Posts by nimblesurfer17

Keith Rodriguez27 said:Look, I reacted (maybe a bit too much) because it felt like you were leaning way too hard on Mark Webber's personality to either justify his actions or shift the blame away from Lewis. I wasn't trying to pin the whole accident on Mark. In my book, we should be talking about the actual physics of the crash first, and then deal with the psychological stuff later.

Honestly, I said it from the jump—that was nothing more than a pure racing incident.
Look, when you're playing a game of "chicken," it really pays to know exactly who you're staring down—because everyone has their own style. Some people blink early, some hold out until the very last second, and then there are those folks who just won't budge at all.😁
I honestly wouldn't have even considered making a move like that—not if we're talking about Webber. If it were Mass, I might have pulled the trigger, and he probably would have gotten away with it too. But with Webber? It’s almost a guarantee you'll pay for it. It really comes down to that whole concept of "racing intelligence" that stormyviper11 was bringing up earlier.

Jason Campbell70 said:He took the ideal racing line.

Unlike Webber, who went off the curb in an attempt to dive back in front after already losing the position.

At the exact moment Lewis Hamilton made his move to turn in—essentially trying to close the door—his car was positioned right there, somewhere between his front wheels and the sidepod air intakes on Hamilton's car. Because of that positioning, you can't really lean on that "fifty-fifty" argument—it just doesn't hold water when you're looking at it from Hamilton's perspective. 🤷 We could always flip the script and argue that Webber was actually the one making the move on Lewis Hamilton—and since he’d already gotten halfway alongside Lewis's car, Lewis really didn't have much choice but to give him the room!
I really think Lewis Hamilton should have just given Mark Webber the space he needed to make the move—after all, he wasn't actually ahead of him at that exact moment. On the flip side, Webber was forced onto the curb because there simply wasn't any more room left on the track. It was one of those split-second calls where things just get incredibly tight!
Like I mentioned before—if Lewis had handled things the way Jenson Button did with him during the Grand Prix of Turkey—that whole mess wouldn't have happened at all. Honestly, I think Lewis Hamilton would have cleared Mark Webber regardless.

Keith Rodriguez27 said:Who’s even talking about what? TBF, we're all just living in a total delusion. ☕

What is wrong with you people? Seriously. Everyone needs to just get out of the way and stop swerving all over the track like Jenson Button when Lewis Hamilton comes charging through. If you can't hold your line, stay off the damn racing surface. It’s simple: if someone is pushing, move. Stop the constant shoving and the amateur hour nonsense. Just clear out.🙄

Look, from where I’m sitting, Lewis Hamilton clearly had the line before he even hit the turn in front of Mark Webber. It wasn't like a massive gap or anything, but it was enough. He owned that space, which means he gets to pick his line. Period.

What the hell is Lewis Hamilton doing in this clip? He’s diving into that corner like a total maniac, just forcing his way in and trying to muscle people out. I mean, what's Mark Webber supposed to do? Just crap himself and slam on the brakes? Or should he just pull off the track entirely? Seriously, what is wrong with you people?😕

Look, Lewis Hamilton might leave me a bit more breathing room, I'll give him that, but there's no way he's hitting the corner like that. No shot.

Since he was ahead at that point, Lewis Hamilton really didn't have any choice in which line to take—he was essentially locked into his path.

placidsurfer9 said:It felt like history repeating itself right after that whole Webber-Hamilton mess... when Kubica was absolutely flying on those fresh tires, leaving everyone in his dust. He ended up caught in that exact same corner, facing the same dilemma Hamilton did. I can't quite recall who he was overtaking at that moment, but the guy just squeezed him out. It was identical—Kubica had half his car alongside him, just like Hamilton had half his car ahead of Webber. Look, I’m not usually one to call for penalties, but I honestly think if anyone else had pulled that move, they would've been penalized for sure.

as I mentioned before, Lewis Hamilton wasn't actually halfway past Webber at the moment he turned in..
and the fact that someone moved for Kubica just means that person made a split-second call that it was better to move—maybe they figured Kubica would clear them in the next corner or lap, or perhaps they simply didn't have the cojones to hold their line, which they had every right to do.🤷 that doesn't mean Webber made a mistake... if a collision had happened there too, I'm certain we'd all just be calling it a "racing incident."

