The landscape is shifting, though I’d argue it’s primarily the negative elements that are evolving rather than the positive ones. My concern lies in whether the good qualities within the Ultras have undergone a similar transformation, because that is where the real issue resides.
I can't help but feel that the changes were necessary; in fact, they were probably for the best. That said, I truly believe the secretary did a more than respectable job regarding the supporters. You have to take your hat off to him, honestly. I highly doubt you could find anyone within the Ultras—and I mean on a much broader scale—who would show up to every single damn game, clinging to the railings and pushing themselves that hard to keep the spirit alive. He certainly had his flaws, but they weren't significant enough to warrant being ousted from that position.
If things continue on this current trajectory, the entire supporter culture is going to collapse. It’s a fundamental truth that you can't have a functional movement without a central leadership—someone to steer the ship—and frankly, there isn't a single organized ultras scene left in Europe that operates without a clear leader at the helm.
When it comes to the other segments, there is clearly a vast amount of room for improvement, and we’ll just have to wait and see how the team handles the responsibilities they've taken on. Let's give them some time to work through it.
There was far too little effort put into fostering actual cohesion between the teams; everyone was simply too preoccupied with their own individual tasks, which, as Jessica Long8 noted, ultimately weakened our collective strength. group Solidarity is everything.
I only have one thing I want to point out here. I’m not sure how many of you actually attended the match against the Lakers, but even their coach remarked on it after the whistle blew; he noted that he had never witnessed such a profound synergy between the crowd and the players. For sixty minutes straight, the flares were lit, the energy in the stands was electric, and the entire stadium seemed to vibrate in unison—whenever the players pushed, the fans responded, and whenever they scored, the atmosphere reached a fever pitch. That is exactly why we are here, and that is why we cheer. Fans exist to lift the club up; if we forget that and start treating our own presence as an end in itself, we will burn out before we know it. Yesterday, however, the atmosphere at the arena felt entirely different, almost hollow, lacking that vital connection between the squad and the supporters. We would all do well to remember that.
Everyone needs to dial back this mindless euphoria; it’s getting a bit ridiculous.
Two points here:
1) We need to focus on building the group, fostering actual unity, and introducing some fresh energy into the collective.
2) We have to capitalize on the current buzz surrounding the NFL Ultras and the club’s momentum—specifically the hype around our young talent. A few thousand season tickets just moved, which is great, but we need to recruit from that crowd. We should be turning those fans into true supporters by instilling a specific mindset: that following the Kansas City Chiefs is a year-round commitment. It should feel completely natural to have 10,000 people packed into the stadium in the dead of winter just to watch our homegrown kids mature into pros.
If every local neighborhood crew brought the kind of energy Mertojak displayed during the NFL Ultras Cup and carried that intensity over to the north stands at the Stadium,
we wouldn't need to look toward Argentina or anywhere else for inspiration. We’d have the most intimidating section in all of Europe without needing to import a single soul from abroad.
A guy like Mertojak is living proof that it's possible; you just have to demand more from the other neighborhood groups during the NFL Ultras Cup and make sure they bring that same spirit home to the Stadium.
The high society crowd seems a bit depressed lately. Someone really needs to go spread some positivity among them, because their golden boy is currently packing his bags and heading for the exit like he's leaving the Dallas Cowboys. A little optimism wouldn't hurt.😍
hiddenowl said:Here’s a report in Russian—though most of you have likely already come across it. It sounds fairly objective, if that word even carries any weight in the world of ultras. Then again, I realize everyone has their own version of the truth, but by this account, they were quite hospitable to you all once more..
This is nothing short of proof regarding just how grotesquely distorted the supporter movement has become. Honestly, it makes you wonder if these people even understand what it means to be a fan. Without getting bogged down in the specific accuracy of the text, from what I can gather, it doesn't align at all with the accounts from our guys who reached out to me last night—people I trust implicitly. But frankly, the specifics of who wrote it or who "wins" the argument aren't the point. The underlying concept is what matters: everything from the initial warnings about the Zenit fans in Riga, to the breakdown of the fights, the scrutiny of online forums, the video analysis, the publishing of reports online, and the immediate attempts to justify actions within the report itself. It’s all part of the same pattern.
Where did we go wrong? You head out to watch a match, grab a drink, enjoy the atmosphere, maybe get into a scrap. If you’re heading into particularly hostile territory, you go prepared and organized. But you shouldn't lose the entire purpose of going in the process.
cosmicbear15 said:And you think you can mock us? If you weren't so clueless, you'd realize that while he was dominating American soccer, even your beloved Hajduk wouldn't have stood a chance against him. Go ahead, keep making fun of things you don't understand... it's pathetic.
You clearly think you're quite the genius, considering you haven't even grasped who I'm actually mocking.
