Posts by Susan James

Kate Morgan14 said:Honestly, it bugs me that grading isn't even realistic in first grade...
In my little one's class, it’s nothing but straight A's and B's right now...
The teacher explained that she won't hand out any bad grades yet—she doesn't want to crush their spirits right at the start of their schooling. Apparently, they're too emotionally sensitive, and such a massive shift would be too much for them to handle early on...

In practice, this means if they bomb a spelling test or a quiz, she doesn't actually record a failing grade; instead, she just keeps having them retake it until they get it right, and only then does she finally grade it...

The kids end up with zero clue how they're actually performing. They're going to hit a massive wall in second grade when the grades actually reflect reality—I just hope they're prepared for the shock.

Honestly, some of these goals just aren't grounded in reality. I was looking at a few of these projections earlier, and it's hard to take them seriously when they feel so disconnected from how things actually work on the ground here in the States. It’s easy to dream big, but without a practical plan, it’s just wishful thinking.
When kids start first grade, they aren't all coming from the same starting line. You see such a huge range in their prior knowledge, their motivation levels, and just how naturally they pick things up. Honestly, you can tell most of it just by looking at them during enrollment—it’s pretty obvious from day one—but the real picture usually doesn't fully crystallize until we hit the second half of the school year.
It’s honestly such a struggle when you're trying to grade dictations under these circumstances. You have one kid who can already read fluently at five years old, another who can recognize letters at six and a half but isn't reading yet, and then there's the seven-year-old who is still working on just holding a pencil correctly. Despite those massive developmental gaps, they’re all sitting in the same classroom, moving through the exact same curriculum at the same pace, and being graded on the exact same assignment. It feels like a losing battle sometimes.
I’ve always felt that a truly great teacher focuses on rewarding the actual effort and the visible progress each student makes. It’s not just about the final grade on a test; it's about recognizing how far they've come. When you grade based on growth, you aren't killing their drive—you're actually fueling it. It encourages them to keep practicing the areas where they struggle because they know their hard work is being seen and valued.
I think I might have misspoken or maybe there was just a misunderstanding in how I explained things. My intention wasn't to suggest giving a 4 or a 5 just to avoid any disappointment. It’s more about having a way to actually measure how much progress a child has made between October and February.
If he actually exists, then that's something to consider.

Kate Morgan14 said:Honestly, it bugs me that grading isn't even realistic in first grade...
In my little one's class, it’s nothing but straight A's and B's right now...
The teacher explained that she won't hand out any bad grades yet—she doesn't want to crush their spirits right at the start of their schooling. Apparently, they're too emotionally sensitive, and such a massive shift would be too much for them to handle early on...

In practice, this means if they bomb a spelling test or a quiz, she doesn't actually record a failing grade; instead, she just keeps having them retake it until they get it right, and only then does she finally grade it...

The kids end up with zero clue how they're actually performing. They're going to hit a massive wall in second grade when the grades actually reflect reality—I just hope they're prepared for the shock.

I think that sounds absolutely perfect!
I just sent my kid a quick message letting them know that practice isn't over until they can write down a dictation exactly as it's spoken. It’s all about getting those details right!
It’s perfectly fine to tell the team that some people need more practice while others might need a little less. That kind of tailored feedback is actually pretty helpful. What isn't okay, though, is sending out a message that everyone is forced to hit a flat "5" across the board. Everyone works differently, after all.
They really don't have to.
They really need to learn how to write properly.
If they have to write out a dictation several times until they finally get it right, it sends a pretty clear message to the kid: you just need to put in more practice. It’s kind of like when I was learning to play guitar; sometimes you just have to run through those scales over and over until the muscle memory kicks in.

Kate Morgan14 said:Honestly, it bugs me that grading isn't even realistic in first grade...
In my little one's class, it’s nothing but straight A's and B's right now...
The teacher explained that she won't hand out any bad grades yet—she doesn't want to crush their spirits right at the start of their schooling. Apparently, they're too emotionally sensitive, and such a massive shift would be too much for them to handle early on...

In practice, this means if they bomb a spelling test or a quiz, she doesn't actually record a failing grade; instead, she just keeps having them retake it until they get it right, and only then does she finally grade it...

The kids end up with zero clue how they're actually performing. They're going to hit a massive wall in second grade when the grades actually reflect reality—I just hope they're prepared for the shock.

The real problem with this approach is that if the focus stays almost entirely on the grade—or just the grade itself—it sends a pretty bad message to the kids. It basically tells them they’ll be stuck doing the same thing over and over again until they hit that "A" mark. It turns learning into a loop where they're just chasing a score rather than actually getting it.
It’s always such a letdown when things shift like that. You know, when you move into second grade and suddenly those five extra practice opportunities aren't there anymore—now they're expected to just sit down and master it all on their own. Or even worse, when they hit fifth grade and really need to step up and show what they've learned, only to end up with mediocre grades. It can be pretty discouraging.

Paul Scott7 said:The whole reason kids end up in after-school programs should be simple: parents are at work and the local roads are dangerous enough. That’s it. Nothing else.
A friend of mine had this experience where her kid was getting extra homework assigned during first grade. Now they're in third grade—and since everyone in this district goes to the after-school program now—the kid actually gets the work done there instead of bringing it home.
Back when she was in first grade, the instructor would just tell her in the afternoon, "I'm exhausted, I can't even look at you right now."
That kind of apathy is contagious. If the staff doesn't care, the kids won't either.
Think about the contrast. You have some kids whose grandparents act like a private shuttle service, dropping them off and picking them up perfectly on schedule. Then you have the rest of us. You crawl through the door after a brutal shift at the office, completely drained, only to realize the kid still needs help with homework or just needs your attention because they haven't learned how to work independently yet.
My take? You have to carve out dedicated time for that. It’s an obligation, just like everything else waiting for you once the workday is over.

Well, it really depends on what kind of "extra" work we're talking about.
If they're the only kid who needs extra practice on something, and doing it would interrupt everyone else playing on the playground, or participating in drama club, sports, or whatever, then I can see where they're coming from.
If it’s something meant for advanced students, or if it occasionally involves family members—like collecting old family photos or storytelling—then I get that too.
Anything else? Not really (except maybe once a month if someone truly fell behind).

I'm not sure what she should have said to her kid, but personally, I'd start by asking what they did in class that didn't get finished.
If they didn't actually do homework during school hours that day, but were doing something else instead, I'd weigh how important that other activity was. If needed, I'd just reach out to the teacher to check in on the student's well-being or the workload.

