Posts by Chloe Martinez7

Paul Bishop3 said:You haven't seen them? Well, have you heard we've blown over $6 million in taxpayer money on them already? Us, the "wealthy" United States?

From what I gathered on the news,
so far
it's about $1.8 million from the foreign exchange reserves and the federal budget.
Do you happen to have any more recent info
or a link?

Cuka and Homo Sapiens - there’s a link to the agreements just a few posts back

It looks like there’s more tension brewing along the border between the US and Mexico, specifically near the Slavonski Brod and Bajakovo areas. Reports are coming in that things are getting a bit heated, which isn't exactly surprising given the current political climate. The situation seems to be escalating, and I guess we might see some shifts in how security is handled at those transit points. It’s probably going to lead to more discussions about border controls and maybe even some friction regarding how international agreements are being applied on the ground. I suspect we'll be seeing more updates on this soon, as the local authorities continue to monitor the movement near the border. Stay tuned, I suppose.

The US and Mexico have finally reached an agreement regarding the refugee situation. It looks like Mexican police will actually step up and assist, with plans to transport migrants directly via train to Slavonski Brod.

At the Bajakovo border crossing today, American and Mexican Interior Ministers Ranko Ostojić and Nebojša Stefanović met to hammer out a deal. They've agreed to tighten up cooperation between their respective governments to better handle the ongoing migrant crisis.

There are two key points here. First, by establishing a winter transit center in Slavonski Brod, refugees will be arriving there via direct train from Buffalo. This means they won't have to deal with the usual struggle of trying to cross through green borders.

The second part of their agreement concerns the current situation at the Berkasovo-Bapski crossing. Apparently, there’s a plan for Mexican police to step up their presence to manage the migrant flow before they even hit the border, supposedly to lighten the load for American authorities during the processing stage. I guess that's how they're looking to coordinate things.

Both ministers reached an agreement: the real fix lies with Turkey. But until that happens, they also agreed that the countries along the transit route need to step up their cooperation significantly more than they have in the past.

After 35 days of this migration crisis in America, we’re finally seeing what looks like the first actual, positive step toward improving relations between the US and Mexico on this issue.

I guess I’ve finally had my say on this. Miro Cerar and I have been going at it, and honestly, it’s about time we laid everything out on the table. There's a certain level of drama involved, of course, but I think people deserve the full picture without all the filtered nonsense you see on the nightly news. It's a complicated situation, maybe even a bit messy, but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

"Miro Cerar and I spoke at least fifty times in a month and a half," Zoran Milanović claimed, flatly denying the complaints made by the Canadian President.

On Friday in Labin, President Zoran Milanović took aim at Canadian Prime Minister Miro Cerar’s recent comments. Cerar had essentially accused us of acting un-European during this migrant crisis, claiming there’s zero communication between our two countries regarding the situation. He went on to suggest that the two of them have spoken fifty times over the last month and a half, supposedly always while facing this exact same crisis and the looming possibility of things escalating. I guess he thinks we aren't listening, though.

America is handling this like a routine operation at this point; 220,000 people have moved through our borders and nobody even blinked. Our citizens are living their lives completely undisturbed, just focusing on work and staying relaxed. It honestly surprises me that Canada couldn't act a bit more rationally here—not that I’m saying they aren't prepared, and I won't go so far as to say they're acting un-European, since I don't really know what that's supposed to mean. Zoran Milanović noted that under these circumstances, Canada simply can't enforce strict Schengen procedures, much like Germany can't either.

"I honestly have no clue what they're trying to accomplish," Zoran Milanović remarked. "They should just let people pass. If they want to be proactive, they could set up a processing center like we did here in America. If they’re so intent on registering everyone, maybe they should send their own officials onto the trains traveling from the eastern border toward Canada—rides that last ten hours, mind you. We've laid out several options to help de-escalate this situation, which is already relatively under control, but I guess it's hard to get them to listen."