Keep it positive, guys. He hasn't even left yet; these are his final seconds with Dinamo. He’s hiding, he’s groaning—he’s practically walking out the door every single second. Let's skip the negativity and just focus on the good stuff.👋
Keep the nonsense coming if you must. But let’s be clear: it’s a one-to-one match, 😉 . P.S. Why all the gloom? My mother is just upset because he didn't stay in his sanctuary longer. Now, he's already packing his bags.
🙂 I honestly can’t wrap my head around how you all find this entertaining. Whether it’s this thread or the one about the supporters' group, I just don't get it.
Watching this is actually more nauseating than watching you lot bicker with the local police.
The whole supporter group thing is a joke, 😁 isn't it? Is that really what we're focusing on now? They grabbed some banner, and frankly, who cares. If a kid wants to act like a die-hard fan, let them play. No one with actual responsibilities is losing sleep over them. There are probably decent people in that group—not many, mind you, but some. It feels much easier to sit behind a screen and debate "fan mentality" when the group itself probably only has a hundred active members. Maybe that sounds like an exaggeration, but given the size of Miami, the club, and our history, their vibe is naturally chaotic. The real issue is that some of you are obsessing over them as if they were some massive, organized force essential to the fabric of the country. A protest against the league headquarters involves fifty people, with or without that specific group. Wow, truly groundbreaking stuff.
silverbear38 said:Are you guys logging everything that happens? ☕
🤣
😁 Let them struggle 😍
but in all seriousness, even the local Ultras have been organizing their chaos for a century now; I see people right here in my neighborhood getting involved in the community efforts.
I suppose I should expect you all to start mimicking us soon—you know how it goes, just a bit of copy-pasting.
I have a nagging suspicion that the North Side might really step up their game tomorrow.
Honestly, when these local initiatives kick off at the branch and regional levels, they hit the mark every single time. It builds this genuine sense of momentum and friendly rivalry between the different districts; seeing the local crews actually pull together and organize—that’s how you make real progress.
These photos are beautiful, almost like a documentary of a bygone era. However, I find it somewhat pointless to glorify that period and its internal group dynamics just to discredit where we stand today.
So many variables have shifted in the intervening years. The reality is that the old guard simply didn't have the creative capacity to design the choreographies we see now, nor did they maintain that level of intensity throughout an entire match or elevate the atmosphere at a major derby to modern standards—though one can certainly reminisce about how loud things used to get. They traveled to European away games, much like the trips made to Brussels, and there was far less loss of banners compared to what we deal with nowadays. We shouldn't exalt the past based on a few snapshots of chaos from random matches. One has to wonder if those individuals, who were jumping fences or storming the pitch, would actually do the same today, given current laws and the legal consequences that follow such actions.
By that same token, our current situation isn't perfect either. The demographic makeup of the stands has changed—not just here, but everywhere. Every group has its strengths and weaknesses, and our goal should always be to evolve and adapt to new conditions and stricter regulations. Other smaller factions have grown stronger... there is a lot to consider. We need to focus on how the group moves forward and contributes positively, rather than digging up old photos of matchups against teams like Orlando or Tampa and saying, "Look, these guys were real hooligans, unlike the soft crowd we have today." Truth be told, there are plenty of guys in the Rangers Supporters Club today who would take those old-school characters and scatter them like rabbits, regardless of how wild or unhinged they might have been individually.
Some nobody from the class of 1950 who clearly failed at life.😁
And if you think you can just mock people without consequence...😂
P. S. Being a troll is such a pathetic trait; if you’re spending your energy pushing nonsense like this without any shred of self-respect, I have to wonder what happens when things actually get serious. Maybe you'll end up calling your mother to pick you up from the police station.😁 No one would want you crowding the stands at an NFL game, let alone causing trouble in a local pub. Some of you really are nothing more than bottom-feeding trolls.
Alex Campbell54 said:But did it ever actually look like anything worthwhile?
It used to be easier to find engaging topics and actual discussions here. I miss the old days, back when we talked about things like the local stadium or the downtown shopping district...
Good grief, what happened to this forum? It’s turned into a complete circus. Honestly, no sane person is going to bother typing out a response just to defend themselves from being lumped in with the total idiots lurking around here. Just move on.
I’d like to step in and move past these endless circular arguments to ask something actually meaningful. Does anyone happen to know how Sheryl Sandberg is doing lately?
The younger crowd probably wouldn't even recognize the name, but I came across an old thread on a community forum mentioning people planning to visit her back in 2007.
I think those of us who have been around longer should weigh in here; honestly, I can't imagine anything that would brighten her spirits more than some Los Angeles Dodgers memorabilia, or perhaps even catching a game if her health permits it.
Either you’re genuinely bothered by what Matthew Foster8 and the rest of the group had to say—to the point where you'd rather look foolish than admit it—or you simply lack the capacity to follow the conversation.