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The Visegrad Group thread massacre has begun... in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Morgan Ruiz3 said:I don’t quite get it—if a three-digit number of posts were actually deleted, what exactly was being scrubbed? These are posts from months ago; why bother now?

Attempting to have a serious discussion about political options here is absurd; it’s like claiming you can breathe without any oxygen. If a politician makes a positive or negative comment regarding the Visegrad Group, we aren't allowed to comment on the "America and Visegrad Group" thread? That is some truly fascinating logic right there.
The relationship between domestic politics and the Visegrad Group has become a daily headline in the news, yet here, censorship starts to kick in. You claim this has turned into a right-wing chatroom and tell us to move elsewhere, but what if someone from the left or someone just looking for a neutral perspective wants to discuss America's potential involvement with the Visegrad Group or our government's official stance? They are shut down immediately.

You have entire threads under politics where people drone on about shoes, dresses, someone's kids, or psychiatric sessions, and you find all of that perfectly acceptable and unmoderated. But the moment anyone discusses the American political stance toward the Visegrad Group on the "America and Visegrad Group" topic, suddenly it's an issue. Bravo.🤦

I think everyone’s getting a bit mixed up here. The total number of posts deleted since this thread started is actually in the triple digits.
The Visegrad Group thread massacre has begun... in Feedback & Suggestions ·
crimsonjackal63 said:I haven't been posting much lately, but I've been lurking and reading everything—definitely picked up some things along the way.
The way things are going, this topic has become a total minefield. They’ve gone out of their way to troll and mock slybison8, and honestly, they might even try to push him out of his position.

Give me a break. Stop the drama. We obviously didn't do that.
Major trolling over at Politico... in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Adam Collins4 said:Yeah, I am. Especially since I know from some pretty solid sources that even the moderators over at Reddit know all about these situations.

Am I really such a reliable source as a moderator here that you're actually taking my word for it when I say I don't know? 🤔 😬
Major trolling over at Politico... in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Adam Collins4 said:Yeah, well, when are we going to see all those banned clone accounts riding the political bandwagon?

Look, we can't just ban people without actual proof. You haven't given me anything but a bunch of hunches.
Politics - Polls & Debates in Feedback & Suggestions ·
The results are in. 😬

Alright, I'll post them once I'm back at my desk.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Lockheed Martin hasn't gone anywhere; he’s still one of our fellow moderators.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Drew Brooks8 said:Alright, here’s the link
http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=5...postcount=6979
What does this post have to do with the immigrant thread? And why hasn't it been banned or deleted, especially since the political moderators were active in the discussion while it was being written?
Are they just pretending they don't see it?

And why on earth would we delete that post? Does it actually break any of the subforum rules or trigger some moderator warning?

Edward Ortiz77 said:To actually understand what Meadow and Edo are doing here, you need to scroll back through at least ten pages of this thread. You can't grasp the big picture if you just react to posts one by one. In this specific instance, the issue lies with the criteria being used. They aren't applied equally; there's a double standard between users who don't hold strong opinions, like lonebadger6 and Bradley Sanders4, and those who do. My own post, which I pinned to the top of this sub-forum, looks completely unfair if you try to weigh it against the body of work produced by Edo and Meadow over the last ten pages.

An example of hate speech slipped right under the radar because Bradley Sanders4 dismissed it as mere "trolling." Let me present it once more for clarity:
http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=5...7&postcount=34

Remember how the Germans used to view us sixty years ago when we were migrating en masse—no paperwork, no trade skills, barely speaking a word of the language. That was our global reputation back then, and that was the demographic leaving. Canadians and Herzegovinians in ragged socks, people who had never even seen a television or a phone in their lives. Don't even get me started on the lack of running water or basic plumbing. At least these Syrians know how to use a smartphone.

North American pigs... See how quickly those North American pigs got used to having soap and toothpaste, and how quickly they panicked at the thought of someone taking that very same soap and toothpaste away from them.

If a gentleman making comments about "Canadians, Herzegovinians... North American pigs" is treated with the same weight as my post regarding Index's laziness, then we really have nothing left to discuss.

Yeah, they’re arguing.

In this specific instance, the whole thing boils down to the criteria. It’s just not a level playing field. You've got people like lonebadger6 and Bradley Sanders4 who don't really have an opinion on anything, and then you've got everyone else who actually stands for something. The rules aren't being applied equally to both groups.