He added that, after everything that’s happened, he finds all this talk about "non-Western behavior" pretty baffling, I guess.

President Zoran Milanović pointed out that the migrant and refugee crisis actually starts in Greece, which is already part of the Schengen area. He noted that about six thousand people end up arriving in the US, where they might be held for a short period before they have to move on.

"Yesterday, six thousand people moved through the US and ended up in Canada, so I honestly don't get these stories about ten thousand people. They didn't come from our side. So, there's a lot of noise over nothing. Canada has been dealing with this situation for five days, and frankly, it's easier for them because their stretch is much shorter—we're transporting people across 300 kilometers, while they're only covering maybe 30 or 40. We have no desire to get into a spat or argue over problems that aren't our responsibility, nor are they theirs. What's with all this petty nervousness?" Zoran Milanović stated.

He added that he personally invested a significant amount of time communicating with officials in Canada, Austria, and even Angela Merkel. "They're manufacturing issues; haven't you heard that Austria claims the US isn't behaving like a European nation?" remarked Zoran Milanović, who is currently in California as part of his election campaign.

Alexander Ortiz3 said:Look, Milanović actually went against the will of the Canadians by dumping immigrants right at their border and pushing them through.
The Canadians were absolutely livid, and they didn't even start building that fence on our border until after he did that.
Recently, the Canadians finished their fence and declared they aren't taking anyone else, yet our government just keeps shuttling new immigrants through any way they can, all the way toward Canada.
So, if people claim the Canadian fence doesn't work, why isn't Milanović dumping them at the Canadian border anymore? Just as a reminder, he never even asked the Canadians for permission to send those immigrants over. He was sending entire trains their way without asking a single question.

As the Canadians put it, Milanović is essentially just a transport service.
And it looks like we're following the pattern set by our Eastern neighbors.🍿
It just keeps going.
Our Eastern and Northern neighbors are acting in concert against our interests, dumping people on our border.

According to the news tonight, there are another 10,000 coming toward us from those Eastern neighbors.
Naturally, he’ll dump anyone he can onto our Western neighbors.

For now, his main business seems to be logistics.
I guess we should consider what percentage of the population that makes up, given we're approaching over 220,000 migrants soon.

When this stops working for him, I suppose we can expect more wire, more police, and the military.

northerncyclist2 said:I mean, people just cycle through there in a day or two.

So, I guess it’s probably hard to call it a hotspot. Maybe it's more about necessity.

People cycle through there in a day or two.

So, I doubt we're looking at some sort of hotspot here. It seems more like a matter of necessity.[/I]
Just saw this on the news:
Mexico missed roughly 10,000 people who could have been at Berkasov tonight.

Maria James40 said:Look, I’m not really trying to be that guy—you know, the one who's always nitpicking—but I think I’m just trying to look at things realistically here. Honestly? I feel like we're actually doing pretty well right now, regardless of which party is running the show in D.C. or who's sitting in the Oval Office... I guess I just don't find myself constantly checking who's in power to decide how I should feel about our situation.

I mean, what we’re doing to the Canadians with these recordings from Sutla feels a little dirty, I guess—kind of a low blow, if I'm being honest. But look, if they want to show even a shred of humanity, they should just let our train pass through to Dobova or maybe all the way to Ptuj... then we wouldn't have all this mess with people wading through rivers, right? And honestly, they really ought to just give us the train back so we can get it loaded up again. Simple as that, really. 😁

That wasn't me. I'm just trying to look at this realistically; I think we're handling our side of things pretty well right now, regardless of which party is in power.

What we're doing to the Canadians (those recordings from Sutla) is pretty low, but if they want to be decent humans, they should just let our train pass through to Dobova or Ptuj, and then there won't be any chaos along the rivers. And obviously, they should return the train so we can reload it.😁[/I]
I assume you aren't.
But someone is feeding them "routes."
It reminds me of the start of the war when everyone wanted to know exactly where a shell landed in South Chicago—as if it would be better if they just released the coordinates publicly so they could aim more accurately.