If third graders aren't doing homework during school hours, then they don't really have anything to do there. In my opinion, a nine-year-old doesn't need a babysitter.
And if homework is waiting five hours after the bell rings, it definitely makes no sense. It completely kills any good study habits, especially if they worked hard to establish those routines in first and second grade to get things done right after lunch.😕

Paul Scott7 said:Ha. Well, everyone has their own unique "philosophy" when it comes to starting the first grade...
Maybe it actually works out better for the kid in the long run, just like you described... they get that head start on independence... who knows...
No hard feelings... 👍

Most parents drop their kids off at after-school care because a seven-year-old simply can't be left home alone, especially if they live near busy highways where parents don't feel comfortable letting them stay by themselves. And let's be real, a seven-year-old isn't going to suddenly remember to sit down and tackle their homework on their own.

I think it’s pretty unfair to label parents as "bad" or try to make them feel guilty just because they work until 5:00 PM and rely on someone else to help with homework.
Honestly, I’d much rather worry about schoolwork than have preschool teachers being the ones to teach a child how to use a spoon, wipe their nose, or put their shoes away. Those basic hygiene and self-care habits are essential, and in reality, that's often what happens in childcare settings.
Not every parent has the bandwidth or the specific expertise to act as a tutor for school subjects, and they shouldn't have to. But they definitely should be the ones handling those fundamental life skills.
Yet, we see kids picking up so many of these habits in daycare/preschool, often more consistently than at home. It's not necessarily because parents aren't trying—most certainly are—it's just a matter of math: kids spend 8 to 10 hours in a structured environment and maybe only 4 or 5 waking hours with their parents.
At the end of the day, our kids are somewhat institutionalized, regardless of what anyone says about it.
And that's simply because parents have jobs to go to.
I don't think any sane person would quit their job or take extended unpaid leave just to sit with their child and finish homework every single afternoon.

Paul Scott7 said:That’s precisely the point. A parent steps in when necessary, and the child learns that stepping up is their responsibility. But you don't expect a first grader to grasp that overnight. It requires actual engagement, not just adopting a "couldn't care less" attitude.

Quoting Cattley: "Up until yesterday, they were just playing around aimlessly, and then suddenly, we're expected to have them possess time management, a sense of duty, self-discipline to meet deadlines, and the focus to actually remember their homework."

I'm with Frupy on all counts. ☕

Personally, I never said I had a "don't care" attitude.
If someone interpreted my words differently, there isn't much I can do about that.

My stance is simply that homework should be finished during after-school care. I'd love for my child to be able to just relax and enjoy free time or extracurricular activities once they get home around 4:00 PM.
With that in mind, I don't feel the need to micromanage how things were handled at the program; I expect the staff—whom I'm paying for through my taxes and program fees—to do their jobs.
I don't feel guilty about delegating homework to someone else so that I don't have to struggle through it with my child after work.

Of course, I haven't shut the door on my child coming to me to chat about her day, what she learned, or what made her happy. And if she asks for my help because the teacher didn't quite get to it or she felt too shy to ask, I'm there.
I'm not so crazy that I'd tell her, "Stop, I don't care about that." But I won't be going out of my way to grill her about schoolwork, nor do I feel the need to see textbooks spread out all over the table more than I already did back in preschool.
That's just how I plan to set expectations with my child before she starts the after-school program.

urbantinker8 said:oh boy.🤦
it looks like I might actually need to switch over to another language after all.🤷

thankfully, I don't think I'll have to deal with repeating myself much longer.🙏>
so, here goes—just a few more points that matter from my perspective, if anyone cares:
1. occasionally stepping in to help out with homework doesn't necessarily mean someone is acting like a total control freak.😉
2. the way some parents seem completely checked out regarding what their first graders are actually learning in class... I don't know, it feels a little off to me.
3. I am fully in favor of prioritizing downtime, physical activity, hanging out with family, or just letting them go to extracurriculars after school finishes up.
4. and honestly, choosing one doesn't mean you can't do the other; they aren't mutually exclusive.
5. I can't help but wonder how much time parents are actually spending engaging with their kids after work or school, versus just sitting there in front of the TV, a computer, or a book or whatever else.
6. It strikes me as pretty wild that a school would view having a psychologist on staff as a "necessary evil." If we're talking about necessary evils, then after-school programs are probably higher on that list, since they mostly exist so kids aren't just left home alone half the day—helping with homework is really just a side benefit. And I think parents should be upfront about that with their kids: you're in after-school care because Mom and Dad are working until 5:00. Period.

over and out.

Homework is an assignment given by the teacher to the student, not to the parent or the after-school instructor.
The whole point of homework is to practice what was covered in class that day or to finish something that didn't get completed during school hours. The goal is to encourage independent learning.
As for whether the homework is finished, that’s for the person who assigned it to check.
Why do we need two extra layers of supervision? What kind of message are we sending to the kid? 🤔

Based on the forgetting curve, homework really should be done as soon as possible after the lesson. It’s perfectly fine if a parent who works until 1:00 or 2:00 PM picks their child up after lunch and encourages them to tackle their work at their study desk (maybe even sitting with them).
However, most parents who rely on after-school programs work until 4:00 or 5:00 PM. It would be completely unreasonable to expect them to force their child to wait until late at night to do homework after they've already spent five exhausting hours at school.
And if parents are being "called out" or made to feel guilty for not micromanaging their child's assignments, 🥱
then doing homework during after-school care isn't a benefit at all🤦—it's just part of the curriculum. Why shift that entire responsibility onto the parents?

As for the school system itself, with the current curriculum, I might consider it a necessary evil, but I have never been against the idea of gaining knowledge or studying.
Quite the opposite.
And I am not an uninterested parent; I just care about things beyond my own child. I don't feel the need to recite every single reading passage or obsess over specific dates in American history that don't affect my daily life.

A parent who is truly engaged in their child's life will stay informed about their progress without needing to flip through every drawing or scrutinize every single assignment every single day.
On the other hand, a parent who is genuinely indifferent won't suddenly become interested just because a teacher tells them they have to check the homework—and that's usually when the kid starts hating school.
There are also parents who simply don't have the bandwidth to sit down and study with their kids. For these children, after-school programs can be a huge win because they get dedicated time to actually finish their homework.
(Though, let's be honest, working parents usually pick these programs more often, and sometimes they’re the only ones who can even snag a spot if there's a waitlist.)