Keith Rodriguez27 said:So, basically, Hamilton is the one to blame because Webber is just inherently "crazy"—especially right now while leading the championship—and keeps running headfirst into walls, so Lewis should've just known and let him by? 😕 First off, I think we're labeling Webber as a "crazy" driver in these on-track duels way too fast. Second, we're acting like it's totally normal (😕) and that everyone else should just adjust their behavior to accommodate that. In my book, that logic works if we're talking about how much damage Lewis took by not letting Webber past, but when we're debating who's actually at fault for the crash? Hell no. Seriously, if we follow that line of thinking, we might as well just label him unpredictable and ban him from racing entirely, otherwise he's eventually going to kill someone on the track. 🤷

No, Hamilton is to blame because he didn't leave enough room in the corner for Webber to make the pass... though, I am curious, did Hamilton say anything after the race was over? 🤷
And yeah, you really have to account for the "mental state" and the sheer personality of the drivers you're battling against... that's honestly one of the most critical factors. It's just not the same experience when you're squaring off against Jenson Button or Felipe Massa versus facing off against Grandpa or Webber. Lewis really should have picked up on those personality traits by now—he would have realized that this move might fly with most of the current Formula 1 grid, but certainly not with Webber, especially not with him in his current position... it's like that old saying, "don't pick a fight with a bull." 😁 The real crux of this whole thing is that Webber isn't "crazy" in the sense that he's pulling stunts like Schumacher against Jacques Villeneuve; rather, he's "crazy" because he refuses to play it safe or back down where other drivers might flinch when faced with the presence of someone like Hamilton, Alonso, or Sebastian Vettel.

crimsonstag84 said:Could a bike make it through? 😕
If you watch the footage, Mark Webber is basically on one wheel on the curb, and he just hits the turn so fast that he nudges Hamilton—you can actually see it on Webber's onboard camera... 🤷

I guess I’m three times more careful when I’m playing on a public server and someone tries to overtake me (where there's no championship and everyone is just racing like a swarm of headless flies) than Webber was. 😛

Hamilton actually hit him, not the other way around... like I mentioned before, he was trying to close the door without realizing exactly who he was trying to shut out ☕. If it had been anyone else, they probably would have backed off and let Lewis Hamilton through (well, maybe not if it were Grandpa 😁!). It’s just baffling to me why Hamilton and the rest of the field don't realize this might be Webber's absolute last shot at a title. He’s going to be fighting much more desperately, harder, and sharper than the guys who still have time to become champions or have already been there 🤷. Where others might ease off the throttle, he won't... it's pure psychology
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Joshua Newman2 said:I honestly don't understand what you're struggling with regarding these descriptions. Mark Webber wasn't at fault when Sebastian Vettel veered into him, yet suddenly he's the one to blame now that Vettel has cut into Lewis Hamilton. The fact that I’m willing to defend a driver in one instance and criticize him in another just shows that I'm prepared—unlike you, perhaps—to look at things with a bit more objectivity.

I have to give Keith Rodriguez27 credit on one point: I actually preferred Vettel until I stumbled upon this forum and ran headfirst into this cult-like worship surrounding him. But if that’s even relevant, it seems like you’ve backed down quite a bit regarding that stance. Lately, I’ve hardly noticed it at all during the races. 😁

In my opinion—and it's the same view held by plenty of people within Formula 1—Webber isn't to blame for this collision at all, let alone for moving into Hamilton... so there's really no reason to attack him for it.
And I'm with you on the Vettel-Webber situation.

wearygull20 said:Does anyone actually root for Mark Webber anymore? 🤷

I can't think of a single soul.... poor Webber, nobody seems to care for him...😢

Between that business with Seb and now this situation with Hemić, I honestly don't think anyone will even bother trying to overtake him on the track for the rest of the season.... 😂