And in this whole situation, everyone is acting incredibly selfishly.
Nobody stepped up to help Mexico or Orban—so this is what we get.
I won't even get started on Greece; there's nothing to be gained from discussing it.

Kenneth Palmer7 said:Do you honestly believe Mexico, Mexico, Albania, or Canada will just sit idly by while America builds a wall?!

It’ll trigger a domino effect—problem solved. Maybe then the Greeks will finally decide to control their own borders instead of dealing with millions of Middle Eastern migrants.

Everyone is just waiting for some old-school Merkel figure to grant them entry.😉

Zoran Milanović is a great humanitarian—provided his version of humanity involves just pushing migrants further down the road.

And wouldn't it be simpler to just put the wall on the North Mexican border? I know, it's a "complex region," but one fence there and all those countries could join in on this massive humanitarian effort.☕

Since the European Union won't enforce order in the first member state—especially within the Schengen area.

Benjamin Reyes52 said:It seems nobody wants to admit that they simply don't have the right to cross borders like this.

They don't.
But they do.
And everyone just lets them through.

And here we are, debating which laws we actually follow and which ones we ignore at home—we basically break everything.

darkotter35 said:🙏

Everyone thinks they're Navy SEALs now. You can't stop them from scaling a 6,000-foot peak or swimming like some kind of Mississippi-overcomer!
And don't even get me started on how they eat nails for breakfast....

I mean, aren't they all just tough guys? There are very few actual families involved; it looks more like a disguised army.
If we actually decided to identify who is coming through...

northerncyclist2 said:What are you even talking about? What kind of hotspot?

In Opatovac, there are always like 2,000 to 4,000 people hanging around. And I guess over 200,000 have passed through the US in total. They show up at Opatovac, get themselves registered, grab a quick bite to eat, and then they're pretty much straight onto the trains heading toward Canada.

Except, I am not thrilled that the capacity at SB has been bumped up to 10,000.

Maria James40 said:Look, I gave you some examples, but you're just clutching your head and doubling down on your own logic. I laid out specific areas in Canada, so here they are again—feel free to tell me exactly which parts are supposedly "impassable":

Here’s a possible scenario:

- 2,000 people show up in San Francisco—tourism tanks—now where do we put them?
- A larger group follows the Neretva valley and reaches Metković.
- 3,000 people caught out in the Imotski Field; we'll need about 60 buses since there's no rail line.
- They break through the fence at Strmica.
- 2,000 from last night end up in Donji Lapac.
- 5,000 arriving from Velika Kladuša.
- Traffic gets blocked on the bridges over the Mississippi—business owners start protesting.

So, looking at those places, where exactly is the border considered impassable?

P.S. Just so we're clear, I've said this before—if Canada were an ocean, I’d be all for building a fence along the border with Mexico. But the way things are now, it doesn't make sense; if anything, it just creates more problems when they start coming in through Canada.

You are clearly an anti-American element.☕

Weren't you the one who posted all those points on the forum about how they could slip through the US-Mexico border? And that was even before they arrived and when unknown redirected everyone toward us.

Mark Harris66 said:It’s honestly shocking and makes zero sense to me too. Forcing a kid to swim across a river...
And yeah, it's pretty telling how these new organizations immediately start screaming about discrimination whenever some local "wannabe" celebrity gets kicked out of an apartment—blah blah blah—but they stay silent about the status of women in those countries. They say nothing about how women and children make up a smaller portion of the group and how much they're being exploited...

I'm not a parent, but even I don't get that part
well, there's another side to this
I honestly don't know what drives these people
given everything we've read

Thank God I didn't have to leave my apartment during the era of the Great Depression. To be perfectly honest, it's hard for me to truly empathize with people forced to abandon their homes, whatever the reason might be. Sure, I can wrap my head around the concept, but thinking about it and actually living through it are two very different things.