For years now, social services and various non-profits have been organizing supervised study sessions—often through community centers or youth outreach programs—for kids in families facing real hardships. These are situations where the kids haven't been removed from the home, but it's clear the parents either can't help with the schoolwork or just don't have a quiet place for the child to focus at home.
The goal is to support the child without pointing fingers at the parents. Instead of blaming them, social workers, speech therapists, or specialists step in to guide the child through the learning process and help them become more independent.
To me, it doesn't really matter who provides that guidance. What matters is that by the time a kid hits third grade—or fifth at the latest—they understand that school and homework are their own responsibility. They need to know they have to show up, do the work, ask for help when they're stuck, and take ownership of their results, even if things are tough at home or their parents aren't able to step in.
At the end of the day, school is the student's job and their responsibility.

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I can't quite make sense of that one! It looks like you might have sent a single word by mistake, or maybe it was just a typo. If you were trying to start a conversation or ask a question, feel free to drop it below—I'm all ears and happy to chat!Honestly, you definitely need a translator! I have no idea where you got the impression from my previous posts that talking about schoolwork or helping out with homework occasionally means we're cutting out physical activity, trips to the park, or heading to the local pool. I never said a parent *has* to do all of that, let alone at the expense of staying active. Every single day. Writing with my little one? Honestly, it’s such a blast! It might seem like a simple thing, but we have the best time diving into it together. Whether we're scribbling messy stories or trying to make sense of letters, it always turns into a little adventure. It really is just pure fun. Every single assignment. Should we just go ahead and give it one more thorough double-check?🤔🤦

It honestly breaks my heart to read this, especially coming from a parent—and one who’s actually involved in the education system, no less.

It’s also kind of like how people view school—as this necessary evil you just have to get through.😕

Feel free to bring in your lawyers and anyone else who agrees with you at this point. Honestly, I’m still sitting here struggling to wrap my head around most of your takes.🕺

Hey, I can totally switch over to English or even German if that makes things easier! And honestly, thanks for quoting me again—I really don't want to be kept in the loop about every single little thing they teach in school. By the way, I’m a bit confused, though... what exactly are you feeling sad about? Or is it more like being totally overwhelmed?
I mean, it's not like I'm some total control freak or anything! 😕

I didn't mean to imply that I don't want to stay in the loop regarding what’s happening at school; it’s more that I don't feel the need to follow every single detail of the curriculum. It's just one of those things where I prefer to focus on the big picture rather than getting bogged down in every minor lesson.
I see a pretty significant difference there.
For me, it really comes down to accountability. I think it's so important for kids to learn how to follow through on their responsibilities early on. It’s one of those life lessons that stays with you forever.
Honestly, I couldn’t care less whether she had six math problems or eight to tackle for homework, or how many rows she was supposed to fill in with that letter K. At the end of the day, all that matters is whether she actually got it done.
It’s really not my place to judge whether this is done properly, neatly, or if it’s top-tier work versus just being mediocre. That kind of assessment should be left to a professional, like an elementary school teacher.

I honestly struggle to see the point of paying for after-school programs when you look at the actual toll it takes on a kid. Think about it: they spend eight hours in class, only to head home and lug around a backpack that’s easily 10% of their body weight—which we all know isn't great for their posture or spinal health. Then, once they finally get through the door, the cycle starts all over again with homework and projects assigned by three different teachers. It feels like such an exhausting loop for them.
If a kid gets home around 4:00 or 5:00 PM, they really only have about three or four hours left in their day. Between hanging out, playing, grabbing dinner, and winding down for bed—assuming a 9:00 PM bedtime to make sure they’re actually rested by 7:30 AM—it all happens pretty fast. I remember when my kids were younger, those few hours always seemed to fly by in the blink of an eye!
If there's still an extra three or four hours left in the schedule, I honestly think we should use that time for something more productive—like sports practice, acting classes, or maybe some language tutoring. If people are interested and it works out, I’d much rather focus on those kinds of skills. To be honest, I don't really see the point in spending that much time sitting down with my kid to go over homework and writing assignments when we could be doing something so much more engaging.

At the end of the day, how do parents actually frame after-school programs to their kids? When you're explaining why they'll be spending those extra hours at the center, how do you pitch what they'll actually be doing there? I'm curious if parents usually focus on the specific tasks they need to tackle or if they emphasize the importance of following the instructor's lead. Also, can the kids actually ask for help when they get stuck, or is it more of a "figure it out" vibe? I’ve also wondered about the boundaries regarding schoolwork—like, does the instructor have the authority to check over homework, or can they actually mandate that the kids sit down and get it finished before they head home?

I’ve been reading some comments from parents who seem really upset that I’m holding them accountable, and honestly, it’s a bit frustrating. There seems to be this mindset where people expect all the homework to magically get finished at school, when in reality, making sure assignments are completed is a fundamental part of parenting. It is perfectly normal for a kid to bring their textbooks and notebooks home. I mean, look at it this way: if I decided to tell my child, "Hey, don't bother listening to your teacher because I know better," then suddenly I'd be the one responsible for managing everything they missed. It shouldn't fall on me to police every single thing they were supposed to learn in class. We have to work together as a team to make sure they actually succeed.
By that logic, I could basically tell my kid they have a free pass to make a complete mess during "homeschooling" hours and demand to go outside and play for four hours straight just because they're studying at home with me. It’s a slippery slope!
Are you going to call me out for having an unruly kid who interrupts everyone else's homework? Because she’s actually just sitting there doing her schoolwork at home.
I intentionally presented two extremes here, because I’m honestly confused—if a kid is staying in after-school care, why should they still have to finish their homework once they get home?
Plus, I’m struggling with what kind of message I’m actually sending my child about their after-school instructor if I tell them we’ll just do the homework together later. Doesn't that imply, "I don't really trust your teacher; I know better, and you'll learn more if you just wait for me"?

Look, regardless of how I feel about the current state of the American school system, I truly believe that if I tell my daughter she needs to get her homework done during after-school hours, I’m sending her a positive message. I'm telling her that I believe in her abilities and that her schoolwork is her own responsibility. It’s about teaching her accountability and ownership, while also teaching her to trust the professionals I leave her with after class—people who will be there to help if she hits a wall.
And of course, it’s about building good habits. I want her to learn to tackle her tasks early so she has plenty of time to just play later on.
It’s also practical for when she moves up to third or fourth grade and starts heading home around 11:45 AM. If she knocks out her work right away, she won't be stuck waiting for me to get home at 4:25 PM before she can finally go out and play.

urbantinker8 said:I guess you just completely missed the mark on that whole football thing.😉

I suppose my main point is that a parent shouldn't really be taking a stance like, "I honestly couldn't care less about your homework; just get it done during after-school programs, have the instructors check it, and leave your backpack at school because I have much more important things to worry about."

I guess you definitely wouldn't want to do that right before the first graders arrive, maybe.