Well, hey, the man clearly has backbone—real guts...☕
And because of that, out of the five top contenders, he’s definitely my pick for the championship race. ☕
I mean, it would be different if Kimi Räikkönen were still in the mix...😁

mistybear87 said:I wouldn't say that's quite right. The blind spot in Formula 1 is actually much larger than people realize—even someone with Lewis Hamilton's experience couldn't have spotted him there. He really could have left a bit more breathing room, but he didn't. At the end of the day, it was just a racing incident, and that's how it's gotta be. 😉

It isn't really about how large the blind spot actually is—that’s why I mentioned this is just pure logic. If you've just overtaken someone and can't see them anymore, that vehicle is definitely sitting somewhere in your blind spot. It’s one of those things you just have to account for!😁 I can't help but wonder—what would actually happen if his rearview mirrors just snapped right off mid-race? 🤣

But hey, we can all agree that it was just a racing incident...👍

Amanda Kelly said:I wouldn't go that far.
At Monza, Lewis Hamilton was actually trying to make the move. Here, Mark Webber was busy blocking him—playing the rear guard, you know?

If Lewis Hamilton made any mistake, it was probably not leaving an extra half-meter of breathing room. He could have likely squeezed through if he'd given it a bit more space on the right.
In that moment, Mark Webber was sitting right in his blind spot. Lewis Hamilton simply didn't see him and thought the overtake was already done. Then, boom—he gets torpedoed.

Of course, you can expect the little piglet to argue that he didn't brake hard enough.
Honestly, the look on Mark Webber's face in that room where the three of them were sitting before the podium tells the whole story. You can practically feel the frustration radiating off him. Sebastian Vettel is ahead of him (again), having caused a mess—which, let's be honest, probably doesn't bother him much.
Meanwhile, Vettel looks like a happy kid, and Fernando Alonso is just doing his own thing again...

Seriously, what kind of driver doesn't realize where the car is that they just overtook? 🤷 😁
That's driving 101—honestly, it's stuff you learn in driver's ed! It's just basic logic: "if you passed someone less than half a second ago and they aren't in your rearview mirror, there's a massive chance they're in your blind spot."🤷
Lewis Hamilton went in looking for a fight and ended up getting burned himself... ☕ talk is cheap, I guess... ☕ If he had just left enough space for Mark Webber (and if you aren't sure what that looks like, just watch the replay of how Jenson Button left him space in the corner), he probably would have made it through. Instead, he just made another silly error.
It's a total racing incident... I actually love seeing that the stewards are finally starting to use their eyes properly.👍

briskhound76 said:Honestly, I usually avoid reading quotes from these posts just a few hours after a race—there’s always so much nonsense being typed that it makes me feel 🙂 just looking at it... but after this specific race, I went back specifically to see how fans of the erratic Sebastian Vettel are trying to turn on their own teammate just to justify that kid's performance today.😂

I thought you guys just couldn't stand Lewis Hamilton, but now it looks like you actually can't stand anyone who finishes ahead of Vettel or Fernando Alonso—which is honestly pretty pathetic.👎

And do I even need to point out that Mark Webber showed a level of backbone that the other drivers unfortunately lack? It's no surprise his popularity climbs with every single race, while those other two are seeing theirs plummet uncontrollably.😉

After watching yesterday's race, when it comes down to the championship fight, I am definitely pulling for Webber...👍
Since Mercedes AMG doesn't have a car capable of winning the title, and neither does Kimi...😁
By the way, regarding Kimi 🙏
Ferrari and Alonso 🤦 why didn't they let Robert Kubica back in? It makes absolutely no sense to me...🤷

Alright then...
Here’s the breakdown:
First off, looking at "my" crew over at Mercedes AMG Petronas and their strategy calls 🤦
Kamui Kobayashi 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Lewis Hamilton 🤮
Sebastian Vettel 🤮
😁

rustyscout31 said:I envy you, 🙄

But what exactly is the point of using "eye rolls"? 🤷
If you aren't prepared for a movie to surprise you, just watch the trailers beforehand—maybe read up a bit on the plot and all that—so that when the film doesn't perfectly match your expectations, it doesn't end up ruining the entire experience for you...