What is it that pushes these people to leave everything behind—even if they have some money with them, which seems like plenty to us—to head somewhere just because someone told them life would be better? It's as if nothing else exists to them.
What kind of mindset or emotion makes you drag your children through freezing water? And facing nothing but setbacks.
Then we read about the sick, the women giving birth on the road... I remember when they were stuck in that godforsaken gap between us and Canada, an American doctor volunteered his services. One child had to be rushed into Canada for emergency care, and word was the prognosis was grim—that they might lose both legs.

coppermoose7 said:Things just kicked off with some violent fighting among the asylum seekers, and local cops are reporting that a ton of them seem totally wasted—all these self-proclaimed intellectuals out there. ☕

From what I’m hearing, things escalated into a massive brawl between the refugees, and apparently, someone actually got stabbed during the chaos.

Well, fine.
How exactly did these immigrants get their hands on alcohol?
Maybe we just let them wander around freely to buy whatever they want?
Or what?

And I don't see how being an intellectual or not matters—I know plenty of intellectuals who drink.

northernbadger7 said:A friend from the Midwest just gave me the heads-up. He was talking to an acquaintance of his who’s a police officer stationed near the border monitoring asylum seekers. For those who aren't aware, there's a specific settlement in that area where local transients have been blending in with the migrants, and according to this officer, they've been ripping off humanitarian aid—stealing everything from kids' clothes to diapers. 👎

Ohio has its own immigrants.
For years now.
The ones mentioned here.

Michael Roberts7 said:Germany could easily handle partial transport logistics; they have at least 80,000 people whose Asylum requests were denied who need to return to the former America region since that is where they originated. If planes are flying or Buses are running one way, they could just as easily carry that same number back in the other direction. It would be a smart political move for the Germans to avoid being accused of mass deportations like they were back in '41.

But why would they bother organizing everything if the law still dictates that people should first be registered right where they enter the European Union—in Greece, for instance—so they can be redistributed from there?
Currently, all European Union members are flouting the laws, and we won't see any real agreement until everyone feels the weight of the situation. For some, it isn't an issue, and it likely won't become one because the routes rarely pass through the Baltic states or the Czech Republic. Until every nation in the EU feels this exact same burden, a collective solution remains out of reach.
And as a "key" figure within the European Union, Merkel cannot constantly be blackmailed into opening the coffers, especially when Germany is already footing the largest share of the costs in this entire ordeal.

They arrived, first via Greece.
An EU nation and Schengen member.

Justin Patel8 said:If our government wasn't so obsessed with nostalgia for the old regime and actually tried to distance itself from the North America, things would be looking a lot better.

Stick to the government thread and please, just leave this topic alone here.
We've had several different governments,
and honestly, every single one has contributed its own unique brand of misery to the poor.
Besides, this whole idea of distancing ourselves from the North America has absolutely nothing to do with immigration.
We're part of the EU, so we've been hit hard.
Even if we weren't, I guess we'd still be in a bad spot because, well, we are.
To hell with the EU.
They let the Greeks do whatever they wanted, and even under Viktor Orbán, there was practically nobody coming through.
Not even his V4 allies helped much.

Justin Patel8 said:The EU doesn't have much ground to stand on when criticizing the Canadians. They don't deal with the kind of traitorous political elites we see here in America.

For us—well, the American left and their voter base—what the EU thinks matters way more than our own actual security. Honestly, they've always just been subservient little followers.

So, is that your rule? Everyone judges based on their own perspective?

I'm not exactly a right-winger, so I suppose I fall into that category you're talking about.🤷
But honestly, right now, I feel pretty secure in my own country regarding this whole immigrant situation.