Not really. Honestly, some people's takes just align more with... Look, let's talk about the rules of this forum. Seriously.It’s about fairness—making sure one person isn't treated differently than everyone else. To be blunt, it means people who wrap their opinions in insults based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, politics, or any other identity are going to get flagged way more often. If you're out here promoting or calling for criminal acts defined under the U.S. Penal Code, or if you're glorifying Nazism, fascism, or any racist or xenophobic garbage, expect to get banned. You'll be kicked off the forum a hell of a lot faster than the people actually playing by the rules.

This particular example of hate speech flew completely under the radar—the kind of stuff that Bradley Sanders4 just dismissed as "trolling." So, let me lay it out for you one more time:

Look, I know it’s technically none of my business to be answering for you—especially since other people's bans and moderation drama shouldn't really affect my life—but since we're actually talking about how this place is moderated, I figured I’d weigh in on this specific complaint. It feels right to give an answer here.

I was actually giving that post some serious thought—wondering if it qualified as hate speech or just some really aggressive trolling. But once you take a closer look, it’s pretty obvious that the slur used toward the Canadian folks isn't actually his own opinion. It’s a direct reaction to that comment about refugees having "mindsets from the 12th century," where the author implies that's how Germans used to describe immigrants from the North America who "refuse to integrate." Since you mentioned we need to look at posts in context, this one can only be read as a sarcastic jab at people pushing that whole "failure to adapt" narrative. Yeah, it's trolling, for sure, but that's why it got flagged.

Look, your case was already picked apart in another thread, so there’s absolutely nothing left to debate here.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
@Charles Wells71, you posted a troll link. If you see a post is gone and the server didn't just crash, it means it was deleted. It’s standard practice here to ban people for reposting deleted content, just like we ban anyone who tries to argue with moderator posts in color. If you actually have a question about how moderation works, ask it here instead of cluttering up the thread.

Regarding the discussion on rape: this thread is specifically about the global refugee crisis spilling over into Europe, not about assaults in Sweden. Besides, whenever someone drags this topic up, it just derails the whole conversation into off-topic trolling. We aren't going to debate something as complex and deeply traumatic for victims as rape just so people can use it as a political tool to claim immigrants are bad. You'll have to find some other digital playground for that kind of nonsense.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Richard Sanders7 said:http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=5...postcount=1649

I was honestly pretty shocked when I saw that. If you're asking for my honest opinion, it felt incredibly brutal.

So a red card shocks you, but landmines and machine guns don't?
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Who is this?
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Nicholas Watson said:@Bradley Sanders4
Are we talking about actual refugees here, or just economic migrants? I honestly can't tell what you're officially calling these immigrants from your last post.
I was actually typing out a response on this thread, but I gave up pretty quickly. You say anyone who tries to do that job is bound to mess up. Sure, true. But when someone actually points out where you've screwed up, instead of taking the critique, you just start handing out participation trophies for trolling and accusing everyone on the forum of staging a witch hunt against the mods.

Mostly refugees, but since they aren't some single, uniform group, I just stuck with the term "immigrants."
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
placidnomad87 said:Am I actually allowed to post on this forum? It feels like someone is constantly deleting my comments.

Like our buddy Resonator pointed out earlier, this place is for actual discussion, not just dumping links. Start participating in the conversation and you won't get flagged for being off-topic.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Bradley White73 said:Sure, thanks. I really don't have any intention of trolling, but I suppose I need a little breathing room regarding potential strikes—you know, for those times when I think I'm being perfectly on-topic, but the mods decide it's off-topic instead. Like that time Leonas's link about the Ottoman conquests got wiped out. Later, nasmijanonebo posted in that same thread and her post stayed up, and lo and behold, the whole thing didn't turn into a total mess 🙂 Just so I don't end up banned if I misread the room.
Now I'm just waiting to see if Chuck and Bradley Sanders4 get flagged for hate speech 😬

Comparing refugees to Ottoman conquerors—people who were forced to flee their homes because looters showed up to take everything—is blatant trolling. It doesn't matter whether it sparks a massive debate or not. I know people are arguing over whether everyone involved is actually a refugee or not (as if that changes the reality for those who truly are), but in my book, comparing economic migrants to actual conquerors is just as much of a troll move.