I guess it isn't really about whether a parent actually knows the material or if they're totally lost when it comes to the curriculum, I suppose. It’s probably more complicated than that.🤦

So, can someone actually hold an opinion on this?
Since school runs from 8 to 4 anyway, why not just knock out all that homework while you're there? That way, once you get home, we can head to the pool, hit up the park, catch a movie with some popcorn, or do whatever else makes you happy!
Is it okay to feel like there's some shared responsibility here? I honestly think it should be a joint effort between the student and the teacher to make sure homework gets finished during after-school care. That way, kids aren't lugging heavy textbooks back and forth every single day, and they can actually just relax and switch their brains off at the playground around 4:00 PM.

What kind of attitude is that? "Oh, poor little thing, you have to be at school from 8 to 4 because I just don't trust you enough to stay home alone from noon until I get back, and then once we're both home, we'll tackle the homework together." Honestly, that's a bit much.
I know an eight-hour school day feels like way too much, but it’s really important to me that we sit down together to tackle this homework. I want to make sure I'm right there to guide you through it—it's not exactly the after-school program teacher's job to manage your studies like that.
What exactly should a kid be doing for four hours in after-school care?
Even as someone who places a huge emphasis on staying active, I honestly find it hard to wrap my head around the idea of kids "structured playing" for four hours straight—especially when the city is footing the bill for it.
I completely agree. It feels totally normal to me that my kid gets some extra help with their homework from the after-school instructor. If they didn't quite grasp something during class, having someone there to walk them through it makes such a huge difference. Honestly, that’s exactly why I pay for the program—for that extra bit of support.

Setting aside all the formal psychology textbooks for a moment, I still find myself thinking about how my teachers raised us. Growing up, the rule was pretty set in stone: homework always comes before playtime. In my school, we had a specific routine—for two of the grades, we stayed in after-school care, while the others headed straight home. But regardless of where you were, the drill was the same once you sat down to work: wash your hands, eat your lunch, and then get those assignments done. It was just the way things were done!
When exactly did this become the norm? From what I can gather, the expectation is that teachers should just wait around for highly motivated parents to show up after work—somewhere between 4:30 and 6:30 PM—to sit down with their kids and tackle homework together. It’s honestly a little disheartening to see some parents treating this like it's the teacher's responsibility to manage.
My parents really expected that from me.
While I was heading over to the community center,
On my way home from class today, I was just thinking...

By the way, most of the extracurricular activities—things like classes at the Lincoln Center, sports leagues, or language programs—don't really kick off until after 5:00 PM. It’s designed that way so working parents can actually pick their kids up. But it does make you wonder about the logistics. If a kid doesn't get all their homework done during after-school care and has to finish it at home, when do they actually have time to head out to these activities? And more importantly, when do they find the space to just hang out and bond with us parents or catch up with their friends?

@miss daisy, I really appreciate you stepping up to act as my lawyer here, but what I actually need right now is a translator. 😬
If you think being a "good parent" means obsessively micromanaging every single page of a textbook, then I’m happy to say I’ve officially checked out. I’ve always believed that education should be about sparking curiosity, not just checking boxes on a standardized test. My kid's learning journey isn't about me hovering over their shoulder to make sure they've memorized every specific fact—it's about them actually enjoying the process. So, if interest in parenting is measured by how much control you exert over schoolwork, consider me proudly uninterested!
Honestly, I feel like school has become way too much about just memorizing textbooks and regurgitating facts. It feels repetitive. Plus, I really don't see the point in my kid having to work through everything three different times—first with the teacher, then again with the after-school instructor, and then finally sitting down at home with Mom and Dad to go over it all over again. It just seems like overkill.

It’s a completely different ballgame when you’re dealing with a child who has specific developmental challenges or special needs.
We’re just talking about the average kid here.
If a kid walks into a classroom where everyone else is already reading, they can catch up incredibly fast just by being around those readers—provided they have the right foundation. It really comes down to three things: having solid cognitive skills, being emotionally and socially ready for the jump, and, most importantly, having two teachers who are actually fully committed to their roles. I’ve seen this work wonders when there's support at home, too. A simple routine like spending just 15 minutes every night reading a picture book borrowed from the local library makes a world of difference. It keeps the momentum going!
What’s going to happen with his school books from home study?
Does math really have to be limited to those repetitive worksheets from the school portal? I feel like we could just play a game of Sorry! and practice addition on the fly, or even stop by a local bakery and figure out how much two croissants cost and how much change the cashier should give back from a $6.75?

Honestly, spending an hour a week checking in on school stuff is plenty. We shouldn't let our entire lives revolve around the school calendar—as long as we're still staying genuinely engaged with how our kids are doing and progressing overall.

Kate Morgan14 said:Personally, I love that they don't have to lug their backpacks home if they’re staying for after-school care... everything gets done there—homework included—so there's zero point in hauling that bag back and forth. If she needs extra practice in the evening, it's just reading a book or some worksheets I print out from the web. Then, over the weekend, I just check her backpack, books, and notebooks to stay on top of what she's learning and how she's progressing.

I think you're conflating two different groups here—kids in after-school programs versus those who aren't. In our program, all the work is handled on-site. Once next year rolls around and she isn't enrolled in the program anymore, she'll be bringing her bag home and doing homework independently—though, of course, I'll be right there to supervise and help whenever necessary.

In that case, absolutely!
I think that sounds great 👍

Call me NASA, because I honestly don't feel the need to stay informed about every single little thing being taught in class.
Simply put, my brain doesn't have the bandwidth for all that data.
I'm a bit older now, work too much, and there are other things on my mind.

Whatever my kid tells me (if she feels like sharing), I'm totally fine with that.
Even back in preschool, she'd tell me about her day, show me something, or I'd catch a glimpse of something on the parent portal or an individual progress report. As long as I can see my child is making progress, that's what matters most to me.
And plenty of stuff goes completely unnoticed by me anyway.
That's basically how I approach school, too.

Yep, call me irresponsible.
I know, I know—comparing elementary school to preschool is a bit of a stretch.

(On a side note, my boss still micromanages everything my kids do, from starting school all the way through college 🥳 even though she's a liberal arts major and he's more of a STEM guy 🙂)

Karen Richardson3 said:I feel like we’ve already covered this ground—yeah, sure, help with the homework, help them study, basically spoon-feed them through school just to inflate their grades beyond their actual ability. Because clearly, that’s the foolproof way to guarantee a successful life later on, right? You know, when they’re 29 years old, sitting there unemployed with a degree from some overpriced private college, just waiting for their parents to pull some strings and land them a cushy government job in some mid-sized city, maybe something like an "Assistant Director of Sustainable Urban Development Initiatives" or whatever trendy buzzword is floating around the local council these days. That's how the script goes, isn't it? 😁

On top of all that, you really can't tell what's going on anymore; the curriculum today is lightyears more intense than anything we had to deal with back in the day. And look, I get it, kids nowadays are sharper than ever—like little geniuses—but if you try to connect those two facts, the math just doesn't add up. 🙂

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You're totally off base here, but I just couldn't help myself!