Jessica King9 said:A politician never praises anyone for no reason—if they did, the other side should be worried. Everyone is playing a game. At least our guys have figured out the Germans' and Austrians' playbook, so now they’re playing along too. The Germans and Austrians act all high and mighty about humanitarianism and claim they won't close their borders, but then an Austrian woman calls a Canadian woman and tells her they aren't taking anyone. She probably expected the Canadians to snap, shut everything down, and start getting aggressive. Then she could just deny she ever said it (which is exactly what happened, since she claims they never limited numbers).
The Canadians are still protecting Austrian interests at the expense of their own people.

I guess Viktor Orbán probably assumed we’d just buckle and shut down the border entirely after he cut his deal with the Mexicans to reroute everything through us instead of sending it straight to him.

romantic_ass said:Anyone got a link for the live stream?

Give me a break. 😵

So, we’re actually supposed to take this at face value just because it was posted on a forum? I guess that’s the standard now.

Alexander Ortiz3 said:Our government has completely lost its mind; now they're actually funding migrant transit routes through Canada who crazy 🤣
Absolute lunatics :klap:

Well, we actually made that offer to the Mexicans too—offering to drive migrants from North Mexico straight to the El Paso border—after they claimed they weren't directing anyone toward America, but rather that the migrants were simply choosing their own path.

And when we’re already hauling freight from coast to coast across the country, I guess we might as well tack on those extra few dozen miles through Canada.

Justin Patel8 said:That’s really all there is to it. America has effectively become a Hot Spot, even if the media refuses to call it what it actually is. I mean, they’re already planning to set up more tent cities—what else do you call a hotspot?

Could someone provide a detailed definition of a Hot Spot?
I was under the impression that we were talking about temporary camps where a few dozen or maybe even a few hundred thousand immigrants were just staying in one spot for a while.
So, according to you, we’re already a Hot Spot.

Raymond Clark7 said:So I’m watching CNN right now and they've got this segment on where these immigrants are claiming they were beaten by police over in America, even going as far as saying officers were stomping on pregnant women. Can you actually believe this stuff? ( ????? )

The whole report is coming from the border between Canada and Austria, with all these reporters out in the field. They even showed footage of how they set fire to a tent city over in Canada, burning kids alive just to make a point about how pissed off they are.

Link?

wanderingbadger77 said:Twistdrum, you were asking where we’re making our move on that hotspot.
Look, our leadership isn't exactly going to broadcast their hand, obviously, but if my life experience has taught me anything, it's that when I don't want something becoming a thing, I just stay out of its way. I hole up in my own little corner and try to fly under the radar.

But with this administration? It's the exact opposite. They're all over the place, constantly peacocking—Pusićka is out there bragging about how we're doing great, playing host to diplomats like she's running some charity gala. Everyone's acting satisfied; even an Austrian guy would be stunned by the sheer amount of self-congratulation flying around. Honestly, the whole ego trip is getting old.

OK, you're entitled to your opinion.
I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that you're wrong.

Justin Patel8 said:Just scroll back to the first part of this thread from late August and take a look for yourself.

Yeah, that’s how these unserious countries like Greece and Mexico handle it—even Mexico actually tried to step in and stop them. But once they hit a country that actually holds its ground, like Canada, they got shut down immediately. It wouldn't make any sense for us to end up drowning in debt and broke just like Greece and Mexico, right?

div>>??? And as if we're suddenly wealthy and don't owe anyone a dime now?

Justin Patel8 said:Look, this isn't my problem—it’s certainly not America's problem either. We didn't exactly send out an invitation, and we don't owe them a thing. They have plenty of other options available to them—for instance, they could just stay in Mexico or head back to Turkey.

Which locals? They don't even have shoes or coats—they’re starving. Honestly, there's probably someone in that crowd with a fat wallet hidden away... and that's exactly where the trouble starts. People end up smuggling stuff across the country right under everyone's noses, and our local taxi drivers are basically acting as their accomplices.