As for Maria Booth's warning, I see it the same way. She compared people fleeing war, famine, or poverty to enter Europe with the European colonizers of America—basically hinting at crimes so massive they could be viewed as the largest genocide in history from today's perspective. If equating immigrants to people who committed those kinds of atrocities isn't inciting hatred, then I don't know what is.

William Bennett53 said:The topic of immigration is perhaps the most difficult subject we currently face when it comes to moderation on this platform. It requires constant, conscientious oversight from several of our moderators. When dealing with such volatile discussions and a high demand for intervention, it’s easy to see the effort involved. It can happen—and indeed does happen—that something is overlooked and goes unaddressed, or conversely, that an overreaction occurs. We must evaluate these individual instances and take action whenever it's determined that a mistake was made.

Personal attacks against the mods won't be tolerated, just as attacks against Muslims, racism, malicious generalizations or comparisons, fabricated arguments, and similar behaviors should not be tolerated. Regardless of one's personal opinion, such conduct must be shut down swiftly, and the moderators have the full support of the administration to enforce penalties.
As for the issue of clone accounts, there is really no need to dwell on it. I am not aware of any recent case where someone was banned as a clone when they weren't actually one. Therefore, if a large number of clones are being banned, it is simply a reflection of frequent attempts to violate the rules (and other tactics, such as trying to create the illusion of widespread consensus for certain views), rather than an issue with the moderators themselves.

Agreed. We all mess up sometimes.
Moderating the immigration thread in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Maria Booth said:Count me in on the protest! Is it just me, or is this massive list of banned users getting totally weird? Are you guys planning on banning everyone who wants to stop immigration? Because if that's the plan, the whole thread will just be two random dudes and moderator Bradley Sanders4.

Look, a huge chunk of those bans are just clones of people who were already permabanned, popping up again and again. And just to save you the trouble of asking: the immigration thread is almost never the reason they get the axe.

Are you planning to ban everyone who supports restricting immigration?

That wasn't the reason for a single one of those bans.

By the way, I don't moderate the immigration stuff all by myself. 😉
Read the full thread before posting, guys! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Gerald Rivera17, look, it doesn't matter if this is your first post on the thread or your eightieth. It also doesn't matter whether you actually read the whole discussion—though, based on what Sam Green73 said, you really should have--the bottom line is you shouldn't be dropping links to news stories that have already been debunked (whether it's here on Reddit or out in the mainstream media). If you're the one sharing the info, you're the one responsible for making sure it's actually true. If it's fake, you're just trolling at that point. Next time, do us all a favor and double-check your sources before you paste a link to some total fabrication on the board.
Anyone else feeling a bit off? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Comparing today's migration trends to some Ottoman invasion from five centuries ago isn't just pushing the envelope—it’s completely off the rails.
Are we all the same? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Brenda Booth19, do you have any idea how many arguments we managed to dodge thanks to warnings from my former Zelkova moderator? Or is your issue strictly limited to this one single post of mine? Honestly, I don't recall seeing you prepping a massive bonfire based on the PZ guidelines just to hunt down justice for every unauthorized post.
Are we all the same? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Brenda Booth19 said:...regardless of the topic, who I'm talking to, or what's going on.

Hey. Hold on. I didn't just throw those around regardless of the topic, the person, or the situation. ☕
Are we all the same? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Olivia Murphy24 said:Go ahead then. Go find some posts from that unknown person that actually got banned, and then come back to me.

Using those standards? Fine by me.

Ad hominem:
Olivia Murphy24 said:You're just here to play referee with a whistle even though you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Typical.

Name-calling:
Olivia Murphy24 said:Honestly, I'm not offended. The opinion of someone like that isn't worth getting upset over.

Targeting a user:
Olivia Murphy24 said:Don't even bother explaining it to her. She doesn't have the capacity to understand what she's proving from one post to the next.

It’s a little awkward trying to point out double standards when you're writing stuff like this.
Are we all the same? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Yeah, we’re all cut from the same cloth. I didn't get banned for being insulting. Honestly, nobody on this forum is any better than me—I bet there's a double-digit number of people who've been flagged, and don't even get me started on how many "candidates" have popped up lately. Some unknown person is leading the pack. 🙂