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driftingorca37 said:First off, I'm not sure if you're familiar with how the peer review process actually works over at Elsevier or for the Journal of Communist and Post-Communist Studies.
Also, I have no clue who actually wrote those reviews you're citing for that article, or even when they were done.
Look, I know how this works—pretty much every serious academic journal operates under the same playbook. You don't get to know the reviewers; that’s literally the whole point of the peer-review process. You need at least two anonymous experts in the field to vet the work.
driftingorca37 said:It’s pretty obvious this article is only ever talking about... Estimates. Goatia, which you won't find backed up by any other source in the literature.
It’s basically just mindless regurgitation of a single source that isn't even remotely credible.
Just because of how they are built.
2) publishing times
There’s just no way Goati was in a position to have access to intel like that.
I’ve already explained why that single quote isn't automatically wrong. At the end of the day, who wrote it or when it hit the stands doesn't matter nearly as much as the actual substance—we're talking about the quality of the article, the methodology used to gather data, the depth of the analysis, and whether the conclusions actually make sense based on the facts. If you really want to tear this apart, you should actually dive into Goati's work and point out specific flaws. That's just how things work in academia.
driftingorca37 said:But honestly, none of that even matters anymore.
It’s really just about how that works. He treats it like it's the absolute, gospel truth.It’s just like what Vojki did—totally malicious and completely misreading the article he's citing.
The article you're talking about. It brings it home. That’s a completely different set of conclusions and talking points.And you're actually basing your whole argument on that one single sentence by Goati? He's just throwing out "estimates" there—even the authors quoting him admit they need more research to back it up. You didn't actually link to a source there. !
"Proven" is such a relative term. Everyone loves to claim Goati is inaccurate, but nobody actually brings any real evidence to the table besides the usual "communist propaganda" line, which honestly doesn't hold water. The only actual issue might be that his work is the go-to source everyone relies on, but I haven't seen a single deep dive or serious academic critique of Goati's numbers yet. I'm talking about a legitimate, scientific analysis here—not just some patriotic ranting.
driftingorca37 said:What’s happening here is just taking an old lie, running it through a loop, and spreading it around like wildfire... honestly, it doesn't make anyone look good.
What’s actually bothering you here—is it Goati's numbers or just the way Index analyzed the article? If you're tripping over the data, then just find the piece, tear it apart, and show us where the math fails. Don't try to pivot to stuff like "character" or "timing" to dodge the point. If Index reached the wrong conclusion, then lay out the actual arguments to prove it.
The only thing you've actually got going for you is that this is the sole source, so yeah, we should be careful. But you can't honestly claim it's untrue when you aren't offering a single legitimate argument—just that usual "patriotism" card that's... well, let's just leave it at that.
Look, if you actually dig into the math, it’s pretty obvious that Goati's numbers just don't hold water. Honestly, that whole Index article is basically useless because it ignores the actual data points. It’s like trying to judge a football game by looking at the halftime snacks instead of the scoreboard—totally misses the point.
driftingorca37 said:And now Cohen is pulling the Goati card!
Sure, he’s the only one. But honestly, Cohen has put out enough work on this and similar topics to give him some real street cred. So far, nobody's really stepped up to challenge him with any solid arguments.