I caught a movie the other day, and I have to say—it was quite good... actually, let me rephrase that—it was pretty damn good.👍
I haven't even glanced at the clock once—time just absolutely flew by!😁

The camera is absolutely top-notch—really impressed with the quality here.🙏
Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett—now those two are truly something else! I was just thinking about their chemistry again—it’s one of those rare things where you just know the screen is going to light up when they share a scene together. There's such a grounded, powerful energy between them that feels so effortless. 👍👍 By the way—and this isn't even about the movie—but I can’t help but notice that Cate Blanchett just seems to get more stunning with every passing year. It's actually quite impressive!😁

I have to say, the comedic beats in this movie were such a pleasant little surprise—honestly, they caught me completely off guard! I wasn't quite expecting much in the way of laughs, but those witty moments really lifted the whole experience. It’s funny how a bit of well-placed humor can totally change your perspective on a film, isn't it?👍

I don't think this one quite earned that "excellent" rating from me—it just had a few hiccups that felt unnecessary. For instance, those scenes with Marianne and the kids right in the middle of the battle felt a bit misplaced, and then there was that shot of Russell Crowe emerging and tearing through the action... plus, following the arrow from a first-person perspective? It just felt like filler to me.
Honestly, I would recommend this movie to just about anyone—no hesitation at all.

I’ve noticed quite a few people chiming in with complaints about how much certain stories stray from actual historical facts... but honestly, I’ve always wondered—since when was Robin Hood considered a real historical figure anyway?🤷
I have this nagging feeling that a lot of people walked into the theater with a very specific set of expectations—almost like they had a script in their heads already. Then, the second the movie veered off that predictable path, they just decided the whole thing was a failure. Honestly? I went in totally blind—I didn't even know what to expect—so nothing could catch me off guard. I just leaned into the story, let it take me along for the ride, and ended up having a great time.☕

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Joshua Newman2 said:In the end, I have to say—the race turned out to be even more captivating than I had originally anticipated!

The biggest winner today has to be Fernando Alonso—he didn't even ask for it, but he managed to jump up two spots and walk away with a massive haul of points right in front of his home crowd!

If you ask me, the real masterclass in pure driving skill during that race came from Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber—they both just showed everyone how it's done.

Michael Schumacher really showed off those legendary defensive skills while holding off Jenson Button—it was a masterclass—but seeing Nico Rosberg struggle to make any headway on those fresh medium tires with that underperforming Williams Racing car just goes to show how incredibly difficult it actually is to overtake on this track.

I suspect both Nico Rosberg and Felipe Massa are probably hoping we all just move on and forget this race ever happened.
If they actually end up putting Massu in a Renault seat next year, I honestly don't know how I'm going to handle it...

When it comes to Renault, it’s a bit of a bummer—Robert Kubica ended up having a much rougher race than he did when he first crossed the starting line.

It might seem like an uphill battle to overtake, but it’s definitely doable—just look at how Nico Rosberg proved it can be done.
Grandpa really showed everyone how it’s done—he defended that position like a total pro from lap 16 all the way to the checkered flag.🙏🙏
If he manages to nail his qualifying lap at Monaco—and I mean really nail it—he might just find himself standing on that podium.

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Thomas Morales13 said:Jenson Button recently shared some thoughts regarding Michael Schumacher—specifically about the way he handled overtaking him during their time on the track. It’s one of those classic racing debates, isn't it? Looking back at how aggressive the moves were, Button seemed to suggest there was a certain edge to the way Schumacher went for the lead. I remember watching some of those old races on TV when I was younger—always fascinated by that tension between pure speed and that "win at all costs" mentality. It makes you wonder where we draw the line between legendary skill and just being relentless. Definitely a conversation worth having!



Man, what a struggle trying to keep up with Button—it was intense. Honestly, if my old mechanic had been sitting in Button's seat instead, I’m pretty sure he could have handled that machine with ease using nothing but a Hemi!