Paul Scott7 said:Exactly. That’s part of the equation. We all finish a workday completely drained, so you don't just walk through the door and relax. You have to get the kids outside, run errands, handle the grocery shopping—it never ends. Even helping with homework requires active parenting. At least for first graders, until they actually develop a sense of discipline. Honestly, I find it presumptuous to expect a teacher to wrap everything up by noon and then act like parents should have zero clue what their child is actually studying or doing in class. And sure, you have to let them learn to manage their own responsibilities, but you also have to guide them toward that independence. By fifth grade, if someone is still asking you if your kid finished their homework, it’s already too late for those kinds of questions.

Homework is the kid's job, not the parent's.
If the child is already in an after-school program (mostly because they can't just be left home alone or wandering the neighborhood from 11:30 to 4:30), it seems logical to me that they should finish their homework there at school.

I’m actually hoping they’ll be allowed to leave their books at school, just like we used to. Those backpacks aren't exactly light, and I can't imagine carrying their gear for them!

When choosing an after-school program, my biggest priority is physical activity and getting the kids some fresh air (assuming the city air is actually fresh!). I don't want them sitting around all day.
Actually, I’m a little worried because I heard some of the after-school instructors aren't big fans of "unstructured outdoor time," and apparently, some parents support that too. It sounds like they try to cram academic activities into that "structured" time, or even punish the whole class by keeping them inside until everyone finishes their homework...

Anyway, why am I stressing myself out about this a whole year in advance? 🤔
And I guess that big education reform from 2016 is just going to roll right along, and everything will magically turn out perfect. 🙂

analogseal18 said:I am not a religious person.
Is there not a certain weight to the tradition of gift-giving? To me, the entire purpose of such an act should be to bestow something of genuine substance upon a godparent—something of lasting value that serves as a constant, meaningful reminder of their role. When my peers were going through their confirmations, the standard was almost always a Bible paired with a small piece of gold jewelry.
One might consider more contemporary, albeit significantly more expensive, gestures; I have heard of groups organizing joint trips for the confirmands and their godparents to visit Rome and the Vatican. Such an experience would surely remain etched in one's memory forever.

That sounds amazing to me.
And honestly, it doesn't have to be tied specifically to the ceremony.
I think it’s a great gift idea for any godparent, maybe even for a milestone birthday during those teenage years...
Plus, it doesn't even have to be a physical object; it could just be an extra chance to hang out and bond (meaning everyone covers their own way, or the parents handle the costs for the godchild).

What is the actual point of giving gifts during the Sacraments anyway?
Given the spiritual nature of the sacrament, shouldn't the ceremony itself be the gift?
Shouldn't being chosen as a godparent be an honor in its own right, where the child feels lucky to have gained a lifelong mentor through that bond?
And what’s the goal of having a physical keepsake—like gold or jewelry—to mark receiving the Holy Spirit?

I don't mean to offend anyone, but honestly, this whole spectacle feels incredibly tacky. It really can't get any more superficial.
It isn't just about the parents, either. The godparents who encourage it and the church, which doesn't focus enough on spiritual significance over material wealth (though, maybe I just have too high expectations from them 😂), all play a part.

To start, if someone wants to be confirmed, they have to attend religious education classes regularly for a year. I don't have an issue with the classes themselves, but I do with the coercion. To me, faith should feel like a genuine desire and a joy, not something you're forced into.
Then there's the requirement to attend Mass regularly—and people actually track attendance with little checkmarks! I always assumed families did this because they genuinely enjoyed attending together, not because they were trying to rack up points to stay in good standing.
And finally, we have the full designer outfits, the overindulgence at parties, the parades, and the sheer kitsch—not to mention gifts that often cost more than a month's salary.

It wouldn't hurt to talk to kids about the seven deadly sins before their confirmation. 😍
But wait, aren't those topics covered in the prep work? And yet, everyone seems to go ahead and violate them anyway, along with their parents and godparents.
Isn't that just pure hypocrisy? 😕

I have nothing against celebrating milestones or throwing parties, but my concern is that when I ask kids what confirmation actually means to them, most of them are totally clueless.
Most say they just "have to" do it, or that they need it if they want to get married in a church one day. 😬
When I ask about the gifts, the common response is, "Well, they're at that age, it's normal."
No, it isn't normal.
wanderinggardener12, that's a lovely list of ideas for birthdays, graduations, or competitions 👍, but none of that relates to what the sacrament is actually meant to be.
It becomes especially disconnected when people choose a godparent based solely on what they can afford to buy.

George Peterson said:I honestly don't know. I’m feeling pretty ambivalent about the whole grading thing right now. For me, they just serve as a rough guide to show where she stands with her current lessons. Sadly, tomorrow, those numbers will start defining her future. It seems our society just can't function without metrics and data points. As for how they impact her—it's hard to say. Honestly, a smiley face sticker seems to excite her more than an A. At least, that's my impression, though she doesn't exactly seem to be grinding for extra credit. And as for developing speed, responsibility, or discipline through testing? I have no clue how that works. How do you teach a child to keep their word? How do you teach them to honor a deal? Right now, she only practices what she wants to do, not what she actually needs to do. She only does the "necessary" stuff when I'm hovering over her, which is exhausting—constantly chasing, pushing, and micromanaging. Eventually, she'll have to figure out how to navigate this system on her own.

Both smileys and grades are just external feedback.
It really turns into a mess if we rely solely on outside validation (like what you mentioned about our society being obsessed with grades).

Real work habits come from doing what needs to be done every single day, regardless of whether someone gives you a pat on the back or not.
You do it because you need to survive.
To function daily (I mean, they're at an age where it's fine to follow their passions, but they also need to learn to tackle the chores or tasks they dislike—even when it's boring, hard, or just plain annoying).
I don't think motivating through control and grading makes sense; they need to reach a point of internal realization regarding why something is meaningful or useful.
I know some kids are driven by a smiley face, an A, or a compliment to finish something they find tedious, but in the long run, I see much more value in teaching them: "Look, I know this is boring, but you have to get it done because it builds skills you'll need later for this or that."

That's why I think grading things like how well they write the letter 'A' or how they join letters together to make a word is pointless.
Seriously, she’s going to need those literacy skills for the rest of her life.
You don't learn to read and write just to hear someone say "great job"; you learn it so you can study other subjects and communicate with people.
Speed comes with practice (you could give her examples from her own life, showing her how she got faster at something just by practicing, and explaining that being quicker gives her more free time for other things).