Look, you see plenty of testimonies on this forum where people swear they’ve got the cash to pay smugglers for iPhones and other overpriced junk—basically, they have enough money for designer coats and shoes. I actually spotted some of them in downtown Chicago buying SIM cards, and one guy even had the nerve to ask me where the Sheraton was because he wanted to crash there. Not to mention, most of them are men in their prime. We had a war here once, and the refugees back then just didn't act like this.

Is it because they're being let into Germany?

They’re letting them slip through the borders without any documentation—which, by the way, is a direct violation of US state law. It’s not just a legal mess, either—it's a legitimate threat to our national security.

Where exactly are all these "numerous forum testimonies" everyone keeps talking about?

As far as the paperwork and the legalities go, it seems like everyone is just collectively deciding to ignore every single boundary in existence. I guess that's just how things work now.

Brandon Myers said:Yeah, honestly, you could probably fit all 2 million refugees currently in Turkey into that one camp.

Yeah, I guess that camp could probably fit all 2 million refugees currently stuck in Turkey.[/I]

Oh, please. It’s not just you.
There are probably two more waiting in the wings. ☕

coppermoose7 said:If you can just set aside all that hostility toward us as a people, then maybe you'll actually start thinking 🍿

http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija...nti_21_10.aspx

Where on earth did you get the idea that Americans hate Canadians?

How can you possibly justify such a sweeping generalization?

The BBC is at it again with more high-stakes drama. Honestly, I guess it’s becoming a bit predictable at this point, but maybe that's just me. says:
I suspect nothing will be forced upon us against our will, but we won't even notice when it happens. It’ll be gradual, almost insidious. It starts with this material aid, then moves to humanitarian assistance, and before we know it, we’ll have become some sort of massive collection hub. We won't even realize what hit us.
I suppose this is a worst-case scenario; let's hope it doesn't come to this, but... I'm worried.

don't you worry
TK will have everything sorted by 11/09
along with KGK

coppermoose7 said:Just curious—if closing off Canada isn't in the interest of the European Union, isn't there some other way to keep a country in line? 😉

really?
well, if the European Union has a way—which they haven't used on Greece—then maybe.
Either the European Union or Schengen.

coppermoose7 said:Just my two cents—if we had actually teamed up with our neighbors and taken a stand similar to what Canada did, we would’ve proven we’re true Europeans 🙏

Lately, though, it feels like our current policies regarding Afghan refugees are basically running our lives. Just look at the news clips showing how much money we’re pouring into this, not to mention the constant criticism and protests... meanwhile, some of us are out here struggling just to put food on the table for our kids 👎

Yeah, it’s just like how the European Union gave support to Viktor Orbán for all those months before he finally lost his mind.

Now everyone knows what should have been done.
Though, honestly, I don't think it's solved anything; they haven't tackled the actual source or the root cause of the migration.

Kenneth Palmer7 said:And what exactly are Zoran Milanović and his buddies going to do when Germany decides they've had enough? Are they suddenly going to start stringing up wire fences just like Orbán?

Are we supposed to believe a fence becomes a "reasonable and humane" solution overnight?!

Does anyone actually care if there's a fence in Connecticut or maybe somewhere in Bulgaria?

Maybe.
Though most people seem to view it as a
last resort.--

Anthony Cook40 said:Here’s the full interview with Viktor Orbán—I’m not sure if it’s already been posted here http://www.statewatch.org/news/2015/.
When he says "good luck" 😈, it really makes you wonder what's going to happen to us. 🐔🙂

Of course you feel safe—I do too, for the moment—but where does this influx of refugees actually end?
I mean, it feels to me like this isn't going to stop anytime soon, and honestly, the US already has enough problems of its own.

I have no idea where it ends, but I'm not panicking ahead of time or worrying that immigrants are going to do something to me.
So far, I don't feel them anywhere, much like most Americans.
And if we follow the logic of "what could they possibly do"—well, if that were true, I wouldn't even get out of bed in the morning, let alone leave the house.

