection of the wing mechanism to see if this happened at other tracks too. Because if they find a genuine irregularity there, Mercedes could end up facing a DQ for multiple past races due to an illegal wing.