Posts by placidgardener99

Whenever things just aren't working anymore, I end up heading to the ER, much as I hate to admit it. And honestly, you really have to take something right when it hits; it seems like I don't even get that little grace period anymore where I feel slightly under the weather before everything just suddenly spikes and I'm stuck feeling nauseous.
Usually, at the ER, they’ll give you some painkillers and then toss in something to help you relax, which is pretty standard advice whenever the pain is intense—whether you're dealing with a migraine, period cramps, or post-op stuff. You might take something like Advil or whatever, because all that physical tension from the pain just makes the whole thing worse, so you basically have to force your body to "calm down" to handle it.

For me, things got pretty rough about two or three years after I got my first period; I started dealing with these absolutely insane cramps that hit me in waves. Sometimes they’re just manageable enough for some pills to take the edge off, but other times they get so bad I’ve actually had to roll into the ER for an injection just to function. Honestly, I completely trashed my stomach lining by overusing high-dose Ketoral because nothing else seemed to touch the pain, but for the last few months, I’ve been using Nalgesin L, and it’s been working wonders. It hits the same way Ketoral does—not that anything truly kills the pain entirely on my absolute worst days—but at least I don't have to deal with that constant brain fog or the stomach issues Ketoral used to put me through.

Until the mod realizes this PDF isn't her own personal playground where she can just sit back and cheer on her little favorites while they troll, insult, and stir the pot, she’s missing the point. Once she understands that no single post should go unpunished—and that quoting someone shouldn't be a one-way ticket to getting banned—then maybe we can talk about whether she actually belongs in a moderator role.

Donna Cooper98 said:yeah, so basically it lowers excess estrogen if the body is naturally pumping out too much of it.
If your levels are already low, then it just acts as a replacement.
And even if everything is functioning normally, it still works in an anti-estrogenic way, which effectively means it's lowering those levels anyway..

So here’s the thing... that implies under normal circumstances, it actually REDUCES estrogen levels..
But... what happens then?!

P.S.: I really hope you manage to get your endometriosis under control. I'm truly sorry you're going through this.

I don't have a definitive answer for you, but my take is that if we're specifically talking about certain groups who need to avoid soy, women with perfectly balanced estrogen levels aren't part of that group, so there shouldn't be any fallout. At the end of the day, it isn't some miracle drug, and most people aren't consuming such massive quantities that it would throw their entire hormonal balance off 🤷...

P.S. I'm also rooting for things to settle down for you 🙂.

Nicole Parker93 said:Is it actually a hundred percent certain that it's bad for kids? I’m asking because I have a friend whose little ones are supposedly allergic to cow's milk, even though it never caused any issues at my house. Now she’s giving them soy milk because she thinks it's fine, and rice milk too.

Nothing feels completely certain these days, but most scientists have pretty much reached a consensus that kids shouldn't be consuming soy, mainly because of those phytoestrogens and how they might mess with their developing systems. That's why the general advice is to skip it entirely; if there's a cow's milk allergy involved, just swap it out for oat or rice milk. Personally, I find rice milk tastes disgusting, but oat milk has this nice sweetness that's actually somewhat similar to soy. On a bit of an off-topic note regarding kids, they really shouldn't be eating artificial sweeteners either—you know, like those sugar substitutes used by diabetics.

Look, if you’re dealing with endometriosis like I am, you’re almost certainly fighting an excess of estrogen—since it's an estrogen-dependent condition—so getting some phytoestrogens from soy might actually help balance out that estrogen dominance. I realize everyone says you should stay away from soy if you're pregnant or nursing, but otherwise, I don't think it can do you any harm.

Walter Fowler6 said:I’ve been feeling pretty swollen over the last few days. I have a hunch my body is just holding onto way too much water.
I’m drinking about two liters of water a day, keeping the coffee to a maximum of two cups, eating healthy, running regularly, and I don't deal with weight issues or high blood pressure—plus, it's definitely not PMS...

Could this be caused by some kind of vitamin deficiency?

Are you on any birth control? That could definitely be one of the culprits, along with some kind of hormonal imbalance.
But honestly, the other option—which might even be more likely—is something involving your kidneys.

Jamie Johnson6 said:You're missing the point; based on their actual makeup, those specific ones are actually great for dealing with excess male hormones—basically the fallout from PCOS. It’s similar to how people react to Diane (though, obviously, everyone’s body responds differently). Someone who actually understands chemistry could explain that it isn't just about how "strong" they feel, but about the specific chemical composition.😉

Like any birth control pill, Yasmin uses synthetic female hormones—a mix of estrogen and progestin designed to block ovulation, making pregnancy impossible while you're taking it. The big differentiator with Yasmin is that it utilizes a newer progestin called drospirenone, which provides diuretic and anti-androgenic effects alongside its hormonal function. Dr. Damir Mamuzić

Let’s look at this realistically... Personally, and speaking for all my girlfriends who have been on Yasminka, we never actually saw any of that supposed "diuretic" magic happen. If anything, I was constantly bloated, retaining water, and dealing with a massive breakout of cellulite. And that was without changing my diet (which is pretty clean—mostly home-cooked meals, fruits, veggies, lean poultry, grains, tons of water, and green tea) or my lifestyle (I make sure to get at least four hours of exercise a week plus plenty of walking). So, if Saint Peter were to judge, I’d say what Dr. Mamuzić is describing just doesn't match my reality. 🤷.
Of course, it’s not just about how "gentle" a pill is, but when you actually look at the dosages available in the US market, you can see that Yasminka and Diane are definitely on the more potent side of the spectrum. As far as managing PCOS goes, most pills will technically work to address the main issue—stopping ovulation so your ovaries don't end up riddled with cysts—but really, it all comes down to which specific formula your own body decides to tolerate.

Jamie Johnson6 said:Logest isn't my cup of tea, but Cilesta? Are you absolutely sure about that one?

I am 100% there with you on that. Honestly, I’ve spent way too much time deep-diving into the ingredients of every single pill out there just to wrap my head around why gynecologists act like these "mild" options like Yasminka are some kind of miracle cure. For me, the side effects were actually way more brutal than what I dealt with on Dianama.

darkviper6 said:Okay, now you guys actually have me worried. Why shouldn't I just use pantyliners? I use them every single day. What’s the big deal about not being allowed to use them???🤷

It’s because those liners are basically just layers of plastic sitting right against your skin, which completely suffocates it. If we already know that wearing tight leggings, skinny jeans, or synthetic underwear can be a nightmare for intimate health, just imagine what a daily liner is doing to you.

I know I’m probably being a total drag to myself here 😠, but for the sake of everyone else in this group, I need to say this again: Yasmin actually has a much higher hormone dose than Logest, Cilest, or whatever else you're looking at.
If your doctor told you to stick with Logest because they claimed Yasmin was too strong, you really ought to take that up with them directly 🤷—it’s most likely just a case where someone didn't bother checking the actual ingredients and just assumed it was true because "everyone says" Yasmin is the low-dose option.
Personally, I think sticking to the lower-dose ones like Logest is the better move, though honestly, that might not solve your specific issue. You really need to dig into why you're bleeding; if it's breakthrough bleeding, it could just be your body adjusting to the pill (even though five months is a long time to still be adjusting), but it could also point to something more serious—for me, it ended up being a symptom of endometriosis.
And, just my two cents: if you aren't taking these for a specific medical necessity like PCOS or endometriosis, you should probably just ditch the toxic stuff altogether 👎.