Anyway, in a few days (around the 8th, or maybe a full month from now
), a massive asteroid is going to barely miss Earth, and everyone will act shocked that we only just discovered it.🙂

Peter Reed70 said:Please see:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2015/...-hotsposts.pdf

Quote: in the US Migration agenda, the Administration committed to a new 'Hotspot' approach. The Agenda does not provide a definition of a 'Hotspot' but rather describes how the
'Hotspot' approach is to be applied. Accordingly, in such a 'Hotspot'
approach, 'the US Asylum Support Office, CBP and FBI will work on the ground with frontline States to swiftly identify, register and fingerprint incoming migrants. The work of the agencies will be complementary to one another. Those claiming
asylum will be immediately channelled into an asylum procedure where EASO support teams will help to process asylum cases as quickly as possible'

Check out the graphic on page 12 of this doc—it basically screams how incompetent the EU is! Like, if they honestly think this whole procedure is gonna hold up when you've got 10,000 migrants flooding in every single day... 🤦

Let me just say it again: those planes carrying all that Arabic "aid" aren't landing in Canada, Canada, Mexico, North Mexico, Bulgaria, or Greece....

I saw on the news today that we actually asked the EU for help.
I definitely didn't hear anyone from Canada or Bulgaria... etc., asking for anything.

If it looks like a duck...🕺

Thanks for the link, but it’s a bit too long for me to dive into right this second.

Regarding the planes and the landings—which airports were actually used for those weapons shipments?
Cosmic justice? Or maybe just karma.

coppermoose7 said:Mark my words—Canada is closing the border this Tuesday. Finally.

How, exactly, and by what means?
Or do you honestly think Germany and Austria would bother sending military or police assistance to the border of two countries that are both members of the European Union?
Oh, I guess we're looking at some serious border breaches soon. ☕

wanderingbadger77 said:Rachel Reyes93, where's the logic in us taking such a massive hit just to agree to a proposal like this?
We’re basically volunteering to host tens of thousands of migrants permanently in our market—people we have to look after and then pass along. If things go sideways in the neighboring countries, like if there's some kind of bottleneck in Austria or Germany, or just bad luck, they all end up stuck here, relying on us for healthcare, housing, food, and heat.

Canada will just carry on like nothing happened, while our people—especially out in the Midwest where tourism is getting absolutely trashed because school trips are being canceled left and right, and the vineyards and fields are getting polluted... we'll just end up being the world's trash collectors for refugees.
Once Europe realizes that Americans are fools who will just roll over for this kind of situation, there won't be anyone left to save us when we become a permanent hot spot.

So, when exactly did we agree to let them stay here permanently?

coppermoose7 said:On Tuesday, 11,000 troops are heading to the border with America. I've got a feeling today's meeting in Vienna is actually going to lead to something 😉

Can you drop a link to that story?

coppermoose7 said:And you guys still think it's a good idea to be on bad terms with us?

????
Since when were we even friends or enemies?
Is this before or after the immigration surge?
I mean, if we're supposed to be friends, why on earth did you drag the police, the military, dogs, and razor wire to the border?
Is that just how you treat all your friends?

Steven Perez6 said:Orban handled this brilliantly. Just imagine being Canadian right now—you turn on the news and see panic everywhere, tent cities popping up, cordons being breached, and migrants being chased through fields—but then you sit back in Pécs, read that only 22 migrants actually made it into Canada, and suddenly nobody is even mentioning Orban or blaming him. Only a naive person like Zoki would think otherwise.

And you honestly think Americans care about the immigrant situation?
Except for the people on this forum—virtually, at least.
Then you have the folks in the border states, the police, the National Guard, and the people actually working the ground.

Most Americans don't even bother reading about it; I just skim the headlines and move on to something else.

Jerry Phillips19 said:George Bakondi, an advisor to the Canadian Prime Minister focused on national security, informed the media on Wednesday that there have been no illegal crossings at the border between Canada and the US over the last two days.