🤦🤦🤦
He's honestly making a fool of himself here... that move was absolutely textbook—clear as day! Grandpa gave him plenty of room to work with, too.
The fact that he couldn't manage to overtake Grandpa even if he had an extra 50 laps really speaks volumes about his—or lack thereof—ability. It’s just one of those things that tells you everything you need to know.☕ He didn't really try to make a move anywhere else—it was always just that first corner...🤷 Honestly, after about five laps in, I think he probably realized that his chances were pretty much shot—it was becoming clear he wasn't going to pull it off there.🙄
Well, there's no denying it—the champion takes it all.🙂🙂

bluehawk3 said:You checked the facts, sure—but you weren't really paying attention to the nuances... and that’s exactly why things went quiet.

I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch your drift—what exactly were you trying to get at with that post? 🙄
I could easily report this just to be a troll—but I think I’ll pass.☕
And moving forward—if you ever decide to quote one of my posts again—do try to come up with something actually worth responding to...
That's exactly what you deserve. 🤦🤦🤦

rustystag7 said:the guy is looking for actual evidence rather than just some silly crashes like that incident with Vettel...

Kubica isn't a bad driver, but honestly, it's all just talk without any real proof...

There's something behind Mass that nobody can deny, whether they like him or not...

Mass completely outclassed Kimi during his time at Ferrari...
He nearly took the championship—just missed it by a single point, which doesn't matter—but he proved he could be a worthy opponent to anyone...

So, you're saying Mass outclassed Kimi at Ferrari? That's interesting...☕
Last time I checked the stats, Kimi was the one bringing the title back to Ferrari...🤷

rustystag7 said:Wait, what else is there to do to prove Mass beat Kimi???
I mean, what more do you need besides consistently staying ahead of Kimi???

Because right now, nothing I say seems to be enough...

Since if you look at anything, Mass was better than Kimi during those two or three seasons—whether you look at the total picture, the number of wins... or the points....🤷

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I'd bet anything that Mass wouldn't have been able to win at Spa with that junk car he was driving... that's where you see how truly good a driver Kimi is...🙏🙏
I don't know, the experts (not the forum types, I mean the real ones...😁) always placed Kimi in a higher class when it came to pure pace—his motivation might have been a bit off...😁 but, the raw speed was definitely on his side...
But then again, how was Mass better overall if Kimi won the championship? 🤷 The number of wins was equal, and Mass edged him out by a few points... though you really have to factor in the team dynamics at Ferrari over those last two seasons...

Morgan Murphy7 said:Get real,
Kimi didn't exactly spend much time racing alongside little Mass.
🤷

It’s honestly pretty incredible—this guy managed to clinch the championship in his very first season driving alongside Mass, who had been a fixture there forever. Even though he ended up just behind Mass in the standings the following year, let's be real—Kimi certainly wasn't just cruising along in his shadow...🙏

Arthur Doyle70 said:So, in other words, that edge showed up more with the faster Mercedes driver—which at this moment would be Nico Rosberg...
Well, if he could have shaken him off sooner, he totally could have—but honestly, Grandpa was holding his own in those defensive lines; he always seems to have one more little trick up his sleeve when things get tight...😉

There we go, we're finally on the same page...😉
That’s exactly what I was getting at...

Arthur Doyle70 said:Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion—just let me know what you think! 😉

I brought up Nico Rosberg because he’s driving for the same team as his teammate, and the reality is he's been more competitive than him since the start of the season—he even grabbed a podium today, right behind that McLaren duo... so, that whole "the car is just way superior" argument doesn't really hold water. If you want to disagree, try a different angle. Besides, McLaren and Mercedes both have less downforce compared to Red Bull or Scuderia Ferrari, even if McLaren feels like the fastest right now—which, honestly, isn't quite the full story. It would be a different conversation if someone were driving a Lotus while someone else was in a Red Bull; then we'd be talking about a massive performance gap... there you go.

Personally, I'm thrilled with where Rosberg is sitting right now, especially since I've been rooting for him this season...
I'm not sure if you caught that article I shared earlier regarding which driver the Mercedes car suits better. That isn't meant to be an excuse for Michael Schumacher; it's simply a fact.
And look, Rosberg is doing great—he's fighting for podiums—while Schumi is out there struggling for 7th, 8th, or 9th place...
In this specific scenario, the real metric is how much faster Lewis Hamilton's car was compared to Schumacher's... and I think anyone watching the race could see that clearly. It looked like Schumi was standing still—man, Lewis Hamilton really should have cleared him sooner.
And since you brought up Rosberg, Lewis Hamilton was actually much faster than him on the straights; I was just rewatching the footage, so yeah...
Today, Lewis Hamilton's car had the edge over the Mercedes chassis: that advantage was even more pronounced on Schumacher's car than it was on Rosberg's, but that's just the reality of it.