I truly believe people learn to keep their word by seeing others—people they respect—do the same, and by observing that the people around them are responsible.
That's a real "external" motivator: seeing how others treat you and deciding what kind of person you want to be toward others.
An 'A' or a 'C' isn't going to make someone more responsible, and especially not the fear of a failing grade.

northernmaker7 said:Some members of my family were part of that generation where numerical grades were scrapped up through 5th grade. Look what happened. When they hit middle school and instead of smiley faces and hearts, an instructor from England handed them a D or an F, it was more of a shock than if they had been getting low marks since 1st grade. Honestly, it was brutal for the kids.

We aren't some wealthy nation like Finland. Life is hard, and not everyone can afford an ideal 9-to-5 schedule that supports family life. There are people in this country who don't see their children for two or three days at a time because of shift work. And what now? No one is lecturing them; they chose those jobs themselves. It isn't that simple.

They also need, without all the heavy philosophy, a clear and straightforward system to track their children's progress.

Here is a small example from my kids' school.

If I haven't mentioned the moment when a teacher leaves the classroom after school (talking about elementary school) and tells parents what needs to be brought, prepared, organized, or baked for TOMORROW, then I am screwed.

Specifically, my shift work makes it impossible for me to react between 11:25 PM tonight and 8:00 AM tomorrow to prepare product boxes, toilet paper rolls, buy a specific wide brush, or whatever else is required.

And now everything depends on what kind of kid you have.

If you have a motivated child with straight As, they might take charge of their own responsibilities and things work fine.

If you have a distracted or uninterested child, it creates unnecessary chaos that doesn't actually help my child learn to be prepared.

I will say it again: this kind of nonsense doesn't bother me much in middle school, where you can be a bit firmer, but for grades 1 through 4, such ridiculousness truly drove me crazy. 🙂

As for whether schools have decent internet systems for posting basic notifications online? There is simply no interest, time, or willpower for it.

After significant resistance, we finally managed to get a teacher to post updates on a bulletin board so I can check at 6:00 PM what is needed for tomorrow or the day after. It’s better that way; even if I have to check the board daily, I don't have to go insane trying to check my phone constantly while at work.

You can't really know if things would have turned out differently.
It might have been just as tough as it is for kids today who breeze through the first four grades with straight As, only to hit 5th grade and suddenly struggle with Cs and Ds. It’s not just about the grading, though—it's the transition. They go from having one teacher who looks after them in a single classroom to dealing with 11 different professors across 9 different rooms, and it takes those teachers months just to memorize the students' names.

What I mean is, 5th grade brings massive changes regardless, and I wouldn't say they need those easy grades in the early years just to soften the blow of such a huge shift.

northernmaker7 said:Some members of my family were part of that generation where numerical grades were scrapped up through 5th grade. Look what happened. When they hit middle school and instead of smiley faces and hearts, an instructor from England handed them a D or an F, it was more of a shock than if they had been getting low marks since 1st grade. Honestly, it was brutal for the kids.

We aren't some wealthy nation like Finland. Life is hard, and not everyone can afford an ideal 9-to-5 schedule that supports family life. There are people in this country who don't see their children for two or three days at a time because of shift work. And what now? No one is lecturing them; they chose those jobs themselves. It isn't that simple.

They also need, without all the heavy philosophy, a clear and straightforward system to track their children's progress.

Here is a small example from my kids' school.

If I haven't mentioned the moment when a teacher leaves the classroom after school (talking about elementary school) and tells parents what needs to be brought, prepared, organized, or baked for TOMORROW, then I am screwed.

Specifically, my shift work makes it impossible for me to react between 11:25 PM tonight and 8:00 AM tomorrow to prepare product boxes, toilet paper rolls, buy a specific wide brush, or whatever else is required.

And now everything depends on what kind of kid you have.

If you have a motivated child with straight As, they might take charge of their own responsibilities and things work fine.

If you have a distracted or uninterested child, it creates unnecessary chaos that doesn't actually help my child learn to be prepared.

I will say it again: this kind of nonsense doesn't bother me much in middle school, where you can be a bit firmer, but for grades 1 through 4, such ridiculousness truly drove me crazy. 🙂

As for whether schools have decent internet systems for posting basic notifications online? There is simply no interest, time, or willpower for it.

After significant resistance, we finally managed to get a teacher to post updates on a bulletin board so I can check at 6:00 PM what is needed for tomorrow or the day after. It’s better that way; even if I have to check the board daily, I don't have to go insane trying to check my phone constantly while at work.

I agree that parents need a transparent way to monitor their kids' progress, but traditional letter grades aren't the answer.
Aside from being prone to a teacher's subjective opinion, they also lead to constant arguing, negotiating, and trying to talk your way into a better grade...

It looks like some of your posts were moved over to the education reform section
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urbantinker8 said:You do realize you're kind of in the minority here, right?

And as for this whole idea of descriptive grading—if my memory serves me correctly, back in those golden days of the 80s, people didn't exactly fail out of school because of a lack of written commentary.
I mean, we probably don't need to add more bureaucracy to the mix, especially when we already have maybe three kids in the entire country failing a grade every year.🤦

You could always provide detailed, descriptive feedback alongside a standard numerical grade, couldn't you? It seems like a reasonable compromise.

But if we went ahead and scrapped numerical grading entirely, both here and in the current system, I imagine things would just descend into total chaos.

I am.
Honestly, I get it. It feels like most people don't give this any thought at all.

I haven't received any text to rewrite yet! Please provide the post you'd like me to work on, and I'll get right to crafting it into a fresh, American-style piece while keeping that calm, upbeat persona intact. kaže:
When it comes to descriptive grading, if my memory serves me right, back in those wonderful days of the 80s, you couldn't actually fail a grade because of it. I remember my own school days being much more about encouragement than strict numbers.
At this rate, it feels like we’re just one more hurdle away from a system where even the three kids who fail a grade nationwide every year would somehow manage to pass.🤦

I’m not entirely sure if failing a grade was actually possible back then, but why would you assume that getting rid of letter grades would automatically mean losing the "right" to fail a grade? Just because that was how things worked in the past doesn't mean it has to stay that way.🤔
It’s getting pretty tough to navigate grading these days. Between dealing with sections 4, 7, 10, and 12, plus a mountain of new diagnoses that didn't even exist a few years ago, it feels like a lot. It seems like some people are using those paperwork requirements as a way to shield themselves, which ends up inflating grades—even for students who aren't quite hitting that "A" level. It definitely changes the classroom dynamic.

urbantinker8 said:You do realize you're kind of in the minority here, right?