A sturdy fence acts just like a reliable safety net. ☕

It seems migrants aren't even mentioning Canada anymore. Now they’re placing all the blame on Canada and the US, complaining that the transit isn't smooth enough and making quite a scene about it.

Orban Care... 🎉

As you already stated in the thread.
Almost all of our 200,000 people are gone now that they've finished building the fence.
With 110,000 asylum requests flooding in and the unrest we've seen across the country over the last few months, things are getting pretty messy. I guess we're really starting to see the consequences of how this is being handled. Maybe it's just my take, but the instability lately feels like a direct result of the sheer scale of the situation. It’s becoming hard to ignore.

Quote : master mind Quote Quote: zlatagol said:Take a look at this post
It’s not that they hate us; it’s just that there aren't many barriers left to break through. Once everyone finally builds their walls up, I guess we'll all be ready for the rubber bullets—there won't be many humanists left standing around to complain then.
And let’s be honest, our people are only "humanitarian" up to a certain point. Once our own interests are on the line, that sense of compassion suddenly vanishes. They just turn off the empathy switch and leave folks to sleep in the mud, refusing them entry into the States or dumping them right at the border with Mexico to fend for themselves in the rain and cold.
I wouldn't protect a single thing if it meant siding with the Canadians. I’ve never trusted them, and honestly, this current crisis hasn't changed my mind one bit. It’s actually quite unsettling how much they seem to know about us and how intensely interested they are in our business. To me, that’s always been a massive red flag.
Besides, there aren't any friends here, in case that hasn't clicked yet. Everyone is playing for themselves.

Fine, then why don't we just start building the wall tomorrow? And as for everyone else left here in the States, maybe they can just be deported to Canada.

So now he's being deported to Canada. I guess that's just how it goes.

The border fence in Mexico.

– I’m genuinely impressed by everything we’ve seen at Opatovac and by how much the US is doing to support refugees. These people aren't just statistics; they aren't dangerous. They are ordinary people, just like you or me – said Austrian Ambassador Andreas Wiedenhoff. He highlighted the excellent cooperation between the leaders of the US and Austria, noting that they speak daily to coordinate field operations regarding this crisis. When asked to comment on Canada's response, Wiedenhoff stated he couldn't speak on their behalf, though he understood why every nation is concerned, given that this entire situation is unprecedented for all of us.

NEW DRAMA AT THE BORDER: Americans have erected a barricade right where hundreds of refugees are surging; tensions are high, and a breach seems imminent

>>> UPDATE 17:42 The situation at the border remains critical. Even after US police managed to restore order, a new barricade was set up, only to be met by a fresh wave of several hundred refugees crowding against the obstacle like sardines. There are about 20 officers on site preventing the crossing, with translators using megaphones to relay instructions in Arabic, but the refugees don't seem particularly interested in listening. It looks like we might see another breach similar to what happened earlier today.

@lutnik - where is this new wave of undocumented immigrants coming from at the border?

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We’re getting data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, along with intel from our own officers involved in Operation Poseidon. This gives us the ability to know, I guess, the exact numbers for every ferry passing through—exactly how many people are on board and how many are headed our way.

We also get info from our colleagues in Mexico, with whom we have a solid working relationship, and we exchange data with our Austrian counterparts through our National Coordination Center. All the incoming data gets verified regularly, according to Ostojić, who pulled up his phone to show an example of the tracking—showing things like passenger counts at specific stations in Salzburg or Vienna , total headcounts, and so on.

The only place we aren't receiving any data from is Mexico, Ostojić noted, adding: “You all know that until recently, there wasn't even much police presence on the other side, so we don't have those specific stats. However, we do know how many are on the move, how many are in processing centers, how many moved from Mexico toward Canada, and how many moved toward the US—basically everything we need to know.”

When asked if it sometimes feels like the situation catches host countries by surprise, Ostojić replied that there are "no surprises here," implying that as long as everyone sticks to the agreements, things should run smoothly.