Nicole Lee6 said:Look, what the IRS told me was that there are two certificates on the USB token because one is used for accessing the IRS portal (logging in), while the second allows for signing (acting as your official seal and signature). Even I wasn't clear on why they were charging me a subscription for two certificates until they explained it... So, I end up paying $390.00 + sales tax every year.
So you didn't buy a certificate through the IRS directly, but rather through your bank (it looks like JP Morgan Chase started offering this around September 2013; I just found out today)? $73 Do you have to pay every single year? And do you have any idea how much they'll charge you to renew it once those 2 years are up?
Now, here is what is really bothering me; I just got a notification on my online banking that my certificate is expiring soon. It said if I have a certificate issued for the IRS after March 11, 2013, I can use the IRS USB token to log into online banking. But since mine was issued before March 11, 2013 (unfortunately), I have two options:
- Take my existing USB token—which I currently use for IRS filings and doesn't expire until January 29, 2015—back to the IRS early so I can use that same stick for both the IRS portal and JP Morgan Chase online banking. Renewing it early costs $80.00 + sales tax now, followed by a $390.00 + sales tax annual subscription, though there wouldn't be an additional renewal fee every 2 years.
- I’m seriously considering canceling my digital tax certificate through the IRS and just asking JP Morgan Chase to issue both certificates at once—one for the IRS portal and one for the online banking on the card I actually use. That would set me back about $150.00 a year including tax. 😲 These certificates are valid for two years, but the folks at JP Morgan Chase can't tell me a damn thing about what the renewal fee will look like after those two years are up. They basically just know there *will* be a charge, but they haven't actually figured out the amount yet . Meanwhile, the IRS warned me that I should double-check exactly how much the bank plans to charge for the renewal down the road. Their logic is that since they don't charge anything themselves, if I move everything to the bank, I might end up paying way more in the long run than I originally thought! 🤔
So now I'm sitting here thinking: if I go ahead and cancel the IRS certificate (which carries a cancellation fee of $27 plus tax) and just order an IRS-compatible certificate from JP Morgan Chase instead , will I still have seamless access to the IRS portal as well as my online banking? Or is there some technical glitch waiting to screw me over?! The price gap is honestly pretty massive (JP Morgan Chase is $150.00 annually, while the IRS option is $487.50 annually) .
To make matters even more frustrating, the bank staff told me that you only need one single certificate for everything—but maybe we had a massive misunderstanding there. Because the IRS is insisting that the card needs two separate certificates: one specifically for logging in and a second one used for digital signatures.
Exactly—I didn't go through FIFA; instead, I just got a security key from the Federal Reserve for my online banking that comes with a built-in certificate. Paid $73 the whole thing upfront, and I use it for both my banking and the IRS—it’s all one PIN and works perfectly fine.
Yeah, there are technically two certificates on there—that's what the folks at FIFA say—but honestly, bank tellers don't know the first thing about those technical details; to them, it's just one single certificate, 😁
I'm going to try using it for the Social Security Administration sites soon to see if it works—not totally sure, but since it's an electronic signature, it should be fine.
No clue what the renewal fee will be in two years... and who knows what they'll change by then, so I'm not losing any sleep over it right now. 🤣
I bet the price difference is just because banks get bulk discounts on those certificates—they probably pass some of those savings along to us customers...