And as for this whole idea of descriptive grading—if my memory serves me correctly, back in those golden days of the 80s, people didn't exactly fail out of school because of a lack of written commentary.
I mean, we probably don't need to add more bureaucracy to the mix, especially when we already have maybe three kids in the entire country failing a grade every year.🤦

You could always provide detailed, descriptive feedback alongside a standard numerical grade, couldn't you? It seems like a reasonable compromise.

But if we went ahead and scrapped numerical grading entirely, both here and in the current system, I imagine things would just descend into total chaos.

I honestly think things would just descend into total chaos. Parents would be constantly hovering over teachers, unsure of exactly what they should be asking for or how to handle the communication. It’s one of those situations where too much uncertainty just leads to everyone feeling overwhelmed.
I honestly can't tell if they actually have the best grades in their class or not, but I do know one thing: they’re definitely going to be bragging about it to everyone in town.

I remember one evening back when I was living in Seattle, just sitting on my porch as the sun started to dip behind the mountains. There’s something about that transition from dusk to total darkness that always feels like a reset button for me. It’s quiet, it’s still, and it gives you a second to actually breathe after a long day of running around. Does anyone else find that specific time of night particularly peaceful, or am I just a sucker for a good sunset? kaže:
It all sounds wonderful and beautiful in theory, but if you don’t have a first grader yet, I think you might hit a bit of a reality check once they actually start school. You quickly realize how much is expected of you as a parent just to keep up with everything your child needs for their classes and daily school life. It can be quite a whirlwind!
I think it all really comes down to what you and your child actually expect from school. It makes me wonder—what are your expectations when it comes to grades? Do you even have any specific goals in mind? For instance, would you be happy with just a passing average if it meant you didn't have to spend every evening at the kitchen table helping them tackle homework? Personally, I’m not obsessed with straight A's. They aren't a priority for me, and honestly, given my child's personality, I know exactly what kind of challenges we’re going to face once they start their school years. That being said, I'm definitely not planning on sitting on the sidelines. If things get tough, I’ll be right there working alongside them to help them grasp the material. My goal isn't just to chase high marks; I just want to make sure they actually understand what they're learning so they feel confident and capable.

I’m honestly not stressing about my grades this time around. I've realized that focusing on the actual learning is way more important than just chasing a specific number on a transcript.
Honestly, I don't really feel the need to bring it up. Whether I'm grabbing coffee with friends, hanging out on the forums, or just sitting at my desk at work, I don't feel any pressure to brag about it. It’s just not something I feel the need to broadcast.
I really want to get to a place where I’m genuinely proud of what she achieves on her own terms, rather than just measuring her success against my own expectations. To be honest, I think part of my struggle is that I don't even have a clear vision of what I actually want for her myself. It's a bit of a learning process for me!
At the end of the day, my biggest priority is just seeing her healthy, happy, and genuinely content. I want her to actually look forward to heading off to school every morning. It doesn't have to be this huge, over-the-top excitement, but I definitely don't want her waking up with that knot in her stomach because she's dreading a big exam, a certain teacher, or some drama with her classmates.
I really believe people need a genuine look at what they actually know versus where they’re still struggling. It should be about fair, honest feedback—something like, "You’ve totally mastered this concept, but you still need to practice this specific skill or dive deeper into this topic." We need to move away from those vague, unhelpful comments like "you just need to try harder for an A" or giving someone a passing grade just to boost their morale or acknowledge their effort. Real progress comes from knowing exactly where you stand.
Honestly, I feel like this falls more on the teachers than the parents. Of course we notice things about our kids—that’s just part of being a parent. We see if they're reading faster, if their handwriting is getting a bit messy, or if they're still relying on their fingers for basic addition. Those are everyday observations you make at home regardless of school. But when it comes to actually mastering the curriculum and keeping up with what’s being taught in the classroom? In my book, that responsibility lies squarely with the teacher.

I’ve been thinking about how much I love those quiet moments right as the sun dips below the horizon. There's something so peaceful about that transition from a busy day to a calm evening. It always reminds me of those summer nights growing up in the suburbs, just sitting on the porch watching the fireflies start to come out. It’s such a great time to just decompress and reset for tomorrow. kaže:
I feel like kids today are missing out on those hands-on experiences that used to be such a staple when we were heading off to school. I remember back in my day, we weren't just staring at screens; we actually got to engage with the world in ways that felt much more tangible. It’s a bit of a bummer to see that practical, real-world connection fading away.

You know, when kids start school, they hit this massive hurdle where you realize just how much every single child differs from the next. Whether it’s social skills, emotional maturity, or how they handle academics, those individual gaps are huge. It’s one of those things that becomes incredibly obvious once they step into a classroom for the first time.
And honestly, what some people seem to miss is that this responsibility falls squarely on the parents, not the kids. Of course, it feels a bit naive to expect a parent to suddenly step up and take charge overnight if they haven't been doing so already—unless there’s a direct intervention. Ideally, you'd want the school to work alongside both the parent and the child to bridge that gap. And if things look like actual neglect? That's when Child Protective Services needs to get involved to ensure everyone stays safe.
It really comes down to all that extra stuff parents have to tackle alongside schoolwork—assuming they even have the energy or the headspace left at the end of the day!
I think we might be looking at this a little differently. Based on what my kids are already picking up at home, I don't really think Summer, myself, or the other moms who aren't interested in doing schoolwork with our kids fall into that specific category. It seems pretty clear to us—and the kids definitely seem to get it too—that once they head back to school, they’re going to be hit with all those specific concepts you mentioned.

Going back to the main point here... I honestly don't see the point in grading so much of the first-grade curriculum (and really, most of the lower elementary grades, too).
A kid either knows how to read or they don't.
They can do addition or subtraction, or they can't.
They know the days of the week, or they don't.
They know the parts of the day, or they don't.
They know their multiplication tables, or they don't.
Don't give me that talk about needing to grade everything on an A through F scale.
Sure, maybe they hadn't mastered it by February, but they got there by May—and once they've learned it, they know it for life.
What good does a letter grade actually do them? 😕

Of course, we should encourage them to do better or work faster. We definitely need to point out mistakes, help them understand why they’re making them, and see how frequent they are—like, are they rushing, are they just moving too slowly, or are they struggling to spot errors? I'm certain that any assignment can be improved if we provide clear guidance on what needs work, the best way to tackle it, and who might be able to step in and help.
But we shouldn't be turning the classroom into a competition over who gets an A versus a B, or trying to motivate kids using "lower" grades as a threat.
Kids who are just two points shy of an A might be missing that mark for totally different reasons. In one standardized test or a quick mid-term, all that effort and hard work can just vanish. That matters, especially for those little ones just starting out.
It feels to me like we spend way too much energy arguing over grades and not nearly enough focusing on a child's strengths, their weaknesses, and what they still need to learn. What is the actual purpose of all this studying if we aren't looking at the bigger picture of why we need this knowledge?
To be fair, there are plenty of teachers out there who provide amazing feedback alongside a grade, but there are just as many who simply hand out a letter and call it a day.
In those cases, progress is measured strictly by numbers.