Arthur Doyle70 said:I honestly don't even know how to respond to that post....😬

It’s just a complete mess...☕

What I was actually getting at was the braking into the corner and how he overtook on the opposite side from his entry—since Grandpa defended the left side, Lewis Hamilton braked hard and timed it perfectly to exploit the gap on the right, and that was that. Plus, all this talk about performance and having an incredibly dominant car just doesn't hold up, especially considering Rosberg's third-place finish...
And then, when someone immediately jumps in to attack Hamilton without any real argument—even though I specifically pointed out the 0:15 mark, meaning I was referring strictly to that one move—well, it gets me a little frustrated. 🤣

That was a move a whole bunch of drivers would have made today... if you're looking for spectacular, it wasn't really it... ☕
If you brought up some of Lewis Hamilton's other moves, sure, okay... but this was just a standard, textbook maneuver.
But seriously, did you really not notice how much faster Hamilton's car was on the straights?
And what does Rosberg's car have to do with this? 🤷 Rosberg is driving his car, and Schumi is driving his... ☕

And yeah, I still think it's a shame that Hamilton spent so much time stuck behind Grandpa in such a superior car—and it's entirely possible that cost him the win. Pay attention to the word "possible"... I assume you know what that implies...
So, feel free to stay annoyed if you like... ☕

Arthur Doyle70 said:Maybe at that exact moment, Hamilton just lost his nerve—or maybe he got a sudden toothache from the radiation coming off his grandpa's car. Or perhaps he caught a cramp in his leg because he was constantly jamming the fuel flow valve? It’s possible Nicole called him over the radio right then, or maybe he just fell asleep from sheer boredom and ended up tailgating his grandpa. Who knows? Maybe he was stuck in second gear because he's struggling with the controls, or perhaps the ghost of Rubens decided to haunt him. He could have been stalking his prey like a cheetah before pouncing, or maybe he lit a cigarette and waited for a chance to overtake once he finished his smoke... It’s even possible that McLaren called the FIA at that very moment to ask if Michael is even allowed to overtake and if there's a penalty for doing so. Perhaps this move was his way of announcing who the new king of Formula 1 is, or maybe Mercedes throttled back his engine RPM just so he wouldn't embarrass his grandpa. Heck, maybe he just had a sudden physical distraction that jammed the air intake and slowed the car down...

So, anything is possible....😬

But from what I saw, it looks more like a brilliantly calculated move by Hamilton..
And isn't it funny how McLaren and Mercedes seem to be neck-and-neck in performance, but the second they pass the Mercedes car, suddenly McLaren is the fastest thing in the universe? Apparently, they've got warp drive, the drivers have no bones, and the car actually levitates above the track so they don't even wear out their tires... you get the idea...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, I really don't have the energy to engage with posts like this..
Just this:
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

Arthur Doyle70 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiMWw19t91E

0:15 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

It’s entirely possible that Schumi actually cost Lewis the win today—considering he kept him tucked right behind him for about two and a half laps. At that stage, Hamilton was pulling about 2.3 seconds faster per lap... so, honestly, I don't see anything particularly spectacular about how Lewis made his move. ☕
In fact, the fact that someone could be stuck behind "the legend" for that long while driving such a vastly superior car is actually a bit concerning, if you ask me.. 😁

hollowgull5 said:I'm really curious if Rosberg is going to stick with his current car, or if Schumi is getting the new one—or maybe even Rosberg will have to switch over to the new model too...🤷

My guess? They’ll likely give Rosberg a chance to test out the new car, which would let him decide which one actually suits his driving style better..🤷
Though, honestly, I doubt they'd force him into the new one if it ends up being slower than what he's running right now..🤷