2012 Japanese GP (Suzuka) - Oct 7th
in Formula 1 ·
Honestly, I have to say—there are quite a few lovely ladies on my team...😬
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Jason Campbell70 said:Kimi Kimi Raikkonen looking out for his buddy—again.
Someone really needs to kick Romain Grosjean out of NASCAR. 🤮
Adam Chase41 said:I don't see how Kimi is at fault here.😕
Jason Campbell70 said:Kimi Kimi Raikkonen has a broken front wing, and Fernando Alonso has a punctured rear tire.
Pretty logical, right?
Jason Campbell70 said:We moved past that ages ago. He took a gamble, it didn't pay off, and we've all made our peace with it.
But the real kicker is that he didn't lose out because of his own driving error—he lost out because of someone else's mistake.
And let's be honest... if the roles were reversed, or if we saw Alonso and Vettel in swapped positions, I'm sure TBF would be absolutely tearing into Ford International Assistance, throwing shade at everyone involved, and making a huge scene about it.
stormybadger8 said:At the end of the day, that’s just how all F1 drivers operate—it's part of the game.
Do you honestly think Alonso would be losing sleep over anyone else in that situation? Or any other driver for that matter? :rofl
It’s just that they won’t openly say, "I couldn't care less about the others." Instead, they’ll spin some PR-friendly nonsense along the lines of, "Oh, I feel terrible about it." 😉
They aren't saints—they aren't going to sit around feeling bad for their competitors or actually caring about them...
They might offer an apology to smooth things over, sure, but don't mistake that for genuine empathy.
It's one thing when a driver crashes into someone and ruins their race, but ultimately, none of these guys can blame anyone but themselves for not setting a faster lap earlier. :coffee
The weather could have turned or rain could have come out too—after all, it did pour right after qualifying.
And should Kimi have felt guilty about the rain coming down or the fact that he set his time before everyone else? Not really.
stormybadger8 said:All five points are absolutely valid—honestly, you can see it right there in the footage where Felipe Massa glances over at him a few times before moving in, clearly knowing a collision was coming.
In my opinion, that’s actually the core reason behind the penalty.
The only real "what if" is this: if he truly intended to cause that wreck, he executed it terribly. I mean, if the goal was to take someone out, he should have made sure Lewis Hamilton ended up off the track or just took them both out entirely—instead, he just ended up losing his own race.
Think about it in a 🙂Button style
way. That was a pretty fitting response to some of Hamilton's questionable moves earlier.
stormybadger8 said:Kamui 👋
has a massive shot at this race😍😍 😍
and he's looking at the win 👋
He’s the only one starting on hard tires, plus he still has one fresh soft left over😁
cosmichawk12 said:Well, obviously the cars aren't the same
Of course the mechanics are putting more effort into Vettel's car, working on it more, and he’s getting the better parts—(just look back at Silverstone last year, when they swapped the front wing from Webber's car onto Vettel's without him even knowing, leaving Webber with the older, inferior one)
Which is understandable, really... after all, Vettel is their lead driver, a two-time World Champion, his face is plastered on all the Red Bull promotional shots and advertisements, his name is on the merchandise... it's all quite predictable...
Chris Ortiz said:That is a brilliant idea. We would just have to award points to everyone, because otherwise, there would be no point in finishing 11th, since everyone from 11th down to 25th would be fighting tooth and nail to finish last instead.
mistybear87 said:What if we just messed up qualifying entirely and had two races instead? In the first race, everyone starts based on the championship standings, and in the second, you start in reverse order based on how the first one finished.
You’d essentially have the same dynamic, just without all the headache of complicated qualifying strategies, wouldn't you?😉
stormybadger8 said:Look, I agree he needs to chill and the previous penalties were way too light.😳
Personally, I think he deserved a black flag in Monaco, but this incident with Massu doesn't really fall into that category for me.🤷
I don't see any malice or anything else here; it just looks like a bad call by Lewis Hamilton. It’s just a typical racing incident.
It’s no different from the Sergio Perez vs Michael Schumacher duel (though honestly, Damon Hill should have been penalized there, even if neither deserved it) or Sergio Perez vs Nico Rosberg.
Amanda Kelly, calm down with the fanboy rage and look at the facts. What you wrote above isn't even okay, and I wouldn't expect that kind of stuff from you.😢
stormybadger8 said:Alright fine, let's just say we weren't on the same page and leave it at that.🙂
Hmm, why? Personally, I think Kamui Kobayashi could be really, really good here. Plus, this track should suit Sauber perfectly, right?🤷
stormybadger8 said:It wasn't the primary reason, whoever told you that 🤦, but damn it, it's not insignificant like some people claim either.☕
This season, he's the one responsible for the results—way more than last year. I don't care what anyone says, he's only got two other podiums this season, and just five third-place finishes in a dominant car where Vettel has 8 wins and 12 total podiums.
If last year's title contender only grabbed 7 podiums in total, the car is the only reason Vettel won the championship. Think whatever you want, 🙄
stormybadger8 said:2006: Adrian Newey joins Red Bull Racing - 16 points in the season (7 total)
2007 Red Bull Racing - 24 points (5 total)
2008 Red Bull Racing - 29 points (7 total)
2008 Sebastian Vettel in Red Bull Racing - 35 points☕
2009 Red Bull Racing - 153.5 points (2 total)
2009 Sebastian Vettel in Red Bull Racing - 84 points (2 total)
We know the rest; it wasn't even that long ago.🙂
Besides, Ferrari dominated for years, so now it's their turn to sit back for at least a decade. If someone else is going to take the crown from them, I'd much rather it be Williams Racing or McLaren.🙂
stormybadger8 said:They've got the best driver. ☕
He had that same engineer over at McLaren too, so what exactly did they manage to build with him?
darkmarlin16 said:Way to go, Jenson! 🙏
I can't shake the feeling that Fernando really should have been fighting Jenson for the win today—unfortunately, he made just a few too many mistakes. All things considered, though, taking 3rd place is still a fantastic result.
It’s like the McLaren strategists🤣 were borrowed straight from Ferrari🤣!
Buemi + 15🙏
analoggull4 said:Is anyone else having trouble with the forum today?