Adam Evans62 said:Just lurking here for a bit... purely from a professional standpoint (I'm a teacher) and gathering intel for next year when I'll be back to teaching first graders after a four-year break.

To be honest, I'm nervous 😛. After all this time, facing a whole new batch of kids and parents... getting to know them, seeing how they "operate," figuring out what they actually want and need, and then trying to squeeze all that into the standard state curriculum is a massive responsibility and exhausting work.

Especially since I see every year that grades are becoming more and more important to parents (and I’m specifically talking about parents, because in about 10% of my classes, the kids are the ones who actually give a damn) while they put in less effort or simply don't know how to prepare their child at home before they even step foot in school.

So you end up with a 7.5-year-old in your class who doesn't know a single color or shape 😲, can't list their family members, can't explain the route from home to school, can't spot seasonal changes in nature, or identify basic animal genders/species... basically, they can't connect concepts and real-life events logically. That is the responsibility and duty of the parent or guardian—not to teach them to count perfectly to twenty or read flawlessly (they'll learn that in school), but to build that foundation. Of course, a kid like that will end up at a disadvantage compared to others and get bad grades—which isn't their fault—and they'll likely lose any drive or motivation to learn.

I'm against letter grades or numerical grading in the first four grades (especially for electives and social studies), but arguing about it is pointless because that's just how the current laws are set up 🙄

But seriously, I have to appeal to parents: spend more time preparing your child for an independent life and learning. Don't just dump everything on preschool, school, or the TV... every year we get worse generations because they've lost the ability to connect what they learn in the classroom to the real world.

Well, we can still dream about it!
I actually love discussing this, and I am soooo happy to see a teacher sharing this perspective 👍

Adam Evans62 said:Just lurking here for a bit... purely from a professional standpoint (I'm a teacher) and gathering intel for next year when I'll be back to teaching first graders after a four-year break.

To be honest, I'm nervous 😛. After all this time, facing a whole new batch of kids and parents... getting to know them, seeing how they "operate," figuring out what they actually want and need, and then trying to squeeze all that into the standard state curriculum is a massive responsibility and exhausting work.

Especially since I see every year that grades are becoming more and more important to parents (and I’m specifically talking about parents, because in about 10% of my classes, the kids are the ones who actually give a damn) while they put in less effort or simply don't know how to prepare their child at home before they even step foot in school.

So you end up with a 7.5-year-old in your class who doesn't know a single color or shape 😲, can't list their family members, can't explain the route from home to school, can't spot seasonal changes in nature, or identify basic animal genders/species... basically, they can't connect concepts and real-life events logically. That is the responsibility and duty of the parent or guardian—not to teach them to count perfectly to twenty or read flawlessly (they'll learn that in school), but to build that foundation. Of course, a kid like that will end up at a disadvantage compared to others and get bad grades—which isn't their fault—and they'll likely lose any drive or motivation to learn.

I'm against letter grades or numerical grading in the first four grades (especially for electives and social studies), but arguing about it is pointless because that's just how the current laws are set up 🙄

But seriously, I have to appeal to parents: spend more time preparing your child for an independent life and learning. Don't just dump everything on preschool, school, or the TV... every year we get worse generations because they've lost the ability to connect what they learn in the classroom to the real world.

I sign off on that completely.

Whether it's going to the corner store to buy bread, knowing what day of the week it is, figuring out how many months until a birthday, crossing the street safely, or simply knowing their address, city, state, and what their parents do for a living...
it's all about fostering an interest in reading and math early on.

Kids coming from quality preschool programs definitely have an edge, and honestly, I feel like starting formal schooling at age 6 is becoming too late for many. Especially since some of our local elementary schools are structured so loosely—sometimes it feels like it's just "memorize this poem at home and we'll sing it in class" 🤦)

feralskipper58 said:I believe parents of first graders have a responsibility to help their kids tackle schoolwork, master the curriculum, and build actual work habits.

The first four years of elementary school are the foundation. That’s when parents need to step up. If they don't, by the time the workload ramps up in middle school, the kid won't have a clue how to work independently.

Otherwise, you just end up with parents in the upper grades doing all the reading assignments and other nonsense because "the poor kid is too overwhelmed." It's a mess.

just building study habits
But honestly, that starts way before first grade—it begins during the preschool years and happens through all sorts of activities, not just schoolwork.

And I have to say, I don't quite see why I would be expected to sit down and do my child's actual school assignments for them.

Plus, this isn't just about parents lacking education. You have plenty of highly educated professionals out there who might be experts in their fields but struggle to explain a concept to a child in a way that actually makes sense to them.

feralgardener33 said:I definitely didn't have grades back in my fourth grade.
Similarly, I find it completely unacceptable that I’m expected to sit down with my child every single night to grind through schoolwork they were supposed to learn in class (maybe explain a concept here or there if they're stuck, sure, but sitting there daily to teach them? No. And yet, I keep hearing that this is becoming the norm, which frankly baffles me).
The reality is, by the time we get home from work and school, it’s already past 5:00 PM. By the time we grab dinner, it’s 6:00 or even later. There are so many other things I actually want to do with my kid—especially on the weekends. If a child is in school until late in the afternoon, I expect them to handle their school business while they're actually there. It’s not that I don’t want to be involved with my child (which seems to be the implication floating around here), quite the opposite: I just want our time together to be spent differently.

🙂
Best,

I would much rather play board games with my kid, practice speaking English, do science experiments (like the ones on the 🙏 website), bake cookies, read comics, explore outdoors, or head to the theater or movies...
I'd much prefer my child to go to the local youth center, or join judo or swimming after school, rather than having me sit there reviewing lessons. I truly believe an average student should be able to grasp what they're learning during class time in the lower grades, not at home.
At home, my child can tell me what they're learning or what they found easy, hard, or interesting, but I'm not going to act as a tutor.

By the way, kids struggle with concentration because they aren't moving enough (physical activity has been cut down to almost nothing), not necessarily because they're overloaded with curriculum. Sure, those two things are linked, but I really think that kids who get their daily dose of movement find it much easier to focus and learn while they're actually in the classroom.